Nice. So I just need to update the mesa version whenever it arrives, and it should be faster now? Also, are there any disadvantages to using amdvlk instead of mesa?
Yeah I'm a grey-beard, my first experience was Slackware in the nineties. I've been using Linux since but usually on servers and in VMs only. Recently I've been able to go 100% thanks to Proton. I really enjoy the progress made with tech such as systemd, wayland, btrfs, proton and flatpak. Though a lot of grey-beards are very resentful of these I feel they represent real positive progress. There's also support for kb backlight and other features of my laptop.
I'm also really enjoying PRIME rendering on my laptop, using Intel and Nvidia at the same time for different things. It works beautifully/seamlessly and even more so that I can just type "yay" and get a new Nvidia driver or a matching driver if there's a kernel update without having to do any babysitting manually.
I do everything on Linux now, Office work, Rustdev and I play games like BG3/Guildwars2 simply by launching them from Steam.
The only pain is that I have to configure each application manually to use Wayland, that's a bother.
I’m 100% Linux on a 5950x and a 5700xt. I’ve had pretty much no trouble at all. The GPU works out of the box, and with the exception of enabling Proton for non-verified games, I’ve only ever had to click install and play. To be fair though, I only play single-player/non-competitive games, so I don’t worry about anticheat at all.
These days Windows games give me less grief on Linux than they ever did on Windows.
I’ve run an rx580 and am currently running a 7900xtx. I have very few issues. Every once in a while a few games will break when I update Mesa, but I’m on a rolling release distro, so that’d probably happen less often on something like Ubuntu. Honestly I probably have fewer issues on Linux than I did on windows.
I’m team red on Linux all the way. Ryzen 5 2600 (soon upgraded) + 6750XT. Mesa works out of the box and hasn’t broken yet. The only thing that caught me off-guard is having to manually enable VKD3D for newer DX12 games – I recommend using a launcher like Heroic (very easy, Steam-like front-end for several stores) or Lutris (universal, exposes more advanced options) to manage your games. You should also look at ProtonDB for compatibility and tweaking tips, and Lutris install scripts in case a game needs a specific framework to be installed.
There are still a lot of games that expect some XWindows stuff. I’ve run into it, but not too frequently.
Generally, the fix is setting an environment variable that tells a library backend to expect Wayland - something they could do in code with minimal effort. It kinda makes me wonder if there’s some common ‘port your game to steam/Linux!’ tutorial that they’re following.
I’ve seen this argument pop up but I’m confused with technical details on how it would work. Wouldn’t the client still need to download the game? Modifying the game files is a vector for attack. If it’s fully online on their servers then it would be pretty slow wouldn’t it?
The client is nothing but a display. All it downloads is vid and all it up loads is control. The only actual issue is potential for lag. ag is solvable by designing with it in mind.
Think about things like stadia. If they are viable so is actually running the game on the server. This way all the activity is server side and everything coming from the client is validated.
The actual issue is that the game servers and networking would be more expensive. And that is the real reason they do it with DRM, it is cheaper for them. Your experience is not important to them.
The lag issue is really one of design and cheap server side infrastructure. A shooter would use a time stamp to allow position validation for when the shot was fired. Simply reduce the micro management and you've resolved most of it to start with.
It is only slow if the infrastructure is crap. And you are complaining about the current state and not what would happen. Very, very few games have been released over the past decade with LAN play and the no online required is only a bit more. You objections are very hollow.
And which company is currently about to release that for the first time? See this is about DRM on games and none of the companies are paying to put that on antiques. I can still roll my Mechwarrior Mercenaries 2 server as well, but that also isn't relevant to this thread.
I’m a Linux virgin and I’m working to install my first distro ever this week. Ngl, it’s daunting. I’m not tech illiterate but damn it’s so hard to know where to even start
EDIT: got lots of replies while I was trying to save my WSL2 files from before I upgraded windows (unsuccessfully) but I’ve been eyeing nobara and will give it a try tomorrow or friday, thx for all the replies
EDIT2: hoping to learn how to dual-boot with separate drives before actually installing
OpenSUSE Tumbleweed has worked well on my laptop running lighter games. I’ve not tried anything on my main PC yet because I’m honestly worried about compatibility* but OPs’ post gave me hope.
I fired up Horizon Zero Dawn by clicking play. Which is wild compared to back when I tried to understand wine for Word back on 12.04. Super slick! Ubuntu 23.04 with Steam flatpak.
Someone responded that you should install a gaming centric distro for your first rodeo. We’re all entitled to an opinion, but I couldn’t disagree more.
Linux Mint. It’s a breeze to install, and it’ll help you learn without being too intense until you’re ready to graduate to EndeavourOS or vanilla arch. Mint is the perfect place to get your sea legs.
Keep good backups of anything you care about, so you can let yourself make mistakes and learn in the command line. Wipe and reinstall is a viable option when you break shit, and once you’ve done it a few times you’ll get good at configuring your system back to where you had it before you broke it. Takes me like 20 minutes.
I had issues at one point, but it was right after a major version release, and they were fixed not long after. Mint is my number one recommendation to anyone getting started. If I ever get tired of a rolling release, it’s likely what I’ll go back to.
+1 to everything you said. Another funny thing I noticed: I looked at my steam catalog on a family member’s Macbook. Many of the games aren’t available on Mac, plus they dropped 32 bit executable support.
I never thought that only ~15 years later (from when I first tried Linux) we would start booting into linux from a mainstream OS for gaming. How the times have changed.
Yup. I occasionally play games on macOS because that’s what I use for work, but I have to be careful because most games don’t work at all, and some run like utter crap. My main PC runs Linux and I can run pretty much everything in my library.
They can, with the Game Porting Toolkit. I’ve played Starfield and CP2077 on my Mac. Performance wasn’t great but it was playable. I expect that to improve as the tech matures.
People are saying this? Well I’m running it on Pop!_OS 3440x1440 with a Ryzen 5600 and 6900XT at at least 60fps. Unsure at the FSR or scaling level though, but it’s not bothering me. And my perception of performance and quality is what actually matters.
The fact that you have the best AMD GPU but are still not able to run it at native 1440p says a lot. You are running it at 75% of 1440p and than have it upscaled using FSR. It runs alright I would say but I don’t think the performance really matches the visuals. It’s clearly not well optimized.
I keep seeing this comment and I think people are confused about private companies.
Private company is one that’s not publicly listed (traded on an exchange). Private companies still have shareholders, they may still have board of directors with shareholders representatives sitting in them. And these shareholders can still demand returns on their investment. There’s a whole industry around this called private equity.
Now it doesn’t look like Gabe Newell ever took Private Equity funding and according to the internet he owns 50% of the Valve shares but that still means that a large pile of shares is owned by other people who get some say in the company’s direction.
So saying that Valve makes this or that decision because they are private is wrong. Most companies are private and you don’t see them being all charitable and investing in open source.
You could argue that Valve is allowed to make certain decisions more freely because he’s a co-founder who still owns the majority stake though. And the company being private means that unless he sells his shares he gets to retain that control.
Recently switched myself. I keep giggling like a coked-up chipmunk every time I download something on Steam and it just fucking works. No to minor fucking about.
Yeah I switched this weekend and haven’t had any real issues so far. Haven’t booted my windows since. I’ll probably just copy some game files to the Linux formatted Disk beforehand and then wipe it. Screw windows
I switched to Linux in 2008, and basically stopped gaming on PC entirely. I had Xbox, PlayStation, and Nintendo consoles to fill the gaming urge for me. Then in 2018, when Proton came out, I finally started gaming on PC again. So, I feel you!
I switched in 2007, and until Proton came out I enjoyed 11 years of the finest Linux games, like OpenArena, Tux Racer, Oolite, Battle for Wesnoth, OpenTTD, and…that’s about it.
Lots of browsing Synaptic’s “games” category and reading package descriptions like “…is an engine that can be used to…”, “…game files can be created in…” and “…aimed at providing in the future…”
Same here, I also have a Deck so if something’s still flaky on linux I have my deck attached to my TV and can play most anything there. Also enjoy desktop mode on steam via the TV as well.
Not sure about the latest version, but it definitely works with Proton, google an anime game launcher (it’s likely against the TOS as there’s no kernel-side anti-cheat and telemetry gets disabled but so far no one got banned).
Wow sorry, that’s good to know. I didn’t know the launcher could also be used with Honkai. I’ve been playing Genshin Impact for close to two months with that launcher and I haven’t been banned yet, it could be that Honkai’s checks are stricter?
Were you playing it by the time it launched? Back when Star Rail launched, it was quite tricky because they still were working on it, but nowadays it is going smooth and there haven't had any ban reports in check logs 5 months
I haven't really tested StarRail, but Genshin has been working flawless for months. Went from brand new account to finishing Inazuma questline and now getting into Fontaine with 0 issues(aside from one time where DXVK messed me up, but that's due to my graphics card being a ancient relic XP)
Also, tip, don't enable the FPS Unlocker. It says it makes you get detected by the anti-cheat, but I never faced this, but it seems to lag the game out? Like, with it enabled, I can't even get near Dragonspire
Even if it works (which it does), it’s dangerous to play any MHY game on Linux, as you almost definitely will get banned. There’s a project I was using to play Honkai that supposedly disabled telemetry, but I still got a week-long ban. I currently play in a Windows VM by passing an extra GPU through, but that’s not foolproof either and is also technically ban-worthy.
To add to this, I’m also reporting that since a Genshin Patch in June or July (3.8?), genshin launcher and the game just work without any issues. Installed through Lutris, using the normal launcher installation (so not the one that did the patches).
I went 100% Linux gaming since last November (Steam Deck and Desktop).
To this day I only ran into minor annoyances like a small keyboard issue with FFXIV (fixed using a checkbox in XIVLauncher), some gamepad issues (DO NOT buy the 8bitdo Ultimate if you want to use it on Linux, it is a nightmare. But the 8bitdo Pro 2 works flawlessly). And only two game that wouldn’t work : Gog.com Necrobarista (due to a coding error that freezes the game until achievement is displayed. Steam version runs fine), and Fortnite (not a huge loss, but I like to disconnect my neurones from time to time).
Other than that and the lack of first party support for gaming peripherals, everything is great. And my Pihole log isn’t flooded by MS anymore.
Try installing GOG Galaxy with Wine (Lutris can do it for you easy) and run Necrobarista from Galaxy, this should take care of displaying the achievement.
Yeah I’ve had issues with one of my controllers so far. It’s a third party Xbox controller. It’s recognizing all the joysticks wrong. I’ll probably find a workaround someday. I just haven’t got around to it yet.
In my case it is just not recognized at all. It tells it is an Xbox controller, but gives the wrong IDs, resulting in it not being taken into account by xpad. Last time I managed to make it work I had to build a customly patched xpad, but for some reason it doesn’t work anymore…
I also struggled with getting my 8bitdo Ultimate controller to work on Linux. My solution ended being to use a Mayflash controller adapter to trick my PC into thinking it was just a normal Xinput controller, while the adapter itself thought it was a Switch Pro Controller. I’ve since become a huge fan of these little adapters, as they basically make any controller compatible with any platform, including Linux, so that’s one less annoying compatibility issue to deal with.
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