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FlyingSquid , to insanepeoplefacebook in Sovcit wants to know how to not pay property tax, other sovcit has an answer.
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Fun part: Ask them to point to examples of such cases where the state lost in federal court.

BonesOfTheMoon OP ,

Maybe I will, for the lolz.

Steve ,

Do your own research lazy bones

Lichtblitz ,

That would work with someone who argues fairly. But with someone, who has the super weapon of “they don’t want you to know, so they hide those cases”, you won’t get far.

i_dont_want_to ,

I can’t find it right now, the government censored my Google.

BonesOfTheMoon OP ,
FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Obviously. Duh.

NatakuNox , (edited ) to aboringdystopia in May 13, 1985
@NatakuNox@lemmy.world avatar

And racist think this kind of life destroying event generation after generations doesn’t have a negative impact on a group of people. The fact that Black Americans have anything should be applauded. This is just one event, look up Oklahoma massacre, or our wide spread lynchings history. There are still to this day southern families that have body parts of black lynching victims because that’s just what their ancestors did back in the day. Hunt down black people that didn’t stay in line and mount a piece of their body over the mantel as a family heirloom.

FiniteBanjo ,

TBF I think a cult compound in the middle of the city full of white people armed to the teeth who want to take down the government and keep missing their paroles wouldn’t end well, either. This event was not in itself racism destroying generations, rather the result of.

TokenBoomer ,

Excellent use of tautology

mildlyusedbrain ,

Tautological statements are true so assume you meant bad use of tautology

TokenBoomer ,

Well I am a beginner who has just started.

AngryCommieKender , to lemmyshitpost in A conversation with my wife

My mother scandalized the Navy nurses by refusing to allow me out of her sight for any reason including a circumcision. She said there was no need,.as she loved every part.if me, and wasn’t going to be staying in the hospital one second longer than necessary. The doctor had to shoo the nurse out of the room while she was objecting that was not standard procedure.

intensely_human ,

Bless your mother

Digestive_Biscuit ,
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Welcome to the fold, brother.

Solace_Firebird , to science_memes in Calculus made easy

I have finally discovered my niche content: math texts that are irreverent and also defiantly uncomplicated.

wise_pancake ,

Math is never irrelevant

new_guy ,

Irreverent not irrelevant

Sotuanduso ,

What’s this about the ears on an elephant?

Solace_Firebird ,

A little confused, but they’ve got the spirit.

evasive_chimpanzee ,

Read “a mathematicians lament”, by Paul Lockhart. It was originally a short essay (25 pages you can find free online), but expanded into a book that I haven’t read yet.

In a similar vein is Shape, by Jordan Ellenberg.

Solace_Firebird ,

I read a short paper called “Lockheart’s Lament”, but I didn’t realize he had expanded on it. I might have cried about that one. Thanks for the reccomendations!

stelelor ,

Thank you for this beautiful example of using “defiantly” correctly!

rpr ,

He defiantly used it properly, definitely.

Zachariah , to mildlyinteresting in The solar panels on top of my campervan have generated 1 megawatt hour of energy as of today
@Zachariah@lemmy.world avatar

please report back in the future when it’s 1.21 jigawatts

victorz ,

Gettin jiggawatt it, nana na na nana na

SauceBossSmokin ,

Whoa. This is heavy.

Bricriu , to aboringdystopia in Get rid of landlords...
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I would argue that a live-in landlord that does maintenance work or acts as a building super is in fact doing a job.

Otherwise, agreed.

hellothere ,

Building maintenance can absolutely be a job, which is wholey separate from being a landlord.

knatschus ,

My dad did build the house, maintence it and now he collects rent, how is that seperate from being a landlord?

hellothere ,

So he was a builder, then he maintained the building. Both of those involve labour and doing things.

Now, if as a landlord he only collects rent and does nothing else, then that’s why it’s not a job, it’s an investment. Same as if you own shares in a company.

If he still maintains the building, then that’s still labour, but the work is the maintenance, not the landlording.

knatschus ,

There is no landlording without maintenance, you could outsource it but it’s still a part of it. There’s also a bunch more a landlord has to do, it’s not a full time job but still. You really shouldn’t lump in the average “why build a single family home if i can build a home for two families?” Guy, with those big companies who don’t give a fuck about their tenants.

DessertStorms ,
@DessertStorms@kbin.social avatar

“why build a single family home if i can build a home for two families?”

Why build enough for myself and my family and be content, when I can extort another family for survival to help me cut costs and provide me a passive income for the rest of time?

Real fucking altruistic.. 🙄

knatschus ,

Extort lol. Some people want to stay at the same place forever those buy, some want to be flexible and rent. Money is used as an exchange for provided work.

I dislike capitalism and greed aswell but you are something else my dude.

But yeah keep dragging allies in the mud my father is basicly a oil company

Clent ,

People who think they are allies but are actually part of the problem are worse than those who do not pretend. Those who pretend will expect their carve out to be protected.

FrowingFostek ,

Why does this feel you’re purity testing people on Lemmy? Lol

Clent ,

There is no gray line. People who exploit others via landlording only vary in how much property they own.

There is no nuance. One either does or does not lord over land. Every landlord justifies their participation in their own way.

No one is born a landlord. It’s a choice.

No one is born a landlord sympathizer. It’s a choice.

Being an ally requires one avoid specific choices. At any time one can sell their property and become an ally.

Those claiming their situation is an exception are the ones arguing for purity.

knatschus ,

I bet you have money in your wallet. A true communist would already live without it! See you in the line at the wall i guess May the ones who shoots have good aim

Clent ,

I see. You’re confused. We’re talking about landlords not communism.

Somehow this confusion is my fault. That’s precious.

Viking_Hippie ,

Some people want to stay at the same place forever those buy, some want to be flexible and rent

Yeah, that’s bullshit. It’s a MUCH better deal to buy than to rent and everyone knows it. Most of us just don’t have enough money at once or a high enough income to be granted the requisite loans.

In the two decades plus change since I moved from home, I’ve paid as much in rent as someone richer would have paid to own a house several times the size of my apartment in the same neighborhood. I’ve paid as much but I don’t get to own what I paid for and even generate passive wealth that I could pass down to later generations if I had kids.

TL;DR: if you’re renting, you’re getting a bad deal and so is your kids and their kids and their kids and…

usualsuspect191 ,

It’s still a better deal to rent on shorter timescales.

I’d have to run the math again but because of things like realtor/legal fees (speaking of leeches, realtors are the absolute worst) last I checked it was in the 2-3 years range where renting made more sense than buying. That depends on the market too of course. Any significant repair costs or depreciation in that time makes the break-even point a bit longer, shorter if the value goes up enough.

Viking_Hippie ,

Yeah, the whole moving every 3 years or less? That’s ALSO something that most people can’t afford.

You’re sounding like you’re very much arguing from a place of privilege that you aren’t conscious of. And no, realtors aren’t the worst leeches, that’s still landlords.

JCreazy ,

I knew a guy that said he would never buy a house and preferred renting because he didn’t want to mow and other maintenance.

Guy_Fieris_Hair ,

Proper** landlording is not passive income. It took work, time, and investment into building the structure. Then you have to maintain and repair it. The majority of landlords view it as a get rich quick situation and join the ridiculous market, but if they charge reasonable prices, the mortgage, interest, repair, and maintenance of a home does cost money. And then your own time if you do the repairs yourself or pay someone, the overhead of taxes, insurance, paperwork. Those things cost money. Some of it is paid by paying the mortgage down and creating equity, but some of it has to be built into the rent.

However, some, if not most landlords don’t look at the investment into the equity, they look at the money in their pocket after their mortgage payment, maintenance, and costs every month. They want (sometimes need) their profit now, not in 20 years when they sell it and make millions. That’s why landlording should be viewed as an investment, not a job. It as a side gig works, then in 20 years you cash out.

These giant corporations that have made a ridiculous industry of buying all the homes and property in small towns and charging exorbant prices should be hanged.

Guy_Fieris_Hair ,

So, not defending the land lord here, but, what if his dad built and maintained the buildings for years, but now he’s like 65 and doesn’t really want/or is able to do the work himself so he pays someone else, he is now a piece of shit land lord? I mean, he probably in that scenario doesn’t have a retirement, so the return on his investment (profit after costs) is his retirement. He could sell them, and make a profit, but the next landlord would just up rents so he isn’t eating those costs.

If he jacks up rents to retire fat and happy after his maintenance costs then he’s kinda a dick but if costs stay the same it shouldn’t matter who does what work.

I guess I say all this because I am a landlord of a small complex. I bust ass and do all tge work myself keeping rent lower than anyone else I’m town. We rent to seniors that live on fixed incomes and these people have been our tenants so long they are family. They came to my wedding, they came to our baby shower. I will not price them out of a place to live. But the truth is, I am getting tired. I already work two other jobs and this place needed a lot of work when we bought it so he have remodeled most of them. But I am about done. We have had offers to buy in recent years. A few of them would have made 2 million in profit, but half our tenants would be homeless.

Some of our tenants are widowed elderly women that can’t afford or maintain a whole household on their own. They are legitimately there for the maintenance, not just the place to live.

hellothere ,

I have sympathy for your position, it sounds like you’re trying to do the best you can for vulnerable people in a capitalist system.

Under this system the only way you can retire is to have an income unrelated to work. Because we can’t remove ourselves from that system, one day you’ll have a choice to make. It may be worth exploring novel options like transferring ownership to the tenants, having rent increase limits written in to the contract for sale, etc, but the practicality of these are likely very limited.

This is why capitalism is so pervasive, because the best financial decision you can make is the one which furthers exploitation.

There isn’t really a good option tbh.

Zorque ,

Landlord and building manager are two different things. A single person can do both, but they are wholly different aspects. He did work as a manager, but not as a landlord.

theneverfox ,
@theneverfox@pawb.social avatar

If you own a company, that’s not a job. If you are also the CEO and bring in half of the work/sales personally, that’s obviously a job. The same person could be both, we all wear many hats, but even if you choose to call yourself the owner over CEO the CEO part is the job, the owner title is not a job

Collecting rent isn’t a job. Maintenance is a job, and building is certainly a job.

If your dad is still doing maintenance, that’s work. If not, I’d say he’s retired, and renting out homes isn’t the problem here

In this context, landlord means someone whose “career” is just owning a bunch of property. Unless your dad is a developer and “built” a bunch of homes by hiring a bunch of people and taking the profits, he doesn’t deserve to be called a landlord, even if the term has been watered down

He rents out a room/house, after literally building it… That doesn’t define him in the same way, he’s not the problem and he shouldn’t be painted with the same brush

rambling_lunatic ,

I think in this sense it is a little like arguing with petty bourgeois folks who defend capitalism by insisting that they do in fact work. Yeah, you do, but you don’t have to be an owner extracting profit from other people to do that.

0x01 ,

Not really, they’re maintaining their asset, just like washing your own clothes isn’t a job you get paid for, keeping your house in working condition isn’t

alcoholicorn ,

Washing clothes and building maintenance absolutely is labor.

Rent is far, far higher than the cost of building maintenance though.

usualsuspect191 ,

Washing the clothes would be a job if you were renting the clothes out.

Chriszz , (edited )

The problem in my experience is that these landlords cut cost as much as possible, doing the bare minimum to rake in as much as possible. Barely maintaining shit, late maintenance, crappy construction even if it looks nice, nickel and diming left and right. It’s like this at every apt I’ve been at.

FiniteBanjo , to aboringdystopia in 93 Year Old Woman Arrested for Resisting Eviction

Just chiming in, she was arrested in 2017 and spent two nights in jail before being released by a judge, her charges were dropped and she received donations and support from the local community for her new living arrangements.

No idea what happened to her after that.

Also unclear why she was in this financial situation to begin with, there are several housing and medical care programs from both state and federal that could have covered this $500 monthly expense.

Wrench ,

Depends on if she was mentally competent or had competent representation looking out for her.

It’s extremely easy for a 93 YO to fall between the cracks, even with loving family trying to look out for you, because there’s an army of predators looking to take advantage of the feeble elderly, plus the habits of individuality that many elderly cling to instead of asking for help.

asteriskeverything , (edited )

And even if she had someone mentally competent, the system can be so convoluted it is easy to miss benefits you qualify for OR, and this is a big one no one talks about, have trouble getting approved for these things in a timely manner that is actually help when they need it. Sorry, it might take 6-24mo for you to get that help.

VirtualOdour ,

It takes a lot of human labour to process those applications and organize resources, just being able to get through to someone on the phone to talk about it is hard enough then you have to explain your situation which for someone elderly or with mental health considerations can be difficult, then the call gets passes to someone with more specialist knowledge or authority which again takes, time normally days, and that’s assuming you know what you need and where to ask.

Having someone that actually knows all about the options available and who can make early assessments then-and-there would be a life saver for so many of the most at risk. With ai that’s very possible, obviously not current gen LLMs but as we perfect specialized models with verification and tasking steps they’ll get ever more useful for getting people the help and access to resources they need.

teft , to aboringdystopia in giving out food bags to employees
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

A place I worked for always had “turkey drives” for the poorer families around thanksgiving. I wasn’t popular because i would ask why we as a company can’t pay every employee enough to cover a turkey but i never got an answer.

Fiivemacs ,

I ask the same shit whenever giant multi billion dollar companies canvass and harass me for money to feed the poor…

Like bitch, your company made more money then every customer currently in here for 5 minutes, then we collectively see in a year. They can fucking pay for it.

GregorGizeh ,

Goes for tipping too. Fuck you, pay fair. Dont ask me to support your staff with charity.

radicalautonomy ,
@radicalautonomy@lemmy.world avatar

Fair enough, but still…the moment you order food from a server that doesn’t get paid a fair wage is the moment you are culpable. If you are eating out at a tipping establishment, not tipping is a dick move.

By all means, advocate for living wages for servers and vote for candidates who will try to do something about it…I certainly do. But make your own meals at home if you aren’t going to tip.

GregorGizeh ,

I cant remember the last time I went to an actual restaurant, that shit is way too expensive these days. I also dont live in America, and we have only a rudimentary tipping culture in comparison, but it is being pushed more and more because it’s cheaper for the bosses. And I hate it.

radicalautonomy ,
@radicalautonomy@lemmy.world avatar

Gotcha. And yeah, all I know is US restaurants. If this shit is becoming the norm where you are, then hell yeah, let the restaurant owners have a piece of your mind and fuck-all from your wallet.

radicalautonomy , (edited )
@radicalautonomy@lemmy.world avatar

Not only do they guilt you into contributing to their charity of choice, but the company also 1) get to be the ones whose name is attached to those donations, 2) gets a tax break as a result, and 3) talks themself up on their website about how much they donated to the cause.

I learned something today about how businesses can’t actually claim point-of-sale charitable donations that show on a receipt for a tax write-off. Also, I learned about how no one can claim tax write-off for cash donations into a charity jar.

Kid_Thunder ,

In the US they do not get a tax break for that unless they break the law. You can however take a tax deduction for it.

usualsuspect191 ,

Seriously?? I’ve only ever seen turkey drives as a charitable thing for the community, not internal to a company. Craziness

dan1101 , to mildlyinfuriating in I was handed this lovely flyer while grocery shopping

Some people have too much free time and too few brain cells.

DoctorWhookah ,

All that mask wearing in their youth killed those cells.

tills13 ,

And not enough access to credible sources

grue ,

No, they’ve got plenty of access. They just don’t want to be exposed to anything that challenges their indoctrination.

sep ,

While that may be true. The filter bubble is also a very real thing.
Social media sites earn their money by your attention. And try to keep it as long as possible, with all the tricks in the books, and some they invented.
So when someone belives something. They search about it. And belive they have done research. When they find what the site belive keeps them engaged.

Want to know more? sorry, been playing to much helldivers 2. ;) www.ted.com/…/how_to_pop_our_filter_bubbles

The science is not conclusive tho. Perhaps i am in a bubble… messes with the head…

FordBeeblebrox ,

Some have medical degrees and will actively ignore anything that doesn’t fit with the Jeebus.

Religion and capitalism will be the legacy humans leave behind and it’s a shit one

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Or rather too much access to too many non-credible sources.

Meaning, we need to remove shit like Twitter from the net already.

dutchkimble ,

And too many QR codes

NewNewAccount , to lemmyshitpost in Getting old sucks

I was older than 30 when those memes came around.

Take me back to Star Wars Kid, Badger Badger Badger and Candlejack. Those were th

Rai ,

Mr T Candlejack ate my balls

Or Duckroll, the inspiration for Rickro

spicytuna62 ,
@spicytuna62@lemmy.world avatar

Perhaps the thing from that time that aged like the finest of wines was “LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE.” Cara was at least a solid decade ahead of her time.

Hasherm0n ,

“my spoon is too big”

m.youtube.com/watch?v=W7JyjZI3LUM

BreadOven ,

My anus is bleeding.

trumpetmouth ,

I am the Queen of France!

Siegfried ,

This feels like watching Rick and morty’s interdimensional cable

NegativeInf ,

Oh no! How did he post the comment after Candlejack got hi-

FartsWithAnAccent ,
@FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io avatar

Oh shit, there's a sni

SpruceBringsteen ,

That’s a lucky era of memes that will likely survive for awhile. Finding old stuff from albinoblacksheep or the like isn’t too hard.

I’m sad about all the YoutubeHaiku bullshit that didn’t survive long because of copywrite strikes and all. I look at old saved playlists and it’s all deleted stuff.

nicknonya ,
@nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Those were th

Damn they were so old they died right then and there

Sam_Bass , to lemmyshitpost in Reefer Madness

There’s a methhead to her madness

Viking_Hippie ,
Kefass , to lemmyshitpost in Want to lose weight? Poverty can help!

It’s often cheaper to buy fastfood than healthy food

Gigan ,
@Gigan@lemmy.world avatar

I wouldn’t say cheaper, but it’s definitely easier.

CaptainSpaceman ,

If time is money, than fastfood and processed foods are way cheaper than healthy options that require preparing and cleaning of pots/pans etc

Kusimulkku ,

Stopping to buy fast food vs making food in one go for several days would make the difference a lot smaller. If you order online, especially if you have a recurring order, then fast food again gains a lot.

Imgonnatrythis ,

Fast food implies prepared food. What healthy prepared food are you thinking of? It’s generally much cheaper. Ops post makes no sense. Poverty is not inversely proportional to weight at all

Mercival ,

It is a fair point, being obese and poor can definitely be a a horrific feedback loop to get out of.

In developed countries anyways, you don’t really see it in places where food is scarce, of course.

stoy ,

This is just wrong, the tiny island nation of Nauru have a huge obesity problem as the only food they can get in any decent quantity are preprocessed food with very low nutritional value.

driving_crooner ,
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

Jamie Oliver’s War on Nuggets: youtu.be/V-a9VDIbZCU

IWantToFuckSpez ,

You can still lose weight if you eat unhealthy shit. Like I know people that eat McDonald’s everyday yet they ain’t fat. While you don’t get all the necessary nutrients from fast food being unhealthy but not overweight is still better than being fat.

Kase ,

being unhealthy but not overweight is still better than being fat.

Why do you say that? I guess that “unhealthy” isn’t very specific and could mean a lot of things. But health issues that are caused by malnutrition can certainly be worse than being fat. It just depends on the individual situation, I would think.

Alenalda ,

I don’t know about that. A combo meal at McDonald’s is inching closer to 15$ in a lot of places. You can go down to the grocery store and get a good amount of food for that much. Healthy doesn’t necessarily mean only the expensive organic, free range, non GMO whatever foods are worth eating.

Daxtron2 ,

It’s more than just the monetary investment though. It’s time and energy spent creating healthy meals, that if you’re working 12-14 hr days just becomes too much to handle.

Alenalda ,

It takes roughly 5 min and 1$ to scramble up a few eggs. It doesn’t need to take an hour to prepare a decent affordable meal at home.

lady_maria ,
@lady_maria@lemmy.world avatar

It takes much more effort to make a healthy well-rounded meal than just scrambling up “a few eggs”. I’m happy you have enough time, energy, and physical ability to spend an hour making dinner, but a lot of people don’t.

Some have multiple jobs, kids, disabilities, ect. Others live in food deserts where it’s impossible—or at least very difficult—to find cheap, healthy food. Not to mention the people who were never taught how to cook, and would have to spend even more time, energy, (and very possibly wasted food) on learning how.

This is coming from someone who can and does cook cheap, healthy meals all of the time.

Alenalda ,

I’m not claiming to spend an hour making dinner. I haven’t ate fast food in a year mainly because it takes 20min waiting in line and costs way too much for junk unhealthy food. I often eat just scrambled eggs for meals because it is fast and easy. You sure as hell aren’t getting a balanced meal at a fast food chain. You can make excuses for eating that unhealthy junk all you want.

lady_maria ,
@lady_maria@lemmy.world avatar

Gee, straw man, you somehow wrote an entire paragraph while ignoring literally all of my points 👍

Alenalda ,

The points keep changing. Went from cheaper to buy fast food to takes more effort to make food to it needs to be well rounded. The goal posts keep moving. It’s been my experience that it takes less time and money to make a healthy meal at home. I don’t know why that’s a problem to you.

lady_maria ,
@lady_maria@lemmy.world avatar

The fact that I had several points (in a single comment, mind you) does not mean that they keep changing. I suggest you revisit what moving goalposts actually means.

It’s been my experience that it takes less time and money to make a healthy meal at home. I don’t know why that’s a problem to you.

That’s been my experience, too. Like I’ve already said, I frequently cook cheap, healthy meals at home. I rarely eat fast food.

But my original points aren’t centered around my—or your—personal experience; we’re not the only two people who exist. Everyone has varying degrees of resources and ability.

Alenalda ,

My comments are in reply to it’s cheeper to buy fast food than healthy food. I pointed out that’s not always the case. I’m not the one using the disabled as a strawman to attack anyone’s point.

lady_maria ,
@lady_maria@lemmy.world avatar

TIL that merely mentioning the struggles and limitations that disabled people face—as a disabled person—within a seemingly cordial discussion about peoples’ access and ability to cook healthy meals means I’m literally ATTACKING the point of the person I’m replying to.

Alenalda ,

Please discuss that under a comment relating to the poor overworked disabled peoples access to food. The topic at hand was is it cheaper to buy fast food or healthy food before you railroaded it. Blocked.

scottywh ,

I’m about to eat my fourth or fifth McDonald’s free double cheeseburger so far of this month just because someone on the local baseball team got a double and they give away a free one in the app to anyone who claims it in the state the next day.

With promotions and deals (which are pretty much always going on) it’s actually tough to get cheaper than eating fast food a lot of the time.

idunnololz ,
@idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

That and food deserts. A lot of poor places in the US lack easy access to nutritious food.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_desert

Kusimulkku ,

I’d be surprised if that was actually true. I think what really matters is how much time and effort making your own food takes vs the speed and simplicity of buying fast food.

Price, time and effort can be minimized by making a large amount of the food in one guy that you eat for some days, but apparently some people hate eating the same food two (or more) days in a row, which, okay(?), I guess that’s one reason not to do it.

JusticeForPorygon , to lemmyshitpost in Germans: what genocide?
@JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world avatar
Siegfried ,

Well, he is right, its mass murdering, but not genocide.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Wait until we find his 2012 Twitter handle calling everyone but Titans unnecessary

desktop_user ,

If I randomly kill all humans it would be genocide. I absolutely hate the common usage of the word, but killing all humans definitely would be genocide.

yetAnotherUser ,

Killing 50% of any one people is genocide, right? For example, the Nazis killed up to 50% of European Romani people and it is classified as a genocide.

Let’s assume killing 50% of n peoples is genocide.

Since killing 50% of n peoples is genocide, killing 50% of n+1 peoples must also be genocide, else a number N would exist such that killing 50% of N - 1 peoples is genocide but killing 50% of N peoples is not. The existence of such a number N would be quite contradictory, as it would imply one could undo genocide by killing more people. Additionally, if one were to first kill 50% of N - 1 people and then kill 50% of one more people some time later, both events would be classified as genocide, since killing 50% of one people is assumed to be genocide.

Therefore, Thanos did in fact commit genocide.

rottingleaf ,

It’s still genocide if somebody survives. Otherwise Holocaust wouldn’t be a genocide.

jkrtn ,

Israel: [Murdering journalists and foreign aid workers] see? It’s not only Palestinians, it’s random.

Miaou , to programmer_humor in Has this ever happened to you?

If your customer has write access to a production system, I’m not sure they’re the most irresponsible here.

EvolvedTurtle ,

I mean Personally if I was a client I would want access to the system/service I was paying for directly

But I guess I’m alsotech literate enough to know not to fuck with it

perviouslyiner , to programmer_humor in Daylight saving creator left the chat....
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