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I ordered my daughter a pizza, something I don't usually do. I got Domino's smallest size with two toppings. I got her cheese sticks and two sauces and tipped the driver 20%. $31.07.

Note I did not buy any food for myself.

To head off questions:

  1. No, I couldn’t cook for her. I’m suffering from a long-term illness where I can’t eat solid foods and am extremely smell sensitive. My wife is at a funeral, so I had to order food.
  2. She’s extremely picky and refused to let me order anything but pizza.
  3. We live outside of town, in a not very big town, with very few pizza delivery options, and they’re all at least this expensive.
  4. No, I didn’t also have to buy her the cheesy bread or the second topping or the sauces, but it’s nice to get my daughter a treat and that is no excuse for the order being that expensive.
  5. We’re in Indiana, so this should be ludicrous in terms of pricing. This used to be the pricing I would expect when we lived in L.A. and ordered from a good local place rather than a chain.

Edit: Turns out what I should have been infuriated about is people repeatedly telling me to get takeout and having to repeatedly explain why that wasn’t an option, having people not believe I’m sick, and being repeatedly berated for not magically knowing food coupons exist on the internet when I never order food on the internet. Oh right, and also being a bad parent for not forcing food my daughter doesn’t like down her throat or starving her if she won’t eat it.

By the way, I have another thing to be infuriated about. A huge storm came in and this happened to our trees. I assume I will start being berated for not cutting them down before that happened, but because I have no power or internet at home and have to go to the library to post, your further posts telling me what an idiot I am and how I’m an awful parent and how I’m not really sick will take me a while to read. Sorry to ruin your day. Maybe you’ll find someone else to treat like shit.

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Anyway, have fun telling me I’m the worst person on Lemmy, just don’t expect a quick reply.

Oh, and do tell me how stupid I am for not knowing that people who clear up and fix such damage have coupons on their website.

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Thcdenton ,

I feel ya homie. I went from takeout everyday to diving in my freezer for whatever shit I got.

Cryophilia ,

The “I eat out every day” people amaze me. How? It’s SO EXPENSIVE! Even before the recent inflation.

Thcdenton ,

It’s a habit I learned from my dad 🤷‍♀️

padge ,

The only way to order from Dominos is to use coupons, and even them I feel like I always spent more than I intend to. I remember a handful of years ago they were putting flyers on the pizza box saying that the delivery few doesn’t count as a tip. Then what’s the delivery fee for???

el_abuelo ,

Um…delivering?

Maybe I’m missing the point as I’m not from the US (and I assume from your content that you are) - but here we pay a delivery fee which covers the cost of delivery, and a tip is an optional bonus for the delivery person if you feel like they went beyond.

padge ,

In the US, delivery drivers are paid below minimum wage, not to mention they’re usually using their own cars, so it is expected to tip them to make up the difference. The flyer was saying that the delivery fee doesn’t directly go to drivers, if it did then the tip would actually be optional.

librejoe ,

Lol you’re surprised at this? Don’t come to Canada, your eyeballs will fall out of your sockets. I would have sent her money to go buy groceries instead.

guacupado ,

Funny, considering someone else from Canada quoted at half the price of OP’s.

YarHarSuperstar ,
@YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world avatar

You fucked up by not using the coupons

Edit: sorry not trying to blame you, you wouldn’t know they do it this way, but they have extra high prices with really good coupons that are always active and can be used over and over. The best is the mix and match for $6.99.

BakerBagel ,

I’m not downloading an app just to buy a pizza. I have 10 local pizza joints in my town of 17,000 people. Stop buying from national chains.

YarHarSuperstar ,
@YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world avatar

Well duh. But if you only have a certain amount of money the big chain can be your only option, and in that case the coupons are essential.

Edit: also, there’s no reason to download the app besides slightly better tracking of the delivery. Website is still fully functional.

BakerBagel ,

It was $15 for a large (16 inch) pepperoni from a local shop last week here. The shop next door to my apartment has an $18 “King” sized that is 20inches. $21 for a 26x18 field. $6 for cheesy garlic breadNo coupons needed. Extra sauces are $1 instead of 75¢, but they are made in house so i can accept that.

Both are admittedly more expensive than the Marcos 2 doors down from me, and i am not factoring in delivery charges, but not by much and certainly cheaper than what the OP posted here. I might also be lucky because my small college town has a piza shop for nearly ever 1000 residents, so they have to really compete with each other which keeps prices down, and the national chains really struggle against the better local options.

Cryophilia ,

You don’t need the app, you can use the coupon via the web site.

vinceman ,

I paid $13.30 Canadian for a small Pepperoni pizza and cinnastix like 2 nights ago, that price seems nuts

Rentlar ,

Yeah, my local Domino’s had a banger deal this past weekend too, was $15 after tax for a 1-topping large and cinnamon sticks. (~11 USD).

EatATaco ,

You didn’t head off the question as to why you didn’t just pick it up. It looks your delivery costs were a whopping 28% of the total. If you ain’t cooking, you’ve probably got the time to drive. Or better yet walk or bike (obviously only if it’s close enough).

But that being said, I recommend always considering getting a large pie. Remember, the area grows with r^2^

So for 6 extra dollars (to get the 16 inch) you get the equivalent of 2.5 10" pizzas. And you have some leftovers. Granted this doesn’t make sense if no one else is going to eat it but her, but even going to a medium, you get almost an extra half pizza for 2 dollars. That probably would buy at least a second meal out of it for her.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

You didn’t head off the question as to why you didn’t just pick it up.

I didn’t?

I’m suffering from a long-term illness where I can’t eat solid foods and am extremely smell sensitive.

I didn’t really want to go into detail, but since you and others seem to need me to, here you go:

If I get in my car with a pizza that already makes me ill just smelling it while carrying it out of the pizza place which makes me ill by going into, I’ll be lucky if I haven’t already heaved three times. Then I have to pull over every few minutes to heave some more. Generally, drivers behind me don’t care for that and I try to be polite as a driver.

I hope this clears things up for anyone, but if you still have questions about why I didn’t put a pizza in my car anyway, I’ll do my best to explain it to you, but I would suggest starting to answer that question by sticking your fingers down your throat in short intervals.

Dashi ,

To OPs defense, i didn’t put 1 and 1 together until you spelled it out either. Wouldn’t have crossed my mind that the smell in an enclosed space would bother you.

Regardless of the rest i hope your daughter enjoyed her treat!

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

She did, thank you.

Dkarma ,

Can’t open a window or put it in the trunk or breathe thru your mouth?

This is a joke, right?

Ops is a troll

Dashi ,

I would rather not assume someone is just out to troll. I’m sure in a life-threatening circumstance, they could do any of the lines you listed.

But if they don’t have to and could just pay a little more for someone delivering it oh well. Will they pay through the nose for the convenience? Sure. Is it still a lot of money for the convenience? Yes.

Given how active flying squid is I don’t think he is just out here intentionally trolling. I could be wrong.

EatATaco ,

I didn’t?

No, you didn’t. That was your explanation as to why you couldn’t cook. I presumed one reason you got pizza was because it was a smell you could tolerate. Expecting people to understand that your reasoning for not cooking was the same reason for not driving is ridiculous.

I respect that and it makes sense. Why you had to be such a prick about it is beyond me.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Because you were like the fourth person to tell me to get takeout after I explained it in the comments multiple times.

EatATaco ,

Because you were like the fourth person to tell me to get takeout after I explained it in the comments multiple times.

My bad. I did search for “drive” and “pick” and saw nothing. But apparently I didn’t scroll down so all of the comments weren’t loaded.

Dkarma ,

Also op paid almost $8 for cheesy bread and almost a buck for each of their two sauces.

This is not “just a pizza”

Op go to Little Caesars, get a $5 pizza and stfu

Limonene ,

If you want to get a fair price at Dominos, you have to play their game. At least look through the website for special offers on pizza, because the “menu prices” are 2.5x higher than the average price a person pays. After that, if you still want a lower price, search the Internet for coupons (although that doesn’t work as well nowadays since they use account-locked rewards systems instead of coupons).

Even if you play the game, it will still be more expensive than you remember, due to massive inflation.

I don’t go to Dominos any more due to repeated bad customer service, their website malfunctioning in a lot of ways, and the last time I visited the store it smelled strongly like ammonia.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Wow. That’s some bullshit, but I’ll remember that if I have to do this again.

IHeartBadCode ,

Usually, there's a coupon that lets you get a medium 1 topping pizza and a stuffed cheese bread (+1 free dip), for $7 each item. That said, I absolutely recommend making your own pizza dough if you have the time for it. Way better tasting pizza.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I wouldn’t even be able to get near pizza dough. I can imagine the smell in my head right now and that’s enough of the thought of a food smell to disgust me.

Rozz ,

Honest question, not a real suggestion, would the smell get through one of those double filter strap face masks for painting? I just don’t know about your situation.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I haven’t tried it, but I also don’t really want to take the chance.

nokturne213 ,

I replicated the order using their coupons. It saved $2, almost $3. But it’s for a medium pizza.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

That’s definitely better, but still significantly more expensive than it was 5 years ago. Do websites have coupons you can just use before you order? I didn’t bother to look. I didn’t even know that was a thing.

kismattic ,
@kismattic@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, as a person who’s ordered dominoes more than I like you have to start a coupon before you order and it makes it significantly cheaper (specifically the $7 per item coupon previously mentioned).

Also, I highly recommend switching the pizza crust from hand tossed to pan. It’s always been a free change when I’ve done it and the pizza always comes out significantly better. If you’re optimizing it’s also more calories/dollar.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

This place doesn’t offer pan. Just regular and thin crust.

mascarasnake ,

Large one-topping pizzas are only $7.99 if you order on the Domino’s website with their coupon, which is usually located on the home page. Make sure you click “see all coupons” if prompted, because they bury some of them.

I once had a problem picking up an order I’d made online that never went through. They tried to resubmit the order themselves in-store so they could make the pizza on the spot, but the total was almost twice as much without the online coupons. I had to place my online order in the store since they couldn’t access those deals themselves.

Bonus, though, is that you can get the extra large “Brooklyn style” for only $10 (instead of $15+ regular price) by up-sizing that $7.99 large pizza for $2 more when you check out.

Source: am kinda poor in a rural area where Domino’s is about the best you can get, and buying in bulk is the cheapest way to go.

Cryophilia ,

Speaking of buying in bulk, Dominos pasta is pretty good and filling and refrigerates/reheats much better than the pizza. If you’re ever doing dominos, add a pasta on for tomorrow’s lunch.

nokturne213 , (edited )

Their “deal” pizza went from $5.99 in ~2010 to $6.99 and now $7.99. I do not remember when the changes happened exactly, but I do remember back around 2010 ordering the pizza at that price when our friend group would get together to watch Doctor Who.

The $6.99 to $7.99 increase happened in the last yearish (I checked an order email from May 2023 and it was $6.99). I only get delivery when I am at work and my wife is unable to bring dinner, but I know the delivery fee has been increasing too.

ETA: went and looked back further at order emails, in June 2022 it was $5.99. My earliest order email is from 2012, and they were $5.99 then as well. So at least 10 years at $5.99.

Edit2: the $7.99 is because of the extra toppings. Medium pizzas are still $6.99 with coupon. I was up way past my bedtime last night, thus the mistake.

Cryophilia ,

Tangent, but please stop using ETA. That acronym is already taken by something important, and saving one character over “edit” doesn’t help anything.

subignition ,
@subignition@fedia.io avatar

Yeah Domino's is one of those places that the price with a coupon, is the regular price. And the food's not terribly worth it even then IMO.

Mango ,

Yeah, Domino’s is only worth it if you do the coupon shit right. I got me and my roomie a pizza each, Parmesan bites, and cinnamon twists the other day for $20 + a fiver for the driver.

01011 , (edited )

I’m not a huge pizza person but paid $30 for a 9 inch from a pizzeria in Chicago a couple of months ago. It was tasty so I didn’t mind but it did seem quite a bit higher than the last time I had pizza.

I’d never give Domino’s that much for a pizza though, from what I recall their offerings are subpar.

state_electrician ,

The local pizza place, a restaurant, has pizza Wednesdays. Every 11" pizza for 7 Euro and you have to pick it up, so you don’t have to tip anyone. That’s the only time I order pizza.

uis ,

Inches and Euro? UK?

absentbird ,
@absentbird@lemm.ee avatar

I think the UK still uses pounds for money. Pizza is one of those weird things that is frequently measured in inches even in otherwise metric nations.

uis ,

Huh. In former land of victorious socialism(or at least in Russia, Ukraine and Belarus) common pizza sizes are 25/26, 30 and 40 centimeters.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Yup, UK never went for the Euro. Brexit foreshadowing.

state_electrician ,

No, I just felt there were more Americans in this thread and I didn’t want to upset them, so I converted 28cm into 11 inches. But I didn’t feel that converting the price would make sense, because of cost of living, so I left it in Euro.

uis ,

Ah. Makes sense. Didn’t want to scare them with units of liberté.

twxqax1eug ,

Your daughter needs a cock bro

Aceticon , (edited )

When I tip the driver in a delivery I literally just give them cash when they deliver (and only if they actually arrive with some promptness, not if they come half an hour late with a cold pizza).

It’s a habit I got into when living in the UK because there, like in the US, lots of companies just take the “tip” money and keep it if you tip whilst paying with card.

Granted, I like to pay stuff with cash, both for privacy reasons and because it has actually been shown that people in average spend less if they pay in cash (something to do with the feeling of giving something physical away), so I almost always have some cash to pay and tip.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I like the idea in theory, but ever since COVID, I’ve preferred to have deliveries left outside the door with no contact between myself and the delivery driver if possible.

It just seems more sensible in general.

Aceticon ,

Well, if you tip because you care enough about the person on the other side, you might want to try and come up with a way to leave them a tip somehow so that there is no risk it’s taken away from them, assuming that you can. Put $5 under the rug and let them know, or something.

If you can’t, you can’t, and I’m hardly going to criticize you for not wanting to catch an airborne infectious disease.

I was pretty miffed in the UK (years ago) when it came out that lots of companies (there it was mainly restaurants) were just keeping the tip money when people payed by card and filled-in a tip amount, so I very much made an effort to as much as possible make sure the actual people got the tip directly - even if I stood out from the crowd by doing it - as I don’t see the point in tipping the company.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Hm. Maybe tape an envelope to the door? Not sure. But it’s a good idea. Thanks.

solsangraal ,

i always start ordering something for delivery and then get to the checkout screen and see the price and am like LOL NOPE CANNED BEANS AGAIN

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I sure don’t blame you! If I could cook, she would be getting a cooked meal.

Kyatto ,
@Kyatto@leminal.space avatar

I wish I had your self control, cravings ruin me. But I am trying to be better lol.

solsangraal ,

it helps me to think that someone somewhere is getting paid by corporate to go through all the data from website analysis and heatmaps etc, and seeing that i added a whole bunch of shit to the cart only to nope the fuck out at the very end when they show the total

Hikermick ,

The only thing I see wrong with this is you let your daughter boss you around

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Are you a parent? If so, I’d be very surprised you never encountered a situation where your kid was stubborn about something trivial like “no, I’m not going to eat Jimmy John’s, I want pizza!” And if you punished them for it, you’re a bad parent.

Giving a kid what they want when it doesn’t matter is not letting them push you around.

BonesOfTheMoon ,

Don’t even give that troll the time of day, amigo.

Rekorse ,

I am a parent and have a toddler and a preteen, and yes you let your daughter boss you around in this instance. They won’t starve to death and you don’t need to punish them either. Its their choice to participate with the family in meal times. Its not reasonable that everyone gets exactly what they want when they want it and its wrong to give in to those types of attitudes. Kids can compromise, and its funny how the food becomes magically appetizing an hour later when their stomach is growling.

Yes parenting is hard, they are emotional terrorists, but you are implying you have no choice in the matter. I’m not saying you made a bad decision either, just blaming the kid for it is problematic.

UmeU ,

$5 is a pretty cheap tip for a delivery driver tbh

Hawk ,

It’s an insanely high tip

UmeU ,

Someone drove you some hot food and you give them $4? You’re like Steve Buscemi in reservoir dogs.

Alexstarfire ,

Because a tip is meant to be extra. Not their entire pay.

UmeU ,

I wish I lived in a country where this was the case.

They are paid a base minimum wage plus tips to drive their own vehicle around all day, paying for their gas, insurance, frequent oil changes and tire wear, putting miles on their car further depreciating the value… the whole point of being a driver is for the tips. Even when people tip well the drivers are mostly taking a loss with the usage of their own cars.

Cryophilia ,

And also when you say “minimum wage” it’s actually less than the legal minimum wage, because our regulators have been systematically gutted for decades.

Hawk ,

I pay my delivery drivers exactly 0 tips. They’re paid a living wage, no tips needed.

UmeU ,

In the USA the delivery drivers live off of the tips… it’s not just high school kids working a summer job. A lot of drivers are working a second job to support their families.

If you live in a major metro area in an apartment building, gain yourself a reputation for tipping decently and you won’t have to leave your apartment. Tip poorly and you will have to meet them down on the street.

It’s not something I voted for, this social contract existed long before I was here.

If I had a vote to abolish the tip system, I would. In the meantime I make sure to tip decently so that the person who gave me service can keep a roof over their head.

badcommandorfilename ,

NO! I don’t think you understood at all!

Someone else hired a person and paid them 3.49 to drive hot food around.

Then a customer, who also paid the first person paid the driver more than their employer did.

If I could slap you over the internet right now I would.

UmeU ,

You want to slap me because I wanted pizza and then I also wanted the person who drove the pizza to my apartment to also be able to afford pizza?

I don’t condone the system, this is simply the pizza system that exists where I live.

badcommandorfilename ,

The slap was because you were blaming the person who actually contributed more to the driver.

The correct response is: Wow! The delivery fee was only 3.49! How do they expect someone to work for such a pathetic wage!

UmeU ,

Jokes on you… the delivery fee doesn’t go to the driver. Only the tip goes to the driver. That’s how fucked up this whole situation is.

Cryophilia ,

It’s not a high tip, it’s just a very low wage. So proportionally, sure, the tip is very high, but the root issue is criminally low wages.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

It was 20%. How much should I have tipped?

UmeU ,

I’ll put it this way… for dine in tipping, 20% is fine. If you order a cheap meal by yourself at a restaurant, that $4 tip on a $20 meal is fine. The server probably didn’t have to spend more than a few minutes with you.

If you are a table of 5 with a bunch of drinks and a $200 tab, the server probably earned their 20% of $40.

For delivery, a flat rate makes more sense. If someone delivers 3 pizzas and some wings for $100, did that take much more effort than delivering 1 pizza for $20? Same number of steps taken, miles driven, gas used, time used, etc.

$8 to $10 makes sense for doorstep delivery in todays economy. $5 was fair pre-pandemic.

If you are getting a whole bunch of stuff delivered then I can see justifying a bigger tip, but probably not percentage based.

A $4 tip on delivery means the driver is taking a loss or maybe breaking even. They shouldn’t have to suffer because you had a small order.

The service you receive for delivery is not as directly correlated with the total ticket amount as much as dine in might be.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I was given four options for a tip: 10%, 15%, 20% and custom. I gave the maximum offered. Now you’re berating me for not giving more?

20% has been the tipping standard in the U.S. for decades now. For everyone who gets tipped.

So I have no idea where you’re getting this from or why you’re berating me for doing what was expected. Maybe berate everyone else who orders pizzas too and not just me since you’re one of the only ones tipping more than 20%.

UmeU ,

I’m not beating you, take it easy.

Ask some delivery drivers in any major metro / high COL area in the US.

Flat rate tipping for delivery is a lot more common than you might think; things have changed in the last 4 years.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I’m in Indiana and not in a major metropolitan area.

Which I also said in my post.

UmeU ,

While the dollar amount I suggested is particularly applicable to metro / high col areas, the concept still applies. The same expense/effort on behalf of the driver exists for a $30 delivery as with a $130 delivery.

The same cannot be said for dine in.

Flat rate for delivery, percentage based for dine in is a sensible solution which I didn’t come up with myself. More sensible of course is fair pay which negates tipping altogether but we aren’t there yet.

If small town Indiana is a particularly low cost of living area then maybe $4 is a fair tip. But where I am from, $4 doesn’t last five seconds anymore.

If it takes them 20 minutes to bring you your pizza, then go back to the shop, then at best they are making $12 per hour minus the mileage and gas and other expenses they incur driving their own vehicle… it’s a real shit job that can only be made better by decent tippers, until such a time comes that tipping is abolished (I won’t hold my breath).

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

It doesn’t take them 20 minutes to bring me my pizza because, again, I’m not in a major metropolitan area. It takes less than 10. I can get half way across town in 20 minutes.

Christ.

UmeU ,

I’m sure you’re right, those pizza delivery millionaires have us all fooled, but not you my friend.

In all seriousness… if $12/hour after expenses is a livable wage in bumfuck Indiana then that is not representative of the rest of the US.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Jesus Christ, the person got tipped $5 for driving less than 10 minutes to deliver a pizza order, again the maximum amount suggested, and you think that makes me stingy.

Maybe blame Domino’s for suggesting I “only” tip $5 on a $30 order at maximum and, like, all the other people who tip far less than that, if at all rather than tell me I’m letting pizza delivery drivers live in poverty.

Also, I would hope they were delivering more than one pizza an hour and were getting tipped by others too.

UmeU ,

Chill, I conceded that $5 might be good in bumfuck Indiana. I didn’t call you stingy. I more or less just said that $5 seemed kinda low in this economy.

I am really only pushing the merits of the flat rate for delivery and percentage for dine in. The dollar amount of that flat rate can certainly be location adjusted.

I’ve noticed a lot of coffee shops have flat dollar amount tip suggestions lately, not percentage based. Your local pizza joint should try this.

That said, in bumfuck Indiana they probably are only delivering one or two pizzas an hour on average, so maybe $5 is stingy (:

Don’t take that last part too seriously, it is intended as a comical statement.

paddirn ,

For the price, pizza always seems like the cheapest “eating out” option compared to others. Our cheapest I’ve seen is $7.99 at Little Caesars for a pizza (“large round”), along with $3.99 for breadsticks. With 3 kids, that’s one of the best deals compared with everything else around (only ~$12). It doesn’t seem universal with all pizza places though, some are worse than others.

What did your order in seems to be the stuffed cheesy bread, dips, and the delivery tip, those ate up half your costs right there, but food prices in general have gone to shit. ~$12 for a combo meal at a fast food place is pretty typical in my area and made me question my receipt a few times during the pandemic when I first started seeing them that high. I just stopped eating out at most fast food places altogether and get by on a salad, shake, and protein bites for around $6 a day.

Rekorse ,

I agree with this, they made some pretty poor choices and then explained them away by saying they had no choice. The bread was unnecessary, and yes I have kids too. A very picky toddler in fact. You never have to spend a ton on food, they brow beat you because it works, not because they won’t actually eat anything else.

Its still funny to me that kids are still tricking their parents into thinking they will starve to death if they don’t get exactly the food they ask for.

This poster wanted pizza, and had expectations of it that weren’t met, but she didn’t have to do it, it wasn’t forced. I think even your example via delivery with little ceasars would make more sense. Or just don’t buy pizza if there’s only expensive pizza near you. Pizza has always been a pricey dinner, only offset by the quantity of food just barely.

Around us, taco bell can be a great deal (and offers a vegan menu to an extent) as well but really this is more about not having enough time or know-how to reduce costs by cooking simple foods at home. A pack of taco tortillas, rice, beans, and vegetables to mix in is not expensive and makes a ton of food.

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