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solsangraal , in McDonald's to 'rethink' prices after first sales fall since 2020

nobody ever went to mcdonald’s because it’s “good” but because it was cheap and fast

now it’s none of those 3 things. no reason to go there at all. that applies to most other fast food shit too.

Atrichum ,

When big mac is made right, and the ingredients haven’t been sitting around all day, it’s pretty dang good. Even their basic hamburgers.

DrSteveBrule ,

Trusting that the underpaid and overworked employee is going to deliver a “pretty good” burger from a fast food joint isn’t a gamble many people are willing to make anymore. And I don’t blame those employees at all.

solsangraal ,

made right

haven’t been sitting around all day

LOL

Snowpix ,
@Snowpix@lemmy.ca avatar

So, basically, it’s never good.

Artyom ,

Have you ever had a cheeseburger at a real restaurant in your life? This is a serious question.

Mr_Dr_Oink ,

Depends where you are from. Food standards are higher in Europe, McDonalds can’t use cardboard for their burgers. Has to be actual beef.

McDonalds isn’t as hated in the UK or Europe as it is in America.

sushibowl ,

I’m from Europe, and this doesn’t match my experience. McDonald’s is bottom tier fast food. Probably KFC is worse, but that’s about it.

In general, to me it always seemed like Americans value fast food and chain restaurants way higher than Europeans.

Mr_Dr_Oink ,

I think there’s some wiggle room on “bottom tier,” but yeah, it’s down there somewhere. I dont think KFC is worse, not in my experience. but regardless of this, the meat is real in the UK (at least) and across Europe (at most).

Your individual tastes are subjective. I was arguing that the quality difference of a mcdonalds burger and a restaurant burger is not as big a chasm as OP made out. I’ve worked in plenty of restaurants, and many buy their burgers from the same suppliers that fast food places buy from. It’s the same meat in a different setting. In fact, I used to order food for a whitbread chain restaurant and a greene king chain restaurant, and a lot of it came from the same manufacturers. But people would swear by the quality of the more upmarket whitbread restaurant over the cheaper greene king one.

sushibowl ,

Your individual tastes are subjective. I was arguing that the quality difference of a mcdonalds burger and a restaurant burger is not as big a chasm as OP made out.

I agree that they are basically the same meat from the same cows, but in my opinion there is still a big quality difference due mainly to preparation. A McDonald’s beef patty is too thin, too homogeneous, and overcooked. The lack of flavour is the result of optimizing for cooking speed.

If you are willing to wait 5-15 minutes for your burger to be cooked you can achieve dramatically better results from the same cow.

SRo ,

Doesn’t help that the meat is real when the patty is 2mm thick. McD is so shit it’s ridiculous.

Honytawk ,

If every business has to keep to certain food standards, then McDonalds will still be bottom tier as they are in every other region. But the quality is still higher because every other business is too.

echodot ,

Mcdonald’s food in Europe is at least edible though. It’s not necessarily high quality but it’s not as bad as American to seem to make out.

Not that I really eat there very often because to be honest there are better places, but the existence of better places does not necessarily mean they’re terrible. Just not as good as the better places.

They may very well be bottom tier but the whole ladder is higher up in Europe.

Emmie ,

Here it is kinda considered shit food and just became pricy too

AA5B ,

Where I’m from in NorthEast US

  • Taco Bell is absolute bottom, is not food
  • KFC is mostly chicken skin and fat
  • McDonalds is bottom tier that’s actual food

I don’t go to any of them willingly.

Minimum acceptable fast food

  • Chipotle
  • Five Guys
  • Panera

Then again, on road trips, I generally stick with whatever swill paid to be in rest areas, so I don’t have to get off the highway

tiefling ,

McDonalds also directly supports the IDF

Dead_or_Alive ,

Sounds like I need to buy a Big Mac.

roboto ,

I recommend eating McDonald’s every day to support your beloved genocidal friends. The more you eat McDonald’s, the better for the IOF. They really need your support in eating as much McDonald’s as you can!

Fidel_Cashflow ,
@Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml avatar

I agree, you should eat so many your heart explodes. make the world a better place.

thermal_shock ,

it was a franchise choice for that community. not to defend mcdonalds, but this happens, just not usually by genocidal groups.

“In regard to the news that McDonald’s in Israel was donating meals. We affirm that it was an individual decision on their part,” McDonald’s franchise in Saudi Arabia said in a statement. “Neither global McDonald’s nor us nor any other country had a role or relationship with that decision, neither directly nor indirectly.”

McDonald’s is a global chain but its franchises are often owned locally and operate autonomously.

McDonald’s Corp declined to comment but a source close to the company in the U.S. said the Israel franchise was an independent business that licensed McDonald’s brand. The source said it’s not unusual for franchisees to engage with their local communities when they are in need.

Kalysta ,

Honestly? I don’t care if it was just a local franchise. Corporate HQ can force local franchises to stop this if they want to stay open.

Plus, the food is shit. There are better places to eat.

thermal_shock ,

fair enough

disguy_ovahea ,

It also relies on forced prison labor.

apnews.com/…/prison-to-plate-inmate-labor-investi…

rekorse ,

Only reason to go there now is because they’ve tricked my kids into being addicted to it.

solsangraal ,

glad they’re raising you right

rekorse ,

You know it, savages.

MonkderVierte ,

Only thing i noticed it’s bland. Saving on salt?

PlantJam , in Media Bias Fact Check - Automation

After seeing the comment on a few posts, the length is really bothering me. I don’t want to block the bot since it’s useful information. What about a single line of text with a link to “read more”?

Example with explanations:

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PlantJam ,

Another idea. What about not posting the comment when the rating is “high credibility”?

irotsoma ,
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Because then you don’t know if the bot is not working or is behind or if the post is actually credible. Better to have it on everything, though it definitely could put less info on high credibility posts if it can’t be condensed across the board.

PlantJam ,

That’s a great point that I hadn’t considered. Posting on every post also keeps it neutral instead of seeming to only target certain sources.

rhythmisaprancer ,
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the length is really bothering me

I think this is my main challenge. It seems a little intrusive. Maybe I just read a bit from The Guardian and don't need to see the full monty again.

xc2215x , in McDonald's to 'rethink' prices after first sales fall since 2020

Finally. Better late than never I guess.

nifty , in Elon Musk accused of spreading lies over doctored Kamala Harris video
@nifty@lemmy.world avatar

The video is possibly illegal in several states citizen.org/…/tracker-legislation-on-deepfakes-in…

Edit maybe there should be more election deepfakes so that we’ll finally have legislation outlawing this behavior

SnotFlickerman , in Kamala Harris accused of "war crimes" as protests planned for DNC
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

democracy is the worst form of government – except for all the others that have been tried.

We, all of us, as American citizens, are just as culpable for the terrible things our government does in our name.

We can try to hand-wave it away and be like “I don’t support that” but our purchases and our taxes do, whether we like it or not.

I am by no means a fan of Kamala Harris, former shitty cop, but dear fucking god it’s not like I’m being given loads of other options here.

So, while it’s good to hold their feet to the fire, it’s also… a little silly and hypocritical. Especially, as others have pointed out, since VP is mostly a do-nothing job.

Gork , in McDonald's to 'rethink' prices after first sales fall since 2020

Last month, the head of its US operations formally responded to the complaints with an open letter to customers, saying social media was painting an inaccurate picture. He said the average price of a Big Mac in the US, which is now $5.29 (£4.11), was up 21% since 2019 - roughly in line with the pace of inflation - and many items had risen by less.

Sure, place the blame on anyone but themselves.

$5.29 is ridiculous for a Big Mac, which is super tiny.

megopie ,

Especially because that’s just the sandwich, not a side and a drink. A combo meal is like 10.15$

I’m sorry but the quality of the food does not justify 10 dollars.

For comparison, I remember in Berlin not even 5 years ago I got a currywurst with fries and a drink for 3.60 € (about 3.90$), and in London I got an absolute mound of fish and chips with peas for like 6.50 £ (about 8$). Both of these I got as much or way more food than a Big Mac combo and they were much better quality.

GreatAlbatross ,
@GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk avatar

I won’t defend McDonald’s, but you’ll struggle to get fish for under £7-8 now, and the chips are £2-3.

In the south, at least.

NaibofTabr ,

roughly in line with the pace of inflation

Roughly in line with the terrible inflation of the past 5 years which has been primarily driven by corporate price gouging.

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/B7N52B/who-stole-the-peoples-money-twas-him-cartoon-about-tammany-hall-scandal-B7N52B.jpg

TastyWheat ,

I think you hit the nail on the head there. Even if they were to lower the prices, they’ll just make the fucking burgers even smaller.

Does anyone remember how much bigger the Big Mac was in the 90’s? Shrinkflation is everywhere.

P00ptart ,

They could always try to lower the quality standards to lower the price. Lmao! Quality standards! As if!

TastyWheat ,

Can’t wait for the McSawdust in 2026!

calcopiritus , in Websites are Blocking the Wrong AI Scrapers

robots.txt doesn’t prevent scrapping.

It is just a suggestion. Bots that care will read it, bots that don’t, won’t.

andrewta , (edited ) in McDonald's to 'rethink' prices after first sales fall since 2020

First sales fall since 2020.

Three years? So what? That’s nothing. Now if they said first sales fall since 2002, now that would be something.

SaltySalamander ,

No business weathered Covid without a drop in sales, except maybe for the healthcare sector. Good luck finding any customer-facing business that survived Covid without lost sales.

andrewta ,

Yeah basically all business lost money when covid hit.

RunningInRVA ,

Healthcare definitely lost out during the pandemic. Hospitals were struggling to stay open amidst consumers opting to delay elective procedures.

Taleya , in McDonald’s earnings, revenue miss estimates as consumer pullback worsens

Have you tried paying attention to what customers want and will accept rather than dictating to them?

Companies are entering a new age of FAFO

RagingRobot ,

Yeah these companies have gotten so out of control. They act like they are gods gift to earth and we should be grateful for anything they allow us to have. The same goes for employment too. They treat people like shit because they think someone else will come around and be grateful for the opportunity.

I’m not accepting that anymore

ripcord ,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

Oh, so what I’m hearing you say is that no one wants to work anymore!

sparkle ,

Japanese employers are currently under a major “crisis”, that crisis being that Gen Z employees won’t work 20-40 extra hours in a week unpaid, won’t participate in corporate family culture “bonding with your boss” bullshit, wont take 「no, I refuse your notice of quitting」 as an answer, actually report workplace (sexual) harassment, among other things. Except unlike in America, the employers in Japan are actually having to adapt to employees respecting themselves because their population is on the brink of collapse from not having enough young people lol, they don’t just have other people they can hire. Obviously because of the unbearable work “culture” which doesn’t allow you to have a family life, combined with the rampant sexism against women throughout Japanese society and culture keeping them from interacting with men.

9bananas ,

japan is also kinda fucking itself over twice:

  • they don’t have enough young workers and treat them like shit, which is directly causing the pushback you describe
  • they are so xenophobic that they can’t just hire foreign labor either

so, yeah, double fucked!

cows_are_underrated ,

Fuck you MC Donalds for forcing me to use your god damn stupid ass terminals for ordering something. There are just a few things I hate with such a passion than this god forsaken pieces of shit. Let me order my food at the counter. Its a much better experience and its hell a lot faster. They are one of the many reasons I don’t go there.

Threeme2189 ,

If only the terminals were the real issue. It’s mostly the shit tier food at absurdly high prices…

FinishingDutch ,
@FinishingDutch@lemmy.world avatar

The few times I used ordering kiosks at McD’s or Burger King, I actually preferred them over ordering at the counter. At least with the kiosk, I can take my time, look at options and order without feeling pressured by the line behind me. I’ve got a visual disability , and it’s much easier for me to use than to read a menu that’s posted behind the counter.

And you know at least the order went through correctly, as opposed to dealing with some stoned teen who barely speaks the language and is liable to mess it up.

The kiosks definitely aren’t why I don’t go to MC’s. It’s the insane prices.

sfxrlz ,

Im With you this but I just don’t like to talk to people who don’t want to talk to me. Worked as a gas station clerk once and I was always thankful for people using self checkout.

FinishingDutch ,
@FinishingDutch@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, definitely can relate :D I was downright ecstatic when my supermarket got self-checkout. I absolutely hate waiting in lines, small talk, etc. With self-checkout I’m done in 30 seconds.

sfxrlz ,

Yup that’s me as well :D I just never used them in the beginning because they were failing a lot of the times which meant you had to call over a clerk, who’s usually already in demand and it just took even longer … but it’s gotten better.

bluewing ,

You are so right about those terminals. I hate them with a passion too.

OneWomanCreamTeam ,

Honestly I would prefer the terminals to ordering from a person. If they fucking worked that is, big shame they almost never do.

Manmoth , in Biden calls for supreme court reforms including 18-year justice term limits

Why doesn’t he add term limits for congress? And make stock trading illegal for congress? And ban lobbying? etc etc. This “anti-corruption” bill is really ignoring the elephant(s) in the room.

FrowingFostek ,

Prolly need congress to do this

Stupidmanager ,

Small steps. This is good, fixes the larger problem we’re facing today. If we pass this, then we tackle the next. And then the next…

Manmoth ,

The proposals I listed are MUCH bigger issues.

Stupidmanager ,

and to the rest of us they are important. They are big issues that are harder to fix because it requires those in charge to do something not in their best interest. Strategy and time, we must do it the hard way unless you want to rise up your secret army of leftists that will quickly fix this shit.

Manmoth ,

An army of leftists wouldn’t fix anything

Ragnarok314159 ,

It’s an iterative process. Think evolution, not revolution.

AnxiousOtter ,

You: Why doesn’t the president do something!

President: does something

You: Why doesn’t the president do more!?!

Etc ad infinitum.

squirrelwithnut , in Donald Trump Photo Without Ear Bandage Raises Eyebrows

Couldn’t the image have simply been flipped along the vertical axis?

PythagreousTitties , (edited )

It could have, yes. Would an AP photographer and or Pete Souza do that? Very highly unlikely. He also combs his hair that way.

You could also ask,
Couldn’t the picture have simply been made with ai?

The answer to both questions is the same.

meco03211 ,

But if I’m just asking questions and am a fragile snowflake, I can simply ignore any answers and continue asking questions.

PM_Your_Nudes_Please ,

His hairstyle isn’t symmetrical though. It has a side-part on the opposite side of his injured ear. So unless he suddenly decided to change the part of his hair (which, when you consider how involved it actually is because it’s a massive combover) it’s unlikely to be a flipped image.

In short: Because we can’t see his hair part in this image, we know it’s likely not flipped.

aramis87 , in McDonald's to 'rethink' prices after first sales fall since 2020

the firm would lean on discounts to try to stop the sales decline

So not even price cuts, just temporary discounts. Eff off!

DunkinCoder ,
@DunkinCoder@lemmy.world avatar

Dynamic pricing inbound.

Drusas , in McDonald's to 'rethink' prices after first sales fall since 2020

I don't get fast food often, but I did go to McDonald's a week or two ago. I learned that they replaced their fountains so that they no longer dispense water, so you can't get a free cup of water anymore. You have to buy a bottle of water or a soda.

I don't intend on ever returning to a McDonald's.

DunkinCoder ,
@DunkinCoder@lemmy.world avatar

The charging for packets thing is the one thing that irks me nonstop especially the employees that stick by it. Unless they’re getting penalized, why do you have to gatekeep an extra BBQ sauce for 25 cents?

Sure, keep them behind the counter so people don’t grab 20 but asking for 1-2 extra shouldn’t require a surcharge or separate transaction.

UnderpantsWeevil , in Elon Musk accused of spreading lies over doctored Kamala Harris video
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar
DancingBear , in FBI: Trump agrees to be interviewed for investigation into assassination attempt.

If they get a doctor to look at his ear they can probably see that it was shrapnel and not a bullet that hit him

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