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I ordered my daughter a pizza, something I don't usually do. I got Domino's smallest size with two toppings. I got her cheese sticks and two sauces and tipped the driver 20%. $31.07.

Note I did not buy any food for myself.

To head off questions:

  1. No, I couldn’t cook for her. I’m suffering from a long-term illness where I can’t eat solid foods and am extremely smell sensitive. My wife is at a funeral, so I had to order food.
  2. She’s extremely picky and refused to let me order anything but pizza.
  3. We live outside of town, in a not very big town, with very few pizza delivery options, and they’re all at least this expensive.
  4. No, I didn’t also have to buy her the cheesy bread or the second topping or the sauces, but it’s nice to get my daughter a treat and that is no excuse for the order being that expensive.
  5. We’re in Indiana, so this should be ludicrous in terms of pricing. This used to be the pricing I would expect when we lived in L.A. and ordered from a good local place rather than a chain.

Edit: Turns out what I should have been infuriated about is people repeatedly telling me to get takeout and having to repeatedly explain why that wasn’t an option, having people not believe I’m sick, and being repeatedly berated for not magically knowing food coupons exist on the internet when I never order food on the internet. Oh right, and also being a bad parent for not forcing food my daughter doesn’t like down her throat or starving her if she won’t eat it.

By the way, I have another thing to be infuriated about. A huge storm came in and this happened to our trees. I assume I will start being berated for not cutting them down before that happened, but because I have no power or internet at home and have to go to the library to post, your further posts telling me what an idiot I am and how I’m an awful parent and how I’m not really sick will take me a while to read. Sorry to ruin your day. Maybe you’ll find someone else to treat like shit.

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Anyway, have fun telling me I’m the worst person on Lemmy, just don’t expect a quick reply.

Oh, and do tell me how stupid I am for not knowing that people who clear up and fix such damage have coupons on their website.

then_three_more ,

Even with an insane 20% tip I don’t think you’ve worked it out right. A 20% tip on the food (because why would you tip on a service charge??) comes to 4.09

TempermentalAnomaly ,

Yep. He tipped on top of the delivery charge and taxes. I it was 20% tip button that doesn’t isolate food.

then_three_more ,

Lol that’s so bad.

arin ,

By design, they know most Americans suck at math

UmeU ,

If you can tip a delivery driver $4 with a straight face I feel bad for you. $8 minimum for direct-to-doorstep food, regardless of the cost of the food.

then_three_more ,

You yanks are crazy with your attitude to pay.

UmeU ,

I didn’t say I like it, I just said that is the right thing to do.

then_three_more ,

Only because you live in a country where they don’t pay people properly.

UmeU ,

Yes, that is correct.

Also the drivers use their own personal vehicles so they experience all the extra wear and tear, fuel costs, more frequent tire and oil changes, etc.

It really is unfair which I why I make sure to tip decently.

then_three_more ,

So, you’re supporting the unfair system.

UmeU ,

I exist within the system. If I want a service which customarily involves a tip, that’s a part of what I signed up for.

Show me the legislation to abolish tipping while requiring employers to pay a fair wage and I’ll sign it.

Until then, if one wishes to receive a food delivery in the US, It’s sort of implied that you agreed to tip.

Giving a shit tip to a hard working poor person because you don’t like the tipping system isn’t the solution imo.

then_three_more ,

I thought yanks were all for the free market, tipping is the oppositeness to this as it negates the free market whereby companies complete with wages and benefits for staff.

UmeU ,

There are only like 5 companies now so the free market is broken.

They collude to keep us poor enough to not revolt, but ‘rich’ enough to keep buying their crappy products.

If they take everything we have we won’t have anything left to give them. It’s a delicate balance that they seem to have mastered as they write our legislation.

Tipping is just another way for the corporations to reduce the overhead by having the customer pay the wages of the employee directly, reducing both the budget for salaries and also the reducing ancillary expenses like unemployment insurance and employer wage withholding, occupational privilege tax, etc.

Also, I like being called a yank. It feels old timey and kind of makes me think of masturbation.

The labor market is so fucked we have phd’s competing for a job at McDonald’s.

then_three_more ,

Tipping is just another way for the corporations to reduce the overhead by having the customer pay the wages of the employee directly, reducing both the budget for salaries and also the reducing ancillary expenses like unemployment insurance and employer wage withholding, occupational privilege tax, etc.

It also makes these jobs falsely competitive against other “unskilled” jobs where tipping isn’t the norm.

MagicShel , (edited )

Us yanks aren’t all for anything. I’ve certainly become quite disillusioned about the free market over the past 40 years or so.

But in fact, free market principles suggest we would have tipless alternatives where workers make fair wages and the market could decide to reward those businesses or not. We do not have such alternatives and the market has failed us before the question is even properly posed.

uis ,

I think you are using wrong tool for this problem.

uis ,

Right thing to do is raise minumum wage.

UmeU ,

When that happens, if they raise it high enough to actually do away with tipping, then that’s great. Until then, hard working poor people need their tips.

uis ,

Preferably in cash.

Cryophilia ,

Depends on your area.

When I was a delivery driver I’d refuse anything less than $20 total, which meant about $18 of tip.

UmeU ,

$18 is a bit much, but I have 10 downvotes that say $8 is too much, so who am I to judge.

Cryophilia ,

It just meant bigger / more expensive food orders.

Delivering $100 worth of food takes almost exactly the same effort as delivering $10 worth of food, but the difference in tips is huge.

scottywh ,

20% tip is not insane.

then_three_more ,

It’s double what’s standard to tip for good service.

scottywh ,

Nowhere is the standard only 10%.

It’s been 15% for average service and more for “good” or exemplary as the standard for the half century I’ve been on the planet.

You Europeans are something else, man.

then_three_more ,

You Europeans are something else, man.

Lol because we expect companies to pay people properly rather than expecting customers to top it up.

Tipping is immoral as it allows companies to underpay. Tipping is anti free market as companies should be competing for staff through their remuneration packages.

The thing I’ve never understood about tipping culture in general and especially the American culture around it is why some low paid staff get it and some don’t.

Why do you tip your food delivery driver and not the guy delivering your Amazon package?

Why do you tip your wait staff, but not your supermarket checkout assistant?

scottywh ,

No, because you like to lie to yourselves that you’re superior and that your model is what is best and the same as everywhere else is or should be.

It’s delusional masturbatory bullshit.

(Speaking from experience as someone who has actually done both jobs) it’s primarily because the Amazon driver is paid more fairly… Notice I didn’t say they’re paid fairly, just more fairly… But also because there’s no expectation of interaction with the Amazon driver.

Regardless of your beliefs on morality you don’t have some moral high ground to preach to anyone based simply on where you were born and the customs that your culture chose to adopt before you were.

Get over yourself.

negativeyoda ,

Kinda shitty that Dominos has it set up so that tip is calculated on top of the delivery and service fees. Tipping on the value of food, I understand. Tipping on the cost of those other fees is double dipping and bad faith in my opinion.

Seriously, “y’all charged me a service fee to deliver my food? Cool! Let me tip you for that!”

Having done time in the service industry, I have no problem tipping where it’s warranted, but you’re tipping the Dominos corporation for their fuckery at that point, not the driver

jacksilver ,

That’s like 50% of all tip calculations nowadays. It’s really obnoxious and feels like it’s trying to make you feel guilty for tipping an appropriate amount, but taxes and service charges aren’t part of the service.

Dkarma ,

Dominoes has their own cars tho so the delivery fee is in theory for car wear

natecox ,
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Maybe this is a regional thing, but every pizza place that I’m aware of which delivers requires the delivery driver to use their personal vehicle… and does not reimburse for wear and tear.

BorgDrone ,

Why does your dominoes deliver by car? Seems like an incredibly expensive and environmentally unsound way of delivering pizza? Here they just use bikes like basically every other delivery place.

Solemn ,

Are you in the US? I’ve literally never seen a delivery driver on a bike, except for that action movie about bike couriers in NYC.

BorgDrone ,

No, I’m in the Netherlands. Why deliver by car when a bike is faster and cheaper?

greybeard ,

Because it isn’t faster and cheaper in the majority of the US. The nearest Pizza place to me is about 2 miles, the nearest that actually delivers? About 4 miles. And I’m within the city limits of one of the top 20 largest cities in the US. Our population densities are on a completely different scale than the Netherlands. Not saying we have good city designs, but as it is, a bike would a terrible way to deliver food to me.

BorgDrone ,

You’re saying that 6.5 kilometers by car would be faster than by bike in a city? In a car you’d be stuck in slow moving traffic or waiting for a traffic light like 80% of the time.

6.5km by bike would be like 20 minutes max, depending on city and time of day it would be 30-60 minutes by car.

Solemn ,

Our cities aren’t densely built up, except for New York. The actual urban area of most cities generally has far fewer people than the suburban metroplex surrounding it. 6.5km is literally larger than all of downtown Dallas, depending on how you define downtown.

Even our cities are designed for car travel, so unless it’s rush hour you’re still faster by car. Unless there’s a concert or other event happening, it doesn’t take nearly 20 minutes to traverse downtown Dallas in a car.

loudWaterEnjoyer ,

I lived in Dallas, this is bullshit. Dallas has traffic jams all the time and it gets worse and worse. There are more than enough studies you can find, just search them on some search engine and look at the data.

Solemn ,

I live in DFW right now. I’ll admit i don’t commute through downtown proper daily, but even when i do go through downtown after work it’s bad, but not nearly as bad as plenty of other places in thr US.

greybeard ,

That is correct, the median speed, as a rough guess, from the pizza place near my house, to my house, would be 35mph, including the 2 stoplights in the way. Assuming we had proper bike infrastructure(which we don’t); you’d be hard pressed to top the speed a car can go, and you would still have to stop frequently at lights, just like a car. And remember, that is the nearest place, not the only. And a small sub note, this area is not flat, at all. The gradient changes are brutal for bikes and they can’t sustain a decent constant speed. Well, at least before electric bikes.

I am not defending, in any way, America’s horrible car centric infrastructure. It is what we have though, and as a result, bike deliveries aren’t an option for the vast majority of America. Of course, when you leave the city, it gets worse.

BorgDrone ,

Assuming we had proper bike infrastructure(which we don’t); you’d be hard pressed to top the speed a car can go, and you would still have to stop frequently at lights, just like a car

Here it’s the exact opposite. There is no way a car can keep up with a bike in the city. Let’s say I wanted to go to the city center by car, which is about 2 kilometers. I would encounter 5 traffic lights just in that short drive. On a working day it would be slow, on a Saturday? Forget it. It would probably be faster to walk. Alternatively, I could go by bike and encounter exactly zero traffic lights. I would ride from my house to the bicycle highway (few hundred meters), and from there it’s an uninterrupted route to the city center. It’s a completely separate path and there are bridges crossing all major roads. Near the city center it turns into a shared space where bicycles have priority over cars. The city center isn’t accessible by car at all, so if you go by car you have to park your car at the edge of the city center (paid) and walk the rest. By contrast, I can cycle right up to any store and park my bicycle right in front of it.

naeap , (edited )

4 miles (approx. 6km?) would be 3mins per km -> 18mins by bike

Where is the problem?

In my city in Austria like 90% of the deliveries are done by bike/e-bike
There is even a platform/app where it's guaranteed to be delivered by bike.

How long do you thing does it take to bike a few kilometres?

Yeah, maybe your infrastructure isn't bike friendly, but that's a problem that can be solved.

I just don't get the mentally of "well, it is that way and everything else can't apply here"

Edit: being stoned and somehow missed finishing my first sentence

greybeard ,

And here, it can be as little a 6 minutes by car, assuming good light timing, and a max of 15 minutes, assuming terrible timing and unusual traffic.

BURN ,

Bike is not faster for a 20 mile delivery range

BorgDrone ,

Who the fuck orders food 32 kilometers away? Who the fuck even delivers at that distance? You’d pay more for gas than for the food. Never mind that your food would be cold when it arrives.

I live in a small city in a rural area and I have like 150+ delivery restaurants within 5 kilometers. It wouldn’t even cross my mind to order from a restaurant in the next city over (not that they would accept it), let alone one 40 minutes away.

BURN ,

The US. Our dominos served a 15-20 mile radius in my medium sized suburban town growing up.

BorgDrone ,

That’s absolutely insane. How many delivery drivers do they have for such a large area? 32 kilometers that’s an hour roundtrip even in a rural area with little traffic. If you order around dinner time you must have to wait for hours to get your food, even id they have like 10+ cars.

I checked and there are 18 dominoes in that radius around my home.

Solemn ,

Pizza delivery has electronically heated insulated containers for the drivers to keep the pizza in during the drive. Generally I think they group up orders so one delivery driver will hit up maybe 10-20 deliveries in that one run. It’s normally not driving 20 miles just to deliver one pizza.

BorgDrone ,

32 kilometers is still insane. How long do you have to wait for your pizza if they have to first wait for that many orders that need to go in that particular direction. Must be hours. Here it usually takes 15-20 minutes.

Solemn ,

15-45 minutes… I’m not exactly knowledgeable about pizza delivery logistics, so forgive me if I’m wrong about specifics. There was a decade or so where every chain promised delivery in 30 minutes or the pizza was free, but that’s no longer a guarantee these days.

BorgDrone ,

It depends on how busy it is. It’s mainly the time it takes to make the pizza. Delivery is a 900 meter bike ride. I think Dominoes uses e-bikes so that’s maybe 2 minutes?

greybeard ,

Something else you seem to be missing is often, a lot Americans live off highways. 20 miles may only take 20 minutes of drive time. When I lived in slightly more rural area, most driving took almost exactly minute per mile. Our entire country is designed around vehicles moving at high speed. My city is wrapped in a 60 mile interstate. An unbroken loop around the city who’s speed limit is 70mph. Outside of rush hour, you can take it all the way around at 80mph without ever braking in the slightest, unless there is a slow moving car camping the passing lane.

Trev625 ,

I wish we could ride bikes but here in the US there is absolutely no infrastructure for it. The closest Domino’s to me is 3 miles away. Riding a bike there would be extremely scary.

Even if you take Google’s specified bike route through the neighborhoods you still have to go out onto the main roads at some point. First main road speed limit is 30mph where people routinely go 40-45. Second main road is 35mph where people also go 40-45. And the final stretch of “stroad” speed limit is 45mph where people go 55-60mph.

Here you can use Google streetview and follow the route as if you were biking and see it yourself. maps.app.goo.gl/v4MnfPeZ9LuFzV8y6?g_st=ac (Don’t worry, I’m not doxxing myself)

BorgDrone ,

I’m shocked not just at the lack of proper infrastructure but also at how badly maintained and decrepit everything looks. If you showed me these pictures and told me this was somewhere in a former soviet state in eastern Europe I would have believed you.

You can take a look around my nearest Domino’s. This one is the closest to my place (not doxing myself either here). There is no dedicated cycling infrastructure here as this is in a 30 kilometer zone near a shopping center and a school (max speed ~ 18mph) so there’s lots of speedbumps the road is fairly narrow to encourage driving at low speed. If you move out of the 30 km/h zone you’ll see cycling infrastructure appear. It’s also a few hundred meters from the F35 bicycle highway.

Trev625 ,

Wow everything looks so well maintained! Guess that’s the difference when you look at taxes as doing your part for the good of everyone vs the “gubment stealin ur hard earnd cash” sentiment we have around here. Also it looks like things are just plain closer together too.

There are some nicer places a little bit southeast of where I live but they’re even further apart because the houses are bigger, the lots they are on are bigger and that makes the neighborhood larger which makes getting anywhere pretty much require a car. Not like I could afford living over there anyway haha

Rhaedas ,

The issue isn't the prices. It's that the prices go up but income doesn't. Get out the pitchforks, but let's go after the real villains.

Wrench ,

And the timespan of the increased cost of everything.

Since the pandemic, construction ply more than tripled in price and isn’t going down.

That’s insane. Income can’t keep up with that.

iopq ,

Your income maybe didn’t go up, but this isn’t true in general

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/db04d45b-4004-4047-9b4f-542a9aa2b4cc.jpeg

STUPIDVIPGUY ,

That graph doesn’t help you, it’s cropped

iopq ,

Click on it?

explodicle ,

It looks fine on my device, maybe it didn’t finish loading?

ChexMax ,

What am I missing about your point?

Looks like income dropped following 2020 and hasn’t returned yet… am I miss reading?

iopq ,

During the shutdowns there’s a compositional effect of lower wage workers losing their jobs.

I’m talking about the difference from 2019 to now, people are making more money even accounting for inflation

Rhaedas ,

Curious what shift there has been in full time/part time numbers. Full time wages going up is great for those who are experiencing it, but if there are less actual full timers, is that an improvement?

The art of a good statistician is to make sure what their numbers are saying is an actual reflection of reality. I'm not saying this graph is falsified, I don't know. But numbers can be made to say anything. I learned this years ago in arguments about what "unemployment" meant. It's much more complex than a single number, but a single number is used in the media because it's easier to paint the picture wanted.

iopq ,

More full time jobs

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/f5d1a356-3929-450b-a68b-02e30c51dce9.png

Rhaedas ,

Yes, definitely increased some. Where's the rest of the data, such as part time or unemployed, or even population growth? Like I said, a single number means not so much without context. But it's an impressive graph.

iopq ,

Unemployment is very low

Not really an improvement from 2019, but basically has been around that 4% value for a while

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In fact, president Biden noted “unemployment has been at or below 4% for 30 months—the longest stretch in 50 years.”

Rhaedas ,

Yes, there is a low unemployment number. As with the rest, you haven't validated that it's a good measure of the current state of things. It's arguably never been.

iopq ,

But itself, maybe not

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scytale ,

Do you have grocery delivery in your area? If she isn’t picky with the brand of pizza, maybe a $6 frozen pizza heated in the oven would be an alternative. Not sure if you have to tip, I haven’t tried it myself.

FlyingSquid OP ,
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Cooking a frozen pizza is not an option due to the smell sensitivity. If we order a pizza (which my wife usually does), I can go into my garage office while it is here, they can turn on the kitchen fan for 15 minutes, then I can come back in.

BearOfaTime ,

Wow, that’s pretty out there.

scottywh ,

Because it’s completely bullshit.

scottywh ,

That’s crazy… I can get more than 3 times as much food from Domino’s in a HCOL area for less money just by paying attention to the online deals and picking it up instead of delivery.

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Buddahriffic ,

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a pizza place sell small pizzas for a decent value. They price them to not sell. I’m guessing because they aren’t as predictable for the amount of volume you might need.

It wouldn’t have been cheaper to go for bigger (ignoring deals), but it wouldn’t have been much more and you’d have leftover pizza for lunch the next day.

s_s ,

That’s what 3 days worth of unhealthy hot food, delivered to your door should cost. It’s an extravagant service; it should be an extravagant price.

The real problem is that all those extra fees and expenses just go straight into owner pockets/shareholder value instead of providing the employees with medical care, proper insurance and a real retirement.

If you want to save money, teach your daughter how to safely cook a frozen pizza. If she’s old enough to be home alone and answer the door when strangers show up, why can’t she fed herself?

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I absolutely would not let my daughter answer the door for strangers if she was home alone. That’s a terrible idea.

s_s ,

You are best friends with all the dominos drivers?

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not even sure why her being home is relevant. I was there too and Domino’s drivers will drop the pizza off outside your door and leave.

TheOakTree ,

3 days worth of food? Maybe 3 meals for a child, not 3 days.

PythagreousTitties ,

They have small frozen pizzas that are in a cardboard box at places like Aldi’s and Walmart. They’re good, they actually have crust, and cheap. $8 for a supreme. I just get one of those sometimes.

I also ordered a small pizza and wings this past weekend from the pizza place in my area. $27, for take out. It’s like fast food and pizza joints are competing to see who can get more expensive.

KAYDUBELL ,

Just bought an ALDIs 16” pizza last night for $8.

PythagreousTitties ,

It’s not too bad, right? It’s actually got dough in it.

BearOfaTime ,

Yea, pizza places have gotten out of hand in recent years.

Adding a delivery fee (which doesn’t go to the driver) from locations that only do delivery.

How about fuck you and your delivery fee. Which is why I refuse to have pizza delivered any more. Plus they invariably get lost, though we’re a few hundred yards from their store.

Little Seizures sells the same pizza for half the price, or less, than Papa John’s, before those fees are tacked on.

chagall ,

Little Seizures is my second favorite pizza place after Delicious Aneurysm.

odium ,

Stroke hut is underrated

Neato ,
@Neato@ttrpg.network avatar

Pizza with extra sausage. Hand tossed.

DannyBoy ,

Hard to go wrong with a $5 $9 CAD Hot N Ready.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

The only LC here is inside a gas station, but I used to love their crazy bread years ago.

thefartographer ,

I’m sad you didn’t use my household’s name for the Papa: Poopy John’s

iopq ,

The driver still gets an hourly wage, so they still need to pay them for delivering. I don’t understand how you expect delivery to be the same price as pick up.

corsicanguppy ,

Now compare in-house and delivery. What’s a delivery guy but a waiter who won’t come back and refill my root beer? Worst waiter ever.

iopq ,

Domino’s where I am just drop your order at the counter. Does yours have waiters?

iopq ,

Domino’s where I am just drop your order at the counter. Does yours have waiters?

samus12345 ,
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Well, a waiter that brought your food a really long way. Kinda makes up the difference.

_number8_ ,

they get paid like $2/hr when actually out on a delivery, it’s pathetic and is absolutely no reason to justify the fee

iopq ,

The people who order delivery must be subsidized by the pick up customers now?

Because if you pay those wages from the price of the pizza, then everyone is paying for deliveries even if they don’t get pizza delivered.

Notice nobody said the charge is too much, they immediately didn’t want to pay anything

Cryophilia ,

Notice you said something factually wrong, got called out on it, and pivoted to a different argument.

iopq ,

What? It costs money for the delivery. That’s a fact

Cryophilia ,

They don’t get paid minimum wage.

iopq ,

They do, except they have a $5.12 tip allowance

If they don’t make $7.25 an hour the employer must pay the difference

Cryophilia ,

Most food delivery people are classified as “independent contractors” and are therefore not subject to minimum wage. This is almost certainly not consistent with federal law but multiple legal challenges have failed due to corrupt judges and captured regulators.

iopq ,

That applies to Uber Eats and similar, not to Domino’s delivery drivers who are Domino’s employees

Cryophilia ,

Most pizza franchises have offloaded delivery to apps.

iopq ,

Domino’s has not. Yet people criticize a few dollars delivery fee, despite Uber eats actually costing more (maybe not at first glance, but the prices in store and online are different which is worse)

Cryophilia ,

I’ve literally picked up and delivered pizzas from Dominos while working for doordash. I suspect it’s franchise dependent.

chunkystyles ,

I’ve always been too much of a cheapskate curmudgeon to pay for food delivery and I’ve been increasingly baffled by people who pay hundreds of dollars a month to have cold, soggy fast food delivered at an eye watering premium.

I get laziness, I really do. For me, personally, going to pick up food is the lazy option.

match ,
@match@pawb.social avatar

You tipped 20%? If that’s the case they’re calculating the tip on the taxes and delivery charge as well

taiyang ,

Reading the comments about Domino’s coupon obsession, I feel like giving an economics story about when JC Penney said nuts to sales and coupons and nearly went bankrupt.

Corpos in food and retail found that overpricing things then hitting you with deals and coupons caused American audiences to feel like they were getting a good deal. 15 buck pizza for only 6 dollars? Sounds like a deal until you realize that it’s really cheap to make thanks to suppliers and premade frozen pizzas. But if they always price it at 6 bucks, you’re gonna raise an eyebrow.

What if you don’t do that? JC Penney had that idea a few years ago, since their industry basically priced jeans for 100 bucks and then said they were 70% off almost every day. So they tried everyday low prices and… they nearly bankrupted themselves. Lots of factors, but their main factor was their usual clientele thought they weren’t getting a deal even though the prices were cheaper than competitors (while not really attracting a new audience savvy enough to know sales are a scam).

Point is, Domino’s is in a cycle of coupons or bust. It’s a shame you don’t have good pizza options at reasonable prices nearby, though, and a shame the good old days of free delivery seem behind us.

RvTV95XBeo ,

My God if I have to listen to my mother in law brag about how good of a “deal” her $10 (made up “retail”, $26) Tommy Bahama hand towels from TJ Max were one more time…

Brunbrun6766 ,
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Well, TJMaxx and Marshalls is different. Those items are mostly close out, clearance, etc brought in from other retail chains. So on most things there yes it’s some expensive brand you’re getting for a fraction. Unfortunately both those stores (Same company) have also narrowed that margin as of the last few years.

andros_rex ,

Yeah - I’ve noticed Big Lots (similar kind of store) hasn’t been that much better than Walmart or whichever store the items first came from.

Clearance sales also seem to getting worse across the board. My Walmart puts dented cans and packages with missing stuff out for maybe $1-2 off at most.

stevestevesteve ,

I hate how people mix up correlation and causation with JC Penney and it’s couponless trial. The company was ALREADY very much on a fast track to bankruptcy when it decided to try removing coupons - that’s why they tried it. It didn’t make enough of a difference to pull them out of the nosedive they were in.

It’s not that not doing coupons doesn’t work, it just didn’t save a failing business.

taiyang ,

It certainly wasn’t a thriving business, but I don’t think it’s purely a correlation isn’t causation situation. The points about clientele not adapting are probably valid, given the evidence suggests that they lost those loyalists on top of their nose dive.

And yes, it can work if you are consistent. Trader Joes is a good example, they are thriving and haven’t once did sales while virtually every other grocer does. Domino’s is set in their ways, though, although they’d probably survive if they blundered.

Cryophilia ,

Doesn’t matter, actually. Now the idea is ingrained in the MBA equivalent of a brain, it will be a generation before anyone tries again.

IMongoose ,

I feel like all food is moving to JC Penny sales tactics. In what world is a box of cereal $8 but you can get 4 of those same boxes for $9. Same with soda prices. Every other week they run these sales.

tarsisurdi ,

Wow that is outrageous. I paid the Brazilian equivalent for that amount yesterday on a 16 slice pizza with four different flavors and a white chocolate border + an 8 slice small sweet one from a local shop with delivery services and all.

No wonder these companies don’t see the financial benefit for bringing their operations to the country…

InFerNo ,

Any pizza can be a 16 slice pizza

tarsisurdi ,

That’s fair, but measuring the diameter of pizzas isn’t really something I do tbh and I don’t know the US equivalent of what we call “family sized” around here

UmeU ,

I went online to place an order for pizza recently. Jets pizza. Everything was super overpriced and so one small pizza and 6 piece wings was $50 after tax and fees, not including tip which I usually do $10. So $60 for one person. I scoffed at the price then hit ‘submit’.

I was then hit with the ‘order does not meet minimum for delivery’. They had a $40 minimum which does not include delivery fee, tax, and tip - I was at $38 something.

I almost added some dipping sauce and sent it through but I felt so violated by the $40 minimum which was actually a $60 minimum that I just gave up.

ouRKaoS ,

The Jets near me closed. I miss that Detroit style deep dish 😞

arin ,

Their minimum saved you from giving their corporate executive a hard earned bonus for enacting that policy

UmeU ,

Yup. I deliberately avoid this place now and I am getting better at planning ahead so I am not in the position where I need to rely on overpriced delivery.

boatsnhos931 ,

If you want quality, as far as corporate pizza is concerned, jet’s is your place. Otherwise little Caesars, Marcos, pizza hut, dominos is your bang for buck…I really like Papa Murphy’s when I don’t mind heating the kitchen up with the oven.

_tezz ,

Do you live in an uber-HCOL area? I ordered Jets the other day and it was not nearly this expensive… I just priced out a delivery for your order and it came to $34.07 w/ taxes and fees, less tip. Even opted for the bone-in wings.

Swuden ,

I think it’s interesting to see the US cost of living catching up to that of my country (Norway). I’ve always looked at US prices and envied them, but now I’m just like “Whey! That’s a normal price!”. Based on what I’m reading I’m guessing wages aren’t keeping up in the same manner though…

piyuv ,

lol, except the high prices in your country provide welfare and health benefits to everyone, a safety net for less privileged. High prices in US allow billionaires to buy their 4th yacht

Swuden ,

Oh yeah for sure, the situation in the US is something I dread. The fact that the cost of living in the US is near the equal to ours is mind-blowing to me when I read about their average wage level.

EatATaco ,

Wage growth has been outpacing inflation for well over a year now in the us. The issue is that there was a huge spike of inflation during the pandemic and many people have fallen far behind so there is a lot of catching up to do.

aStonedSanta ,

When does this catching up ever happen. Never seen it myself.

EatATaco ,

During the period when inflation was real hot, my wife got a 35% pay raise and I got around a 28% pay raise. We beat inflation by a long shot.

Should I recognize that my situation was the representative of the general economy? Or should I say something like “my personal situation reflects the general state of people in the economy” and then argue that wage growth was outpacing inflation?

_tezz ,

Pretty sure it’s been going on a while, but unless you’ve changed jobs in the last two years it’s unlikely you feel these effects. Employers dont give raises in line with inflation but they’re sure paying new employees a lot more than they used to.

epi.org/…/average-wages-have-surpassed-inflation-….

aStonedSanta ,

Yeah. That was my assumption.

RizzRustbolt ,

8 dollars for bread and cheese is beyond “mildly” infuriating.

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