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walnutwalrus , in Family died in Rockies after trying to live ‘off the grid,’ official says

amprim go brrr

malcriada_lala , in Family died in Rockies after trying to live ‘off the grid,’ official says
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I wish people would realize that humans only got to where we are because we are a COMMUNAL species. We developed complex language and tool usage BECAUSE we work together. Being “off the grid” is usually isolationist and therefore extremely dangerous. We need community in order to develop and manage the resources we need to survive.

Madison420 ,

Well no, there’s a difference between offgrid and alone and an offgrid commune.

KinglyWeevil ,

The secret ingredient is communalism.

Madison420 ,

Agreed, I’m a fan of village-regional center structure myself.

Tangent5280 ,

Oh, to be a seamstress, stitching clothes for the farmer’s infant son in exchange for a sack of wheat and 6 ounces of butter

HollandJim ,

Hate to ask what you’d need to do for a steak… 🤐

Tangent5280 ,

The current infant-clothes to steak exchange rate is unfavorable. It would be wiser to hold off till the late autumn, when steak futures usually fall and clothing values skyrocket.

HollandJim ,

Reasonable. See you in the back-40.

solstice ,

Yeah let’s all go back to subsistence agriculture! Every time my mind wanders and I find myself romanticizing an age of simpler times and communal living I remind myself of the realities of that sort of lifestyle.

soulifix ,

Well, why aren’t we practicing that communal specialty into you know, bettering society from it’s current dumpster fire state? Or is that just too tall of a task?

A_A ,
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Humans usually live in peace in groups smaller than 18. Above that, troubles hints. @nieceandtows said 40 &up here … i like (her//his) comment.

USSEthernet ,

There’s also Dunbar’s number to consider for groups larger than that.

A_A , (edited )
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Thanks 😀 I found it here :
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar's_number

…group sizes between 69–109 and 16–42, respectively. However, enormous 95% confidence intervals (4–520 and 2–336, respectively) …

Copernican ,

It’s dangerous to go full off the grid, but in reality it’s never complete isolation. In Leave No Trace/My Abandonment (based on a true story) the father relied on disability checks to buy goods and educated his daughter using encyclopedias… In Walden Thorough is living alone in a remote area, but it’s not like he’s completely cut off from the benefits of society and has visitors somewhat regularly. I think there’s a difference between trying to minimize the brunt of society 24/7 vs going full isolation.

Pokethat ,

I’m a world of growing instability where the inputs for modern lifehave their supply consistency threatened, learning some basic survival skills is not a bad thing. Many countries will likely have huge energy, food, and water shortfalls in the coming years. Germany is burning what amounts to wet coal to make up for losing Russian oil. Ukraine was one of the world’s biggest wheat producers. Russia produced a lot of the world’s fertilizer. There are reasons to learn how to live without the entire support network most of us take for granted.

Though you should be pretty decent at living off grid before commiting to it.

Don’t assume that you’re cougar-proof or that 40°F and below weather with no real insulation is something you can save yourself from with enough bootstraps.

blackbrook ,

Also, we’re living in kind of an unprecedented part of history that enables is to be independent of other people in ways never before possible. So that gives people a very distorted sense of that, a lack of any notion of the importance of community. And of course this “independence” is achieved by a complete dependence on this huge ubiquitous economic machine.

walnutwalrus ,

I think sometimes it’s the extreme dependence that makes the attempt at off the grid freedom seem more attractive; it’s weird how the technology seems to both take away so much freedom and yet make people feel independent at the same time

Smokeless7048 ,

theres a reason why banishment was historically a death sentence. It took communities to prosper!

doppelgangmember , in Norway, Finland battle rapid spread of bird flu

Babe wake up, new pandemic just dropped

Rom , in Mother of Uvalde victim runs for mayor in special election approved by the city
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I hopes she wins and dismantles the police department for being a useless waste of money.

Chunk ,

Don’t dismantle it. Launch an investigation, bring charges, publicize the trial, convict the officers, and lock them up.

TechnoBabble ,

She’s trying to be mayor, not the queen.

One mayor stands no chance against the system of DAs, lawyers, unions, and judges, that protect the police.

Between qualified immunity and “no specific obligation to protect”, you’d be hard pressed to find any charges that stick.

Slagathor ,

And then dismantle the department.

fubo , in An inflation gauge closely tracked by the Fed falls to lowest level in 2 years

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WASHINGTON (AP) — A measure of consumer prices that is closely monitored by the Federal Reserve fell last month to its lowest level since March 2021, the latest sign that inflation in the United States is steadily cooling from its once-painful highs.

The inflation report that the Commerce Department issued Friday also showed that Americans’ willingness to keep spending, despite two years of high inflation and 11 Fed rate hikes over 17 months, remains a powerful driver of the economy.

Consumer spending rose 0.5% from May to June, up from 0.2% the previous month.

This can occur as persistent consumer demand enables more companies to raise prices, thereby keeping inflation above the Fed’s target and potentially causing the central bank to raise rates even higher.

Powell declined to offer any signal of the central bank’s likely next moves.

The Fed’s policymakers consider core prices a better measure of where inflation might be headed.

SeaJ OP ,

Thanks for the heads up. I removed the indents so hopefully that helps. I’ll also see if there is a setting in TLDRThis to get rid of those.

SheeEttin ,

Oh, so that’s what that was. It was doing that in the Connect app too, but not monospace.

expected_crayon , in Mastercard demands US cannabis shops stop accepting debit cards

Except Mastercard is lying, FinCEN has specifically issued guidance for national finance institutions (banks, credit cards, etc.) to be able to accept cannabis transactions in states that have legalized. Most of these finance institutions are just unwilling to accept the additional cost of complying with the regulations. There’s a reason why Valley National Bank is so popular with cannabis companies - it’s a national bank that follows FinCEN guidelines. It comes at a higher cost, but a lot of companies feel it’s worth it.

And this FinCEN guidance wasn’t just issued - it was issued in 2014. The only reason the cannabis industry doesn’t have widespread access to traditional finance, and why banks keep lobbying for the SAFE Banking Act, is because the banks don’t want to have to do the extra work to comply with the FinCEN guidance.

Note - I agree it’s stupid that cannabis is federally illegal and think it should be legalized (or at the very least deschedule it and let states decide if they’ll allow it). But Mastercard could choose to follow FinCEN guidance if they wanted to.

noredcandy , in Mastercard demands US cannabis shops stop accepting debit cards

Kinda an incendiary headline when it’s just Mastercard complying with the law. From the article: “The federal government considers cannabis sales illegal, so these purchases are not allowed on our systems,” Really the issue is that Marijuana should be legal at the federal level.

Speculater ,
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Yet it stays illegal because of conservative boomers and their fucking grand kids.

FoxBJK ,
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When polled, majorities are in support of legalization. If people would show up to vote more than once every 4 years we could make some actual progress on this issue. But since at least half of registered voters sit out every race, well here we are.

Worth noting that even some conservatives support legalization!

shectabeni ,

It’s too bad those conservatives who do support it are the same people who vote against all of their own interests constantly.

Simpkill ,

The current president can reschedule marijuana. He won’t. He claims not to be conservative, but I’m not convinced.

Crashumbc ,

He’s neither he’s a puppet whos only purpose is to get re-elected ATM.

afraid_of_zombies ,

And yet I bet I can buy mortgaged backed securities with a MasterCard

pozbo ,
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And yet I bet I can buy mortgaged backed securities

AND shares in pot companies. How fucking illegal. Maybe the federal government can stop these pot companies from being traded openly considering how illegal it is.

afraid_of_zombies ,

Nah maybe the federal government can stop sucking off Goldman Sachs cock and start looking after the people who it claims to represent and who are paying taxes.

RagingRobot ,

Then why isn’t Mastercard calling for that to happen?

Crashumbc ,

I would personally love if ALL businesses stayed the fuck out of politics. Thank you.

Dark_Blade ,
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Because they, as a corporate entity, don’t want to mess around with the law over something that won’t personally affect their bottom line in a massively positive manner.

talos , in Niger coup: General Tchiani declares himself leader
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Named himself “President of the National Council for the Safeguard of the Homeland” according to another article.

Hank ,

He needs a couple promotions until he's on a similar level as His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, Victoria Cross, Distinguished Service Order, Military Cross, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular.

667 , (edited )
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So much pomp in that one. I’m a fan of Norton I. Emperor of the United States, and Protector of Mexico. Rolls off the tongue and can be delivered between bites of fruity pebbles cereal.

lanolinoil ,
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Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho

doppelgangmember ,

Always a good sign to see “the Homeland” in the any title…

money_loo , in Reuters: Tesla’s secret team to suppress thousands of driving range complaints

Gas cars do this too.

Years ago I bought an Infiniti truck that advertised 18 mpg. After owning and driving it I only got 9 mpg.

I wish the government would crack down harder on this sort of blatant misleading “advertising” so gas or electric, we’d have a better idea of what we’re purchasing.

Fapper_McFapper ,

Yes but I can usually walk to a gas station, buy a gas can, fill it up, walk back to my car, pour gasoline in the tank and then drive away.

What am I supposed to do if I own a Tesla? Walk to the nearest Lowe’s, purchase a multi fuel generator, attach it to my car, then walk to the gas station, buy a gas can, fill it up, walk back to the car, fill up the generator, crank the generator, hook it up to my car, then drive away?

RojoSanIchiban ,

This is decades-old hypothetical that just doesn’t happen in the real world unless the driver is an idiot. Never in the quarter century of driving gas vehicles did I ever run out of gas.

Likewise you don’t just suddenly run out of charge in an EV. In Teslas you get automatically routed to superchargers, and if somehow you’re too far away from the nearest one, you get miles and miles of warnings about having an insufficient charge to reach it if you, I dunno, somehow camped for days with the A/C on in the middle of nowhere.

In that catastrophic event, you stop literally anywhere with any AC outlet, you plug in your mobile charger, and wait less time than it’d take to hike to a gas station to charge enough to make it to a DC fast charger. Or better yet, someone tow-charges you through regenerative braking for a couple miles and you end up with more than enough to make it to a supercharger.

The article is about total range advertised vs. real world range, and you can go literally anywhere in the lower 48 and be in easy range of a DC fast charger, let alone a 120v outlet.

Voyajer ,
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Dang, which model?

girlfreddy ,
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@Voyajer @TheTango @money_loo

All of them ... or at least most of them. The numbers given are based on limited variables and almost never include qualifiers like proper tire pressure must be maintained, easy acceleration vs flooring it, usage of AC, etc etc ... which all affect fuel consumption rates.

Voyajer ,
@Voyajer@kbin.social avatar

Nobody should expect to reach fuel efficiency targets if they don't even attempt to drive efficiently. Your other points stand though.

money_loo ,

It was a QX56 before they renamed it, but like that other guy said, it’s pretty much all of them as the car manufacturers are incentivized to give you the absolute best case usage scenarios for everything, and then slap that on a sticker as if it’s real world data.

Voyajer ,
@Voyajer@kbin.social avatar

Oh wow, even their claimed mileage is terrible.

doppelgangmember , in Big central banks hike again with end of tightening in sight

In sight… right…

Strangle , (edited ) in Family died in Rockies after trying to live ‘off the grid,’ official says

This is very sad, and preventable.

Reading the article it sounds like this woman unfortunately just spent too much time on social media reading all the doom and gloom of the media and people amplifying it in places like reddit, Twitter and Facebook.

wanted to live in a land disconnected from the world, which she viewed as chaotic and dangerous

she and her teenage son could be happy and safe away from the news, the viruses, the politics of modern-day America

had been “discouraged with the state of the world”

Rebecca Vance’s fears intensified during the pandemic

Consuming too much of this crap has really affected peoples mental health, from Trump, to BLM riots, racism, covid, it’s broken some people who spend too much time on social media.

So much so that they think the only way out is to hide away from society.

Reminder, friends, to take frequent and extensive breaks from social media for your own mental health.

BakedGoods ,

The teenager — whom Jara described as a smart and caring son who had been a “mama’s boy” and had been home-schooled

The only food found at their shelter was a single package of ramen

FoxBJK ,
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she and her teenage son could be happy and safe away from the news, the viruses, the politics of modern-day America

Just close the apps. That’s literally all it takes to avoid like 90% of the crap that she’s talking about. But the viruses… did she think those don’t make it to the forest or something?

InverseParallax ,

Please, I knew people who were exactly the same back in the 90s, there are always people who go down the paranoia rabbit hole and don’t come back out.

Lot of them were praying for the collapse because that’s when God would raise them above the wicked heathens and sodomites because they’re secretly special but everyone else is too evil to admit it.

CeruleanRuin ,
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The article said the poor kid was homeschooled, which is often a hallmark of religious fundamentalism. Not trusting the world and thinking it’s out to get you is also a hallmark of fundamentalism - but also of mental illness.

cantstopthesignal ,

She’s from Colorado Springs (massive conservative area) and she became concerned about the world and wanted to live off the grid in 2022 (when Trump lost). The writer of this article sure does beat around the bush and struggles not to say whether she was a right wing nut.

_finger_ ,
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And remember that despite some unique large scale issues we have today, there were much, MUCH worse times to be alive. “Majority of Americans live a peaceful life and die at 70-80” is not reportable news but still largely true.

Things are far from perfect, there are major issues, but I’d choose to live today than almost the entirety of human existence previously.

There were definitely way more violent times in the US: there were pandemics, there were revolts, there were wars. We live in an amazing time but it takes a bit of grand perspective to realize that all the bad news is easy to see in a matter of minutes. You can have death and destruction delivered right into your home in a matter of milliseconds. It’s much much harder to see all the wonderful things happening in the world

Saneless ,

Not reading Twitter has a tangible impact on my anxiety. You can feel it rise when I used it, fell away when I stopped.

I haven’t used Facebook in almost 2 years now and it’s so nice

lolcatnip ,

The BLM “riots” were 99% protests where the only violence was on the part of the cops harassing protesters.

candyman337 ,
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100%. Some people exploited the riots to break into stores but they were the significant minority, and additionally some were outed as bad actors who actually didn’t support the movement.

candyman337 ,
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You can’t lump in blm riots in there, those were protests stoked to violence by police officers, so what you should be saying it’s, corrupt police forces resulting in blm protests

Derproid ,

Man gotta love when those protesters storm the local grocery store to fight social injustice. BLM!

DaveFuckinMorgan ,
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You can’t deny that there is something fascinating about this video. www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUO8secmc0g

Notyou ,

Maybe I’m being too generous, but I was reading it as this person consumed too much media, including lies and exaggerations, and it warped their world view. I guess I read it as a topic like and not calling them riots themselves. Kinda like the “race riot” in Tusla, but idk.

Blamemeta , in Houston-area teacher fired for attending drag show at downtown bar

Taught at “First Baptist Academy”

Went to a gay bay to see a drag performance and posted it on social media.

Wtf did she expect? Best case scenario, they don’t notice.

FlyingSquid ,
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I’m guessing Texas is an at-will state, but just going to a show of any kind in your private time should not be a firing offense no matter where you work. I don’t care if you work for the Southern Poverty Law Center and go see a minstrel show on Saturday. You’re doing it on your private time.

chiliedogg ,

Religious institutions have a little more freedom in certain areas regarding who they can hire and fire depending on their job duties.

For instance, a preacher for a Baptist church can be required to be Christian as a condition of their employment. But they can’t fire a janitor for religious reasons because their faith has no impact on the work they perform.

For teachers, they probably have a policy regarding public support of the church and its doctrines that was violated when the teacher posted about attending a drag show.

It’s stupid, but it’s legal.

I have similar restrictions at my job in municipal government. I’m not allowed to get involved in local politics or advocate for or against candidates openly. As a public official, I’m always at least somewhat on duty.

Hell, I have to be careful about what I text, because my personal phone is subject to Open Records requests.

FlyingSquid ,
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I think it’s much simpler than that. Texas has been an at-will employment state since the 1800s. As long as it doesn’t violate civil rights, you can be fired for pretty much any reason in Texas. They can fire you because they don’t like your face.

chiliedogg ,

Absolutely, but for religious institutions they can even ignore civil rights in some instances. You can be fired for religious reasons, which is usually a big no-no.

And at-will isn’t just a Texas thing. All 50 states and DC are at-will employment.

Voiden ,

With the exception of Montana after a 12 month probation period

Clocksstriking13 ,

As long as the thing they don’t like about your face isn’t it’s color. But seriously American employment laws (in most states) allow for companies to fire people for any non-protected reason (protected reason = gender, race, age, etc). If a co.pany does illegally fire a person it can be a real up hill battle to prove it because at-will is so permissive.

I can’t say a firing like this one sits super well with me personally but it’s almost certainly legal.

afraid_of_zombies ,

Yeah but in your position it kinda makes sense. I don’t think career civil servants should be out there with even the hint of their office support endorsing candidates.

Kinda interesting however that you are following strong ethical rules than all these powerful people above you.

chiliedogg ,

Most civil employees stick hard and fast to their rules regarding politicization with a giant exception for police who get away with (sometimes literal) murder.

Politicians are expressly political. The difference is that politicians can be voted out of office by the public. I cannot be directly voted away. Even City Council or the mayor cannot directly fire me - the only staff members they have direct hire/fire authority over are the City Manager and the Municipal Judge.

orcrist ,

What did she expect? She expected to see a great show. Do you go through life worrying about Big Brother watching over your shoulder?

HonkTonkWoman ,

Seriously, she has a 19 year history with the school, she deserves better than this. Shame on the school.

That’s like randomly firing employees for eating lunch at Jersey Mikes because Subway is a new sponsor of the employer.

Or getting fired because you went to a Widespread Panic show & your boss happens to be a Phish fan.

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  • HonkTonkWoman ,

    We are the good people

    Bonskreeskreeskree ,

    If its not on LinkedIn, who gives a flying fuck. Why are some people not allowed to share their personal lives on their personal social media pages?

    ManosTheHandsOfFate ,
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    Yeah, I don’t think this even qualifies as news.

    XTL ,

    I think it does, if readers think that this kind of thing isn’t still happening in some places.

    evilthecat13 ,
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    Why can’t there be a division of personal and professional lives? She didn’t take a Christian school class to a drag show.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    And now you know why us atheists keep arguing for not funding religious schools. They show a track record of this.

    steltek ,

    In Carson v. Makin, our lovely SCOTUS ruled that Maine should be forced to fund religious schools.

    Letstakealook ,

    Seriously, though, are people still pretending Christian organizations are filled with decent human beings? You can just point to the majority of western history as an example of the kind of people running these orgs.

    teft , in Melting Swiss glacier uncovers climber missing since 1986
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    Hope he’s alright.

    andrewta ,

    He’s been eating ice treats all this time. Lost a few pounds. Made a few penguin friends.

    LexiconDexicon , in Heat wave puts over two-thirds of U.S. population under heat alerts

    According to weather.gov the record here was 102 in 1911…

    leinheart ,

    That’s certainly information…?

    LexiconDexicon ,

    It is indeed

    according to weather.gov it was 46 F on 7/28 here in 1946…that’s the record low; 102 F was the record high on 7/28 in 1911

    RagingRobot ,

    I love the weather here usually

    LexiconDexicon ,

    It’s not bad this year, more rain then we know what to do with. Been great for my garden

    Alto ,
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    Care to send some my way? I've never seen the creeks and streams near my house this low before

    LexiconDexicon ,
    bdiddy ,

    Now imagine the future where every single day is at or above the record set 80 years ago

    soyagi , in Feedback needed for new rules V2!

    Regarding Rule 6, this seems to say that the same story with a different source is okay. I don’t think this should be the case. The same story regardless of source should not be reposted unless it adds new information.

    Thekingoflorda OP ,
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    It’s not meant like that. But the automod won’t leave a message if you use a different source.

    The final rules will be collapsed, so you would only see:

    rule 6: No duplicate postsIf a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.

    gAlienLifeform ,
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    So what does “a source” mean in this rule? So long as the article text isn’t a 100% copy of a story that’s already been posted (like with AP articles that get reprinted in dozens of papers) we’ll be ok to post it, right?

    Getting multiple perspectives on a story is a big part of why I come to forums like these, and I worry that it’s just going to get ugly if we have a situation where you’re removing the NPR article about something because someone posted the Wall Street Journal coverage of it first (or vice versa).

    Thekingoflorda OP ,
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    The bot will only check that you don’t post exactly the same URL, so don’t worry (:

    gAlienLifeform ,
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    Very good, thank you for clarifying that!

    soyagi ,

    So it’s okay for people to post the same story from different sources or not? It’s still not clear to me.

    Thekingoflorda OP ,
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    We discourage spamming the same story over and over again, but sometimes different sources bring different perspectives on a story. So it will be judged on a case-by-case basis.

    The bot can ofcourse not detect those duplicates, so moderating it will be more difficult.

    soyagi ,

    “moderating it will be more difficult”. So does that mean it is allowed or not? If you “discourage spamming the same story over and over again”, do you mean from the same person, or from everyone? So if ten different people posted the same story from different sources, is that allowed or not? The rules are not clear, and your further explanation still isn’t clear to me.

    Thekingoflorda OP ,
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    If it ever comes to a point where the same story get’s spammed to an annoying degree, we will communicate that we won’t accept any more of those posts.

    But we probably won’t moderate before that.

    We can always alter the rules later if that turns out to be a problem.

    gAlienLifeform , (edited )
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    I disagree, different perspectives from different reporters almost always add at least some new information and seeing how many outlets are reacting to a story gives me a sense of how “big” the story is. I’d make an exception if the article text is 100% identical because it’s an AP reprint or something, but otherwise I think the mods should leave this alone.

    e; apologies for double post, having some site/app instability at the moment

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