I always wonder in these cases where idiots lash out denying climate change that deep down they do it as a coping mechanism, because if they accepted it exists it would quickly weigh down on them how fucked up our environment is.
By denying it they don’t have to think about the world about to go to shit. Maybe that’s why people still have kids.
I remember talking to an adult about religion when I was in high school, and they straight up told me, “the only reason people are nice to each other is so they can get into heaven, without Jesus, there is no motivation for people to be kind, so we have to spread the gospels.”
I was horrified, but all of a sudden, my understanding of the world view for a lot of people just clicked into place
These people are so deranged that if they have a single value overlap with “the libs” they lose their shit. If they can’t be polar opposites they don’t know how to handle it
I thought it was going to be a “science” documentary about flat earth. But it actually turned into more of a psychology documentary and is a tiny bit similar to what you are talking about. Why they believe and don’t change their mind.
It's really weird how in the rest of the world, climate change is an accepted scientific fact. We ain't doing much about it, that's true but at least we aren't straight up denying it like some Americans... what is it with the US always having the dumbest of the dumb? Or maybe they are just super loud?
They’re super loud and have the backing of loud megaphones in industry and media, same as y’all. I wouldn’t be surprised if at this point the numbers were similar.
Also a country full of people who own obnoxious, selfish, vain gas guzzlers, who actively ridicule anyone trying to drive a sensible car, and cancel out all the effort the rest of us are at least trying to do
That’s not true, all countries of the world have groups / politcal parties that deny science. It’s the “easy” way, and some people prefer to believe in the easy way, instead of reasonably concluding that reality is not easy.
At least in Canada and most of the European countries, these people are mocked out of public space. Only in the US do they have a microphone and that's the point I'm bringing. I know there are stupid people in every country. But why are they taken seriously in the US and not the other countries?
Yep, the US lags behind most of Europe in regards to attitudes around climate change. However the disparity is more of shades of gray rather than the dramatic binary situation you described. There are deniers in every single country listed, and even Germany reported a full 27% of their population not considering climate change a serious threat. Sweden had 30%
On a longitudinal level, concerns about climate change have increased everywhere, including the US. Between 2013 & 2018, the proportion of US respondents who considered climate change a major threat increased 20%.
Unsurprisingly, there's a major partisan gap in the US. 83% of left-leaning respondents considered it a major threat, whereas only 27% of right-leaning ones did.
From what I gather from online it is very different though. For example our conservative party was the first government in the world to talk publicly about climate change. The view hasn’t really changed (Boris tried to ride the wave of anti global warming for a bit before turning and trying to take credit for renewables). Also our carbon taxes are way higher. In the UK party wise it’s more of a how much are we going to do about climate change.
I like your post but it’s missing nuance I believe. Not that is easily quantifiable.
I’d rather not see their smiles and not get whatever illness they may have. There’s a reason food prep people wear hair nets, gloves, blue band-aids, and all that other stuff. We’re just getting done with a global pandemic, can we let people wear masks if they want to for a while please?
The people who made this decision when they talk about vaccines: “My body, my choice, you can’t tell me what to do!”
Same people, when they talk about masking, abortion or anything else: “Your body, my choice, I can and will tell you what to do!”
My skull would probably crack from the cognitive dissonance if I tried holding these two opinions, but it seems some people have no issues with it at all…
The monthly principal payments on a $1M note at 3% is equal to the monthly payments of a $500,000 note at 8%.
Running the numbers through an online mortgage calculator, I’m not seeing it quite that bad. Though, there are more variables than just the interest rate which need to be considered. I’m using the calculator at: www.bankrate.com/mortgages/mortgage-calculator/
for those who want to follow along.
A $1,000,000 mortgage at 3% over 30 years, with no down payment has a Principal and Interest payment of $4,216
A $500,000 mortgage at 8% over 30 years with no down payment has a Principal and Interest payment of $3,668
So, not equal. If we assume a 20% down payment for each loan, leaving all other variables unchanged, we get $3,372 and $2,935 respectively. If we assume a constant $100,000 down payment (10% of the $1M mortgage and 20% of the $500k mortgage), the numbers are $3,794 and $2,935 respectively (there was no change for the $500k loan).
Overall, the claim seems to be incorrect. That said, if you look at the $500k loan, with a 20% down payment and drop the interest rate from 8% to 3%, the monthly payment drops from $2,935 to $1,686 and the total cost of the loan drops from $1,056,687 to $607,202, a rather significant drop.
I miscalculated at 9% which is $4,023. Which is within $200 of the value. Regardless though my statement still stands. 6 interest points yields almost a 50% cut in buying power. Any of the other levers can tweak it but the core of the premise remains the same.
2008 saw the unprecedented approval of loans, but also there were a LOT of adjustable or variable rate mortgages. So as rates increased sharply, people all of a sudden were deep under water. At least here they still have low rates. even if it is on a higher priced house, their payments won’t be getting worse.
But yes housing prices are out of control. People are starting to feel it, and it could very quickly go wrong for people. People even have crazy high loans on used cars. Going to be very interesting how it plays out.
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