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sleepmode , in First time using Steam+Proton in Linux. HOLY SHIT!

I used to help friends get their nvidia cards’ 3D drivers working with various distros around that time period. Most would have given up on it entirely if not for that. It’s so nice how much easier it is now. Now the hassle is usually anti-cheat… I’m hoping the pressure from the Steamdeck taking off in popularity counteracts that.

Molecular0079 , (edited ) in STARFIELD NOW WORKING WITH NVIDIA BETA DRIVERS!!

Are you able to get Wayland working? I tried it and I kept getting kwin_wayland_drm: Atomic modeset commit failed! Cannot allocate memory messages in journalctl.

EDIT: You have to pass in fbdev=1 to the nvidia_drm module. This will disable simpledrm which was causing the issue. I now have this in my modprobe.d:


<span style="color:#323232;">options nvidia_drm modeset=1 fbdev=1
</span>
luthis OP ,

Have not tried Wayland, last I checked there were issues with Nvidia so I haven’t switched from X yet

axby , in First time using Steam+Proton in Linux. HOLY SHIT!

+1 to everything you said. Another funny thing I noticed: I looked at my steam catalog on a family member’s Macbook. Many of the games aren’t available on Mac, plus they dropped 32 bit executable support.

I never thought that only ~15 years later (from when I first tried Linux) we would start booting into linux from a mainstream OS for gaming. How the times have changed.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Yup. I occasionally play games on macOS because that’s what I use for work, but I have to be careful because most games don’t work at all, and some run like utter crap. My main PC runs Linux and I can run pretty much everything in my library.

9715698 ,

I’m glad that at least BG3 works on Mac - nice to have at least one clutch game for a long flight or business trip.

cyborganism OP ,

Can you imagine if Mac computers could run the same catalog of games than on PC?

c10l ,

They can, with the Game Porting Toolkit. I’ve played Starfield and CP2077 on my Mac. Performance wasn’t great but it was playable. I expect that to improve as the tech matures.

warmaster , in What makes Debian so different from its derivatives that gaming on it is almost an heroic task to achieve?

You need the Nvidia proprietary drivers

mmababes , in First time using Steam+Proton in Linux. HOLY SHIT!

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  • cyborganism OP ,

    Are you kidding? The whole internet runs on FOSS! Companies love it because it saves them on licensing fees. FOSS is never going away.

    ahriboy , in First time using Steam+Proton in Linux. HOLY SHIT!
    @ahriboy@kbin.social avatar

    Is Genshin compatible with latest Proton GE?

    AlmightySnoo ,
    @AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world avatar

    Not sure about the latest version, but it definitely works with Proton, google an anime game launcher (it’s likely against the TOS as there’s no kernel-side anti-cheat and telemetry gets disabled but so far no one got banned).

    frozen ,
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    I’ve gotten banned using the same project for Honkai, so it’s not foolproof, unfortunately.

    AlmightySnoo ,
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    Wow sorry, that’s good to know. I didn’t know the launcher could also be used with Honkai. I’ve been playing Genshin Impact for close to two months with that launcher and I haven’t been banned yet, it could be that Honkai’s checks are stricter?

    akatsukilevi ,
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    Were you playing it by the time it launched? Back when Star Rail launched, it was quite tricky because they still were working on it, but nowadays it is going smooth and there haven't had any ban reports in check logs 5 months

    frozen ,
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    That’s actually a good point. I got banned in May, but the Discord shows no ban reports since June, so that’s definitely promising.

    akatsukilevi ,
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    I haven't really tested StarRail, but Genshin has been working flawless for months. Went from brand new account to finishing Inazuma questline and now getting into Fontaine with 0 issues(aside from one time where DXVK messed me up, but that's due to my graphics card being a ancient relic XP)
    Also, tip, don't enable the FPS Unlocker. It says it makes you get detected by the anti-cheat, but I never faced this, but it seems to lag the game out? Like, with it enabled, I can't even get near Dragonspire

    frozen ,
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    Even if it works (which it does), it’s dangerous to play any MHY game on Linux, as you almost definitely will get banned. There’s a project I was using to play Honkai that supposedly disabled telemetry, but I still got a week-long ban. I currently play in a Windows VM by passing an extra GPU through, but that’s not foolproof either and is also technically ban-worthy.

    cyborganism OP ,

    I don’t know. I don’t play Genshin. Have you tried it?

    LittleBobbyTables ,

    Not sure about Proton-GE but I’ve been playing the game through Lutris for a while now and it works fine.

    aruser ,

    To add to this, I’m also reporting that since a Genshin Patch in June or July (3.8?), genshin launcher and the game just work without any issues. Installed through Lutris, using the normal launcher installation (so not the one that did the patches).

    jeremy_sylvis , in First time using Steam+Proton in Linux. HOLY SHIT!
    @jeremy_sylvis@midwest.social avatar

    We went from a time where you had to rebuild your fucking kernel to get your graphics card to work and fucking around with Wine to get to a point where you nearly throw your PC out the window until you can get a little app to run to simply running apt install nvidia-driver-xxx and clicking on a button to make a Windows game run in Linux.

    I have fond memories of getting World of Warcraft working on Linux back in ~2008 only to realize it had an OpenGL mode that ran better than the DirectX mode I was trying - and failing - to get working.

    You aren’t wrong about kernel and driver shenanigans.

    cyborganism OP ,

    When you got it to work though… Man it felt like such an accomplishment.

    Norgur ,

    I only recently got an update from a mailing list thread I had submitted something to about WINE not using dual cores in WoW.... That threw me right back

    GustavoM , in First time using Steam+Proton in Linux. HOLY SHIT!
    @GustavoM@lemmy.world avatar

    I remember the first time I managed to run Doom outside of the usual “point-and-click mentality” on ZorinOS. It felt like I went back to the DOS era where I had to do the good ol’ SETUP.EXE to setup the soundcard, etc. But yeah – you’ve got to let go your “do it for me” mentality and start to get used to do the stuff yourself. But it gets easier when you get used to it.

    ReverseModule , in First time using Steam+Proton in Linux. HOLY SHIT!
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    Me, circa 2018 when I installed Linux for uni and decided to try Proton just to troll Linux. Little did I know… XD

    Dagnet , (edited ) in First time using Steam+Proton in Linux. HOLY SHIT!

    I’m a Linux virgin and I’m working to install my first distro ever this week. Ngl, it’s daunting. I’m not tech illiterate but damn it’s so hard to know where to even start

    EDIT: got lots of replies while I was trying to save my WSL2 files from before I upgraded windows (unsuccessfully) but I’ve been eyeing nobara and will give it a try tomorrow or friday, thx for all the replies

    EDIT2: hoping to learn how to dual-boot with separate drives before actually installing

    ReverseModule ,
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    If you mainly game there are limited options tbh. Garuda, PikaOS and Nobara. I wouldn’t look at anything beyond these which are made for gaming.

    TunaLobster ,

    Arch has some serious pull with the wiki being nicely fleshed out for gaming. Ubuntu works great. The hardest part is enabling flatpak to get Steam.

    TransientPunk , (edited )

    Why do you need flatpack for steam?

    ObviouslyNotBanana ,
    @ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world avatar

    You don’t. But flatpak can be easier to use for a beginner.

    TunaLobster ,

    You don’t. I had a few issues because I’m not using LTS. There were just enough differences that the flatpak was the way that worked easily.

    ObviouslyNotBanana ,
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    OpenSUSE Tumbleweed has worked well on my laptop running lighter games. I’ve not tried anything on my main PC yet because I’m honestly worried about compatibility* but OPs’ post gave me hope.

    TunaLobster ,

    I fired up Horizon Zero Dawn by clicking play. Which is wild compared to back when I tried to understand wine for Word back on 12.04. Super slick! Ubuntu 23.04 with Steam flatpak.

    ObviouslyNotBanana ,
    @ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah, I remember those days. I’ll try it some day, but right now I’m playing my third cyberpunk run.

    veng ,

    Pop!_OS is a good option too imo. I game a lot on it with no issues, even something like cyberpunk 2077.

    cumcum69 ,

    Just go with something popular and supported. You can always change later

    cyborganism OP ,

    Start with something easy. Usually Kubuntu is a good start for someone used to Windows.

    Fecundpossum ,

    Someone responded that you should install a gaming centric distro for your first rodeo. We’re all entitled to an opinion, but I couldn’t disagree more.

    Linux Mint. It’s a breeze to install, and it’ll help you learn without being too intense until you’re ready to graduate to EndeavourOS or vanilla arch. Mint is the perfect place to get your sea legs.

    Keep good backups of anything you care about, so you can let yourself make mistakes and learn in the command line. Wipe and reinstall is a viable option when you break shit, and once you’ve done it a few times you’ll get good at configuring your system back to where you had it before you broke it. Takes me like 20 minutes.

    tallwookie ,

    mint is surprisingly gaming friendly. have yet to run into an issue with it.

    Fecundpossum ,

    I had issues at one point, but it was right after a major version release, and they were fixed not long after. Mint is my number one recommendation to anyone getting started. If I ever get tired of a rolling release, it’s likely what I’ll go back to.

    lung ,
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    Installing Ubuntu is so easy a raccoon could accidentally accomplish it while bumping into a keyboard in a trash bin

    rtxn ,

    I’m sorry, but I need to steal that line.

    synceDD ,
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    I’m sorry, but I need to steal that line 🤓

    nobleshift ,
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    Is there a reason to prefer Rufus over balenaEtcher?

    swnt , in First time using Steam+Proton in Linux. HOLY SHIT!
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    Wow, you nearly described the same experiences I had just recently - when I installed steam and a few games for the first time on Linux. And I was also like “Oh, what? It actually works!!”

    I immediately shrunk my windows on dual boot and will likely uninstall it completely in near future. No need for bloated windows anymore

    Darorad ,

    Yeah, I nuked my windows drive about a year ago, there’s still some games I’d like to play that don’t work, but they’re few enough that I just don’t play them and don’t really mind.

    ProtonBadger , in First time using Steam+Proton in Linux. HOLY SHIT!

    Yeah I'm a grey-beard, my first experience was Slackware in the nineties. I've been using Linux since but usually on servers and in VMs only. Recently I've been able to go 100% thanks to Proton. I really enjoy the progress made with tech such as systemd, wayland, btrfs, proton and flatpak. Though a lot of grey-beards are very resentful of these I feel they represent real positive progress. There's also support for kb backlight and other features of my laptop.

    I'm also really enjoying PRIME rendering on my laptop, using Intel and Nvidia at the same time for different things. It works beautifully/seamlessly and even more so that I can just type "yay" and get a new Nvidia driver or a matching driver if there's a kernel update without having to do any babysitting manually.

    I do everything on Linux now, Office work, Rustdev and I play games like BG3/Guildwars2 simply by launching them from Steam.

    The only pain is that I have to configure each application manually to use Wayland, that's a bother.

    kool_newt ,

    Wow your beard is greyer than mine!

    andyburke ,
    @andyburke@kbin.social avatar

    there are a few of us still bodging around out here.

    I'm curious if anyone has experience with this stuff with an AMD card.

    If I could finally ditch my windows gaming rig I would be a happy man.

    transientpunk ,
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    I’m 100% Linux on a 5950x and a 5700xt. I’ve had pretty much no trouble at all. The GPU works out of the box, and with the exception of enabling Proton for non-verified games, I’ve only ever had to click install and play. To be fair though, I only play single-player/non-competitive games, so I don’t worry about anticheat at all.

    These days Windows games give me less grief on Linux than they ever did on Windows.

    Darorad ,

    I’ve run an rx580 and am currently running a 7900xtx. I have very few issues. Every once in a while a few games will break when I update Mesa, but I’m on a rolling release distro, so that’d probably happen less often on something like Ubuntu. Honestly I probably have fewer issues on Linux than I did on windows.

    bastion ,

    AMD is even better supported than nVidia.

    rtxn , (edited )

    I’m team red on Linux all the way. Ryzen 5 2600 (soon upgraded) + 6750XT. Mesa works out of the box and hasn’t broken yet. The only thing that caught me off-guard is having to manually enable VKD3D for newer DX12 games – I recommend using a launcher like Heroic (very easy, Steam-like front-end for several stores) or Lutris (universal, exposes more advanced options) to manage your games. You should also look at ProtonDB for compatibility and tweaking tips, and Lutris install scripts in case a game needs a specific framework to be installed.

    transientpunk ,
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    I’ve never had to do anything special to get games to work with Wayland. Do you mind elaborating on that a bit?

    bastion ,

    There are still a lot of games that expect some XWindows stuff. I’ve run into it, but not too frequently.

    Generally, the fix is setting an environment variable that tells a library backend to expect Wayland - something they could do in code with minimal effort. It kinda makes me wonder if there’s some common ‘port your game to steam/Linux!’ tutorial that they’re following.

    transientpunk , (edited )
    @transientpunk@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Is that for Linux native games? I’ve found I get better results for games by just using the Proton version

    bastion ,

    Some proton games too, I think. Beem a while, anyways.

    cyborganism OP ,

    Much respect!

    GustavoM , in STARFIELD NOW WORKING WITH NVIDIA BETA DRIVERS!!
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    THE YEAR OF THE LINUX DESKTOP, LADS! ITS FINALLY HA-

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    luthis OP , in STARFIELD NOW WORKING WITH NVIDIA BETA DRIVERS!!

    A bit more testing, there’s something wierd here.

    At ultra graphics I am running around 50 FPS. At low graphics I’m sitting at 60-70 FPS.

    I guess there is some frame limiting happening. I have a 3090.

    ElectroLisa ,
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    Possible CPU bottleneck. Starfield is very CPU bound, this happens even at CPUs like R7 7800X3D

    luthis OP ,

    Hmm maybe that’s it.

    LinusOnLemmyWld ,

    yup it’s using all cores on a 5950x, but I do get 60ish fps with a 7900xtx at 4k with fsr

    Molecular0079 ,

    What resolution are you running at and what CPU do you have? I have a Ryzen 3900x and an Nvidia 3090 and in the Constellation headquarters, I am seeing around 34fps at 4K. I have to lower the render resolution to 55 to make it more responsive.

    luthis OP ,

    5600X. I haven’t got that far, only to the first external area. I’ll take a screenshot of my settings.

    https://files.catbox.moe/af4pqn.png

    Molecular0079 ,

    Ah 1440p. That explains the performance difference. The fact that this game is putting 3090s to shame is saying something.

    luthis OP ,

    I haven’t checked the stats while running yet, it could well be CPU that is the bottleneck

    luthis OP ,

    Switched to Experimental to see if that made any difference. Not really. On load, gpu is sitting around 60%. After going into and back out of the cave again, GPU sitting at 90% usage. CPU constantly around 60%.

    Seems like there are some optimisations that need to happen, better unloading perhaps.

    VRAM usage was around 6gb the whole time.

    Molecular0079 ,

    I am seeing 90% usage as well. For CPU, I’ve been noticing that there’s one or two cores that get slammed to 100, so I am thinking its a CPU bottleneck. Makes sense considering that in some areas, lowering render resolution doesn’t do anything.

    LinusOnLemmyWld ,

    5950x, I get 60ish fps with a 7900xtx at 4k with fsr at 80pc, endeavourOS

    Haui , in STARFIELD NOW WORKING WITH NVIDIA BETA DRIVERS!!
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    Congrats! :) have you made a post to protondb yet? If not, feel free to share. People will appreciate it I guess. Have a good one.

    luthis OP ,

    I cannot because I’m using library sharing. It’s not in my Steam profile :(

    Haui ,
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    Interesting! Are you sure you need this? If I click on contribute, I get to choose any game I want.

    luthis OP ,

    I can only select games in my library on the contribute page

    Haui ,
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    Thats strange. Maybe I should try actually selecting a game I don’t have and see for myself. It literally said that should be careful to make sure that I have the correct game selected and not something with a similar name. I‘ll try to remember and check tomorrow.

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