I ask because Lutris was killing my network too and it took me like two weeks to figure out the root cause. For me, this is what was happening. I had Dead Space Remake installed. Lutris used the name of the game to identify it, but was incorrect. Then it would try to download assets for the game but apparently they changed the URL path. But when Lutris failed to get them, instead of giving up, it HAMMERED my DNS with requests, triggering pihole to engage its flood controls and kick me off DNS for 5 min.
If you use pihole, watch your query log live and see what is happening.
I am using pihole. I will take a look and see if that is happening and report back.
How did you end up fixing the issue?
EDIT: Checked in on it and this is indeed the issue. Heroic is generating thousands of requests and I assume phile is flood controlling it. Two questions:
How can I confirm pihole is flood controlling it? Found a message confirming the rate limiting under Tools -> Pi-hole diagnosis
First I disabled the flood control just to make sure I could get it working. I’m not sure about Heroic, but Lutris has an online database for games and I looked up Dead Space and found the correct game ID to set it to. Once it was on the right ID, it found the assets it needed and was done in under a second.
No problem, glad I was able to recognize the symptoms so quickly. It was incredibly frustrating too! Oh, one more thing to do is launch Heroic from terminal so you can see the output. That’s how I knew which game was causing it.
Yep and it seems to line up with the rise of the Steam Deck and all the discussion around how viable gaming on Linux is these days. I think there were/are a LOT of people that only stick with Windows due to gaming. Hopefully as gaming support continues to improve on Linux more of those people will make the switch.
I don’t even think much when running games anymore. Even DRM-free games I get from Gog I can just click on and run with Wine most of the time. It’s so awesome.
I only have a handful of games I cant play, and thats due entirely to their shitty choice of DRM… and thats not a big detriment cause that obscene DRM would have kept me away on Windows, anyway.
Same here. The games with rootkit and invasive spyware anti-cheat don’t work, but I avoided those games like the plague on windows already so this just makes it easier for me to avoid. That shit doesn’t work anyway, it just makes people not automatically jump to accusing people of cheating when they get owned…
Yeah, but I prefer running it without a launcher. It’s just cool to me I can easily run the games via clickng on the exe or searching it in a runner with very little hastle.
One game that’s really inconsistent about running on Wine is Roblox, which iirc won’t run at all anymore due to the new anti-cheat which deliberately prevents running with Wine.
Got a new M.2 drive and installed Linux on it, still run windows on my old disk (no dual boot, only go to bios when I need windows).
Experience has been amazing so far, biggest issues for me are the following
Had to get used to Gimp instead of my very legally acquired version of Photoshop
Discord screen share does not have audio and is laggy as hell (an alternative discord-screenshare application exists but gives my voice a 1-2 second delay which upsets my gf when we’re in voice, although it can stream entire desktop with audio which is amazing for watching shows together)
Some games with anti-cheat don’t work, so if I want to play those I still have to jump on windows.
No HDR (but it looks to be coming to KDE and Cosmic soon)
Apart from this the experience has been amazing. I’m using Nobara and mostly gaming. As a dev terminal, scripts and ssh to my raspberry pi:s is just such a seamless and nice experience.
Had your same exact issue, and after jumping through hand-made solutions and countless clients i finally found a client that works perfectly out of the box for screen sharing with audio, has no other issues and comes with the big plus of having customization plugins Vesktop (i think its on flathub too so if your distro ships that probably get it from there).
Had the same issue here too and yes, while my “main” game got recently proton verified and i could finally get totally rid of windows, there are some few (BattleEye mostly) games with no anticheat support.
I would recommend using Vesktop instead of the official client - it’s faster, has better privacy, and best of all, screensharing including audio works like a charm.
You could run your games thru gamescope - and as a bonus, you can use features like FSR for better quality or performance.
But seriously, Sunshine is a bit of a pain to setup and it’s historically been a bit more buggy on Linux hosts. Hopefully it continues to improve and the rough edges get ironed out. Although personally I just went the long HDMI + USB cable route, and I’m happy with that.
I undervolted my RX 6700XT using Corectrl. While the tool is good overall, it makes no sense for Gamescope-SteamOS-like setup with Bazzite, so I did something absolutely disgusting and run it in the background using xvfb. Now looks like I can replace it with something far more suited to my needs. Can’t wait to test it
Is this able to maintain its profiles between reboots? I use amd-clocks as its low profile set and forget unlike corectrl which would need to launch its ui each boot and ask for polkit auth
Yes, it maintains its config across reboots, it uses a systemd daemon that handles the backend. On most distros it should just work automatically, but if not you can edit the config.yaml file to set up your permissions there.
It’s great software. I’ll have to try editing the permissions because on Tumbleweed it only works when run as root. It complains that the service isn’t running as a user.
Also, I noticed that series 7000 gpus have serious problems under the most recent stable kerne when using an egpu setup. LACT shows that they cannot draw enough wattage, so they never get up to speed. Older gpus work fine.
Will probably get flamed to death for this, but… a few months ago I’ve decided to try Ubuntu on an older Intel MacBook Pro, just to try it out after many attempts in the past. (Mac user here)
Then I tried to use the trackpad. After 30 minutes of fiddling I gave up. Say what you want about Apple’s UX choices, esthetics and business practices. But boy do they know how to produce a computer and UX combo that fits like a glove.
In comparison, the Ubuntu experience was like eating nails.
And before y’all go off; I would like to switch. I’m getting tired of Apple’s business practices.
After years of using linux distros and settling on an arch based distro for my daily use, I switched jobs and they allowed me to have “linux” as my laptop OS.
They put Ubuntu 22.04 LTS on the laptop. Admittedly I hadn’t used it for a few years, maybe 18.04 outside of server use cases maybe.
The experience is horrible. It throws errors about Ubuntu, about Visual Studio Code or any program every hour, without those programs having any trouble whatsoever to function.
It reminds me so much of Windows, and even though I prefer it over that system, I can’t shake the feeling I’m serving the OS, rather than the other way around, just like in Windows.
And don’t even get me started on Snaps over DEB packages. Had never tried them before and I can say with confidence the hatred is deserved. Code didn’t even start up in the snap version and Firefox was so slow and laggy I was thinking the laptop was broken somehow.
No flaming here, but your first mistake was trying Ububtu - it’s not the best in terms of hardware compatibility, and they (Canonical) often make controversial software/development decisions, which makes it one of the most hated distributions in the Linux community.
Your second mistake was trying it on a Mac. Now don’t get me wrong, many people do run Linux on a Mac, but it’s not quite plug-and-play (compared to PC), and not everything may work as intended. Since you’re new to Linux, I wouldn’t recommend your first experience of it to be on a Mac. And to be clear, this isn’t Linux’s fault - since Apple (or whichever chipset maker) doesn’t provide Linux with any official drivers/code, the devs have to figure stuff out themselves by reverse-engineering stuff, and as expected not everything may work.
If you’ve only got Macs around and you don’t have the patience to troubleshoot Linux issues / read manuals etc, then the easiest way to try it out is in a virtual machine like Parallels or VirtualBox. The performance might not be the best, but at least everything should work out-of-the-box. As for the distro, since you’re a Mac user, you’d probably feel more at home with elementary OS. Other options you could try include Pop!_OS, and Zorin (the Pro edition even has a macOS-like layout).
Once you’ve tried Linux in a VM and decide you’d like to use it full-time, the best way to experience it is on native Linux-first hardware - basically PCs which come with Linux out-of-the-box, such as those made by System76, Slimbook, Star Labs, Tuxedo etc.
Yeah, I have a similar experience. I used a bunch of operating systems in my years. From C64 GEOS over Atari TOS Amiga OS, DOS, Windows (pretty much all of them since 3.1, except Vista and 8), Android, MacOS and iOS to Linux (several distros)
I don’t know why, but MacOS and iOS are for me just the worst user experiences. I feel completly trapped and helpless when using either one. Guess they are just not for me.
I used to greatly prefer MacOS until I switched my desktop from Windows to Linux and got comfortable there troubleshooting and installing things. Now I feel exactly the same as you with MacOS. Trapped.
Same. I hate the unintuitive keyboard shortcuts, the nonsensical drag and drop everything UI, and their ridiculously over complicated development system.
In case nobody has mentioned Asahi Linux yet, I’ll bring it up. I haven’t used it, but I have a friend who does.
Asahi Linux is a project and community with the goal of porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs, starting with the 2020 M1 Mac Mini, MacBook Air, and MacBook Pro.
Our goal is not just to make Linux run on these machines but to polish it to the point where it can be used as a daily OS. Doing this requires a tremendous amount of work, as Apple Silicon is an entirely undocumented platform.
Asahi Linux is developed by a thriving community of free and open source software developers.
I believe they have a Fedora-based distro that should be solid for daily use, but again I haven’t used this myself.
That makes sense. I’ve done both team green and red on linux now, Ubuntu and PopOS. My personal thoughts:
NVidia for compute, hands down, it wins. Any AI or compute, you can’t compare. But the drivers are worse and a pain to install, and conflicting versions left and right and it’s just hell. PopOS saved me by having all of that set up for me.
AMD GPU drivers are still not great if you’re running a non “official” distro, but I eventually got it to work. AMD definitely feels more “stable” over NVidia. Way less fiddling with Steam and games too, most seem to “just work” compared to fiddling with env variables with NVidia.
Pros and cons. Personally, I’m leaning Team Red right now. They’re really bringing it. I don’t see any reason to spend more on an nvidia card unless you are doing massive compute loads.
I have an nvidia GPU and tried popOS and Nobara and I cannot get games to run at all. Keeps crashing or going to a black screen and the game never actually launches. Definitely going to be going team red next round to get off windows finally
I did and same with nobara, tried twice with pop and once with nobara and gave up a few weeks ago. Couldnt get platinum protondb games to run at all or would run at like 14fps on a 3080
Really? I’m having a very dissimilar experience, and am also on Manjaro. Drivers were a peach to install and I get at least as good as performance on windows…to the extent that the dual boot has (over the years) become just a single boot. I’m even running a valve index on it - Alyx runs smooth. Built in 2019.
TBH I’m surprised at a lot of these threads about Nvidia as it’s just been a few times that the drivers didn’t work out on an update and I had a black screen. But I’ve had almost as many breaking issues from non Nvidia related stuff in its lifetime.
What’s your build like? I have an i5 6600k and a GTX 1660. I have two displays one connected to the 1660 and the other to the iGPU, so I might have been accidentally using the latter. Wayland seems to not work even on my other PC with a single GPU (3060 ti) tho.
Honestly, it’s possible that I just don’t notice low framerate as I’m a product of the Atari/NES gen of console gamers; my standards may be co-opted. I’m just reporting that my experience has been positive. Fair to say though that Wayland is still hit and miss, and still is. I general avoid it and stick to x while using steam, and tinker around with it when X’s idiosyncracies bother me enough. Nvidia in general just hasn’t picked my berries like it seems to have for others. Certainly not enough to ever make me retreat to a windows install 😁
They have a few distros hardcoded in their amdgpu install script. I had to go add pop into a line with debian|ubuntu|pop like that so it wouldn’t kick me out of the script.
I had the nvidia flavor of pop first, and had to purge everything nvidia. Afterwards all I can say is that I got a black screen of doom after purging them. All that repaired it was installing amdgpu… so… idk. Halfway to just reinstalling it after that ordeal, I’m pretty sure X is confused upside down and sideways
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