she doesnt even understand the problem but at least she gives a fuck instead of being in denial about the state of the world. thats already better than many “informed” people i know.
or maybe she is in denial about other stuff like vaccines or something so who knows anyway.
Traffic dynamics are really interesting. Even after you clear the obstruction, the traffic jam remains and becomes a “ghost jam” that propagates backwards down the road until it eventually fizzles out.
You laugh but this is not a joke. Oregon drivers are too fucking courteous and drive slowly. It’s like they are so happy to live in such a beautiful place that they can’t be bothered to rush about.
Ok, so hear me out, what if instead of treating it as a race, fight or other expression of competition, we would just treat driving as a way to get from point A to point B? Speeding on a highway is a great example of diminishing returns coupled with high risk, so why not just enjoy the ride and sit back for a moment?
The average commute is 24 miles a day. If you’re doing a 3 hour commute like it’s a NASCAR event then you need to reevaluate something. Not put everyone’s lives at risk with reckless driving.
Yes and no. But if you’re commuting 3 hours a day at an average 65 mph your burning 500 dollars a month in gas. More if you’re going faster.
At that point eating 250 more a month in rent to live closer in isn’t the world’s worst idea.
And you’re still putting other people in a lot of danger just for your convenience. If an accident does happen then survivability drops off sharply after 65-70 mph.
I drive with traffic, sometimes 90, sometimes 30, sometimes 70… And no, with 40mpg I spend 200 a month in gas. I can assure you driving 97 North/south, driving the posted speed limit will get you killed.
I’m not sure why I’m even arguing with you about this, you’re West Coast, correct?
The east and west coast have the same popular myth. And it’s bullshit. The stats don’t lie. Fatality increases with accident speed. If you want to survive an accident then stay 70 or below.
Neat. Maryland has traffic codes for hindering traffic. If you are impeding traffic you will get a ticket.
Regardless of physics. You going into this so deeply tells me that you’re either Californian or Washington state. I’d go with Californian on the premise you haven’t let this go yet.
Also I haven’t downvoted you a single time. That’s not me doing that.
I grew up in Maryland actually. And you have to go very slow, like 40 on the controlled access roads, before they issue that ticket. Going the speed limit or near it isn’t a crime, no matter how much you want it to be. And every cop I’ve talked to wants us all to slow down, especially when the 95 gets fogged out. The Southwest has the same problem with people yeeting themselves into sandstorms and getting into accidents on mountain highways where they roll right off the mountain.
Thinking about it I’m pretty sure any cop that tried to bring a ticket for doing 60 in a 65 would get laughed out of the courtroom.
I commute 5 hours a day for work, and have to go in 3 times a week. I take the train now, but still have to drive 25 min to the train station. Taking the train takes exactly the same time as driving to my job. Which by itself is ridiculous. Up until recently, the option of taking the train in was not available. So I spent 5 hours in my car. The price difference between moving closer to work Vs living where I am right now is almost 2.5k a month. I don’t get paid enough to pay 48 to 52k a year in rent. I work in cancer research. The jobs are in the city, not outside. So I don’t have a choice, because every company that does what I do is in the city, and doesn’t do remote work.
I have a feeling you don’t really understand how things work for people sometimes
If you have a train then you’re not the one concerned with the speed of traffic. Unless you’re trying to shave seconds off that drive to the Park and Ride?
At any rate the answer to the housing crisis is not turning our highways into a racetrack. Your edge case in no way justifies that.
Even better would be taking the train, because it gives you time to study nature, read a book or take a short walk if you feel like it without delaying your arrival.
I assume that’s the law pretty much everywhere. That said, most of my troubles have been with people who speed by a lot and weave through traffic. Slower cars are less of a problem because while it might be the same speed difference, I see them much better and they usually don’t switch lanes erratically.
That said, I like traffic where I live now, because speeding 15% will get your license suspended, 30% will get you into jail. Traffic tends to be speedy, but coherent, everyone drives around the limit.
Weaving is not moving properly though either. Speeding and weaving through traffic is public endangerment where I live. We have a very good road safety record as well.
Because you are not important. I am very important. I have places I need to be yesterday. And, yes, it IS a truck. I have never used the bed of my truck or it would get dirty. /dont drive //dont have a car ///but I DO have a DL! Has my picture and everything
Among us bicyclists, they’re called niceholes. They’re just trying to be nice to the bicyclist, but we would rather they just follow the traffic law so that they’re predictable.
I will admit to being new to Oregon after getting here from DFW about 10 days ago. And I have been trying to balance driving safely while admiring the views with being mindful of other drivers and allowing them to pass on the left when a turn-out area (or whatever they’re called) presents itself on mostly-one-lane-each-direction roads.
But sometimes, man, these people wanna go 25 miles over the limit on winding mountain roads. I’ll go 10, maybe 15 mph over when it’s safe to do so and I’m going with the flow of traffic. But I’m new to the state, new to mountain driving, and have no idea the prominence of cops and staties and their speeding ticket quotas in this place. Basically, if you see my Texas plate, please don’t ride my ass…I’ll move over as soon as I can!
Despite popular believe, people doesn’t and can’t suddenly turn black as they pleased, while body weight is something you can at least control through dedication.
On the one end, some people do have a hard time or maybe even actually impossible time to fight their obesity.
On the other end, a lot of people are dismissive of trying to lose weight and hide behind “body positivity” and “obese people can’t help it” when they could really get a lot of results if they actually took it seriously. A relative of mine has been obese for decades, even as the diabetes came on the general take away they had was “apply medicine, keep living how I like”. Then when their liver started failing due to the fat and got the prognosis that they were probably going to die in a matter of months, they found the motivation to lose 40 pounds, in the goal of extending their life a little. Now they have what is, by all appearances, a healthy liver again. They also have much better mobility, reduced joint pain, blood sugar that doesn’t need medication anymore. Though they are still stuck with a lot of the damage already done, losing weight has been a great boon to their life, and something they always had dismissed as being something other people could do but they were just stuck that way.
Keyword: some. The number of people that actually have a dysfuncional thyroid gland is extremely low to the percentage of obesity in a population, like your example, the majority needs a push since it’s more of a mental thing, even therapy can help it.
Well we’ve had fat hate for much much longer and most attitude about fat by most people is still hate, especially by fat people themselves and that has never helped decreasing obesity.
In your example, it took clear evidence of imminent death to find the motivation to lose the weight.
I would posit that the public hate and self hate about being fat is not helping. And whenever I hear complaints about body posivity around fatness, what I think I’m hearing is the fat hate enforcers being upset at being denied. I imagine they quite like being able to hate freely and feel superior “for a good cause”.
I suspect that fat hate has never helped anyone, and probably made things worse.
I think framework of being is a personal moral failing, just doesn’t work and perpetuates the problem. Like many other “forever problems” like drug use and homelessness.
I think it’s safe to assume that problem that persist through entire lifetimes simply are bno ever going to spontaneously resolve themselves through sheer will power, especially not today where it is being sapped away by commercial interests.
We don’t have to abolish the word ‘Obese’ to avoid ‘hateful’. This started with someone being offended at the mere word ‘Obese’ and elevating it to a racial slur, then a comment saying a lot (likely the vast majority) of obese people can improve their situation.
We shouldn’t be mocking and laughing at someone because they are fat, or harping endlessly on it, but it’s sufficiently bad that when my doctor saw me being obese, he never directly said anything, just said things like “make sure to eat plenty of vegetables” and “being active really helps people be fit”. When Rebel Wilson decided to lose weight, people acted like she somehow betrayed obese people, that she abandoned her role as a model of body positivity.
The pendulum has swung too far to the point where people get too offended at the plain statement of being obese means health issues.
The pendulum hasn’t even stopped swinging toward the “more fat hate camp”. What you perceive as"too far in the anti hate direction" is merely the begin of slowing down in the more hate direction.
This entire discussion is a ad absurdum attack by the “more hate” camp to counter this slowing down. It is the endlessly repeated clip of the angry blue hair girl of the antisjw craze.
And it’s going to take way way more than that to smoke out the hate mongers out of their last refuge.
Yep, the same way people can take full control of their depression, alcoholism or other psycological issues. It’s all about just rolling up those sleeves and deciding not to have the issues. So we can safely assume that all heavier people are a result of them actively choosing to become heavy, so we should always treat them as such.
There are a variety of reasons, and of course there exists people who are in full control of their weight, but decide to not do anything about it. What I’m hinting at is that there are also a lot of people who suffer with deeper psycological issues. We don’t really tease depressed people with nick names and expect them to just snap out of it at any time. Hence I feel like we should generally treat heavier people with respect instead of assuming that it’s their active choice.
Are you claiming that depression, alcoholism, and other psychological issue cannot be treated? Are you saying that to someone who went through severe depression period twice in his life and on his path to recovery for the second period only recently? Or are you saying people will become severely obese even when eating the same healthy amount of healthy food as other non-obese people?
I mean medical intervention is a common way to try mitigate mental health issues. For many people it can never truly go away, but the effects can be lessened. Similarly, there are avenues to help with obesity, whether it be the psychological or physiological aspect.
At the end of the day, alcoholism, depression, and obesity, they are unhealthy states of being.
They are not something people choose, and while there are treatments, it’s not something everyone can control.
That doesn’t mean we should simply accept this state of being. People living with depression deserve better, people living with alcoholism deserve better than for us to say “it’s out of their control, they can’t help it, so we shouldn’t judge, let them be” when what they need is better support and better treatment options.
Likewise, obese people deserve better than “eat less, move more, fatty!” but they also deserve more than “all bodies are beautiful, just let us be”
I say this as someone who was a fat kid, and a fat teen, and a fat adult. I had a BMI of 50 for a most of my life. In my mid 30s, I got it down to 28, and still going.
So I say all of this is as someone else who was fat, obese, and morbidly obese. Obesity should be viewed the same way we view depression and anxiety, though depression and anxiety also need some better PR.
Being obese may not not always be a choice, but the the ultimate end goal of how we view obesity as a state of being is to find ways we can all manage our weight. Because obesity is not healthy, for those who can’t easily control their weight, life sucks, they are patients in need of treatment, not morally failing people, but also not “perfect plus sized activists who are healthy at every size”
Because while bodies and sizes vary and we can do healthy things at every size. Obesity is inherently unhealthy. Obviously being bullied won’t solve anything, but neither will society politely ignoring how hard it is to live a full life while suffering from obesity.
Being black isn’t an inherent health issue. It genuinely is just a different state of being. 99% of problems unique to black people are social issues, not medical issues… So the comparison between obesity and substance abuse issues is more helpful than trying to compare being obese to being BIPOC.
Congrats on your weight loss journey! May I ask if there was a specific thing that motivated you to start and keep going? And how did you turn your mindset around?
For me it was understanding the idea of equilibrium. The way I use it is to mean the state of something given enough time that highs and lows have evened out.
A practical example is with common diet mentality of dieting until reaching a goal, and then stopping the diet. The diet is a peak, not dieting is a valley, over time youll end up back at the same weight or more. Basically the problem is that modern diets give people high expectations when studies show the most likely scenario is that the weight is lost, and gained back plus some.
So what will work. If we think of this long term equilibrium, the dieting doesnt work because they aren’t permanent changes. So if we agree the only way to stay healthy long term is to make permanent changes, we can agree that making cumulative small permanent changes that affect diet will ultimately result in lost weight.
Sugar is the easiest to target IMO. Dairy, meat, and fish also are good things to target too as they cause other health problems besides weight gain. Switching to mainly water is another thing. Even taking on a new hobby or exercising a slight bit more will result in a net loss as less time is able to be spent on eating and more energy is spent physically.
Plant based whole food diets usually result in weight loss because they are less calorie dense, so you will feel full with a fraction of the calories in your stomach. Alternatively you can lose weight with calorie dense foods, but you will likely have to deal with hunger more.
Once I started thinking more like this, it was easier to come up with my own changes rather than shopping around diets with absurd restrictions. You know yourself best, make small changes and keep trending in a good direction, and if you make a “mistake” do your best to forget about it and immediately get back to it.
Not him, but I found my will to lose weight when a close family member was told their liver was failing and they had a few months to live, due to cirrhosis from their obesity. I knew I was on a similar trajectory and my bloodwork showed a hit to my liver function.
Good news is that my relative also found the will to get healthy and their liver improved more than the doctors thought could happen and so we both are doing much better. I’m even under 25 BMI now after losing 40 lbs. Also amazing to be able to move around like I used to as a teenager again.
As to how, not very helpful but just using that fear to drive willpower to just suck it up and eat less and exercise even when I really want to be doing something else. It means to some extent just living with usually being a little hungry and almost never filling full for me. Changed the food for less calorie dense stuff and avoiding refined sugars of course, but still have to reduce food intake.
And even on his level, he had to deal with systemic racism. It took two years for MTV to start broadcasting videos with black people in them, including videos already made by Michael Jackson (although it’s not true that Billie Jean was the first video by a black artist on MTV. That honor went a couple of weeks earlier to Pass the Dutchie by Musical Youth).
while body weight is something you can at least control through dedication.
Generally not.
There are quite a lot of disorders affecting eating habits, and there are quite a lot of conditions that mean that even on something like a keto diet you’ll get obese (or extremely thin).
So no, if you are not obese, you most likely are not more “dedicated” than some person you know who is. You are just healthier. Most likely since birth, and there’s nothing they’ve done wrong.
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