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Hellstormy , to lemmyshitpost in A time-honored tradition
@Hellstormy@lemmy.world avatar

Sometimes I have even thrown it out with the tupperware because it’s gotten so bad that opening that container would probably poison everything in a 100m radius.

MaxVoltage ,
@MaxVoltage@lemmy.world avatar

in my experience its best to ooen those into the compost directly

MycelialMass ,

You can freeze the bad ones (mark it as bad in case you forget about it) then dump it as one big block and take the trash out before it thaws.

CaptnNMorgan ,

Genius

LillyPip ,

If you wait long enough, it will throw itself away.

Ghostalmedia , to lemmyshitpost in They hated him, for he spoke the truth
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

Attend a gamblers anonymous meeting and you’ll meet a lot of people who have lost more than 100%

MacNCheezus OP ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

That’s because they were gambling with other people’s money.

If you only bet with what you can afford to lose, that’s never going to happen.

maniclucky ,

Woof that slope is slippery. The trick is measuring what you can afford, and a lot of people aren’t great at measuring that.

MacNCheezus OP ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

Yeah, well, that’s their problem, isn’t it.

MaoZedongers ,

See if I only bet 90% of every paycheck I still have 10% left over for lottery tickets

If I lose the 90%, I just gotta win the lottery…

MacNCheezus , to lemmyshitpost in This
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

I know I’ll probably get downvoted for saying this, but the amount of hate he got for doing this was about as unwarranted as Obama’s white suit episode.

There was a government shutdown and the White House catering staff was on unpaid leave. And he was hosting a football team, not some delegation of international politicians. He basically did what anyone else would do if they have an unexpected visit and no food in the house. His guests had no complaints either, only the press hated it.

LodeMike OP ,

It’s kinda funny. And don’t you mean tan suit?

MacNCheezus ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

Yes, that’s what I meant.

hperrin ,

Maybe he could have gotten restaurant food instead of fast food. Just because they’re a football team doesn’t mean they don’t appreciate good food.

MacNCheezus ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

It was a college football team. Basically a bunch of dudes in the early 20s. You think they care about fine dining?

groupofcrows ,

Im not going to bother looking for it but there are videos of the players coming into the room and one of them is heard asking if this was a joke/real. They were dressed up for fine dining at a respected instituition, not a family BBQ at the park.

hperrin ,

At the White House? Yes. Like, literally, are you a fucking dumbass? How hard in the head were you hit as a child? Or are you just the trashiest of trailer trash that’s ever existed?

NightAuthor ,

But also… the picture.

He basically did a McBang.

TrickDacy ,

I don’t think anyone would really even remember if he hadn’t written hAmBeRdEr. No one was talking for weeks about how this incident clearly made him an inappropriate president. We laughed and moved on for the most part. Not remotely the same as the tan suit “incident”.

eran_morad ,

Obama looked fly in the tan suit, this just looks fucking awful. Would you serve this shit to your guests?

7u5k3n ,

TAN SUIT!!! How unamerican. The next thing you’re going to tell me is that he puts Dijon mustard on his hot dogs…

/s

Coreidan ,

You’d have to be a serious degenerate to go out of your way to eat a hot dog and not bother to put Dijon mustard on it.

cashews_best_nut ,

It’s that the suit people shat on him for? It looks good. I don’t get wtf problem is with people.

Wtf America?

eran_morad ,

It’s because republicans are racist.

MacNCheezus , (edited )
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

It wasn’t the fact that it looked good on him that he got crap for, it was the question whether it was appropriate for the occasion (a press conference discussing the potential escalation of military strikes in Syria).

Tradition demands that you wear a dark suit for something as serious as discussing the sacrifice of other people’s lives. A tan suit has more of a lighthearted vibe and is therefore something you’d wear to a festivity, not when discussing drone strikes.

en.wikipedia.org/…/Barack_Obama_tan_suit_controve…

Bonehead ,

He basically did what anyone else would do if they have an unexpected visit and no food in the house.

And this would be understandable if he were a middle class housewife. But this is the US president, during a shutdown caused by Trump. There should have been any number of restaurants that would have dropped everything to fill an order for the White House. This entire episode was just an embarrassment.

stevehobbes ,

A middle class family couldn’t afford this much McDonald’s. They’d also have more taste and class than to serve this.

Agreed they could call many restaurants that offer catering. Or, he, his wife, or any of his adult children could have made a home cooked meal for stellar optics instead of this travesty.

GiuseppeAndTheYeti ,

Fat fucking chance I’m eating a home cooked meal made by Melania, Ivanka, Don Jr., and Eric. It would be fucking boiled potatoes, plain canned corn and green beans, and overcooked New York strip steaks.

stevehobbes ,

😂 and so much ketchup. A1 is too spicy.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Bold of you to think they know how to boil water or use a can opener.

MacNCheezus ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

But he looks so proud of himself. Can you really hate him for that?

Bonehead ,

Yes. And specifically for that exact reason.

IMongoose ,

My biggest problem with this is that he didn’t have any Taco Bell.

Buffaloaf ,

He could’ve just as easily hired someone to cater and make good food, instead he spent $5000 on fast food because he thinks that’s what college football players prefer.

Also, Trump was the reason for the government shutdown because he wanted funding for his bullshit border wall.

Nightwind ,

Yeah you’ll get downvoted, because spending 5k on cold hamburgers from McDonald’s ist not something anybody would do. It’s something an idiot would do. Everyone with two brain cells would have started calling large restaurants or catering providers and ask them if they can make something happen.

themeatbridge ,

Any caterer or restaurant in the DC Metro area would have provided $5000 worth of food for the publicity alone.

Coreidan ,

lol imagine thinking that wearing a tan suit and serving people cold ass McDonald’s is equivalent.

You trumpers try way too hard to find equivalencies when the easier option is to just admit what a fuck bag the dude is. He isn’t worth defending ffs.

MacNCheezus ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

I’m not even a Trumper, I don’t care if he’s re-elected or not, but he certainly wasn’t as terrible a president as everyone says. Most of the drama was just the media making flies into elephants.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

The families of the million Americans who died of COVID might disagree about those deaths being flies.

MacNCheezus ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

More people died of COVID while Biden was in office than on Trump’s watch.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, because Trump and his people are anti-vaxxers who have convinced their legions to never vaccinate or wear a mask and they keep dying. And Biden has never suggested a bleach cure.

MacNCheezus ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

Trump supported the vaccine you idiot. It was the Democrats who were against it while he was in office, and then promptly wanted to make the very same vaccine mandatory as soon as Biden took over.

nbcnews.com/…/harrris-vaccine-i-would-not-trust-d…

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Sorry, stopped reading at the insult. I have no interest in Reddit-style behavior. If you want to talk to me with the courtesy I have afforded you, I will go back and read the rest of your post.

I have a feeling this will be replied to with another insult.

MacNCheezus ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

Sorry, stopped reading at the insult.

“I’m going to ignore your source because you used a bad word” is probably the most Reddit thing I’ve seen here in a while.

I have a feeling this will be replied to with another insult.

You attacked me without provocation, why would I do you the favor of doing what you want from me?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I said nothing about a bad word. I said insult. Why are you being dishonest about what I said?

I also did not attack you. This is our entire conversation:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/60f15410-abe4-4e75-af7b-caead92331c0.png

Where is the attack? Because as far as I can see, I criticized Trump and then you called me an idiot.

I would like you to point out where I supposedly attacked you, please.

MacNCheezus ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

I didn’t call you an idiot for criticizing Trump, I called you an idiot for bringing it up as a criticism against Trump even though far more people died of it under Biden’s watch.

There’s a subtle difference here, can you see it?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I really don’t care why you insulted me. There was no appropriate reason for the insult.

And you didn’t show me where I attacked you. Did I attack you? If so, please quote the attack. I have already given you a clear opportunity.

MacNCheezus ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

It wasn’t as much an attack on me personally as you just saying something spectacularly stupid.

I’m sorry for calling you an idiot. I should have said “mentally challenged” instead.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Okay, I’m not going to talk to you anymore. You keep insulting me and you told a silly lie when you said I attacked you.

Goodbye. I’m sure you will use this opportunity for a third insult.

MacNCheezus ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

I appreciate you for being a good sport and not banning me because of our disagreement, and I hope you have a very nice rest of your day.

Chozo , to mildlyinfuriating in Google Disabling Phone 2 Factor?

I don't get this. Is this an SMS-based 2FA? If so, I'm not sure that Google has any ability to block that. Your carrier might, though, but that wouldn't be controlled by your device's OS. The option being greyed out on a third-party site has little to do with anything happening locally on your device.

If this is a push-based 2FA, then... yeah, you wiped the device, along with any tokens previously stored on it. This is also why any time you set up 2FA on any service, almost all of them warn you like a million times "If you lose or transfer your device before disabling 2FA, you will lose access to your account" before you complete the process.

Extrasvhx9he ,

I can swear google gives you 10 otps to print out when enabling 2fa as well. Also if using totp, backing up your seed would also be an option

orclev ,

This is different. This is something new google is rolling out. This isn’t SMS and it isn’t TOTP. Google is opting people into push based authentication based solely on them having an android phone associated with their account whether they’re still using that phone or not. Anyone not already using TOTP or WebAuthN should really add those to their accounts before Google decides to “help” you by opting you into their new proprietary 2FA.

grue ,

Goddamnit. Between this, the KDE Connect thing, and the Youtube anti-adblocker bullshit, I really need to quit procrastinating and de-Google already.

Infernal_pizza ,
@Infernal_pizza@lemmy.world avatar

Anyone know what the best alternatives to gmail are? I’ve heard mixed things about proton mail and I’m not aware of many others

doctorcrimson OP , (edited )

Outside of a private server, I’ve been using Yahoo Mail for like 23 years tbh

doctorcrimson OP , (edited )

The problem is they are turning OFF the SMS and instead sending a special dialogue to a nonexistent device for the user to hit a prompt. The device was never used, though, and it was never set up for 2FA. My default has always been SMS which they are now disabling.

Chozo , (edited )

Deprecating SMS authentication is a good thing, in all honesty. SMS is not a secure form of data transfer, and is trivially intercepted. You can buy and setup an illegal Stingray device relatively easily, and capture basically all wireless data from a phone within range.

That said, if the device was truly never used for 2FA, then there wouldn't be any push-based 2FA on the account to begin with. Unless there's another device that's been authenticated with your account somewhere, like an old phone. In which case, that's where your login requests are being pushed to. That's a setting that can only be enabled by successfully authenticating with a device at least once in the past.

If there was never any other authenticated device, then that setting on your account isn't there. Enabling that feature is a two-step process, and step 1 involves configuration on a local device before it can be enabled remotely on your account.

doctorcrimson OP ,

SMS could potentially be a secure form of Data Transfer if companies weren’t allowed by limp dinosaur legislators to gut your phone for any useable data with a simple app, but yeah I can see how it’s current state is lackluster.

Chozo ,

You’re wrong, btw, the Google Prompts feature is Default and cannot be turned off.

Only if there's a previously-authenticated device. That setting can't be enabled without a key, and one of the required keys is produced locally by a logged-in device (which is why your device is trusted to stay logged in indefinitely). If enabled without a key, it's nonfunctional and should error itself out and revert to a disabled state.

If that somehow hasn't happened (which, in all honesty, would be very surprising to learn) and the setting is enabled on your account, then that'd be something you'd need to submit a request to Google to have fixed, otherwise you have zero recovery on that account.

Are you a thousand percent sure you've never had any other device logged into that Google account? When you attempt to log in, it should show you the device name it's sending the request to. For instance, when I log into my Gmail from an Incognito window right now, it says to check my Pixel 6 Pro. What's it saying for you?

doctorcrimson OP ,

No, I’m telling you, it’s on by default when you purchase a Google Device. It doesn’t need to be set up.

Chozo ,

What device does it say it's sending the request to?

doctorcrimson OP ,

A device. The fact that any device is getting a google prompt and it cannot be disabled is the issue.

Chozo ,

Right. I think you can see where I'm going with this. The fact that you're being dodgy with the question is making me question your motives with this post.

So, what device? You don't have to tell me the name, but describe it to me. Is it the device that you flashed a new OS onto?

doctorcrimson OP ,

It’s not constructive to answer your question instead of explain the situation to you for the 8th time. There is only one device and it was wiped and can never be recovered, not even by restoring the OS, but the Google Prompt is still the default option forever now. I found this mildly infuriating.

The best solution is to use something like Google Auth since only the SMS is being phased out. Do you understand now or de we need to repeat this again and again?

Chozo ,

So, when you said "The device has never existed", you realize how that was a bit misleading, right? The way you've been presenting this situation would suggest that Google enabled 2FA in an impossible manner.

The device existed. You ignored the warnings and wiped the device before transferring your authentication elsewhere. There's plenty of things to be critical of Google over, but flagrant user error like this isn't one of them.

doctorcrimson OP ,

There were no warnings, the device was not set up for 2FA, it’s just shitty design!

Chozo ,

The device was not set up for 2FA

Clearly, it was.

brianorca ,

The SMS vulnerability is not because of your apps. It’s because of the LTE protocol itself. It can be intercepted or redirected without touching your phone.

eric5949 , to nostupidquestions in Will This AI Go to Heaven?

This should be in memes tbh.

Oneser , to lemmyshitpost in Who asked fallacy

Not sure I’m ready for suicide memes.

CluckN ,

But this one has an anime girl?

gamermanh , to lemmyshitpost in In case some of y'all are still looking for a job
@gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Oh shit, at long last a job opening I’m fucking qualified for!

  1. I’m chill. Whiskeys more my jam but I’ll drink whatever.
  2. Fuckin love industrial.
  3. I’m so down to do crimes in Japan that ive already done quite a few
MacNCheezus OP ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

In that case, what’s a few more then?

TseseJuer ,

gg2ez

Zink ,

I read #3 in Jeff Gerstmann’s voice.

GarlicToast , to science_memes in It is very therapeutic to garden, though.

It may be true for ‘soldier’ plants. However there are thousands of plant species that can’t be both efficiently mass produced and shipped while still being of good quality. So you get a bad produce, very costly produce or both.

I can’t afford fresh Basil leaves, I maintained a plant in my kitchen in some of the apartments I lived in. The current one doesn’t have enough sun. It took 10 minutes of work to arrange and emptying left over water.

Also, if you never tasted cherry tomatoes straight from the plant you don’t what you are missing, and how shity is the produce in the market.

Aux ,

It sounds like you live in the US or something. Tomatoes from the market should be freshly picked overnight to be sold early in the morning. There’s literally no difference.

GarlicToast ,

I don’t live in the USA.

I just don’t live near a tomatoes field, however, it’s not just time, perfectly ripe tomatoes don’t survive transportation well. So mass production of tomatoes requires the picking of less ripe fruit.

Aux ,

I used to grow tomatoes myself and then transport them 80km away to my family. No issues there. They can survive a lot, especially if you have a refrigerated truck.

GarlicToast ,

I worked a few summers on a commercial organic farm and for many years in a small family plot. Maybe we are talking about different scales of transportation, quality control or different species of tomatoes.

Karyoplasma ,

I can’t afford fresh Basil leaves, I maintained a plant in my kitchen in some of the apartments I lived in. The current one doesn’t have enough sun. It took 10 minutes of work to arrange and emptying left over water.

The basil plants you buy in grocery stores are designed to die after a while. It’s not lack of sun or water, it’s because there are just way too many plants in the tiny pot and basil does not like to be root-bound. They basically strangle themselves to death.

You can easily propagate the plant through cuttings or you can separate the grown plants and re-pot them in smaller groups.

GarlicToast ,

Yea, I had Basil im some apartments. The current one has no sun at-all. Basil needs some. But when I bought plants my father guided me how to split them. Gifted my friends, don’t need more then one.

Swallowtail ,

I used to hate tomatoes, then I tried home-grown and just realized grocery store tomatoes often suck by comparison. There are many plants that don’t store/ship well so you either can’t get them in stores (e.g. pawpaws) or they taste bad because of short shelf life/bruising.

GarlicToast ,

TIL about pawpaws, thanks.

FiniteBanjo OP ,

Okay but how does this feed 8 Billion People?

GarlicToast ,

We don’t have a stable way to feed 8 billion people. The dependency on monoculture will cause many people to die under a changing climate.

Self gardening may:

  1. Increase food stability
  2. Increase access to nutrients rich food, GR while saving many, reduced food quality
  3. Be fucking tasty and cheap
enbyecho ,

Okay but how does this feed 8 Billion People?

I went back and looked at some of your posts on this thread because I was thinking “they can’t really be that unimaginative” and lo and behold, it’s true, you can be!

FiniteBanjo OP ,

Sorry for not having the time and energy to respond to hundreds of comments with full paragraphs, as if it would sway you anti-industrial advocates.

enbyecho ,

“Sorry for not being able to back up my assertions with facts, data, or even whole paragraphs”

FiniteBanjo OP ,

I forgive you, but you should really try to fix it.

enbyecho ,

It’s such a pity you aren’t able to engage in meaningful conversation.

Oh well.

FiniteBanjo OP ,

Yeah, despite my efforts you don’t seem capable.

snownyte , to lemmyshitpost in That's Life
@snownyte@kbin.social avatar

I always almost wonder what exactly villains do when they've failed to beat the superhero and didn't get caught. Now we know.

Ihnivid , to lemmyshitpost in I heard you wanted more
MacNCheezus OP ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

I mean, it’s not inciting hatred towards or promoting any negative stereotypes about Jews, is it?

Anamana ,

I agree, plus it’s a well made pun.

RogueBanana ,

If people call anything that mentions Jews as antisemitism then I think this counts

AstridWipenaugh ,

Antijemitism

ArcaneSlime ,

Jeantisemitism

MacNCheezus OP ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

If saying neutral or even nice things about Jews is antisemitism, I don’t want to live on this planet anymore.

FlorianSimon ,

It is not, relax

Halosheep ,

Sorry buddy, you said that word jew. That antisemitic.

altima_neo ,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

Reminds me of a friend of a friend who thought calling people Mexican was racist.

A_Very_Big_Fan ,

I think the use of this particular meme format implies that asking the question is ridiculous. So I think he’s saying it’s not.

Nakoichi , to memes in No thanks China!
@Nakoichi@hexbear.net avatar

Honestly way less afraid of China snooping on my data than US corporations. Only one of those groups regularly colludes with the FBI/CIA/other three letter agencies.

NuclearDolphin ,

only one can send armed goons to my house too

Num10ck , to lemmyshitpost in Why does this exist?

what would be the best temperature for fucking this?

Imgonnatrythis ,

37

Siegfried ,

Well, to be honest, that’s generally the best temperature to fuck anything… unless of course, you are one of those weirdos

Algaroth ,

What would be the best temperature to fuck something if you’re a weirdo?

Dulusa ,

Probably a weird one

Siegfried ,

Idk… it depends on your taste… I guess a dead body should slowly cool its temperature to the NTPC, so 24?

Algaroth ,

Dead body? That’s some normie shit. Gross.

lanolinoil ,
@lanolinoil@lemmy.world avatar

is this kelvin or BTUs?

MacNCheezus OP ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

Aight, imma head out. Enough Internet for today.

PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S ,
@PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

69

Sibbo , to memes in Capitalism really just reinvented sleeping outside SMH

Did you know that the weather in the mountains can change rapidly and without warnings?

MacNCheezus OP ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

Sorry, tarps and scaffolding is extra.

FoxFairline , to memes in Capitalism really just reinvented sleeping outside SMH
@FoxFairline@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

That was a joke Art installation AFAIK a decade back.

iso ,

Swiss here, no it isn’t. Here’s a (german) overview of a few “openair hotels”: stilpalast.ch/…/schlafen-unter-freiem-himmel-7144

nigh7y ,

So… you get room service? Like… how far do these workers stay from these rooms? Can they see you pee and take a dump? Where do you clean yourself? Do you get a refund if it rains? Is a simple hotel room somewhere nearby cheaper than this gourmet outdoor experience?

So many questions…

iso ,

little late but I kinda feel like responding:

The beds are outside in the countryside, usually on fields that are owned by the farmers who offer the “rooms”, so they’re a bit secluded.

You’re brought there by said farmer, he shows you around a bit, shows the fridge, etc. Then he leaves again.

If you need any room service, you just call up the farmer and he comes back to bring it.

No idea about toilets, but I think you’d also have to walk back to the farm. Same if it rains. Pretty much all of those openair hotels are ran by those kinds of farmers anyway, who were used to hotel guests as they’ve been offering “sleeping in the hey” kinda things since years, so for them, it’s pretty much the same, except being a little (sometimes a lot) further away and being logistically a bit more challenging.

Omega_Haxors ,

Life is slowly turning into a joke, and it’s becoming less funny every time it’s retold.

Potatos_are_not_friends , to lemmyshitpost in Uncanny

I can guarantee you that Oregon is absolutely not looking at Idaho.

Idaho chose to be antivax, then flooded Oregon/Washington hospitals for treatment.

Idaho chose to restrict women’s health services, then medical staff ran off to work in Oregon/Washington.

While OR/WA chose to increase hourly pay, Idaho chose against it.

The average Idaho citizen is absolutely worse off than their neighbor.

MacNCheezus OP ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

You must live in western Oregon then, because practically the entire eastern half of Oregon counties have approved ballot measures to secede from the state and join Idaho.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Idaho_movement

alliswell33 ,

It shows how much people are fueled by culture war nonsense in rural Oregon. I lived in one of the counties that voted to join Idaho and I never heard a single reason from anybody that was reasonable. It was all based on far right talking points about transing the kids or taking the guns. Meanwhile stuff like minimum wage that would actually affect everyone was just ignored.

MacNCheezus OP ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

When people vote for something I agree with = well informed, responsible, mature adults making the right choice.

When people vote for something I disagree with = braindead, deluded, immature savages falling victim to propaganda.

skulblaka ,
@skulblaka@startrek.website avatar

You don’t have to be stupid to fall victim to propaganda. It happens to literally everyone, every single living human being, in the modern age. We are being assaulted from all sides at all times with conflicting information.

MacNCheezus OP ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

Yes but that doesn’t mean everyone who votes a certain way is a victim of propaganda. Believe it or not, it’s actually possible to take in the arguments from both sides and then make up your mind independently of what those around you think.

Lord_ToRA ,
@Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world avatar

Are you saying you agree with the antivax, anti-womens rights, anti-lgbtq, anti-working class views?

MacNCheezus OP ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

I know a loaded question when I see one, and this one’s more loaded than a college freshman at a fraternity party.

Rolder , (edited )

But it’s all the reasons that rural Oregon wants to join Idaho?

Edit: Just read their website, it lists all those reasons, painful as it is to read besides: www.greateridaho.org/vote/

MacNCheezus OP ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

Seeing as though most of eastern Oregon is predominantly agricultural, I don’t see how anti-working class fits in the picture.

The remainder are just weaponized political buzzwords designed to inspire people to hatred. One could just as well say pro-liberty, pro-life, and pro-family.

Rolder ,

The anti working class might be a bit of the stretch, but for the rest, they say as much on their website. They don’t like:

Critical Race Theory, Males in Girls Sport Leagues, COVID rules, carbon caps, illegals (they mention illegals 3 times), abortion, and my favorite one “Fossil fuels being phased out”

MacNCheezus OP ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

Yeah, I mean that’s pretty much what all of these buzzwords stand for that you edited out of your other comment.

Rolder ,

I didn’t edit anything out, thanks. I only edited IN a link to the groups website, since it helps show how off the wall they are.

MacNCheezus OP ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

Oh, my bad, they’re in the comment one level above yours. Two to be exact if you include my response.

june ,

Yea idk, when I disagree with something it’s usually because I’ve given it the chance to convince me and it failed. And if I agree with something it’s because I’ve taken the time to understand it. It would be a bit weird to not feel like things I agree with are the right, or better, direction and that the things I disagree with are somehow broken in their reasoning.

MacNCheezus OP ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

If at first you don’t succeed, try, try again?

The_Lopen ,

I’m struggling to understand, are you suggesting you just keep thinking about it until you get a specific belief about it? How does that sound good?

MacNCheezus OP , (edited )
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

One day you’ll understand. Hopefully not too late.

The_Lopen ,

That’s supremely condescending. You could help me understand but instead you’re literally just doing what you say others do, assuming anyone who doesn’t believe the same way you do isn’t thinking about it long enough.

MacNCheezus OP ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

Well, let’s say I had a feeling that if I had answered “yes, basically”, then you might have given a condescending response instead. Apologies if I misjudged you.

And no, I’m not suggesting that everyone believe exactly as I do, merely that it is possible to change your beliefs regardless of evidence. Propaganda makes use of this all the time.

The_Lopen ,

Then it sounds like I also misjudged you. I probably saw a subtext that you were wanting the earlier commenter to believe the way you did and that they just hadn’t tried hard enough. Probably just a disconnect at the “if at first you don’t succeed” part.

MacNCheezus OP ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

I appreciate your candor and kindness.

The_Lopen ,

Life before death friend. Life is too short to die on a hill where I’m shown to be wrong.

Branch_Ranch ,

Eastern WA too. The conservatives want nothing to do with the west side.

MacNCheezus OP ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

I was hoping someone would mention it because I happen to have the perfect meme for this.

https://lemmy.today/pictrs/image/92d22696-de14-43e5-a0e2-6832bdfd1a7f.jpeg

Branch_Ranch ,

🤣

Rolder ,

Oregon/Washington getting all the educated medical personnel sounds like a great deal for them

june ,

It is and I’m glad to be here right now.

Artyom ,

Could you explain that to the eastern half of Oregon that unironically suggested switching to become part of Idaho about a year ago?

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