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Death Valley heat melts skin off a man's feet after he lost his flip-flops in the dunes

According to a National Park Service news release, the 42-year-old Belgian tourist was taking a short walk Saturday in the Mesquite Flat Sand Dunes in 123-degree heat when he either broke or lost his flip-flops, putting his feet into direct contact with the desert ground. The result: third-degree burns.

“The skin was melted off his foot,” said Death Valley National Park Service Ranger Gia Ponce. “The ground can be much hotter — 170, 180 [degrees]. Sometimes up into the 200 range.”

Unable to get out on his own and in extreme pain, the man and his family recruited other park visitors to help; together, the group carried him to the sand dunes parking lot, where park rangers assessed his injuries.

Though they wanted a helicopter to fly him out, helicopters can’t generate enough lift to fly in the heat-thinned air over the hottest parts of Death Valley, officials said. So park rangers summoned an ambulance that took him to higher ground, where it was a cooler 109 degrees and he could then be flown out.

Treczoks ,

Who the f enters Death Valley on flipflops?

UnrepententProcrastinator ,

Tourists

Duamerthrax ,

I wonder how much CO2 was released getting the Belgian tourist to Death Valley.

Amanduh ,

If i was ever going to hike in death valley I’d probably want to go on like a guided group hike, I’d have plenty of sunscreen, snacks and a camelbak filled with ice water.

Dorkyd68 ,

And hopefully wise enough to not wear flippin flip flops

Amanduh ,

Wym flip flops are the hikers ideal choice

MammyWhammy ,

And not go in the summer time.

Aceticon ,

Hah! Total failure!

The guy is still alive. Nice try Death Valley!

SkyezOpen ,

More like ouchie feet valley.

Aceticon ,

“Slightly Risky Valley” just doesn’t have the same bite.

echodot ,

Might seem like a stupid question but that’s Fahrenheit right not Celsius? I like how in the article they unnecessarily clarify that he’s talking about temperature in degrees, (a concussed duckling would be able to work that one out) but not the unit of temperature.

weeeeum ,

Correct

120f = 48c

200f = 93c

ben_dover ,

was he German? they love going hiking in sandals, and then need to get rescued from mountains.

why does anyone go into the desert with flip flops?

ours ,

Sandals and flip flops are very different things for walking.

There are awesome hiking sandals that provide excellent support, grip, and all. But flip flops? Oof.

I’ve had the misadventure of having to do a small jungle trek with flip flops (my super duper fancy hiking shoes were soaking wet). I managed but it wasn’t ideal. The Australian rainforest is not exactly flip flop friendly.

shaman1093 ,

I’m one of those special kinds of idiot where I pride myself on my ability to traverse any terrain in my thongs (flip flops).

ours ,

The kinds of things they do and the places they go in thongs in South-East Asia. It’s humbling.

echodot ,

Humans seem to have a special mental gap when it comes to mountains. It’s warm and sunny so they go up in flip-flops and tiny short shorts, but on the actual mountain it’s freezing cold and often raining and they require rescuing because at some point they either fall over due to trying to wander around in what are essentially plastic slippers, or they’re too cold and they can’t carry on.

We know that the temperature drops as you go up and yet somehow that seems to fail to register for people.

batmaniam ,

As an American scout, it’s also been funny talking to my friends years after the kind of things you take for granted. I had a friend that took a bunch of people up a moderate hike, but they wound up in what could have very easily turned into a not moderate fuck up. I’ve never really considered myself a “survivalist”, but I was seriously in error in assuming people knew the basics.

ScreamingFirehawk ,

Belgian, so I’m surprised they were sensible enough to wear any kind of footwear

TheBat ,
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Belgian

Swamp German

then_three_more ,

Burn.

FlyingSquid ,
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In the 80s, and I was 7, we went to Italy and my parents and I went up Mount Etna and I was wearing flip-flops, making it pretty much impossible to walk up a bunch of lava rocks without them slipping off and cutting my feet. My parents only thought I was complaining about the walk until my mother looked down and saw my feet bleeding.

I haven’t been a big fan of them since.

Username ,

Don’t you think it’s time to forgive your parents?

FlyingSquid ,
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Never.

barsquid ,

Sand = beach

deltapi ,

No, the Belgian man was not German.

Blumpkinhead ,

Are you sure?

MeekerThanBeaker ,

But he may have spoke German. I’ll allow it.

NauticalNoodle ,

If there are no relevant foot pictures in the article then it didn’t happen.

BeMoreCareful ,

I think you’re some kind of deviated prevert.

iAvicenna ,
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I feel like better temporary solutions could be found (than flaying your own skin on hot sand) like ripping your shirt off and tying it to your feet?

awesome_lowlander ,

The burns probably happened in seconds.

iAvicenna ,
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So that is roughly 80-90 C, makes wonder if you can in a couple seconds burn your feet to a level where its skin falls off?

awesome_lowlander ,

Scenario: You’re barefoot on a hot 90C surface that extends as far as the eye can see. Pain, panic, confusion sets in. How long before you gain the clarity of mind to dump your backpack, yank off your shirt and wrap your feet? With no assistance, because nobody else has any idea why you’re screaming in pain.

Yes, your skin could absolutely fall off in that time.

iAvicenna ,
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It is not like someone magically transported the sandals out of your feet. It should have been a more continuous process in which you were already probably long made aware how fucking scorching hot the sand is.

Cosmicomical ,

That’s the kind of shit i expect to happen in a place called death valley. I will only go if escorted by hokuto no ken

echodot ,

I went to Death Valley once on a tour and the minibus fell off the road. We had to open the door so that we could get some leverage so we could push it out of the small hole that it had fallen in and in the time that we had the door open the plastics on the door completely melted. We were all very hungover as well so it wasn’t really a very good experience.

AlecSadler ,

Don’t they do helicopter tours there? How does that work … and if/when it does, it seems like it’d be a dying industry…

echodot ,

Not in Death Valley as far as I’m aware, they do in the local area but not actually in Death Valley itself. I must admit though I’m a bit unclear about how far the really hot bit of Death Valley extends.

NatakuNox ,
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Who wears flip flops to the desert?!

pyre ,

“sand? so it’s just like the beach!”

Hugh_Jeggs ,

Have you ever even met a Belgian?!?

There’s a good reason their car numberplates are red, it’s so you can avoid the daft cunts 😂

Theoriginalthon ,

Red number plates? Didn’t notice that, however they seem incapable of navigating roundabouts

Hugh_Jeggs ,

Level of observation achieved - BELGIAN

some_guy ,

Terrible fates that I’d never considered for $100.

Hellnikko ,

The best part is no matter what health insurance he has (or doesn’t have), that’s gonna be expensive as fuck by the end of the year.

skuzz ,

Belgian. So probably no freedumb buck based medical system.

PixTupy ,

They don’t, you’re advised to buy the most expensive travel insurance you can find when going to USA or Canada.

Halcyon ,
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International travel health insurance is not that expensive in Europe. In Germany you can get it for the equivalent of around $15-20 a year. Then you are fully insured for a travel period of 8 weeks per year. Insurances like that also exist in Belgium.

PixTupy ,

True, I worked with travel insurance for a while in Euorpe. It’s still advised to get better coverage ones when going to North America, even several travel insurances, as the top amount in the cheapest ones will not be enough to even open an American hospital door.

frickineh ,

I feel like if you go to Death Valley, in July, when we’re having record-breaking temps all over the world, and you wear flip flops…look, I’m not saying anyone deserves to lose a foot just because they’re making stupid choices, but maybe like, a toe. Because man, that is wildly stupid.

ConstipatedWatson ,

While I fully agree with you, for a second there I wondered what could have been proper clothing and footwear for this type of trip. I normally wear Chaco sandals in the Summer and they seem to be sturdier and more appropriate footwear for this walk and then I thought they could melt too, so… Hiking boots? Those would possibly not melt, so maybe they would have been appropriate, but I’m not sure…

A strange game, the only winning move is not to play… You don’t go to Death Valley in the boiling hot summer (I myself have been in June of many years ago and it was a chillier day)

FuglyDuck , (edited )
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It’s Death Valley.

You want at least mid-rise hiking boots. Trail hiking shoes might be okay, except in the case you step on a rattler.

The boots aren’t full proof protection but they’re much better than a sock.

The biggest reason to go down to shoes is if you plan to be moving over boulders- it’s pretty hard to edge.

Biggest things are that they’re comfortable, sized right and sturdy enough to not fall apart. (Also? Bring lots of socks. Swapping socks frequently will help with the perspiration)

(ETA) For general clothing avoid dark or bright colors- light tan is best, wear light breathable pants and similar shirt. Id recommend avoiding cotton (it sucks for wicking,) and go with linen. I recommend long sleeves but a lot of that has to do with me having 3 shades- white, pink and burnt.

Hat and sunglasses that are comfortable.

Also? The biggest rule? Tell someone where you are going, what your route is, and when you expect to get out. I recommend checking in and out with the parks service cuz they’re gonna be the ones looking for you.

Etterra ,

Do rattlers even live in death valley? I’m not sure that they do.

FuglyDuck ,
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the Mojave Rattler, Mojave Sidwinder Rattler, and Panamint Rattler all can be found there.

There’s other venomous snakes, too, on that list. It’s not a place you want to go about in sandals. not. at. all. There’s also plenty of nasty spiders and scorpions, too. (to be fair, there’s basically scorpions everywhere. except like. the artic)

Suru ,

Huh. There being scorpions everywhere except the Arctic is such a wild statement to your average European. Never have I ever seen a scorpion outside a terrarium despite having traveled and hiked extensively in various countries around the continent.

Are they truly that common in the Americas, even in more temperate climates?

FuglyDuck ,
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They’re that common basically everywhere, actually.

The UK has yellow tailed scorpions from southern Europe; and with climate change spreading a lot. Northern Europe is still close enough to the artic to give them difficulties; but there’s other species that are smaller that are just hard to find.

There’s also tons of pseudoscorpids that lack the tail (and are tiny,)

Suru , (edited )

Ah. Well, perhaps I ought to amend it to an average Northern European, then. There are definitely no true scorpions in the Nordics, although we probably have some tiny pseudoscorpids around somewhere. Although I’ve hiked all over Southern Spain and never spotted a scorpion there either.
…which probably says more about my perceptiveness or lack-there-of than anything else.

/edited for spelling

FuglyDuck ,
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They’re pretty hard to see. Researchers go out at night with UV lights to make them glow in the dark. Otherwise they’re very sneaky.

They’re pretty much restricted to temperate though so nordics are definitely too cold.

But they’ll be coming for you soon, /sadlol

beansbeansbeans ,

Interesting anecdote. I’m a European-American; members of my family and I have all seen scorpions in Spain, Italy, and especially Greece - all you need to do is stroll through a village at night. As for the US, I’ve never seen one outside a terrarium.

raef ,

"some folks will never lose a toe; then again some folks’ll. Like Cletus the slackjawed yokel. "

Jayb151 ,

Aye! What’s goin’ on on this side!?

Etterra ,

I’ll say it. This dumbass deserves to lose his feet. Hell, he earned it.

EarthShipTechIntern ,

Literally burned it

weeeeum ,

Yeah, this is akin to wearing a bikini to Antarctica.

Grass ,

why do people keep going here. does nobody watch the local news there or is it all biden gone here’s herris, trunp maga pooble dooble and nothing actually local?

catloaf ,

The average person has become accustomed to no threats to their life. You know how they tell you not to feed wild animals, because they become accustomed to it and can’t fend for themselves? It’s like that.

newtraditionalists ,

A more cynical way I've seen this put: we've made it too easy for stupid people to survive.

FuglyDuck ,
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Technically, the reason they tell you not to feed wild animals is because they’re likely to maul you when you run out of food.

TropicalDingdong ,

Death Valley

To be fair, it is right there in the name.

FuglyDuck ,
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“I thought that was like, ironic, bruh.”

Etterra ,

“Irony didn’t get you into this mess, son.”

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