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GrappleHat , in Steam Hardware survey for January 2024
@GrappleHat@lemmy.ml avatar

Why is Linux total at 1.95%, but the most popular distros don’t add up to nearly 1.95%? Is it SteamOS making up the difference?

Wilzax ,

Yes. The steam deck is massively popular

victorz ,

I’m appalled that they don’t attribute Steam Decks as Arch Linux, btw. Appalled btw.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

That’s like saying you’re appalled that Linux Mint isn’t attributed to Ubuntu or Debian (depending on the spin).

victorz ,

Probably. Just making a joke. 🙂

thomas ,

There are many windows machines that never run any game (corporate issued work laptop for example). What this says is that Linux machines are more likely to be personal machines in which you can play games.

victorz ,

What this says is that Linux machines are more likely to be personal machines in which you can play games.

What this says is that among gamers using Steam, Linux is at 1.9%, that’s all. Maybe I’m misinterpreting what you said but I don’t see how you draw your conclusion.

YaBoyMax ,

I don’t know about you, but my work laptop is most definitely not participating in the Steam hardware survey and I’d probably be in trouble if it did.

A_Random_Idiot ,

tons of other distros arent listed at all that probably add up to it, like Nobara.

xkforce , (edited )

Linux mint is 0.07%… are you telling me that over 95% of the linux installs are other distros?

A_Random_Idiot ,

As far as people using steam on linux, who participated in the steam hardware survey?

Presumably, since the percentages for the displayed 4 Distros don’t add up to the total usage. Which means there are two conclusions. survey results are bugged, or they are only displaying the top 4 distros only, and all the other distros (like me on Nobara) don’t make some arbitrary cuttoff for listing. Which makes since, since Manjaro and Linux are at the bottom of the display with only .07%.

Oha , in Vulkan Video Finally Introduces AV1 Video Decoding Extension

That Logo goes hard af

BiggestBulb , in PSA: Bluetooth vulnerability and PS3 Controllers on Linux in 2024
@BiggestBulb@kbin.run avatar

Thank you for the heads up! The DS3 will always hold a very fond place in my heart - countless hours on Littlebigplanet 2, Battlefield Bad Company 2, Battlefield 3 and Gran Turismo 6 were had on those awesome controllers.

dis_honestfamiliar , in PSA: Bluetooth vulnerability and PS3 Controllers on Linux in 2024

It seems that you are vulnerable during pairing which is for like a minute. What am I missing?

jntesteves OP ,
@jntesteves@lemmy.world avatar

you are vulnerable during pairing which is for like a minute.

I said this twice on the PSA: it’s hard to tell if your device is in discoverable mode, and it’s easy to forget it in that state, or start it accidentally. I’ve caught my devices accidentally in discoverable mode many times. You could have your PC a whole week in discoverable mode and never notice it, just by having a settings window left open.

It’s more risk than most people should take, hence the warning.

Still, if you’re comfortable with the risk, you’re free to change the config and allow insecure devices.

CameronDev ,

Given the attacker needs to be within close proximity, it doesnt feel like a very concerning risk for most people. The attacker would need to dedicate time to physically come to your location and deliberately target you?

Maybe for laptops in public places, but a desktop at home is probably fine unless you have very motivated enemies?

Edwardo_Elric ,

Given the attacker needs to be within close proximity, it doesnt feel like a very concerning risk for most people. The attacker would need to dedicate time to physically come to your location and deliberately target you?

Well, no. The biggest issue is automation. There are already people abusing Bluetooth's nearby devices functionality that makes iPhones and Androids unusable on a subway for example.

gerryflap , in PSA: Bluetooth vulnerability and PS3 Controllers on Linux in 2024
@gerryflap@feddit.nl avatar

Damn. I cannot play Rocket League without my DS3. Somehow any other controller feels horrible in that game. Luckily I’m used to wired and don’t play RL too often anyway, but it’s still confronting to see something like that reach EOL (sort of).

UnaSolaEstrellaLibre , in Orange Pi Neo is new handheld powered by AMD and comes preinstalled with Manjaro

…Why Manjaro?

maniacalmanicmania ,
@maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone avatar

Lower everyone’s expectations so that when it performs better than expected it can be racked up as a win?

TheGrandNagus ,

Manjaro has been bizarrely good at getting hardware partners on board. Pine64 (think pinephone, pinetab, SBCs), MinisForum, Slimbook, Tuxedo, etc.

If only they were properly run in other areas.

jaemo ,

It’s literally the distro that stopped my distro hopping. Manjaro’s freaking fantastic.

MentalEdge ,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

For me it was my gateway to Endeavour, I had Manjaro set up in a way that satisfied my every need and want.

But having to timeshift my system back into a bootable state after a borked update wave every few months was bad enough to kick me out of my complacency, and go looking for something else.

jaemo ,

That’s relatable pain. So far I’ve had a stable 5ish years, and only had 2 issues, one being my own tomfoolery with some KDE config, the other being Nvidia, and I don’t gotta tell you kids about Nvidia and Linux, regardless of distro…

ETA: endeavour looks really slick too, thx for broadening my world. Probably need to justify a wipe of a laptop to try that out.

Namstel ,

Honest question: why not?

noodlejetski ,
RealFknNito ,
@RealFknNito@lemmy.world avatar

Letting their SSL certificates expire that many times is definitely a no-go for me

noodlejetski ,

just set your clock back!

DumbAceDragon ,
@DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works avatar

Because Garuda exists.

drwankingstein ,

Manjaro constantly winds up having really weird issues, they hold packages back in order to make it more stable, but it honestly just broke things far more often then upstream arch did for me. Manjaro and it’s community is also riddled with really weird issues. It was pointed out to me a while ago that manjaro did some updates that broke grub customizer, and when people were trying to figure out what broke and how to fix it, Manjaro instead not only removed grub customizer, but made it conflict with the grub they had so people working on trying to fix it got a shovel full of go fuckyourself in the face

comrade19 , in Orange Pi Neo is new handheld powered by AMD and comes preinstalled with Manjaro

Similar numbers to the z1 extreme but on lighter software. It could be a good balance. I remember travelling through Europe with a gaming laptop and an Android tablet. The efficiency of that tablet had me using it for games and browsing so much more. Anyway, this could be gaming performance and clos to Android/arm efficiency (vs the windows handhelds)

vividspecter , in Orange Pi Neo is new handheld powered by AMD and comes preinstalled with Manjaro

Finally a competitor that has Linux and uses trackpads.

IWantToFuckSpez ,

Too bad they didn’t use a layout similar as the Steam deck. It’s the best layout for a handheld with trackpads. These trackpads are really far down.

deepfriedchril ,

Even the steam deck’s touch pads could be moved up more imo however, these look to be pretty much unusable.

Jode ,

And the joysticks are Xbox style and not ps style. If that makes sense.

TheGrandNagus ,

I wouldn’t call the Deck’s sticks PS style, because PS has them on the bottom. Wii U style?

Jode ,

I mean like, in line with each other instead of thumbs tick left and abxy right

TheYang , in Orange Pi Neo is new handheld powered by AMD and comes preinstalled with Manjaro
@TheYang@lemmy.world avatar

Did I miss the cost?

PlasterAnalyst ,

They never say it on these articles and videos. They'll say it's cheap and then the price will be $1000

tjhart85 ,
@tjhart85@kbin.social avatar

Right‽ The brand new Steam Deck Killer! Better in every way, except it costs 3x as much and weighs more because it's got a giant battery (or conversely the battery life sucks).

Like, no shit you can make something more powerful, finding the happy medium of performance to battery life and then making it cost effective AND actually portable are the most difficult parts of what Steam did and those are the things the competitors just seem to completely ignore.

somegadgetguy ,

And for how expensive portable consoles can be, I’m not calling anything a “steam deck killer” until I’m also confident it can be repaired and upgraded for years after I buy it.

jeze3D , in Orange Pi Neo is new handheld powered by AMD and comes preinstalled with Manjaro
@jeze3D@lemmy.ml avatar

Manjaro… yeaaaah…well just make sure to stay away from the AUR.

Scio ,
@Scio@kbin.social avatar

I'm sure it'll get a Bazzite port within weeks.

quarterlife ,

Funny enough we just finished our website yesterday lmao

Scio ,
@Scio@kbin.social avatar

Great! Bazzite.gg will point to it soon then? It still redirected to the GitHub for me.

Edit: cached result! The new site loaded on my phone! Very swish :)

cyberpunk007 ,

Why?

drwankingstein ,

one of two things, or maybe both, manjaro has a really weird issue with the AUR where they repeatedly pushed updates to pamac that have crippled the AUR.

there are also often times where AUR packages inexplicably break on manjaro so using the AUR while running is is fairly sketchy

cyberpunk007 ,

I think I understand your latter point. I had no time to invest in another arch build last time I did a reinstall. This was before arch had a gui install. So I went Manjaro. I’ve noticed this problem where sometimes I install direct from aur and it messes stuff with pamac. Now that there’s a gui install for arch I’ll just go back to that next time.

Wild_Mastic , in Orange Pi Neo is new handheld powered by AMD and comes preinstalled with Manjaro

I’m glad steam deck propelled a new wave of handheld consoles that actually has decent specs

Jode ,

Yeah hopefully we can get something decent in the 300 dollar range. I haven’t looked too much into these but they all seem to be 6-800.

HeyJoe ,

I even saw an article yesterday indicating Sony is developing something as well. 2 years away, but still, I never thought they were going to try again after the psp and Vita failure (failure is subjective, I still love my psp). I fully believe the success of the steam deck has revived there interest in it as well.

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot ,

Is this something new? 'Cause they had that remote-play screen for the PS5 a while back that seemed to come and go without anyone noticing.

cryptiod137 ,

There’s the Playstation Portal, which only streams games from a PS5, and does a worse job than a Steam Deck… Which probably explains why so few people care.

HeyJoe ,

Not referring to the portal, I still have no idea why it exists. This is a recent leak of a new handheld.

insider-gaming.com/sony-new-playstation-handheld-…

hersh ,

Because it’s not the same class of device. The PS Portal is very niche. It’s a $200 device that basically just runs the PS Remote Play app.

I’ve used PS Remote Play on my phone and laptop, and it’s just not good in the cases I actually want to use it: when traveling away from home. Even with a good Internet connection it’s only “okay”. It’s utterly useless when in transit (trains, places, etc.), and 99% useless in any public place (e.g. cafe or library WiFi).

These are all cases where the Switch, Deck, and similar devices excel. The PS Portal addresses a much smaller market.

HeyJoe ,

Not referring to the portal, I still have no idea why it exists. This is a recent leak of a new handheld.

insider-gaming.com/sony-new-playstation-handheld-…

HeyJoe ,

Yes, it’s just a leak, but I hope it’s true.

insider-gaming.com/sony-new-playstation-handheld-…

AtariDump ,

Soon, Only Not Yet.

Scio , in Orange Pi Neo is new handheld powered by AMD and comes preinstalled with Manjaro
@Scio@kbin.social avatar

I want this to be a thing so much...

But I cannot overlook the fact that this "website" is composed entirely of images and none of the text is properly aligned.

reddthat ,
@reddthat@reddthat.com avatar

It’s properly aligned with the joysticks

😢

sunred ,
@sunred@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

One could think they forgot about a product page and needed someone to quickly cobble together something. The truly funny thing is that they include fonts and a heavy css framework for three images that don’t use any of that.

helenslunch , in Orange Pi Neo is new handheld powered by AMD and comes preinstalled with Manjaro
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Sooo it doesn’t run on an Orange Pi SBC? Well that’s confusing…

entropicdrift ,
@entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I mean, Orange Pi never made the SoCs to begin with, so it could well be they’re designing the SBC and just using an AMD laptop chip for this one

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Now that you mention it, that is the same logo as the SBC manufacturer. I though Orange Pi was just the name of the SBC but it appears to be both. Still confusing, given the clear reference in the company name, but I digress.

Still think Manjaro is a dumb choice.

entropicdrift , (edited )
@entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

You and me both. Could’ve gone with ChimeraOS or HoloISO or even just Arch and it would’ve been better.

loutr ,
@loutr@sh.itjust.works avatar

Arch requires a keyboard though.

Ultragramps ,
@Ultragramps@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

The OS for Steam Deck and Manjaro are both forks of Arch, last I checked, no?

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Yes SteamOS is a heavily modified fork of Arch. But the important thing really is the Gamescope compositor and controller-first operation.

73ms ,
@73ms@infosec.exchange avatar

Going with doesn't seem like it would make much sense to me. As far as I understand it is something like an unauthorized derivative of so you'd be putting yourself at Valve's whims without Valve okaying it and no voice at all in the development process.

I like getting the dev team of an open distro involved, I guess might have been better if they fit that description as well though.

@entropicdrift @helenslunch @linux_gaming

entropicdrift ,
@entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

ChimeraOS is basically a totally hardware-agnostic version of SteamOS, though instead of forking SteamOS it’s more like a re-implementation of it from an Arch base.

DrQuickbeam ,

I too am confused

SplashJackson , in Orange Pi Neo is new handheld powered by AMD and comes preinstalled with Manjaro

Why Mandingo and not SteamOS?

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe it’s not a pure gaming device. Orange Pi usually makes SBC’s like rpi. Manjaro is a pretty good OS for gaming.

aodhsishaj ,

That is a VERY Freudian slip

Grass ,

The auto correct just prefers words you use a lot on that keyboard

Urist ,
@Urist@lemmy.ml avatar

Computer-assisted Freudian slip then.

JoeKrogan , in Orange Pi Neo is new handheld powered by AMD and comes preinstalled with Manjaro
@JoeKrogan@lemmy.world avatar

I welcome more linux based handhelds to the space but I’ll stick with the steam deck myself. At least I know that will be supported for a long time.

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