I’ll be real with you I cannot believe that some people earnestly believe that protestors were mowed down by tanks. I have seen nothing in my life to even insinuate that that is what happened. There is the famous tank man video but he comes to no harm. So I don’t know where people get these ideas from. Genuinely curious.
Does that whole section quote only a single source in Chinese that I can’t read? Yes. You can believe it or not, I don’t care. Assuming that your curiosity into why people believe that protesters got mowed down by tanks is genuine, this should answer your question.
That’s a fairly weak counterpoint. It seems really meaningless who died or didn’t, the state crushed protests. A lot of ml assertion about the west is accurate but then to turn around to be blindly nationalist. Additionally, Mao was not a good leader. He likely was fairly correct in his goals, but a failure in methodology and leadership. Largely because of nationalism and the state.
What are you even responding to? I didn’t say anything about Mao, who died vs surviving, or what people think about the West. I wasn’t even making a counterpoint, I was indulging someone’s genuine curiosity.
A column of students, retreating from Tiananmen Square by a circular route, crossed the main avenue there at the exact moment that a column of tanks headed west. They scattered, but the last line of students - at least ten of them - were caught against the railings and crushed. Unlike many other killings, it was probably a real accident - if one accepts the grotesque logic that armoured vehicles had the right of way.
Not denying it happened, but I couldn’t find any images of such. Although it won’t do much to change the minds of some people, linking or embedding the actual image would make your statement much stronger :)
Someone already produced the “crushed bicycle” picture here with a couple crushed/mutilated bodies. It’s not the only one, but it strikes a chord of being the least NSFL while still proving the event.
Looks like they were posted here after my comment. Pro-CCP people are probably still going to find a way to justify it for the greater good or something like that, but at least now they can’t deny there are photos.
I’m getting bugged for the other photo heavy now, by people telling me they can give back with photos of “the mob burning people”. Pro-CCP people don’t even consider the basically-confession and disagreement of the leader of the Communist party (which led to his long-term house-arrest).
No. how could I? Armored tanks are EXCLUSIVELY implements of peace, they are NEVER used lethally or to inflict harm. The Chinese military DEFINITELY brought in armored tanks for peaceful, humanitarian reasons.
Did you cleverly infer that from the fact that I said, “no”? Or were their other subtle clues you picked up on?
The pictures of dead, maimed, mutilated civilian corpses and crushed bicycles/cars were actually staged by the protesters to frame the kind, peaceful Chinese military, who were only there to have friendly dialogue with the protestors.
As we all know, militaries NEVER use tanks to kill or injure people. They actually mostly use them to transport puppies and kittens, and the army’s very best huggers to spread love and joy :)
Exactly, because there were no civilians maimed or killed ;) Heck, tanks literally CAN’T maim or kill people, that’s not what they’re made for. Militaries exclusively bring in tanks to help spread love and peace and good vibes.
Actually, if you’ve seen the pictures of the military armed with rifles marching around the city that day, did you know that those were just the kind with the flag that pops out and says ‘BANG!’? Haha they were just trying to give everybody a good laugh to ease the tension. And it WORKED and NO ONE GOT HURT!
You are just gonna be smug and glib. Just not gonna be able to prove that anyone got hurt by any tanks or otherwise. Thanks for that. I am gonna stop wasting my time on you now.
Considering holocaust denial requires whole cloth fabrication of evidence and whatever people are doing itt just requires a more detailed reading of the primary sources I’d hold off on equating the two.
It’s easy to step in the double genocide hole if you’re not looking out for it.
And this isn’t even the worst one. There is one that looks vaguely similar but with ALL bodies instead of bicycles, so NSFL I committed I would never repost it anywhere.
No, sorry. As I said a few times, I don’t keep a file of NSFL grotesque photos like that. If the photos already posted in this thread aren’t enough, my adding the other won’t be. If you can’t convince them with the mountains of clear and simple evidence, you can’t convince Holocaust Deniers, Flat Earthers, or Tienanmen Square deniers with any evidence no matter how disgusting.
“I’m so sick of these people who won’t stop thinking or talking about people who won’t stop thinking or talking about annoying guy” say people who are talking about people who won’t stop thinking or talking about annoying guy.
“I’m so sick of these people who won’t stop thinking or talking about people people who won’t stop thinking or talking about people who won’t stop thinking or talking about annoying guy” say people who won’t stop thinking or talking about people people who are talking about people who won’t stop thinking or talking about annoying guy.
I appologize for deleting all my posts. And I don’t at the same time. Maybe try asking here in more general communities? Everything doesn’t have to come from a boutique subreddit.
I was talking about stuff that was already there. A bunch of specific questions that most people wouldn’t think of.
An example would be Thinkpad. More often than not, when you search for a solution for your problem, it would yield some Reddit links on the first page.
X/Twitter post by user cybr angel 👾 @cybrxangel reading: society won’t heal until we bring back colorful transparent technology Underneath are four images, the top left is 5 iMac G3s arranged in a circle and each with a different colour: blueberry (blue), grape (purple), tangerine (orange), lime (green), and strawberry (red). The top right image is a clear purple Nintendo Game Boy Color. The bottom left image is a see through acrylic landline phone from the 90s. The bottom right image is a clear purple Nintendo 64 with 6 controllers arranged in a semi-circle in front of it in the following clear colours from left to right: blue, watermelon (red and white), green, orange, atomic ice blue, and atomic purple.
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A few more line breaks and/or paragraphs would have made the transcript a little more legible. And if you’d like me to nitpick, the GBC in question is clear purple.
Beyond that, you’re doing us a great service. Keep it up 👍
As a person entrenched in the lower income class, almost every couch I’ve ever sat on has been profoundly uncomfortable. Gimme that floor spot any time. Easier to cuddle with the dogs anyway.
I saw the post they’re referencing, and it was a lot more heated than they’re making it out to be. It was ultimately resolved, but it would definitely qualify as drama imo
I was part of that discussion. There was an ongoing attribution issue where a person claimed their open source project wasn’t being attributed correctly (where it looks like kbin is forked from another older project)
With the Reddit migration and a range of other issues, old mate who manages kbin didn’t get around to fixing the attribution (choosing to focus on getting the server stable and fixing actual issues)
It got brough up again last week in a not so flattering post and within a day or two it was resolved (putting to bed the idea that old mate is actually out to steal people’s code)
Not a great situation overall but it’s great it’s been resolved 🦙🦙🦙
It’s a great place, everyone’s been smashing through tickets getting things improved, but like with all open source stuff it takes a while to push out the good stuff
Seriously, I must've hit the jackpot or something picking instances because it's been pretty much nothing but a stable, drama-free experience for me there
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