On the one hand, generative AI doesn’t have to give deterministic answers i.e. it won’t necessarily generate the same answer even when asked the same question in the same way.
But on the other hand, editing the HTML of any page to say whatever you want and then taking a screenshot of it is very easy.
Just because you click on it that doesn’t make it accurate. More importantly, that text isn’t “clickable”, so they can’t be measuring raw engagement either.
Yup, if you have to repeat your search 3 times, you’re seeing 3x the ads. If you control most of the market, where are your customers going to go? Most will just deal with it and search more.
Technically, generative AI will always give the same answer when given the same input. But, what happens is a “seed” is mixed in to help randomize things, that way it can give different answers every time even if you ask it the same question.
OK, but we’re discussing whether computers are “reliable, predictable, idempotent”. Statements like this about computers are generally made when discussing the internal workings of a computer among developers or at even lower levels among computer engineers and such.
This isn’t something you would say at a higher level for end-users because there are any number of reasons why an application can spit out different outputs even when seemingly given the “same input”.
And while I could point out that Llama.cpp is open source (so you could just go in and test this by forcing the same seed every time…) it doesn’t matter because your statement effectively boils down to something like this:
“I clicked the button (input) for the random number generator and got a different number (output) every time, thus computers are not reliable or predictable!”
If you wanted to make a better argument about computers not always being reliable/predictable, you’re better off pointing at how radiation can flip bits in our electronics (which is one reason why we have implemented checksums and other tools to verify that information hasn’t been altered over time or in transition). Take, for instance, the example of what happened to some voting machines in Belgium in 2003: businessinsider.com/cosmic-rays-harm-computers-sm…
Anyway, thanks if you read this far, I enjoy discussing things like this.
You are taking all my words way too strictly as to what I intended :)
It was more along the line : Me, a computer user, up until now, I could (more or less) expect the tool (software/website) I use in a relative consistant maner (be it reproducing a crash following some actions). Doing the same thing twice would (mostly) get me the same result/behaviour. For instance, an Excel feature applied on a given data should behave the same next time I show it to a friend. Or I found a result on Google by typing a given query, I hopefully will find that website again easily enough with that same query (even though it might have ranked up or down a little).
It’s not strictly “reliable, predictable, idempotent”, but consistent enough that people (users) will say it is.
But with those tools (ie: chatGPT), you get an answer, but are unable to get back that initial answer with the same initial query, and it basically makes it impossible to get that same* output because you have no hand on the seed.
The random generator is a bit streached, you expect it to be different, it’s by design. As a user, you expect the LLM to give you the correct answer, but it’s actually never the same* answer.
*and here I mean same as “it might be worded differently, but the meaning is close to similar as previous answer”. Just like if you ask a question twice to someone, he won’t use the exact same wording, but will essentially says the same thing. Which is something those tools (or rather “end users services”) do not give me. Which is what I wanted to point out in much fewer words :)
Ah, so you’ve never had a job as a subject matter expert speaking to a member of the general public i.e. GP, Pharmacist, Mechanic, IT Technician, etc.?
I don’t think the person you’re responding to was saying that the person who got banned from their GP was the subject matter expert. I think you’re both saying the same thing and you’re definitely both right, this person (screenshotted in the OP) is a total moron 😂
People have no idea about the complexity and scale of the world. Just how complicated the logistics chain for something like Kentucky Fried Chicken is… “hOw DoEs A cHiCkEn ShoP rUn OuT oF ChIcKeN!?!”
The best is when you are a consultant, as people will actually bring you in at great expense or fly in from around the world to disregard your opinion.
Now I just go on Lemmy to get my opinion about those same things (and others) disregarded from the comfort of my toilet.
Space is big. Really big. You just won’t believe how vastly, hugely, mindbogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it’s a long way down the road to the chemist’s, but that’s just peanuts to space.
I have a distant cousin who was totally destroyed by measles. According to her mom, she was 6 years old and a very bright kid, very eager to learn. Her siblings recovered, but she didn’t. I mean, she recovered as far as surviving, but she’s in her late 50s now with the mental capacity of a toddler.
Her family lived in a one room shack deep in Appalachia from the 50s through the 80s. Going to the doctor wasn’t something they did unless they were dying. They managed to get her to the hospital once it became clear she likely wasn’t going to make it.
I met her in the early 2000s and different family members take turns caring for her. She talks but it’s mostly just going with what a person says. “Sheila, I heard you were a millionaire!” “Yeah, yeah. I got millions dollars. Yeah.” “Can I get a few thousand?” “Sure, yeah, sure, a few thousand. Yep. Mmhmmm.”
Her brother used to mess with her at the store her mom worked at. “Hey Shiela, you hate that ugly bastard that just walked in here don’t you?” “Yep. Mmhmm. I hate that ugly bastard.” “Awww Sheila, you hate me and think I’m ugly?” “Noooooooo. Nuh uh. Nooooo!” “Yes you do, now tell him!” “Yep, mmhmm, I do.”
Hopefully my partitioning was decent though, so distro-hopping shouldn’t be too hard if I feel like switching (or even running different distros side-by-side?)
I was personally drawn to it because: it’s not Ubuntu; ButterFS seems like a nice safety net; KDE Plasma is sexy AF; noone seems to have anything particularly horrible to say about it.
Why is your chosen distro (obviously) the superior choice?
Mint for gaming, because it’s nice to have a rock-solid OS that doesn’t need much beyond updates in terms of maintenance. Arch for hobby tinkering, because voiding warranties is fun.
Yeah, those are the same reasons I chose tumbleweed. Plus the rolling release.
I hope you made your system partition large enough. I had about 20G for / (excluding /home), which used to be enough for kubuntu, but quickly ran out of space on tumbleweed. I assume because of the Btrfs snapshots.
I reinstalled tumbleweed on a larger partition. Then couldn’t install the proprietary codecs, because of an error I couldn’t resolve.
Installed it a third time recently, now it runs smoothly.
No way in frigid hell would I let my cats near a raccoon. Fuck the fuck no. They’ve got rabies and all other manner of nasty shit. Don’t care what sub it is, this is negligent.
These are allegedly strays all coming in off the same street. Cat food is probably better for this raccoon than garbage, and it’s nice to see a human presumably offering a safe alternative and looking out for the wildlife IMHO. Those potential diseases are at least somewhat our fault.
I accidentally watched a YouTube video on a browser without blocking. It started with an ad. I thought I’d just endure it this time. Then another ad. OK, just this time then. Suddenly, another ad in the middle of the video. I gave up. Who’d have the patience to sit through this?
Then there’s Google’s habit of completely ignoring the browser’s language settings so I have to sit though ads I don’t even understand.
Then there’s Google’s habit of completely ignoring the browser’s language settings so I have to sit though ads I don’t even understand
I used to occasionally watch YouTube on my lunch break when I would go into the office. I loved getting ads in Spanish, the office was in Greenville,SC not a large Spanish native population. I have premium on my account but don’t like signing in personal account on work machines.
I had to tailor my do not recommend and not interested in this subject clicks until I was left with the one advertiser that I’m actually interested in, and that’s basically low voltage communication mux devices…
That feature still works for you? I used to be able to skip ads on the ad by blocking them. Now the ad just finishes playing AND pops up again during the next ad break.
What I think is so unfair is that if I actually sit through one ad I don’t get rewarded and fast forwarded to the video, no. I’ll get a second ad that, if I am lucky, I can skip after 5 additional seconds. Or it’s an unskippable one. That’s not fair. I could have skipped the first one but I gave you that, I gave you that time of my life, now give me something back!
“It says they owe me money in these documents!! Now…if anyone could actually point out where it says they owe me money in these documents, I’d really appreciate it…”
Set some limits. Each person can own one primary residence and x number of secondary dwellings. Each additional dwelling is taxed at a higher rate than the one before.
People can still buy themselves a house and maybe another couple houses or condos for their family or investment.
But big landlords can’t profitably buy up neighborhoods then crank up the rent. Or perhaps they can own them, but they’re required to be non-profits and expenses and rents are highly controlled relative to income in the area.
It’s a tough problem to solve though… Huge apartment buildings do have economies of scale that permit high density living.
And property owners who don’t sell or develop their land at all because there’s not enough incentive are a big problem in other parts of the world.
I really like the idea to tax each house successively more. And the money made from these taxes could specifically go to the government buying houses and turning them into social housing, or perhaps providing big discounts for first home buyers.
But this is exactly the point - the market isn’t free, it’s being controlled. Primarily by companies that are buying up as many properties as they can.
As long ad there are at least two companies in an area, it will be less profitable for every extra property versus your competitor. That at least makes hoarding harder, as anyone can come in to out compete the two duopolies as their first will be way more profitable than the established’s 11th. In turn, keeping prices down, scaled by the increase in taxes per extra property
I’d even settle for a law saying that a single corporation cannot own more than one house, duplex, triplex, apartment building (or whatever) in one city. If you want to have a real estate empire across America, fine. You can have your empire be one building per city.
That wouldn’t work unless you also limited the number of corporations an individual can own. The property owners will just have one property in each company, but they will own like 50 LLCs.
See, things like bodily autonomy and right to exist in general are negotiable, but if you try to limit what one man can own, you’re definitely one of them commies!
Oh, right. Crossing out two continents. Well, that leaves with 4 continents, but one has no countries, so 3 continetns. Eurasia, Africa and Australia. Still almost entire world.
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