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Aurenkin ,

Caring about people who are different from yourself

TokenBoomer ,

Bidets!

Thehalfjew ,

Not sure if they get much hate but they sure get a lot of shit

Melatonin ,

Fuck off with your bidets, y’all are like CrossFit and vegetarians, always looking for a place to mention your shit.

TokenBoomer ,
BlackPenguins ,

Excuse me sir, I don’t have any shit. Because of my bidet.

Thorny_Insight ,

Dispassionate takes on controversial issues.

There’s always atleast two sides to each story and more often than not the truth is somewhere in the middle. If you think something is clear-cut you’re almost guranteed to be mistaken and misinformed and many of your dearest beliefs are totally wrong.

ReCursing ,
@ReCursing@kbin.social avatar

There is, of course, a relevant xkcd - it's yesterday's https://xkcd.com/2898/

blindsight ,

Oh, that’s brilliant. I hadn’t seen that one yet. The alt text is great, too.

peter ,
@peter@feddit.uk avatar

I think social media, particularly Twitter, has bred this. Twitter is designed in a way that makes it impossible to have an actual structured debate and instead encourages short and unambiguous statements which cannot possibly accurately encapsulate an issue

cobra89 ,

encourages short and unambiguous statements which cannot possibly accurately encapsulate an issue

Conservatives in a nutshell. (I’ll add the /s here for anyone not getting the joke that I’m doing the exact thing we’re talking about)

blindsight ,

I needed that /s, lol.

Because isn’t that literally what conservatives do? Pick wedge issues then make quick soundbites about “common sense” “solutions” that align with simple black & white thinking and conservative values?

Bitrot ,
@Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Yes, social media has destroyed nuance. Recognizing that a person can understand a position without believing that position is also gone. And people are often performing for likes and “ratio” and discussing in bad faith and being intentionally obtuse in the hopes of getting more attention.

ULS ,

Dispassionate? Could there be a better word? I think I know and agree with what your saying but I don’t think that’s the correct word.

fruitycoder ,

I’ve taken to letting people know my opinion that if they are omicient they are wasting their talent arguing about piddly topics with subjectives like myself

TommySoda ,

I know you probably already hate me for mentioning it, but foot fetishes. It’s a very common fetish people have and I don’t think people should be ashamed of it. It’s not even the weirdest fetish out there when it comes down to it. I understand the stigma comes from weird dudes asking girls for feet pics in creepy ways and I feel like that’s reasonable. But most of us are just regular people just trying to live our best life. I used to feel comfortable telling women I’m with that I have a foot fetish and most of them were even down to give it a try. Nowadays I’m too embarrassed or ashamed to even mention it and when I do I get shot down more often than before because of this stigma. I’m more comfortable these days telling someone that I’m bisexual than telling someone I like feet. Which I guess is a win for the gay part of me, but it still sucks.

speck ,

ngl, having my toes sucked sounds good rn

TommySoda ,

See, you get it. :)

ugh ,

You should avoid judgemental sexual partners anyways. Foot fetishes are considered “weird” if that’s how you phrase it. Generally speaking, it’s not that uncommon. Don’t open up with a partner about kinks unless you trust them not to run their mouth.

TommySoda ,

In that regard I definitely agree with you. It could even just be the people I associate with. If anything the people that have given me the most shit for it are other guys that I have as friends.

Fisch ,
@Fisch@lemmy.ml avatar

I’m not into that at all (tbh I find feet kinda disgusting) but I’ve never seen it as something really weird because it really isn’t that weird.

BonesOfTheMoon ,

I spent some time explaining amputee fetish to my CW the other day (which is actually called body identity integrity disorder). I’m just glad there are people who like their limbs and appendages attached.

Extrasvhx9he ,

Optical discs (blu-rays, DVDs, cds, etc…). I hate that I have to justify buying one or having a collection.

Donebrach ,
@Donebrach@lemmy.world avatar

How dare you store media on a reflective plate?!

TheControlled ,

Clowns. I never found them entertaining, but they just want to entertain kids and people at circuses.

Today ,

But they’re so damned scary!!! I think it’s the expression/lack of expression. I don’t know, but definitely terrifying!!

TheControlled ,

I just don’t see how they’re scary I guess ¯⁠\⁠(⁠◉⁠‿⁠◉⁠)⁠/⁠¯

spittingimage ,
@spittingimage@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah. And only a minority of them are sex killers.

TheControlled ,

I mean 1 out of infinity is a minority, right?

ULS ,

Age gaps in partners.

june ,

Depends on the gap lol

ULS ,

Why?

june ,

13/30 is rather problematic

ULS ,

What’s 13/30 mean? I hope you don’t mean 13yo. Why would you think that’s what I meant by age gap?

june ,

… a 13 year old with a 30 year old…

ULS ,

Why would you assume that from just saying “age gap”?

june ,

… I was making a joke about it by saying ‘depends on the age gap lol’…

Why are you getting defensive?

Ofc consenting adult relationships with large age gaps are generally fine with some exceptions.

ULS ,

Because child abuse is a weird thing to joke about.

june ,

If you wanna be annoyingly puritanical about it go ahead. I didn’t mean to offend your sensibilities.

prole ,

I got the joke. Made perfect sense in the context of the thread.

HaywardT ,

That’s not about the gap. That’s about the age. That’s an entirely different thing.

whogivesashit ,

13/13 is fine. It is definitely about the gap wtf?

HaywardT ,

So 13/20 is the same as 33/40. Gap is the same. Or 33/51 if you want percentages.

whogivesashit ,

Ok fair point. Though I’ll say in my experience I don’t see people being weird out by 33/40 or even 33/51 in most cases. It’s almost always with someone in their early 20s and it comes off weird when you know that the brain isn’t even finished developing until years later. I think once someone reaches around 25-30 then they are truly considered “adult” in a more broad social sense.

Common complaint from people is that we send “kids” to war, but obviously most don’t. We just know that’s it’s fucked up to make young people 18- early 20s make life altering decisions.

HaywardT ,

The brain is constantly changing. You are constantly changing. People do judge and do it very vocally. I think some are projecting and some are jealous. I suspect they will end up on the wrong side of history.

Ones values and interests change as life changes around you. Rather than trying to squeeze into the mold of those in your age group I prefer to spend time and conversation with those that share my current values, interedts, desires.

When I look back, and when I talk to others I find that age gap relationships have been some of the best.

whogivesashit ,

Also anyone dating legal teenagers as an adult are weird AF. Gives off “Id go lower but the law won’t let me”

HaywardT ,

I concur. It looks more like manipulation then a relationship.

KISSmyOS , (edited )

Speaking out against intervention in [current war]
Speaking out in favor of past interventions in [previous decade’s wars]

anarchost ,

Lindbergh Leftism needs to make a resurgence

(/s)

foggy ,

Going to a dog breeder.

Yes there are bad dog breeders. Don’t give them your business.

exocrinous ,

There are enough dogs in the world. Adopt.

SecretPancake ,

Exactly

kattenluik ,

It’s harder to do in some countries, in the Netherlands there’s basically nothing to adopt and there’s plenty free puppies to get that were just randomly born.

exocrinous ,

Sounds like the Netherlands is doing things right.

SecretPancake ,

There are many many sheltered dogs in other countries which could be imported by the Netherlands. A lot of German shelters do that and both of my dogs are/were originally from Romania. In that country they have a huge problem with stray dogs and many end up in killing stations. They even have a shelter with about 6000 dogs in it (Smeura, founded by an Austrian woman) and mostly export them to other countries because Romanians don’t seem to care about dogs.

If anyone wants to adopt a dog from another country I recommend going through local shelters/organizations that already have them imported. There are some sleazy practices going on with people breeding dogs and then selling them as if they were strays. Also you get to meet the dog upfront before making such a big decision.

exocrinous ,

Excellent point. The Netherlands is doing some things right, but not everything.

Lettuceeatlettuce ,
@Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml avatar

There are no good dog breeders, or any pet breeders for that matter. In a world where thousands of abandoned pets are put down because there is no room anywhere for them, you have no good justification to purchase a pet from somebody who creates dozens more of them voluntarily to make money.

foggy ,

Tell me you have a pet and not a working animal without telling me you have a pet and not a working animal.

You’re uninformed. Have a nice day.

Lettuceeatlettuce ,
@Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml avatar
  1. You were obviously talking about traditional pets, not service animals.
  2. The service animal industry is also largely problematic and exploitative.
  3. Rescue animals can serve as service animals in a large portion of cases anyways, you don’t need “purebreds” to work as herding animals, bomb detection animals, anxiety-comfort pets, guide pets for the blind, etc.

I know multiple people who have service/working animals and my spouse and I both work in the pet foster community, so no not uninformed.

foggy ,

Obviously. Interesting.

You’re wrong/have no idea what you’re talking about.

Have a nice day.

ULS ,

I want a Weiner mixed with Pitbull mixed with Chihuahua dog to herd my cattle. Specifically one that’s been inbred for six years.

moitoi ,

Poverty.

SorteKanin ,
@SorteKanin@feddit.dk avatar

It’s kind of ironic seeing people post something here and being downvoted. Kinda just proves their point.

mars296 ,

Not necessarily. They could be down voted because what they mentioned is hated for a good reason. Like if someone posts "Nazis" or "cancer".

xkforce ,

So if someone said that people hated nazis and holocaust denial “for no reason” and was downvoted into the dirt you’d say that proved their point? Sometimes people are downvoted FOR A REASON. That does not validate their point in a thread like this.

Kyrgizion ,

I do :(

TommySoda ,

You’re doing great. :)

Thorry84 ,

You know what you did

sxan ,
@sxan@midwest.social avatar

Blockchain. Most of the people who have this hate don’t know how it works in even the most gross sense, believe that it and cryptocurrencies are the same thing, and have a visceral, knee-jerk reaction when they’re mentioned, without being able to explain why.

Cryptocurrency, too, although there are far more examples of bad actors in that space. But the concept of an economy that works across the internet entirely outside the control of 5-eyes surveillance states? Yes, please.

Visstix ,

It gets hate because usually blockchain is mentioned it is followed by a really dumb idea.

haui_lemmy ,

Quick question: isnt blockchain also very harsh on the environment bc of ever-elongating sequences to calculate?

sxan ,
@sxan@midwest.social avatar

No. No more than, say, Lemmy. It’s just a cryptographically verifiable audit log.

This is not aimed at you; you asked a reasonable question. The height of ignorant hypocracy is people complaining about environmental impact (which is resource use) while using streaming movies, music, and online video games. Watching a Youtube video rant about the evils of Bitcoin uses more resources than syncing a day’s backlog of the Bitcoin blockchain. Most popular web sites these days are so packed with Javascript, they compete with shitcoin blockchain resource use.

howrar ,

Sounds like you’re thinking of proof of work cryptocurrencies. They use blockchains, but are not blockchains themselves. The blockchains part is trivially cheap to compute.

neidu2 ,

I’m sure there’s technological value in a write-only distributed database. I cannot come up with any good suggestions, but I’m sure that distributing links to ugly monkey pictures is probably not it.

xkforce ,

Crypto miners are the reason why graphics card prices skyrocketed back when they did. And mining uses enormous amounts of energy and contributes over 100 million tons of CO2 emissions yearly. Fuck them.

BorgDrone ,

it’s not blockchain itself, it’s how over-hyped it is for what is a data structure with a very limited and specific use-case.

It’s the fact that ‘blockchain companies’ exist while there are no ‘binary search tree’ companies or ‘weighted directional graph’ companies.

sxan ,
@sxan@midwest.social avatar

Yeah, I completely agree. For a while there, it was the new “cloud.” What made it worse, I think, is that blockchain is a relatively simple concept ane a fu& programming exercise. And once you’ve written your first, you look side-eye at Bitcoin prices and the temptation is too much for some people.

It’s painful, because cryptocurrency - if done well, without POW - does address a number of capitalism problem spaces; and blockchain has applications in secure digital voting and other data integrity areas. Cryptobros do seem to be a rather unsavory lot, I’ll admit. The majority give off greasy libertarian vibes, and I mostly keep quiet about the topic for fear of being associated with them.

xor ,

The issue is that cryptocurrency doesn’t really work without proof of work though, right? That’s the fundamental basis of how the Blockchain ensures correctness.

sxan ,
@sxan@midwest.social avatar

Proof of work has nothing to do with blockchain itself. In Bitcoin, POW is how new blocks are found, but blocks are just payloads stored in the chain. Other, non-currency data can (and is) be stored in the Bitcoin blockchain, and this data does’t necessarily require POW.

Bitcoin POW chunks might as well be new prime numbers; you spend a bunch of processing to calculate new primes, then you digitally sign the data and store those on the public blockchain and now you have digital currency. A blockchain block itself is no more CPU intensive than what it “costs” to set up a new SSL connection to whatever porn site you’re browsing. It’s literally just a chain of blocks of data hashes (even cheaper than your SSL connection) than include a previous block’s hash, and which are signed.

POW is part of the cryptocoin part; blockchain is entirely unrelated - it’s just a publically verifiable audit log (in this case also encapsulating the signed data).

There even exist cryptocurrencies which are not based on POW and the entire argument about environmental impact falls apart. Those have less environmental impact than Fortnight. But, in most cryptocurrencies there needs to be a mechanism to prevent people from arbitrarily printing cash and devaluing the system; aside from POW, staking is popular: you just buy coins outright. There are other methods; but in no case does the technology of blockchain involve POW.

fruitycoder ,

For sure. Not to mention what a “trustless” digital currency could mean for the majority of the world which is not in the hegemonic monetary position.

People argue that The Fed is Democratic or that the PBC is antiimperilest butneithers’s plans for global currency dominance has the majority of people in the world having any control or say in their monetary policies. They are both, outside of the home countries undemocratic and imperialist.

And that’s just on crypto currencies the value of a denctralized smart contract and other function execution machine is also crazy cool to me.

The majority of the hype from get rich quick suckers and scammers deserve the hate they get IMHO. Even the suckers, because they really would be OK with getting rich off of doing nothing and just having everyone cater to them for it.

Teon ,
@Teon@kbin.social avatar

XANADU

[wanders away singing] ♫_A place where nobody dared to go,
The love that we came to know,
They call it..._♫

miracleorange ,

the tears you cried!

can’t be denied!

I love that terrible movie and its amazing soundtrack.

Flamingflowerz ,

Breeders who responsibly create a hybrid breed for sporting or companion purposes. Doesn't matter if all applicable health testing is done and every puppy has a home in advance before it's even born, people seem to immediately think backyard breeder if a dog isn't purebred.

TruthAintEasy ,
@TruthAintEasy@kbin.social avatar

The man who created Labradoodles regrets his actions

JackFrostNCola ,

Can we find the pug guy? Theres someone responsible for some animal suffering

Cysioland ,
@Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml avatar

But pugs are “purebred” which further highlights the point. A pug crossbreed with a longer-snouted breed would probably be healthier. You can’t reliably criticize hybrid breeds without criticizing breeding as a whole.

All breeds were created by crossbreeding. But for some reason the society invented a cutoff point beyond which crossbreeding is not okay.

fruitycoder ,

How come?

TruthAintEasy ,
@TruthAintEasy@kbin.social avatar

Because Labradoodles wound up very cute but inherited all the bad traits from both breeds and almost none of the good. Just a bundle of nerves and health issues, or so Ive heard/read

ugh ,

I think this applies to every breeder, regardless if they do pure breeds or trendy mutts.

I’d rather mix breeds gain popularity than pure breeds

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