The corpos can fuck you over any time for any reason. If your data is not held on your own infrastructure, it’s not your data. If your computer runs Windows, it’s not your computer.
The problem is they lose their email address, which is tied to just about every digital account they have. Losing your email can royally fuck you. Many sites send an email to the old email of you try to change it, so you’ll have to get in touch with support to get it changed, and then support will want proof it’s your account somehow, and the whole process is gonna take days or weeks to fix all your accounts. God help you if you forgot any passwords because now you can’t login or even reset the password since that goes through email.
Everyone should own their own domain and have ownership of their digital life. If you don’t, then you are borrowing something that can be taken from you easily.
No one can take my email from me. Even if the current provider goes out of business, I can always point it elsewhere.
Holy shit, that’s a pretentious way to say you think you’re hot shit while showing you’ve barely got a chin above script kiddie.
Where the fuck are you gonna cram billions of new DNS records? You trying to nuke the whole system?
Billions of new IP addresses? From where, your ass? IPv4’s fucking dead and IPv6 is crawling.
You want billions of shitty home servers? Why not just hand cybercriminals the keys to everyone’s data?
No big email providers for spam filtering? Hope you like dick pills and Nigerian princes.
Home servers for email? Great plan. Who needs reliability when the power goes out or your shit internet drops?
You think everyone can afford this? Some people can barely pay rent, let alone run a fucking server.
“Private” home servers? Please. They’d fold faster than a house of cards in a hurricane up against any direct persistent attack from any capable threat actors.
Try running a big mailing list on your puny home setup. Watch that shit crash and burn.
Good luck explaining to the feds why you can’t cough up subpoenaed emails.
You really think billions of clueless users can handle this? It’s like giving toddlers chainsaws.
Everyone run their own email on locally hosted domains…? Jesus fucking Christ. What are you, 14?
Edit: lemy.lol has MX records that point to icloud.
This toolbag indeed uses someone else’s services for their email exchange.
Governments don’t order such specificity. They would have, at most, told M$ that Skype is being used by Hamas and that there would be an audit on the situation, so M$ over-corrected to be better safe than sorry
This is why America will crumble. In the USSR, the communist party was mostly Zionists. They’d purge the party from time to time and execute Russians in the party. They leeched on to America. They will leave when you are no longer relevant.
I actually pity you. The BRICS have started a separate economic order. The world doesn’t want you anymore. Your economy is based on dollar hegemony. You’re all armed to the teeth. It’s gonna be wonderful.
That’s what you get for trusting Microsoft with anything…or Google…or Apple…or Facebook… stop tying your communication to these companies, they can pull the rug at any time.
You can have more than one dumb pipe to push bits through, but if the ISP can read your network traffic then you have bigger problems than a single-point-of-failure.
I’m very lucky in that regard. Not only do we have a local ISP and mobile service from a national carrier, but the electric co-op that provides our power just ran 2.5Gb/s fiber through the neighborhood and lets members use 200Mb/s on it for free.
For the most part the ISP doesn’t have a way to know you are using VoIP to contact people in a particular country (unless you are using a VoIP service owned by the ISP of course).
They didn’t fuck up, they made a design choice about the scope of the app. Are they also fucking up by not blurring the messages on screen? After all someone could be looking over your shoulder without you realizing it. Maybe Signal should ship with spyglasses.
It’s weird that apps sometimes change scope and add features that users want? Ones that contributers already did most of the work for?
Why aren’t they insisting this doesn’t need to be dealt with because it was a feature, not a bug?
That was literally what they have been saying this whole fucking time.
“The database key was never intended to be a secret. At-rest encryption is not something that Signal Desktop is currently trying to provide or has ever claimed to provide,” responded the Signal employee.
Did they make an intentional design choice which users should have been okay with like you said the first time or is this a feature users wanted? It can’t be both.
You are right to bringing up this issue and it is pretty fucking big deal inho mistakes happen but signal "leadership" has made series of questionable choice which don't quite align with the user base.
Other person is down playing it hard too. Hard to tell why as he is not really providing any good reason besides trying to "explain" it away
Not picking a fight; don't really care what you have to say in response. Just needed to share my observation that you are latching onto people in a really aggressive manner in multiple threads as of late. If that doesn't bother you then go ahead and disregard.
Unless you build your own, you have to trust your ISP to move packets, but you don’t have to rely on any third party services or give them your personal info to use social media.
Fully decentralized, open-source, and encrypted social networks exist. The only servers needed are your computer and the computers of the friends you communicate with. (See: Retroshare )
They’re just never going to get big because small, personal friend-to-friend networks can’t compete with the network effects of centralized media and a never-ending torrent of dopamine on tap.
Yor right I will just use my billions of dollars to build a global internet infrastructure and make my posts on my own phone using the os I just built in my spare time for fun its not about trust its about necessity
We had an issue a couple days ago where we couldn’t move a VIP to a new phone because the vendor wanted us to perform multi-factor auth via a device from two years ago. We had to roll back the service. Our entire lives are built atop fragile digital infrastructure with broken and poorly thought-out policies.
No, it’s standard corp level behavior that’s beholden to government censorship and propaganda when it doesn’t fit the narrative. You can substitute any big tech company in the US for Google. They all do this. It’s why the government is not a fan of TikTok, they don’t have that same level of control over the flow of information.
that and it is quite literally spyware that sends all the consumer data to the CCP where they can adjust their own algorithms to show things that can sway the minds of people too young to think critically
The hell do you think the data from American companies goes‽ Snowden literally told us the US govt is doing the same thing…not saying they should, just asking where is the outrage that we’re being spied on by our own government… It’s plenty there when we’re being spied on by China… And quite frankly I feel like China can do a lot less to me than home can.
I’m no microsoft fanboy, but I am shocked that they would do this. Everyone should be shocked. To be anything but shocked is to be complacent.
This is the kind of shit google does on the regular, Never heard of Microsoft doing anything like this before.
And as I’ve said in response to instances of google doing this, I’ll say it again here. This continues to highlight the dangers of having all your eggs in one companies basket, by choosing comfort and convenience you’ve given your entire digital life over to a company that has no compunctions against metaphorically guillotining it for any reason they want.
This continues to highlight the dangers of having all your eggs in one companies basket, by choosing comfort and convenience you’ve given your entire digital life over to a company that has no compunctions against metaphorically guillotining it for any reason they want.
I agree. Which is why I don’t use anything Microsoft. Even in software projects I go out of my way to not use a single Microsoft dependency or library.
I self-host my own photo auto-upload with Nextcloud. I don’t use Windows. I’m forced to use MS stuff at my work but I managed to get the company-wide policy changed to allow anyone to use Linux or Mac, so I’m running Ubuntu.
I’ve also been working up the effort to ditch stock Android and go with GrapheneOS.
Friendly reminder to not use freemail accounts (Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo, etc) for anything important. It’s very hard to get any sort of support as your account is seen as low-priority. Also, always use your own domain so that it’s easy to move to a different provider in the future, without having to change your email address.
FastMail and MXRoute are good options. MXRoute has good Black Friday sales and all their plans include unlimited email address and domains (you’re just limited by total disk space).
Microsoft’s paid plan is decent too. $70/year for a personal account or $100/year for a family account (up to 6 people) and it includes the Office suite, 1TB cloud storage, and email.
Do you have an example? That’d block pretty much every business customer, including paid Google and Microsoft users (as the paid accounts use a custom domain). I’m not sure which sites and services would want to block all business users like that.
Also, FastMail is definitely mainstream. It’s pretty popular and has been around for 25 years.
It’s at least common on forums as bots love making accounts with non-megacorp email addresses on PhpBB and MyBB forums. Typically, there aren’t people signing up the same services with business emails as personal ones, so if ones expecting not to be used by businesses want to fight spam, it’s generally pretty effective and consequence-free to block email providers not known to have effective anti-bot measures built in.
There were 2 online game stores that wouldn’t allow me to register with a protonmail account, AllYouPlay and another one that I can’t recall, which was weird to me
same. I see outrage-obsessed people constantly talk about how using a custom domain or (gasp) running your own mail server is internet suicide and literally impossible because your addresses won’t be seen as real or your mail will never get delivered by anyone. I’ve been doing both for over a decade with no trouble whatsoever, so I wonder how badly these folks are botching their mail setup to be getting that treatment.
I run my own email server, but I use an outbound SMTP relay so that my email get delivered. It’s very very difficult to get emails from ‘new’ self-hosted mail servers into the inbox of Outlook/Hotmail users, unless you own the whole /24 IPv4 range used to send the emails, and can guarantee it won’t become anywhere close to spammy.
Since you’ve been hosting yours for a while, Microsoft might have it marked as ‘trusted’. It takes a while to get to that point though - you need to send them quite a few emails, and users need to not mark them as spam.
This is largely an issue with top level domains. Things outside of .com/.org/.net tend to get flagged as non-viable email addresses, because it doesn’t fit the specific “@.com” format that the site has programmed their scripts to look for.
Also, spammers and scammers often tend to use TLDs outside of the big three, because the domains tend to be cheaper when they don’t end with “.com”. So the spammer is able to buy and cycle through their domains much faster, because they’re saving money with every single domain registration.
Nah not for the big providers. The biggest problem is not having RUA for DMARC set up at all, set to None for the action or having an email in the RUA that will give a bounce message back to a sender (or not having DMARC at all in your DNS). The safe thing to do is set up SPF, DKIM and DMARC (correctly).
You cant always control getting into a spam box from time to time if someone in your IPs /24 makes it onto popular spam databases but that’s very temporary but it is also very possible someone in your /24 is always on the lists. You can check yourself and there are both scripts and sites that will check most of the popular ones for you.
/24 is a very popular CIDR to use for stuff like spam filtering or internet facing IPS.
because the domains tend to be cheaper when they don’t end with “.com”.
did a quick check with a weird domain name to not hit reserved ones etc,.
on one domain hoster .com was the second cheapest, only one other offered was cheaper all others offered were more expensive than .com looking at name.com it showed some bit cheaper ones like .pro or .life but majority seems definitively more expensive than .com also most spam i got (as long as i got spam) was genuinely (spf) from .com domains that days. however i do not really get much spam any more 😁
really i’ve had that problem once (and only once in > 20years of self-hosted emailling), and guess what? competitors are available, problem quickly solved.
A lot of people are already paying Microsoft, either for OneDrive space or for Office. In that case, you may as well use what you’re already paying for. They’re also much more likely to provide support if you’re a paying customer.
I wasn’t saying to give Microsoft money, I was just saying that their paid plans are good value, particularly in the case where you need Office.
Having used the web version of Office at my job, I know I would not pay for it. It is compatible-ish, but severely lacking in features, enough so that I don’t trust it to render properly or maintain the formatting entered using the desktop app. If that is good enough then there are lots of alternatives.
Or if you have a little more money, there’s the Proton pass which comes with VPN, Email, Drive, Calendar, and Password Manager. All protected under swiss privacy laws. They have a free tier of their drive with 5GB storage so you can collaborate on other people’s documents without needing to pay yourself, and they have a $120/yr US Tier for 500GB for 1 person, and a $288/year US Tier for 3TB for up to 6 people. If you don’t need that much storage and don’t care about anything other than the email, they have a 15GB plan with just email and calendar for only $48/yr US.
This is not an ad, I am a real person with no connection to Proton except a deep respect for their business, and an even deeper hatred for Microsoft
I think Proton is a good choice. I’ve heard good things about them.
For me personally, I’d be worried about putting all my eggs in one basket. For example, I like having my password manager (Bitwarden) entirely separate from everything else. I know that’s not how the general population thinks though, so I think all-in-one solutions like Proton (and also Microsoft’s and Google’s paid suites) definitely have their place.
Do Proton have a larger plan with just email and calendar?
I think I’d rather have proton be my password manager than anyone else out there, and then take advantage of the other services they offer with it. Unless I wanted to keep my password manager entirely offline, which is far more secure but far less convenient
If you use a keepass file, you can just have it on a trustworthy cloud (like private nextcloud server) and sync to the keepass apps via webDav. Works perfekt!
I think Proton is a good choice. I’ve heard good things about them.
Well they have been behaving just as Microsoft has been doing if we’re complaining about these kinds of behaviours. Handing over information about environmentalists and freedom fighters to repressive governments, etc.
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