Haven’t bought a HP since their support told me to just buy a new printer and that the warning message wasn’t going away even though they could not confirm anything was wrong with it
Man fuck these comments. He explicitly said he wanted to ruin the rest of her life. He intentionally posted them with her full name and address, endangering her. And to ruin her chance at getting/keeping a job. Dude does deserve to have his wages garnished for the rest of his life, at least there's a cap on UNLIKE WHAT HE TRIED TO DO TO HER!
Most of the disgusting comments are at least being criticized directly. Can’t silence the fuckheads, but you can appreciate other people dunking on them, at least
Dude does deserve to have his wages garnished for the rest of his life
I agree.
However, if he made 100k a year and had to pay all of that, his life would have to last 12 million years. Just seems like some of the maths here is a bit off. But maybe I just don’t understand the American justice system.
I mean we do multiple life sentences or life + so many years so I don't see why the same logic wouldn't apply when the penalty is monetary. It's a super high number to ensure he's paying the rest of his life, even if he suddenly comes into a bunch of money. It's intended as a warning.
I mean how much money can you put on the price of someone's life, safety, or missed future potential earnings? I think it was just a huge number to "ruin the rest of his life" as he attempted to do.
For example, the McDonald's coffee lawsuit. The coffee was so hot it melted that lady's skin together. And this was an ongoing issue that McDonald's had been warned of several times and didn't listen. So while the lady was just trying to get her medical costs covered, the jury awarded an additional $2.7m in punitive damages because McDonald's didn't listen. Punitive damages are literally money as punishment.
It’s a super high number to ensure he’s paying the rest of his life, even if he suddenly comes into a bunch of money. It’s intended as a warning.
Yes, I get that. Still I find it a very strange, even macabre. I made the point in a couple of other comments, but got no useful replies so far.
It seems to me this guy was basically convicted to living at “minimum wage” or at least some minimum that can’t be taken from him, so he can cover his basic needs.
So he is convicted to being poor. Nothing else. But, like there is actual poor people with a very similar standard of living, that did nothing wrong. It just doesn’t seem fair. How shitty must it be, as a poor person, that your neighbour is there only because he was convited to have your shitty live?
Also, what if he was already super poor before that and he won’t come into any fortune. What money are you even gonna take from him? Does that mean if you’re already poor you can just publish revengeporn, because what are they gonna take from you?
Like, if you’re poor … what is the “warning”? That they make sure you gonna be poor forever? Chances are that would be the case anyway.
Also, what incentive does this guy now have to actually contribute to society by doing anything more than the minimum he needs to afford?
I don't disagree. Income inequality is an overarching issue in the US. As is charging monetary damages that will never be paid out. My mom was injured in a car accident by someone driving under the influence, and she had to cover all her medical bills out of pocket despite winning in court because the dude wasn't even working and had no money to garnish.
I was more talking about how it fits in with the current system, as flawed as it may be. I don't have a good solution aside from overhauling the massive income inequality in this country. People working minimum wage jobs (which are usually jobs we need for society to function!) should not be living the same lifestyle as this dude.
So why no Prison for this dude? Like, I don’t want to sound like the typical anti-US European, but you send so many people to prison! The most in the world, by capita.
He deserves a couple of years and she deserves a reasonable amount of money that this guy can actually cough up. And then maybe things can move on.
Then again, from popular media I’m made to believe that US prisons are actually quite horrid, so maybe you don’t deserve that easily.
I just have the cynical feeling this guy actually got off lightly and the big number is just there to make for big media coverage with no real meaning.
Would the situation be any materially different if he had been convicted for $100.000, short of winning the lottery or inheriting a large sum? The fact that he made it his mission to ruin an ex’s life then didn’t show up to court tells me he’s not exactly the kind to have a legal high-paying job. Regardless of the exact monetary amount the consequences would have been the exact same, the difference is purely symbolic.
The American Justice System is broken, yes, but this particular case is hardly the best example of it. As an outsider looking in, I find it more troubling that you still have the death penalty, the whole “plead guilty or don’t get fair representation from your public defender” thing, over-incarceration, for-profit prisons, etc.
How shitty must it be, as a poor person, that your neighbour is there only because he was convited to have your shitty live?
Speaking as a poor person who learned why he is poor like me: fuck this guy. He deserved it. Literally tried to ruin her life and you expect us to feel bad he got punished for it? Like please.
Yeah, but who’s gonna protect the citizens now from all the thugs and gang bangers? Now that they’re jobless, the ex-police are gonna have way more time to harass brown people and shoot dogs without the constant need to fill out use-of-force reports.
That’s why we need to be giving guns to dogs, so they can also protect themselves from the ex-cops. 2a folk trying to arm everything all the time (teachers, good guys, etc) like it’s going to cure death
You seem to be imagining things about people you don’t know based on prejudice. Kinda like holding up a strawman to pretend to fight.
I support all of Americans’ Constitutional rights 100% but that doesn’t equate to actively trying to put guns in people’s hands. There’s clearly a place for regulation of the right, and we have that in place currently with age limits and background checks required for all retail gun purchases. Gun safety courses are required for a hunter to get a hunting license. So we have gun control already and I’m OK with that.
I’m not OK with any further restrictions on our Constitutional Rights, and I believe that more rights should be added rather than any infringements of the ones we already have. For example there should be a right to Privacy and Bodily Autonomy added to the US Constitution. We should also add some form of a right to access basic healthcare, without forcing any doctors to work without pay or in undue hardship.
Yeah you’re right, the conservative 2a folks and NRA talking points never went on about arming teachers to stop school shootings and never claimed that armed good guys with guns were the key to solving random mass shootings. /s
I made a bad joke about a dog, I’m not sure why the fuck you are talking about constitutional rights and background checks. Lmao speaking of straw man arguments you’ve got a whole fucking script laid out and it isn’t even relevant to the original shitty comment I made.
You seem to be desperate to be a victim of “prejudice.”
Whatever, keep on assuming all that stuff about people you don’t know anything about. I’m pretty content with my own situation regardless of anyone’s opinion.
“That idea of armed guards, or armed teachers, as a solution to gun violence often seems to come up in the wake of mass shootings, echoing National Rifle Association chief Wayne LaPierre’s long-touted notion that “the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is with a good guy with a gun.”
LaPierre famously made those remark after the Sandy Hook school shooting in 2012 that killed 20 children and six school staff, and reiterated it in February after the shooting at a Parkland, Florida, high school that left 17 dead”
Don’t trip over your big ol’ clown shoes there, friend.
That stuff about school shootings has nothing to do with me. I do have some long feet but I wear regular types of shoes in large sizes rather than ones made for clowns.
I’ll make sure to specify in all of my future comments that are not addressed to you that they are not addressed to you. Will that help you to understand how anonymous social media works?
While the ex-boyfriend does deserve strict punishment for sure, $1.2 billion dollars is absurd and it’s annoying to see revenge porn get more punishment than corrupt businessmen that have ruined many more lives.
The problem is not the he got a laughably high fine, it’s that the others don’t. I think something in the hundreds of thousands would be more appropriate for a private individual. I expect an appeal to reign that in some, if filed.
He’s not really wrong. We’re too biased, uneducated and ignorant to be able to accurately determine guilt. Until the populace is re-educated, it probably would b better to have panels of experts determine guilt, or only allow jurors that have at least obtained a bachelor’s degree in something. I am certain such suggestions are flawed, but not as badly as the system we have now that flagrantly enabled racism and genocide.
You don’t need a degree to be able to make an ethical or moral judgment wtf? With money being a major roadblock for education you’d be taking the voices away from a lot of good people whose only mistake is being born too close to the poverty line. That’s the exact opposite direction that anything should go in right now lol.
Who would even pick those “panel experts”? Local votes? Local government? Because that’s all been pretty shit so far on most fronts and feels like different means to the same end.
I don’t know what the solution is but I do know that it’s not gonna be any method that inevitably excludes and ostracizes people from participating in part of our legal system based on their income because that is absolutely what it boils down to. If anything I’d say a good direction might be to take cases from small communities that are more likely to hold a bias, consolidate them all under a more unified court system, and go with video court or something so there can be a properly neutral jury that truly has no skin in the game. I’m sure even that has its own major issues that I’m overlooking but at least it doesn’t separate people by financial status
You do need an education to vote on issues and to determine guilt in a lot of cases, amd before, when the populace was educated, the system was viable. Now it’s not, so it isn’t. It’s that simple.
Yeah but then we’d be ohigho and nobody wants that except for the people who hang out at the intersection of gay and high streets in Columbus /s
Added sarcasm tag because I’m an Ohioan who thought I was being clever. Seriously we’ve needed legal weed for years. Our medical cards are too restrictive as is.
All of these companies half ass and they simultaneously put off the bigots, the allies and the targeted communities in the middle.
Had target just planted it’s pride flag and held to it, headline is, “Hateful bigots who would have gone to target drove 5 more minutes to get to Wal-Mart this month”.
But jittery like bud light, they started to backpedal for profit midway through and pissed off everyone else.
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This pisses me off. Not that because such a thing like this has happened and who’s behind it. Of course, braindead trump dicklicker and deepthroaters yet throwing the world’s biggest tantrum over a fairly lead general election after 4 years prior, told everyone they opposed to, to “get over it”.
It pisses me off, that we do not have this kind of ambition and this kind of drive, towards GOOD things and resolves to our problems.
No, it’s for stupid fucking trivial things. I would’ve loved to have seen mobs of people storm Wall Street and harass all of those stock brokers and investors. I would’ve loved to have seen mobs of people over run billionaire’s homes. I would’ve loved to have seen staff workers going on a mass exodus and a revolt from being abused and misused.
But no, all of that shit is shut down in minutes. But bullshit antics like whatever the MAGATards are doing, yeah they somehow got the spotlight.
Can you imagine what kind of world or country we could have if all these MAGA-turds focused their energy on constructive things rather than DEstructive? It’s so sad.
Unfortunately any extremist views and actions seem only to cause harm. If that energy was focused towards more helpful notions we would be in paradise by now.
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