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Staiden ,

I still use safety razors. I get all excited when I’m at a bathroom that I can slip one in the wall.

ma11en ,

Sounds dangerous!

asyncrosaurus ,

They’re not dangerous, they’re safery razors after all

psud ,

You’re expecting to be in that wall?

Staiden ,

I’ve been using DEs for the last 6 years. I use a Feather blade in the shower with no mirror to fully shave and don’t cut myself. Not saying when I started I was that good. Feather blades are extremely sharp. I walked out pretty bloody once or twice when I started using them. Just get really good on some 7o’clocks or Gillette blades first.

reverendz ,

Safety razors are the best! They are cheap, you can buy a bunch of quality blades for pennies compared to a “Mach 3” or whatever.

Once you learn how to shave with one, there’s no going back.

UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT ,

Since I’ve started cleaning my blades I find I don’t have to change them all that often though

Rodeo ,

What’s different about shaving with one as opposed to a regular disposable?

Staiden ,

Just crazy cheap. I spent probably 5 dollars on shaving last year. That’s using the most expensive blades made.

averyminya ,

They also don’t have plastic housings which is nice from a waste perspective

Satiric_Weasel ,

They’re much less irritating to your skin. Disposable razor commercials sold the world on the idea that more blades=closer and smoother shave; when in reality they can really tear up your face and leave razor bumps and ingrown hairs.

aBundleOfFerrets ,

The head isn’t on a hinge so you have to manage the angle yourself

Rodeo ,

Do they really not make any with a swivel head? That’s a pretty useful feature imo, and certainly would be easy to design for on a safety razor.

sukhmel ,

I’d say it’s more of a learning curve question. With a swiwel you get good results most of the time but if it doesn’t work as you need there’s nothing to do. With a solid construction you need to learn to manipulate it efficiently but then it’s that you can use it for any shape of skull. TL;DR convenient ≠ better

Rodeo ,

I’ve literally never once had a swivel head razor that didn’t work.

It really seems like a stretch to make this into a skill issue lol

sukhmel ,

Yeah, I have the same leg but it doesn’t hurt

But yes, it’s better I elaborate: it’s not the razor that may or may not work. It’s the user that may not be suitable for swiwel head and such a user will be equally bad suited for all of them. It’s good if it works for you but not guaranteed to work for others

Auzy ,

Very cheap, and I find if you leave your beard too long before shaving, hair doesn’t get caught either (it can’t really)

reverendz ,

Cost! The cheap disposable blades are horrible to shave with. The good ones are crazy expensive.

Good quality safety razors are cheap! I bought a pack of blades and it’s lasted me literally years. It probably cost me $10-15 too.

sagrotan ,
@sagrotan@lemmy.world avatar

Once saw a video of someone who forged a knife from old razor blades he found in a wall. There were hundreds. They shaved more often in the old days I presume…

ramjambamalam ,

They probably shaved about the same but mostly used double-edged (100% steel) blades that could easily fit in a slot, rather than the plastic-clad, quadruple-blade nonsense sold for $8/cartridge.

You can still buy double edged razors for about 10-15 cents apiece, by the way.

MyPornViewingAccount ,

As someone who shaves daily, this is the way to go, its so much better, not just on the wallet.

milkytoast ,
@milkytoast@kbin.social avatar

not only cheaper, but better

Blankmann ,

15¢ per double edge blade is high unless you’re only buying 10 or 20 blades at a time. Get the 100 count pack and you’re paying under 7¢ per blade… Each blade should easily last 3-7 shaves depending on your hair, more if you have tough skin ;)

panda_paddle ,

I have been using at minimum a 3 bladed safety razor since I was 14. I have a feeling I would obliterate my face if I tried using straight blade.

ramjambamalam ,

I’m talking about double-edge blades that fit into a handheld razor that looks a lot like a Gilette or Bic, except it’s all metal, and about 2% of the price per blade, not a straight “safety” razor that you might see a professional barber use.

bobo ,

Nah. It takes a little more awareness while you’re shaving for sure, but you’re rarely if ever going to cut yourself once you get your gear and technique dialed in. For me, I had to find the right blade. I found Feather brand blades, which a lot of people recommend, didn’t work well with my skin, but Astra blades are great for me. Everyone’s a little different.

Tebz ,

I also like the Astra blades. Even more important ive found is a quality razor holder. I had a few, but when I got a Henson for Christmas it was the best shave I’ve ever had. Their marketing isn’t a gimmick. A well supported blade held rigid doesn’t flex and pull at hairs.

bobo ,

My Merkur 23C has served me well for 13 years. Recently the threaded screw broke off and I had to get a replacement head. But it was very reasonable. I have been curious about the Hensons, but have tended to stick with the “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” philosophy. People really seem to like them though. Do you have the light, medium, or aggressive?

Tebz ,

I have the standard AL13. I didn’t know they had different levels. My beard isn’t super thick, but not sparse either. I can shave a full weeks growth (4-6mm length) without issue. My previous razors would clog a fair bit if I did the same and I’d have to take less per stroke and rinse more frequently.

bobo ,

I couldn’t resist. I went ahead and bought that AL13 aggressive after reading and watching a bunch of reviews. It’s great. It holds the blade more firmly than the Merkur and shaves really smoothly without pulling. I would like it if it were a bit heavier, but it still feels good in my hand. Thank you for the recommendation.

JasonDJ ,

First couple of times I had to unlearn some old habits. Was a bit of a mess. But that was mostly in my scalp. My face was largely fine (to be fair, I have a beard, so it’s just cheeks and neck that gets the blade).

After my technique improved, though, I get nicked about as often as I would with a cartridge.

The hardest part was finding a blade that worked well for me. There’s a ton of variation in the blades. Once you find a brand you like though you tend to lock in. I bought a bunch of sample 5-10 blades from the most popular brands (feather, astra, gilette, tiger, etc). I ended up settling on Gilette Silver Blues. Ymmv.

LittleBorat2 ,

No the 3 blades get stuck so I went with one and got much better results.

I am back at electric razor but shaved with the 1 blades for years.

TheSanSabaSongbird ,

There’s a bit of a learning curve, but just be cautious at first and you’ll figure it out. It’s not rocket science. Also don’t use dull blades as that’s an easy way to cut yourself. Fortunately they’re dirt cheap.

SimplyATable ,

Mhm, that’s what I use. Not sure why other people around my age don’t, to be honest. Super cheap and you don’t exactly have loads of cash to spend at 20

JasonDJ ,

Dude I’m 38 and I’m surprised everybody doesn’t at any age.

I shave my head. I’ll admit I had to unlearn some habits from cartridge shaving. First couple of times my head was a bloody (literally) mess. But once I got technique down, it’s easier and faster than cartridge shaving.

What slows me down over “the modern way” is that I whip my soap with a brush and bowl. That’s a little less convenient than shaving cream/gel, but it’s optional. No reason you can’t use canned foam/gel. Holy shit is it cheaper though. I ordered a 3 pack of cheap shaving soap (3.5oz bars, $10 total) last January and I’m not even halfway into the second bar.

Best part is, less waste. No plastic. Every handle I’ve seen is all metal and even the cheap ones feel better in the hand. Stainless Steel Blades are wrapped in wax paper and packed in a little cardboard box. Soap gets shipped in cardboard boxes.

Literally no reason not to.

SoleInvictus ,
@SoleInvictus@lemmy.world avatar

You and me both. Last year, I bought enough Feather brand razor blades to last me the next couple of decades. I recall it cost less than $100.

Ardyssian ,

I just dry shave (safety razor) and it seems to work well for me. Less hassle + blades don’t rust so they last longer

I also heard that the blades can be sharpened by running it against trousers or something like that, so it is possible to reuse them / extend their lifespan

ramjambamalam ,

It’s called honing and you can hone a blade on a piece of leather, like an old belt. It’s not sharpening per se, but it keeps the little burs on the blace’s edge lined up nicely so it stays sharp and if kept up, prevents the need to sharpen with something more aggressive like a sharpening stone (or the bottom of a coffee mug in a pinch).

Barometer3689 ,

I tried it. For months and months. But I always ended up with either a bad shave, or a bloodied face. Apparently my skin is to weak for this stuff. So I am back to expensive cartridges.

banneryear1868 ,

Yeah used DE since my grandpa gave me one of his when I was like 13, his father was a barber by trade and I also have his straight razor collection (which I don’t use).

Actually use a mix of DE, disposable, and electric, depending on the purpose. The Philips oneblade and classic Andis foil for face and jawline with finishing DE touch on flat areas sometimes. I know electric on face… used to have acne too but I find they keep my skin barrier more intact by barely not getting to the skin.

I legit use the double edge on d+bs more than anything… sounds like a bad idea I know but for me it’s the easiest, quickest, far superior result, and way less injury than any other method. You maybe wouldn’t think this but going on every 3-5 days for like 10 years at this point so I’m completely confident in it. An electric with shortest attachment for pubes and around the edges, then the DE on genitals, nothing better.

modus ,

They shaved more often in the old days I presume…

People were hairier thousands of years ago.

aulin ,

Depending on how often I shave, I use 2-6 blades per month. If I stay in a hotel, I bring a fresh pack of blades, and would probably toss the blade rather than trying to wrap it back up before leaving if there was a convenient way of doing so. It’s not hygienic to keep using the same blade more than a few times anyway.

psud ,

Hygiene has you replacing blades? I replaced mine when they’re blunt. I can’t see any contamination on my blades after a week of use

Pantherina ,

I wash the razor after usage lol

aulin ,

I can’t see anything wrong either. I wash them after. It’s just what I’ve read. Don’t remember if from some shaving guide or the blade manufacturer. You can’t see bacteria.

psud ,

Yeah you need to wash your razor after shaving to remove the hair and soap, but I’m reading the above as something more than that, like removing the blade from the razor to clean it

Perhaps I’m spoilt by a modern razor, back when I used a 1960s Gillette I did have to open the blade holder to rinse it

sukhmel ,

Besides not knowing exactly how contaminated the blade got, it’s better to replace it a bit in advance before it gets blunt. But if you use the same brand you would know when that moment approaches, sure enough

psud ,

It’s highly polished smooth steel, it’s not the sort of surface that holds contamination

CurlyMoustache ,
@CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world avatar

You don’t shave every day?

rahmad ,

Beards are pretty popular these days, as is the ‘stubbley’ look.

ZeroTemp ,

Yep I’ve been rocking the stubble/light beard look for about 15 years now and it has been great.

systemglitch ,

You do?

CurlyMoustache ,
@CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world avatar

Of course. I would look like a fucking monkey if I didn’t

sukhmel ,

I would be too lazy to shave every day (and sometimes I am) but I get skin irritation if I don’t shave. Could use some strong ointments as a temporary fix but those are not good to be used too often. My dermatologist said that as long as shaving helps I’m better off shaving

systemglitch ,

I’m the opposite. If break into an itchy rash if I shave. I need to leave some stumble to enjoy life.

sukhmel ,

It seems like a presentable person was supposed to shave twice a day, in the morning and after work. Considering that you need to make three passes to shave well it would make 6 passes a day.

I tend to replace blades after about 5–10 shaves, so 15–30 passes, but I heard of people replacing after each pass. Some brands may also stay sharp for longer, giving even more spread to numbers.

All-in-all, it seems like one can expect to produce from 70 to more than 2000 disposed blades per year. At a thickness of about 0.1 mm it would be something between 7mm/year and more than 0.2 meters/year

Now I really think that even the most sensitive skin doesn’t require you to change a blade after each pass. I also find it hard to imagine producing a pile of blades a meter high in 4.5 years

Got_Bent ,

I use those blades in present day.

When I put in a new blade, I keep the wax paper wrapper, then rewrap the discarded blade in said wax paper before discarding it.

Give or take twelve years into this endeavor, I’ve had zero issues with this system.

nyctre ,

Why not just use the new wrapper for the old blade? That way you don’t need to keep the wrapper until you throw the blade away

hackris ,

What are you going to wrap the last blade in if you forget to buy new ones?

EmpathicVagrant ,

Painter’s tape.

gentooer ,

Just keep it in the razor, you can’t change it anyway.

XTL ,

Why wrap it until you’ve bought new blades? Unless you’re planning to stop shaving for years, in which case the blade might rust.

psud ,

This is where that saying “one is none” comes in. Have enough blades. Buy more well before you run out

Got_Bent ,

That’s what I do. I suppose I didn’t articulate that well.

I do it a little bit differently in keeping the very first wrapper so that when I get to the very last blade, there’s a wrapper to put it in.

Minute variations, same end results.

psud ,

If you don’t replace a blade until you have a replacement blade, why not just presume you’ll shave forever and use the wrapper from the next?

I did stop shaving for years and when I went back to shaving and replaced the old blade, and wrapped it in the replacement blade’s wrapper

EPBJ ,

The little boxes they come in usually come with a little slot to dispose of the old razors. I just put the used and unwrapped razors into that.

Got_Bent ,

I have not encountered such packaging. What brand do you use?

EPBJ ,

I usually buy Feather but I’ve seen it on plenty of other brands!

DampCanary ,
@DampCanary@lemmy.world avatar

Winkinson pack has one too.

bluewing ,

Been ‘wet shaving’ since I started shaving a very long time ago and never stopped. When the blade slots went away in the back of the medicine cabinets in every bathroom, I made a blade bank from a steel can with a lid that I cut a slot in. I takes me years to fill it.

***For those too young to have seen it. The medicine cabinet in every bathroom used to have a slot in the back of it to drop used razor blades into when they got dull. The would simply fall in between the studs in the wall and pretty much just rust away since the blade back then were made of plain high carbon steel. I remember helping to do several bathroom remodels and when pulling the cabinet and the plaster and lath wall, we would find a small pile of rusted to nearly dust razor blades.

MedicPigBabySaver ,
@MedicPigBabySaver@voxpop.social avatar

I also use a can.

DarthBueller ,

I try to remember to use the old paper, but usually I despose of them in a cardboard toilet paper roll with one end pinched shut.

bluewing ,

That’s a good idea also!

malle_yeno ,
@malle_yeno@pawb.social avatar

I thought thats what’s you’re supposed to do. Wrap the blade in the wax wrap it came in, then break it up by bending it in the wax before throwing it away in the trash (still in the wax).

DampCanary ,
@DampCanary@lemmy.world avatar

why not return it to a slot on pakaging? isn’t it there for that purpose?

front:

front view of razor package

and back

back view of razor package

penguin_knight ,

i just got these exact razors in the UK, but some blades such as Astras come in cardboard packaging

DampCanary ,
@DampCanary@lemmy.world avatar

Ooh,

yea we’re few decades behind on environmental stuff here south.

Got_Bent ,

I replied to another comment with the same question that I have never encountered this packaging. I get a cardboard box. Sometimes the blades inside are subdivided into little plastic capsules of five, sometimes they’re just stacked in the box. But that slot is entirely new to me.

DampCanary ,
@DampCanary@lemmy.world avatar

Sorry missed that one,.

My contry is just on the beggining of environmental awakening so most stuff is plastic packaging.

jodanlime ,
@jodanlime@midwest.social avatar

Those are my favorite blades

DarthBueller ,

Because the blades I get aren’t packaged this way. Is that a reusable outer package? I’ve never seen anything like that.

DampCanary ,
@DampCanary@lemmy.world avatar

Hi,

Actually these are standard, run of the mill, cheapest ones.

Wilkinson is like budget alternative to glide in safety razor category, You can usually get this packaging with this cheap plastic handle:

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51SrGoq6XRL._SL1000_.jpg

Wilkinson Sword Blades Classic

Classic Double Edge Razor Blades

psud ,

That sort of packaging is only on the blades that are more expensive than the blades the price conscious commenters have been quoting the cost of

ImADifferentBird ,
@ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I have Dorco Prime blades that come in that kind of packaging. It was $11 for a pack of 100.

Fox ,

I put all my used ones in a clear pill bottle. Plan is to burn them in the next campfire I have so that they never enter the waste stream.

SpaceNoodle ,

You’re joking, right?

Fox ,

Why would I be joking? Razor blades will oxidize into nothing in a fire

SpaceNoodle ,

That’s brilliant! We should burn all of our garbage so nothing enters the environment!

Fox ,

I’m not suggesting burning all trash, I’m suggesting burning a miniscule amount of steel to avoid the risk it poses to human and animal life. It turns into iron oxide (RUST). The fire pit ring itself will have about 100x as much of it.

SpaceNoodle ,

Sharps disposal literally exists for this reason

Steel would also office without fire

Where do you think the rust goes in either case?

Fox ,

I literally don’t have sharps disposal available to me. The rust will mix with the ash and become dispersed harmlessly into the soil. Look at an iron ore mine and you will see millions of tons of iron oxide, because that’s how iron is usually found in nature.

SpaceNoodle ,

Again, what do you think would happen if you didn’t burn it? It turns into super-steel?

Fox ,

If I didn’t burn it? If I wrapped it in wax paper and threw it in the garbage? Maybe it cuts through the bag and injures someone handling it. Maybe an animal gets into the trash the and dies after getting cut by it. Turns into super steel? What the fuck are you even saying? It would take a razor blade many months to rust away if left completely exposed, and again I’m trying very specifically to avoid doing that because the blades are dangerous. I’m having trouble fathoming how you could be this dense.

SpaceNoodle ,

You’re already putting them in a pill bottle …

jubilationtcornpone ,

Safety razors are great! They’re way cheaper than “conventional” (3, 4, 5 blade) razor blades. They shave a lot closer, and you can get a variety of different grades of blades to fit your comfort level.

The only reason the expensive multi-blade disposable razor cartridge became popular was because Gillette enshitified their razors to maximize profit.

Got_Bent ,

I have really enjoyed the experience and cannot imagine going back to disposables that get guarded more securely than fort Knox and require a credit application to purchase.

I do not, however, generally go about the general population proselytizing about it. Those people annoy me.

It’s simply a solid shave for an affordable price.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I have this (I am sure irrational) fear that if I use a safety razor, I will cut the shit out of myself. Which, I realize, goes against the word ‘safety’ in the name.

jubilationtcornpone ,

You do have to be a little more delicate because it is easier to cut yourself but it doesn’t take long to get a feel for it. I doubt I cut myself any more than I did with a 4 blade cartridge.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I’ll have to try to get over my fear and try it. How does it do when you haven’t shaved in a few days? Because I’m very lazy about that.

jubilationtcornpone ,

That’s one area where safety razors are the clear winner. Multi-blade cartridges tend to get “clogged” by long hair. Safety razors don’t.

I probably shave once a week unless I have someplace to be. I can make a full pass, flip it over and make another with no problem. The hair just rinses right out.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Nice. Thanks!

DarthBueller ,

If you use an electric beard trimmer to cut the long stubble down first it works better. Any razor does, but especially safety razors, since there’s only one cutting blade per side and when it’s clogged with longer hairs must be fully cleaned out for a perfect shave.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

That generally is what I do, but there are still a lot of long hairs that the trimmer doesn’t catch.

Naz ,

It takes a few weeks for your face to get used to being shaved by a safety razor but once it is, my god.

It’s like the MSPaint Erase Tool in real life. I used to do electric razor only going over and over and over

Now it’s like almost pornographic how easy it is to shave – one swipe down, two, three, four… half the face is hairless.

Four swipes left, left side is hairless.

Four swipes under the moustache and bam.

Highly recommended getting over the beginner’s curve, watch some YouTube videos but here’s a Linux primer on how to do it:

  1. Fill shaving cream bowl or basin with warm (not hot water).
  2. Allow horsehair brush to soak in basin for 1-5 minutes.
  3. Shake excess water off the brush
  4. Add about half a toothpaste brush amount of shaving cream to the basin, stir into a rich lather, consistency of yogurt. If it’s foaming up/running there’s too much water. I recommend PRORASO, Menthol (Refresh). One $10 tube lasts 3-6 months. Extremely cost effective.
  5. Run some warm/hot water on a very low pour from sink. This is used to wash hair off your razor between passes.
  6. Sterilize your safety razor with a 55-75% isopropyl alcohol spray. This is optional but prevents any kind of infections, because these razors basically slice open everything including pimples.
  7. Lather up your face. Sides, bottom, moustache, whatever.
  8. Don’t apply excess/heavy pressure, these razors are extremely sharp. Go down in a stripe, flip razor over, do another stripe. Down cuts hair, holding at a mild angle, across (left right) cuts your skin, so never try to slide the razor across your face.
  9. Go slow, practice, once your face is used to it, it becomes second nature and shaving is 10× more pleasurable and convenient than those disposable razors or whatever.
  10. It’s good enough that I recommend it to other people. I’m a man, few things make me actually feel like a man more than a good/proper shave.
Ensign_Crab ,

Much better than a multi-blade cartridge in that regard. It doesn’t get clogged with hair.

reverendz ,

You have to shave lighter. Once you get used to it, they work incredibly well.

With a 3-5 mini razor Mach something, you can push pretty hard before you cut yourself.

Safety razors it’s much lighter touch but it still shaves very close. I bought one of these 10 years ago and it’s still going strong. Safety razors are cheap to buy and once you get used to it, works just as well if not better.

aulin ,

You’ll cut yourself in the beginning, but once you get the angle and pressure right it’s quick and easy.

DarthBueller ,

As someone whose grandfather was a carpenter for Gillette in Massachusetts from after WWII until a few years before his death, I’ve got to say that while i use safety razors because of the price, I do get a far superior shave in less time with the “fuck everything it, we’re doing five blades” (basically the 3+ blades modern razors). I just don’t like having to take out a second mortgage for refills.

robotdna ,

Could it be that the blade + razor aggressiveness combo you were using is not equivalent to a cartridge razor? Personally with a nice blade and 1960s Gillette Slim Adjustable on the higher settings it gets insanely close even going with the grain, much closer than I’ve gotten with plastic cartridge options.

bufordt ,
@bufordt@sh.itjust.works avatar

Get yourself a blade bank and put your used blades in it. They are a cheap and safe way to dispose of your razor blades.

derpgon ,

Does the bank give me interest? Otherwise I am not interested.

bufordt ,
@bufordt@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yeah, but they do sometimes take a cut off the top.

captain_aggravated ,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

The little plastic magazine my DE blades come in have a little slot in the back for used blades, just slide them in and then when the magazine is empty chuck the whole thing. Wrankles me a little bit that the steel is ending up in a landfill, but most things you put in the recycle bin does too because society doesn’t work, so.

Ensign_Crab ,

On the other hand, it’s not 6 blades at a time, the handle, and the little slimy strip thing.

aulin ,

I just put mine in an empty tin. It’ll take forever to fill it up, and once you do, just tape it up and put it in metal recycling.

SolNine ,

Multiple homes I’ve lived in have had these slots in the medicine cabinets lol.

Did they anticipate people not living long enough to care? Or that some biome would form to use the blades as food?

Interesting decisions all around.

tja ,
@tja@sh.itjust.works avatar

They are very slim. You would really need to shave a lot to see it being full.

Anticorp ,

But when that happens, who’s going to want to remove a wall full of used razor blades?

sukhmel , (edited )

It likely doesn’t go in the whole wall, more like in a small container friction fit between tiles. That way you can empty it once it’s full (not too soon, admittedly)

Edit: there was a comment here about two feet of blades, so I was wrong, it does go into the wall and it is a ‘fuck the future me’ kind of thing 😅

cosmicrookie ,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

I use these blades to shave almost daily. I use approximately 40 each year. I would never be able to fill up a wall with these, not even during 10 lifetimes

SolNine ,

It’s not so much about filling it up, but when someone goes to eventually renovate the place lol. Open the drywall and just have a bunch of blades to clean up… Or if you get a leak and have to now deal with a puddle of rusty blades.

I want to say that possibly one of the medicine cabinets had a smaller container that collected them at some point, but again, it was still fixed behind the wall lol.

Gladaed ,

Prevents them from being mixes in with general garbage and people cutting themselves when handling such.

SolNine ,

Makes sense!

Agent641 ,

Where do they go? To the Oubliette.

xX_fnord_Xx ,

What’s an Oubliette?

ToxicWaste ,

French, oublier: “to forget” or “to loose”. Also a medieval torture device. Look it up at your own risk.

Agent641 ,

Its like a solitary confinement torture dungeon, but worse. Its a narrow pit below the dungeon where they toss people who are condemned to death. Too narrow to sit or lie down, even if your legs got broken when or before you were thrown in. All sorts of shit piss gore and blood get tossed in too. Probably other harmful junk like live rats and broken glass. There is no return, and they dont clear out the previous tenant or remnants thereof before the next one is moved in.

xX_fnord_Xx ,

That explains a number of things. I thought it was fancy landlord talk for French Style Studio Apartment.

No wonder my rent was so below market rate.

Rai ,

Ask Hoggle. Labyrinth’s full of ‘em.

20inmyhead ,

Remodeling contractors hate this one trick…

JasonDJ ,

How bad could it be? They’d all be piled up at the bottom of one stud cavity and you know they’re there. If you’re demoing the wall you’re gonna have gloves and a shop vac and a bigass broom and shovel anyway.

Still I got a little blade bank (about the size of those mini soda cans) on Amazon for $7 for my double-edge blades. Last year. And it still has plenty of room in it. Supposedly it holds 300 blades. That’s two blades a week for nearly 3 years. An absurd frequency…I replace my blade every week and I shave my head and they could totally go longer, they’re just so damn cheap.

LittleBorat2 ,

I think these plastic boxes the blades come in often have a slot for used blades on the bottom. They take up so little space without the paper around them that an entire pack fits into a 1mm slot maybe.

lapislazuli , (edited )

Wet shaving is still very much a thing; in fact in the last decade or so, it’s had a renaissance of sorts (tho it was probably re-gaining popularity already in the early 00’s). I’ve been a wet shaver for 2.5 years but decided to buy me an electric shaver because these days I have less time for wet shaving. It can done be quickly but what’s the point if you’ve got to rush it. Links for those who got curious:

www.badgerandblade.com/forum/

www.badgerandblade.com/forum/media/

sharpologist.com

!wetshaving

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Darkscryber ,

How do you know someone is wet shaving? They will tell you about it. Like eating vegan, doing crossFit and barefoot running.

barsoap ,

It can done be quickly but what’s the point if you’ve got to rush it

Yep a good shave needs time and most of all four passes: first with the grain, that’s for the colleagues, second two at right angles to the grain, that’s for your lover, and the fourth one against the grain, for personal satisfaction.

OTOH if you know what you’re doing a quick and dirty shave is just as good as an electric one and you don’t have to deal with batteries. If a short buzz cut is all you want do that.

The whole setup is a bit of a bother if you’re new but basic guidelines:

  1. Shower. Well you don’t 100% need to but dry skin and shaving don’t mix well so do it before.
  2. A whisk and bowl, a cheap synthetic whisk is just fine the natural hair ones are a bugger to deal with anyway (have to take care to dry them properly etc), 5-10 bucks for the whisk, 25ct for the bowl in the euro store they came in a 4-pack, really tiny stainless ones. The rest I use for mise en place.
  3. Shaving cream/soap. Don’t think you’ll get away with using those self-foaming gels in a can they clog the razor, don’t glide well, and I’ve never come across one that’s nice to the skin. Comes in bar or tube form, some are better at gliding some smell better if you’re lucky you get both, I’d put the palmolive shaving cream on #1 as “what to get when you don’t know what you want”: Glides very well, dirt cheap, forgiving when whisking, like a bit over a buck a tube.
  4. The actual foam: This is going to take some trial+error, you want extra water in it but don’t make it a soup, you want fine bubbles and proper shaving cream/soap will make them have standing power (though if you’re in a pinch you can use regular soap, no biggie). It should be nice and sloppy, with two 'c’s. If in doubt, whisk more. Apply, then let soak, make coffee or something. Oh, some people don’t use a bowl to whisk but do it directly on the skin. IMO they’re madmen, it’s like brewing tea in your mouth, but you do you.
  5. The razor. Lots could be said about geometry, about different comb sizes, ultra-fancy blade change mechanisms, long story short buy a Merkur 23C, 30-40 bucks, chrome-plated zinc and brass. Good weight, excellent general-purpose geometry, inexpensive, literally unchanged for a hundred years. You might be tempted to cheap out and get a Wilkinson they sell cheap plastic holders that take standard razor blades but trust me the only reason why they’re selling them is to make people believe standard razor blades suck.
  6. The blades. Feather is the creme de la creme and might be just a bit too sharp for some, and also comparatively pricey. Russian manufacturers generally are good but given the situation let’s boycott them, many western producers have spotty quality, that leaves BIC. Yes, the guys who also make lighters, ballpoint pens and surfboards. Bonus: Carton/wax paper packaging, if you re-wrap used blades and put them back in the carton you can toss them in the bin, no worries. How long a blade lasts depends on many factors, the biggest of which is your personal preference. But even if you buy feather blades and use a new one every day you’ll still end up spending less money than using a cartridge system.
  7. Shaving: See the very top. Be aware of the grain, flip the razor over to wear the blades evenly, occasionally rinse it in the sink, you’ll figure it out. Avoid being silly: Don’t move the thing sideways over the skin that’s how you cut yourself. The geometry of the razor will tell you the right angle, just let it lead. Always make sure there’s good gliding going on, never tolerate resistance. Make funny faces to get skin into places where it’s easier to shave, make it taught, etc. It’s an ancient, secret art, traditionally transmitted from father to son, with a break in tradition you’ll have to rediscover it for yourself.
  8. Cold (not ice cold) rinse. A very good way to wake up.
  9. Aftershave, a deeply personal matter. Generally speaking you want an astringent to stop any bleeding (also micro bleeds you can’t see) and a disinfectant and something nice for the skin, my personal recipe is first alumina alum, rinse, then a bog-standard random face wash from the discounter, says aloe vera. The alum will burn worse than an aftershave with alcohol could ever burn but once you rinse it’s over and I don’t want to sit there with a slightly burning face for half the morning. As said: Deeply personal matter. Use whisky if you want I don’t care.
Randomgal ,

That sounds like shaving with extra steps.

barsoap ,

You’re completely right, I described shaving with the extra steps of figuring out what to buy and why to buy it as well as showering and making coffee. I even briefly touched on cooking.

hydrospanner ,

Right?

The cherry on top is that this whole ritual is to save someone the hassle of “having to deal with batteries”. The horror!

I’m not doubting that it’s a more rewarding experience, but it always cracks me up when proponents of an obviously more laborious process in anything also feel the need to act like it’s easier too.

It’s like baking your own bread, making your own pickles, building your own wooden furniture, or making any number of dishes “from scratch”. Sure it’s probably better in the end, but that’s after buying a bunch of stuff, going through a significantly longer and more tricky process, and often after making mistakes and building an entire new skill set.

For most people, all it will become is a lesson in why they preferred the original path of convenience in the first place.

barsoap ,

The cherry on top is that this whole ritual is to save someone the hassle of “having to deal with batteries”. The horror!

You missed the “a quick and dirty [wet] shave is just as good as an electric one” part, didn’t you. In both cases I’m partly scratchy by noon and fully scratchy come evening. A good wet shave will be about as good in the evening as a quick or electric one is once I get to work.

For most people, all it will become is a lesson in why they preferred the original path of convenience in the first place.

If the convenient path gives you a result you’re happy with then take it. There’s a reason I put “personal satisfaction” as a step after “for your lover”.

I don’t even shave that often. But when I do, I do it properly. I also don’t make Ragout Bolognese that often but when I do, I do it properly. If that offends you then I can’t help you, either.

NewAgeOldPerson ,

A rare sighting of a gentleman in the wild!

Personally, I will start this when I retire. Right now, I do go to a straight razor shave once a month. Just because it’s nice. Personal care.

hydrospanner ,

You missed the “a quick and dirty [wet] shave is just as good as an electric one” part, didn’t you.

I didn’t miss it, I just didn’t feel it was worth it to point out how obviously wrong it was.

Sure they might give equivalent results, but one is significantly faster, easier, and less hassle than the other.

I’ve done both kinds of shave and there’s no arguing that a wet shave gives the superior results…but pretending that it’s not a lot more fuss and effort is just ridiculous.

Rai ,

I’m here to defend pickles!

We use a quick-pickle recipe, we can make six to eight big jars in under two hours. Even using mediocre cucumbers, they’re WAYYYY better than anything you can buy in stores. You get jars of slices, spears, little pickles if ya want… Pickle diversity! Way less money, too.

The rest of the things you’ve listed I agree with.

hydrospanner ,

Once more, with feeling…

I’m not saying it’s not more rewarding, better quality, etc.

But it’s not easier than just buying a damn jar of pickles when you’re at the store.

I make them and buy them, I garden my own cucumbers specifically to make them. I’ve made quick ones, slow ones, garlic ones, spicy ones…it’s not hard…

…but I’m not going to pretend it’s faster or easier than buying a jar from the fucking supermarket.

Because it’s not.

Rai ,

Jeez dude

All of the other things require so much more effort and time for similar results.

Pickles take not much time and effort and are insanely better and less expensive than picking up a jar at the store.

I never claimed it’s faster or easier, I’m just saying it doesn’t take anywhere near as much time or effort to make infinitely better pickles than to make bread, shave using a safety razor, MAKING FURNITURE?! etc.

I don’t know why you’re so defensive, it’s just… I love good pickles, and they’re easy to make. It’s not in the same world as the other stuff ya listed.

tigeruppercut ,

Yes! I’ve been growing some hot peppers recently and throwing some of those in with the pickles is amazing if you’re into spice.

xohshoo ,

I use Merkur shaver with Cremo cream. Here’s my process:

turn faucet on until hot water running. Wet face. Apply cream. Shave. Rinse and dry

It literally isn’t different from shaving with a cartridge except a better shave, more pleasant, and cheaper. OK, it probably takes 10 seconds extra to change the blade vs popping cartridge, but that’s it

I shaved with an electric for a couple years, bad shaves and bad skin

tigeruppercut ,

I mentioned this elsewhere but unless you have sensitive skin you should be able to use a safety razor pretty much like a 3 or 5 blade, ie without a ton of prep. Pretty much wet your face, apply cream (although I haven’t tried it with the cheap foam stuff bc I stopped using those awhile ago), and go to town.

If you want to make it a whole thing it will probably get you a super close shave in the end, but if your goal is just to shave before work it should work fine in the same amount of time as the multi-blades. I’ve never had much luck with an electric-- I’ve got pretty thick hair and electrics inevitably pull at some of my hairs instead of cutting (I’ve never tried a high end electric though), so discovering safety razors was great for me.

lapislazuli ,

Thanks for sharing the instructions with folks here. As I said above, I’ve been a traditional wet shaver for two and a half years, so I pretty much know all this. However, wet shaving takes a lot of time for me and for various physical reasons and limitations, I cannot spend a long time shaving. I’ve learned how to speed up the process, but this means sloppier technique and it shows on my skin. At this point I want to give my skin a break by having a short stubble rather than going for BBS (that stands for BaBy Smooth) every single time. 😄 I don’t mean to scare people away from traditional wet shaving, I’m just speaking for myself, who happens to have some motor function problems etc. If you’re fairly “normal”, there should be no reason not to try traditional wet shaving. It’s a treat and something to look forward to every single time.

MargotRobbie ,

I thought people use those plastic blade disposal container that has a slot on top that you throw away once it gets full nowadays.

It’s not built into the wall, but the base principle still hasn’t changed even after all these times.

bobo ,

I got a can of chicken broth, knocked a slot into the top with a flathead screwdriver and a hammer, poured out the stock and rinsed and dried the can. It lives in the cabinet beneath my sink and I drop my blades in it when I’m done with them. That was about 10 years ago. The thing is maybe a third full.

Mycatiskai ,

My dad’s workplace had something similar in the 1960s-70s. It was a plane hangar that was used by the baggage handlers.

The walls were cinder block so hollow from top to bottom, they would open up the boxes of the mini alcohol bottles that would go on the planes and take handfuls of them out, once the bottles were empty they would dump them down the same hole until they actually filled one up then started on a new one.

That would have been a surprise when that hangar got demolished and that wall opened up.

tocopherol ,
@tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

If they aren’t going to recycle which rarely happens even today that is probably just as good of a solution as landfilling them, those little bottles are littered all over the earth. When they demolish a building they would trash all that debris anyway, but yeah a hilarious find, hundreds of them lol.

Mycatiskai ,

Probably more like thousands. The building was high enough to fit a passenger plane. So the space in one cinder block hole would 6 in x 6 in by 60 ft high. That is a lot of mini bottles.

RubberElectrons ,
@RubberElectrons@lemmy.world avatar

But how would you get the bottles into the top without a cherry picker? Imagine drinking a bunch of those small bottles, then hiding the evidence by carefully maneuvering a lift?? This whole story smells fishy…

Got_Bent ,

You underestimate how much people drank on the job back in the day and what their resulting tolerance was.

I was a kid during the tail end of that being acceptable, and I just thought all adults drank all day every day.

Mycatiskai ,

Remember that cargo was loaded onto planes with platform lifts and maintenance work would use scissor lifts. I don’t doubt that if wouldn’t be wise to empty the bottles into the wall while drunk but I’m sure they were sober eventually.

RubberElectrons ,
@RubberElectrons@lemmy.world avatar

But do those lifts actually go that high? That’s just such a crazy thought haha

Clubbing4198 ,

R/definitelyputyourdickinthat

Kecessa ,

Safety razors with disposable blades were introduced about 120 years ago, at one blade a day that’s a bit less than 45000 blades

Double edged blades dimensions are: 0.1mm x 42.7mm x 22mm for 98.21mm³

45 000 blades would take a volume of 4 419 450mm³ or about 270in³

A regular indoor wall is made of 2x4 and each stud is 14.5 inches apart (16 inches on center). A 2x4 is in truth 1.5" x 3.5" so each inch of height inside the wall is 3.5 x 14.5 x 1 which is 50.75in³

45 000 blades stacked perfectly would therefore use 270 / 50.75 = 5.32 inches of the wall’s height… So even if they didn’t stack perfectly, it’s pretty safe to assume that there’s enough space inside the wall for hundreds of years at one blade a day (especially since old houses usually used true 2x4 and had their studs at 24" on center)

prowess2956 ,

Also, most people use blades for more than one day's shave. I think more like 3 - 7, depending on the blade and how picky the shaver (I get more than seven shaves per blade).

lightnsfw ,

Same. I’ve gone 6 weeks on one blade if I was working from home a lot and didn’t have to shave often.

Kecessa ,

Yep, just trying to show how there’s no way someone fills that wall in their lifetime

redcalcium ,

One blade a day?!! Are you a billionaire or something? The acceptable signal to replace the razor is when the pain from the dull blade pulling your hairs makes your eye watery, and then you try to man up for a couple more shaves before accepting defeat and put in a fresh blade.

Kecessa ,

It’s an exaggeration to show how long it would take to fill a wall

ook_the_librarian ,
@ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world avatar

The acceptable signal to replace the razor is when the pain from the dull blade pulling your hairs makes your eye watery

Sounds like a blade a day to me.

Ook

AngryCommieKender ,

Orangutans aren’t supposed to shave.

Ukuli ,

Those old school blades are cheap as chips though.

elrik ,

0.1mm seems awfully thin for a double edged blade.

It’s also unreasonable to assume they will stack anywhere close to perfectly.

My guess is you’re off by at least a factor of 20.

Hagdos ,

While true, 1 blade a day for 120 years is also off by a factor of 20 in the other direction.

Kecessa ,

Number came from Feather

I already covered the “don’t stack perfectly” thing, but the vast majority would still fall flat.

Amaltheamannen ,

Assuming they would use the volume perfectly is a pretty big assumption, it’s likely you wouldn’t even get a tenth of that.

Kecessa ,

They would fall flat for the most part and I already addressed that in my message but thanks for telling me, you’re just the third one I think.

boatsnhos931 ,

R/dontputyourdickinthat

OceanSoap ,

Curious as to why this fell out of fashion?

IHeartBadCode ,
@IHeartBadCode@kbin.social avatar

The used razor blades were arming the rats who were also in the wall.

tquid ,

Yeah that’s some bad mojo

Hupf ,

狗娘养的 - Reavers!

SlopppyEngineer ,

Probably because the metal razor blades fell out of fashion first. This setup doesn’t work with throwaway razors and mach 3 pro extra plus whatever systems.

tigeruppercut ,

I recently got into shaving with a safety razor and I don’t know why I ever bought expensive 3 or 5 blade heads from gilette or whatever. Despite what some enthusiast shaving communities might make it out to be it’s really no more difficult using the single blades and it’s way way cheaper.

Son_of_dad ,

I tried it a couple of times and my face got torn up something awful. I switched back to the Gillette multi blades, but now I take care of them and dry them well. I have sensitive face skin but thick beard hair and it didn’t like single razors.

tigeruppercut ,

Ah that’s too bad. I have thick hair as well but I guess my skin isn’t too sensitive. It also seems like it’s a sharper shave than the multiblades, but maybe that’s because I didn’t use to change them enough bc they were so expensive. At least it’s easier to get hair out of it when it’s just one blade.

I used a single blade disposable once in a pinch a long time ago and I guess wasn’t careful enough and cut pretty deeply into my cheek.

redcalcium ,

Gillette knew stacking more and more blades would bring out some primal urge in men. They saw their pals rocking 3 blade heads and knew they must get the 5 blade version to one up them.

tigeruppercut ,

I think I remember a (SNL?) sketch from back when 2 blades were the norm and maybe there were some 3 blades starting to come out with an ad for like a 17 blade product.

meyotch ,

The third blade prevents the hair from snapping back and injuring you.

al177 ,

Maybe it’s this classic from The Onion?

tigeruppercut ,

Oh yeah, thats the one for sure. The Onion predicting the future again!

General_Effort ,

A blade tugs at the hairs before cutting them off. That pulls them out of the skin a tiny bit. The first blade pulls them out, the second grips them before they retract, and cuts them off lower. It makes a noticeable difference. The third blade makes a very tiny difference. After that, it’s marketing. (Should I look up studies to cite?)

In my experience, electric gives the cleanest shave. In the long run it’s cheaper, too.

lyam23 ,

In my experience I get a much better shave with a DE than a disposable razor. It’s also much cheaper and reduces waste significantly. Cartridge razors are a scam.

tigeruppercut ,

I’ve never had an electric that feels good–maybe bc I have really thick hairs it always has some places that get yanked instead of cut. Cost wise I guess electric’s pretty cheap in the long run but you can get single razor blades for about 10 cents so it’s also pretty cheap

fin ,

so it’s the graveyard of razorblades?

razorgraves?

boogetyboo ,
@boogetyboo@aussie.zone avatar

Tomb razor.

dan1101 ,

Yeah we had a 1920s house with a metal medicine cabinet above the sink. It had the razor blade slot and yeah they literally fell into the wall between the studs.

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