Seems like they usually leave out the "also" because apparently two things can't be bad at the same time. Wouldn't it be great to live in a world where only one thing is bad? I expect it'd be simpler, at least.
I mean that’s the point of the comment. Any conversation about China’s shortcomings necessarily turns into “but US also bad” as if that’s proving a point we don’t already know. This is Lemmy, not the CPAC convention. We’re probably all pretty on board with nuanced positions on the evils of imperial states
Except they’re nowhere nearly comparable. The US is pretty bad but China is an authoritarian state with internet censorship and state-controlled companies.
The “America also bad” argument feels like a mass murderer saying “well you stabbed a guy 10 years ago, you’re no different!”.
Go look up to see what China did during the great leap forward and cultural revolution. They killed about 30 million of their own people. I would like you to post a source proving that the United States murdered 30 million of its own people within the past 150 years, as well as persecuting tens of millions of people and sending millions of children from cities to be reeducated with forced labor on camps after being separated from their parents. Hundreds of thousands of intellectuals were murdered for being… Intellectuals.
The only thing that comes close was slavery and the Japanese internment during world War II. However, slavery was abolished over 150 years ago, and during the Japanese internment families were generally kept together and they were not forcibly reeducated.
“Please tell me a time when.this country did terrible things b-b-but only in this certain half of the country’s existence!! Otherwise it’s cheating!!1!”
Conveniently chose a time right where you can ignore the Slavery and the Trail of Tears (% population wise that was just as bad). Not to mention the mass Native American “reeducation” and ripping them away from their families to get a “proper white education”
Every government has done terrible things. The US, China, and Russia are among the worst. We can argue about what is “worse.” But that is completely subjective. China literally just did much of what the US did, but on a larger scale 150 years later and with different technology.
Arguably Russia was the worst of them all, but literally all 3 are bad. America pulled itself out of that era and into corporate indetured servitude era of corporations committing genocides and coups in other countries. Personally I think that China is worse than the US and Russia dwarfs both of them, but just because one is maybe marginally worse doesn’t mean the other wasn’t/isn’t bad.
Imagine thinking that people are opposed to post-scarcity economics, and not the whole “let’s kill everyone who disagrees with us until we achieve such conditions”
The one they replied to may have been criticizing “whataboutism”, but it could also be (mis)interpreted as implying the USA has not had similar problems.
But who hasn’t killed their citizens in a simple misunderstanding? Or, if that doesn’t work, America Also Bad! \s
Well, the citizens they killed were literally firing on them and killed around 150 soldiers. Meanwhile the military for the most part did not have guns. Not saying it is justified even then to use military force on striking workers, but a hell of a lot more justified than western media claims. Oh yeah, and literally no college students died that day, as well as nobody within a mile of Tianenmen Square.
if the corpse is in a location that I can feasibly observe within swimming distance, it’s a problem.
so let’s say there’s a swimming pool shaped like an L, but one of the legs of that L is LOOOOOOOONG and the other is a short little stub.
If I am at the end of the long leg and the corpse is around the corner in the short stub, it would require me to swim all the way to the corner to observe it, and if that distance is longer than I can swim, then I will probably be ok.
If I am in the little stub of the L, and line of sight observation of the corpse is just a few strokes to the corner, I WILL NOT BE OK.
It’s also a matter of relative mass.
If the pool had a drowned mouse in it, I will be sad. I might leave the water until the corpse is removed and then return to the water after it’s gone through the filtration system for a little bit (a few minutes).
If the pool had a drowned squirrel in it, I will be alarmed. I will definitely leave the water and refuse to enter until the corpse has been gone for at least a few hours of filtration.
If the pool has a drowned raccoon, cat, fox, or small dog it it, I will be upset. I’m out of the water and concerned that nobody told me first, and I’m not going back in for the rest of the day.
If the pool has a drowned medium sized dog, coyote, baby goat, infant or toddler, or animal of similar mass in it, I’ll be downright angry. I’m not going to that pool for a week, or maybe even a month.
Once the corpse in question reaches the mass of an adolescent human, I’m gone from that pool for the remainder of its open season.
If an adult human or larger died or was dumped in that pool, I’m never going to that pool again.
Hm… Perhaps you’re right. I might consider downgrading it on my scale, but then again it’s still generally more potentially contaminated biomass than a squirrel though.
Working third shift where the majority of my duties are waiting for a phone to ring and babysitting an empty building lest it burn down while nobody’s watching leaves me with more Noggin Time than most people have, so I appreciate you providing me with something to meditate upon :3
Raccoons also pose a greater risk than the others mentioned because their feces can contain a specific roundworm parasite’s eggs which are impervious to chlorine.
You would need to perform a much stricter disinfection.
I just switched yesterday after learning more about why I should here in Lemmy.
The last time I tried FF (many years ago) it was incredibly slow, so I went with chrome. But the FF of today is actually noticably quicker.
Also, FF offered to import all of my bookmarks, autofills, passwords, history, and even my extensions (if a FF version exists of course, almost all of which did) and did so seamlessly. It was the easiest software switch ever.
Yeah being able to import all my stuff from chrome to Firefox was so clutch, now I just have to find a good day to spend getting the rest of my shit out of google’s hands and get this pixel phone to run grapheneOS.
I tried FF earlier this year. It sucked. Everything just took extra clicks. The password manager was a pain and didn’t interact with my phone apps properly.
I know the complaints against chrome. When it starts forcing me to watch ads I might try FF again.
Hey, at least installing a foss browser won’t slow down your phone like a spyware app, you could always try something like Mull even for only a portion of your browsing if you have ~80MB to spare. I suggest it because I hate some of that extra bullshit that comes with standard Firefox. Also there’s tons of projects that try similar stuff with Chromium! Like Mulch. Way better defaults than Chrome
The Android FF is not a great user experience for sure. On desktop it’s just fine but Android is janky. I tolerate anyway to support Firefox but chrome is miles better on mobile.
Apart from privacy concerns, Google has started to add some really bad features to Chrome, such as “Manifest V3” and “Web Environment Integrity”. These limit your ability to block ads or generally modify your device or the websites you’re visiting, and are just a bad for the web as a whole. WEI in particular is basically DRM for the web, so Google checks your device and denies you access to websites if they don’t like it. But as long as the majority of people keep using Chrome they can just force these things onto everyone.
Yeah that constructiveness is purely subjective. Well it’s constructive based on my own personal point of view. And it might not align with other people.
Yup. It’s why the only time I play online games now is with friends or not at all. Even then it’s pretty much just co-op against the game rather than against other players. I only have so much energy for gaming and am willing to spend zero of that energy on toxic nonsense.
Check out Deep Rock Galactic. I’ve been playing for 5 years now and have never ran into a toxic player. The community is known for being pretty friendly.
Its a shame in a way but me Im juste muting when possible. Dont want to depend on mate and I have none on gaming actually.
Ive even played again to counter strike source. So much fun in the old ways. No pressure. Trash talk to fun. You can change server by navigating on browser if unfriendly.
I don’t want to be tilted when I play. And I report a lot too XD.
On LOL you can mute by default in settings. In ranked I mute as soon someone start raging and I don’t care of the rank finally.
By this way, ignoring others, you can focus and improve your gameplay easier.
When its too much and I don’t see non sense to mute in an online game, I stop play or go solo on others games. After all my steam library is full of unplayed games.
If one day I do an smurf, shame on me, it will be just to be toxic and don’t care of the game and go trash others by revenge. I’ve no smurf yet and I’m an “old” gamer now.
I hate twitch/YouTube/esport for all the non sense they made theses lasts ten hear and how they influenced in a very bad way the gaming scene who were in a sense “free”. Ty capitalism (I know its non sense but in a way )
I understand that, but muting toxic people on those team games defeats the purpose for me. The point is to communicate and work together, when you can’t do that effectively because they’re being shitheads then I’ll take my ball and go home, so to speak. I have plenty of wonderful single player games and am lucky enough to have some friends for co-op games when I’m in the gaming mood.
You do you, but that technique just doesn’t work for me, personally. I think it’s good to get a different perspective like yours though, to each their own ☺️
Its true, but thanks ping’s system exist and on the game I play is fully efficient. But in a sense I’m still like you. I’ve stopped OW definitively for example bc of what you said.
Me too. The only two games I have been playing in the last 2 years are insurgency, division 2 and payday 2. All PvE. Fuck competitive players. The little time I have available to play, I want to have fun.
You mean competitive games right? Cause it sounds like you should avoid competitive games and game modes. The competitiveness is the point on of competitive games. Which is fine, not everyone needs to enjoy every game genre/mode. Just don’t think it’s the players fault in your outlined situation.
But when I play casual I still get lots of “my team sucks” and “why are you even playing you’re so bad”. I tell them to hit ranked if they’re that sweaty but I’d rather they just fuck off entirely.
I’m waiting for some age verification system so that us older gamers can enjoy playing games without having to compete when we don’t want to. I don’t need to feel elite, I need to feel an enjoyable gaming experience without feeling like I’m not doing something right.
I don’t want a guide to tell me the best build for my character, or tell me how much damage I’m doing. I want to figure shit out without having some kid berate me for not “taking it seriously”.
Bring back games for enjoyment, not achievement farming to brag. No one fucking cares how “good” you are at -any- game when you’re my age.
Hell yeah. I’d pay money to play with regular people. I fucking hate getting torn to pieces in game and verbally by 15-year-olds that have sunk 10,000 hours into a game. I’m a grown adult with minimal gaming time.
A thought on the upper half of the meme: those “fans” sound like creeps with a fetish.
Streaming is just acting for a digital audience. If someone is going to be so upset over the identity of the streamer outside of their streaming persona, they are unhealthily invested in that person’s life.
Edit: I’m not surprised about the downvotes, but I am disappointed. This isn’t very different than followers on Twitch getting pissy when they find out their favorite gamer girl streamer actually has a boyfriend, and I’m sure most of you would agree that those people are creepy, obsessive, and fetishising women gamers.
One of the main advantages that streaming has over other forms of entertainment is that it does create a sort of relationship between the streamer and the viewer. Generally the viewer knows that the streamer isn’t really his friend, but the viewer does feel a sort of human connection to the streamer which relies on the assumption that the streamer is being authentic.
I’ll be frank: if I watch streamer content, it’s because I’m feeling lonely and watching it is a little like hanging out with a friend. Obviously it’s not the same because it’s almost entirely a one-way interaction and I know that the streamer is deliberately creating entertainment as opposed to doing what he’s doing purely for its own sake, but I would be disappointed if I discovered that a streamer’s whole identity was made up.
I like watching stream highlights, occasionally I’ll watch one live. But they’re generally pretty boring, even as background noise - they’re on there for hours at a time
I don’t think the relationship itself is bad, but it’s a relationship between you (massively plural) and an individual. It’s like being part of a crowd. I get that people like it, but I don’t get much out of it
When people engage with content, they have expectations going in - they expect to know if the content is fictional, truthful, or intentionally ambiguous.
For example, if someone watches a documentary and finds out it was all made up, they’d be right to be upset, because it presents itself as honest.
Likewise if someone watches a fantasy movie, they don’t have the expectation of honesty.
And if someone watches something like the Blair witch project, they go in knowing that it’s dubiously truthful. It’s a bit of a grey area because the deceit is part of the art.
Streaming is similar, vtubers are obviously fictional - nobody really has expectations around what they’re really like.
But if someone builds a following around being authentically themselves, and then it’s discovered that they’re lying about significant parts of their content, I can understand some degree of outrage.
I don’t really watch streamers because the dynamic between streamers and viewers seems toxic AF, where streamers are kinda forced to pander and appear personable… But I still understand being upset when you find out what you got isn’t what you were sold
Former security guard on a variety of different kinds of posts. This is 100% accurate for anywhere that doesn’t require ID or a scanner card or some shit.
Researcher dude at my uni was grading thesis defenses during the pandemic Donald Duck style on Zoom, forgot the camera, stood up and flipped a dick into someone’s life defining stressful moment.
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