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echodot , to games in "We're not blessed with big marketing budgets," Xbox's EMEA marketing lead laments Microsoft's lack of investment

Did they try having some games I might be interested in? I don’t feel like they need marketing I feel like everyone knows about Xbox, then the fact that they exist. The big problem is that I have no reason to buy one.

At some point have they tried possibly making a decent halo game? Because the recent installments have not been good.

Kolanaki , to games in "We're not blessed with big marketing budgets," Xbox's EMEA marketing lead laments Microsoft's lack of investment
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Really? Cuz I see more Xbox ads than PlayStation or Nintendo ones.

dinckelman , to games in "We're not blessed with big marketing budgets," Xbox's EMEA marketing lead laments Microsoft's lack of investment

Sounds like the chase for infinitely profitable growth ain’t going that great for them

magiccupcake , to games in "We're not blessed with big marketing budgets," Xbox's EMEA marketing lead laments Microsoft's lack of investment

Enough money to buy Activision-Blizzard and Bethesda, but not enough to actually pay for developers or marketing.

Tronn4 , to games in "We're not blessed with big marketing budgets," Xbox's EMEA marketing lead laments Microsoft's lack of investment

But you ain’t got no games Lt. Dan

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Xbox: No games.

PS5: No games.

Nintendo: Games; but even the 10 year old ones are still full price.

scrubbles , to games in "We're not blessed with big marketing budgets," Xbox's EMEA marketing lead laments Microsoft's lack of investment
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

I work with a lot of ex-microsofters, and this sounds about normal. In Microsoft-land you only get funding if you’re profitable - and even then you need to be wildly profitable. They don’t care about being startup costs, or getting to profitability, if you aren’t right now you’re going to have to beg and plead for funding.

Of course then they’re immediately surprised that things aren’t just profitable immediately, and take time to build a userbase, and wonder why they’re constantly behind on the latest tech. God forbid they actually invest in promising tech…

Fiivemacs , to games in "We're not blessed with big marketing budgets," Xbox's EMEA marketing lead laments Microsoft's lack of investment

Does it really need it…the entire friggin world knows Xbox, PlayStation or Nintendo. Basically anything else isn’t worth the effort or its PC. Advertising is such a joke

acosmichippo ,
@acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

if you’re trying to convince people to buy an xbox instead of a playstation, yeah. And keep current xboxers within the ecosystem. post-purchase affirmation is a big component of advertising too.

style99 ,

You mean their games are a joke. Hard to imagine someone wanting an xbox over a PS5/Switch.

maxinstuff , to technology in Google and Microsoft consume more energy than 100+ countries | Windows Central
@maxinstuff@lemmy.world avatar

Are we talking consumed for their own use? Or consumed as part of delivering cloud services to their customers?

These are very different things. The former would be horrifying the latter would be misleading in the extreme.

Randomgal ,

I think it is the customers who pay for the electricity that they use? Las time I checked MS didn’t pay anything in my electric bill.

kurap1ka ,

Well you don’t have 1000 vms running in azure, do you? It’s not about your Xbox…

doggle ,

For software and devices running locally, sure. Much of what MS does these days is cloud based where the bulk of the electricity is being used in a data center somewhere and the customer isn’t (directly) paying for it.

LodeMike , to technology in Google and Microsoft consume more energy than 100+ countries | Windows Central

No matter which way you correctly read the headline, it’s false.

You can either read it as Google and microsoft individually consumed more electricity than these 100 countries did (false, it’s Google and microsoft combined)

OR Google and Microsoft combined consimed more than these 100 countries did total.

Did an intern write this or something?

VintageTech ,

CoPilot with Gemini plugin did.

LodeMike ,

Hm. Maybe it’s ambiguity is there to maximise clicking on the article?

Allero ,

In 2023, Microsoft and Google consumed 48 TWh of electricity (24 TWh each).

Each of them separately.

dan , to technology in Google and Microsoft consume more energy than 100+ countries | Windows Central
@dan@upvote.au avatar

and how much of that is energy that’s essentially used to run other companies, by way of their cloud services? I imagine that’d be a pretty substantial amount.

explodicle ,

To be fair, that level of centralization in the hands of a for-profit corporation is worrisome too. They’ll lure in small businesses and then enshittify.

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

They’ll lure in small businesses and then enshittify.

I’m not so sure… These “cloud” services are paid services they make a lot of money from, and it’s a huge industry with a very large number of competitors (practically all major hosting services, and even a lot of smaller ones).

nyan , to technology in Google and Microsoft consume more energy than 100+ countries | Windows Central

Many countries don’t use a lot of electricity, especially those where the grids are spotty or in poor repair, or the overall population is small. Even without the AI garbage, I’d expect large tech-sector companies to use more energy than many countries.

(In other words, the headline for this was really poorly chosen. “Microsoft and Google pour more electricity into AI than 100+ countries use” might have gotten a bit closer to the actuall point, if it’s actually true.)

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

Microsoft and Google pour more electricity into AI than 100+ countries use" might have gotten a bit closer to the actuall point, if it’s actually true

From what I can tell, the article is talking about total electrical use, not just AI.

Also probably ignoring the fact that some of their data centers have practically the entire roof covered in solar panels, Microsoft is investing in nuclear energy, etc.

TheReturnOfPEB ,

That is a big probably.

nightwatch_admin , to technology in Google and Microsoft consume more energy than 100+ countries | Windows Central

“While nuclear fusion seems like the perfect solution for AI’s power needs due to its non-existent impact on the environment…”

nonexistent is key here.

BearOfaTime ,

Well, it’s definitely non-existant…

slaacaa ,

Non-existent power source for a non-existent tech, a match made in heaven

(meaning what they hype as AI is actually mostly just LLM)

bbuez ,

Second law of thermodynamics would like to chime in, even with such a perfect nonexistent power source, waste heat is still an issue… which you can radiate to space, which would take tremendous land use to facilitate…

Or we use that land and capital and effort for solar power, which exists and could power practically everything in our lives, minus AI. Sounds like a win to me.

(Also not to mention the necessity to fire up more fossils for this shit to compensate for the current lack of miracle power for their pipe dreams)

explodicle ,

“A drop in the bucket” would be an overstatement here.

Aetherion , to technology in Google and Microsoft consume more energy than 100+ countries | Windows Central

They want to become carbon neutralbut climate crisis is already running.

Feels like build „don’t smoke here“ - signs in our forests while they are burning.

Jako301 , to technology in Google and Microsoft consume more energy than 100+ countries | Windows Central

And both of these companies build and purchased more renewable energy sources than all 100+ countries combined. Microsoft has committed to be carbon free by 2030, and while I don’t belive in their commitment, they at least seem to be trying contrary to most nations. They even invested in nuclear plants for their power needs.

You can fault both companies for a lot of different reasons, but in terms of carbon emissions due to power usage, they are better than 99.9% of the countries on that list.

nightwatch_admin ,

They didn’t build it. They buy from local suppliers, power that could have been used by people and companies already there. Now it’s just a lot more, while a serious part of the power consumption goes into debatable purposes like overhyped AI stuff.

Edit: and fwiw, recently Microsoft themselves announced that they are far from their reduction targets roadmap, so not sure where you got the happy flow news from

oce ,
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Green energy that could go to higher priority sectors like decarborning housing, food production and transportation . Carbon free doesn’t mean no ecological impact, of course it’s better than fossil fuel, but it still a lot of ressources extracted and place taken over nature (which is the first cause of biodiversity loss). So ideally we should only destroy so much for essential needs.

BearOfaTime ,

Meh, it’s all smoke and mirrors.

This is the “manufacture more to use fewer resources” nonsense of cash for clunkers.

BlackLaZoR , to technology in Google and Microsoft consume more energy than 100+ countries | Windows Central
@BlackLaZoR@kbin.run avatar

Sun consumes 100000000000+ countries power. We have to do something!

nightwatch_admin ,

Easy, switch it off!

pirat ,

Not the brightest idea…

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