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michdavelz , to linux in Linux File System

Is it just me, or are the definitions for /sys and /proc mixed up?

Sonotsugipaa ,
@Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Nah, it’s just that /proc is incorrect - it contains information about running processes, as well as kernel data structures as visible by the process reading them.

BananaTrifleViolin ,

No I thinks is basically right although could be better worded maybe

/sys is virtual file structure for kernel system info

/proc is virtual file structure of kernel process info

My understanding is /proc came first but was abused/free for all and started being used for all sorts of non standard/process kernel access. So /sys was created with stricter rules to make it more standardised.

Bishma , to programmerhumor in Pure evil
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Be sure to use the image upload field too

https://i.postimg.cc/L43nFHcV/image.png

calebegg OP ,

How do I do that? Very new to lemmy. Using Boost. Thanks in advance!

Bishma ,
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I don’t think Lemmy supports media fields in comments (though I’ve only skimmed the API, I could be wrong) just on posts. I usually use Postimages for hosting images for comments.

Sternburgexport , to lemmyshitpost in This took me a great deal of strength to publicly acknowledge

It’s ok, this a safe space.

smeg , to science_memes in i will never understand scientific fraud

That photo of Richard Eckert looks like the Leo reaction image; like he’s thinking ‘Oh my God I can’t believe they’re still buying this shit!’

nepenthes ,
@nepenthes@lemmy.world avatar

I thought that so much I took a screen to post to comments. I’m glad I found your comment here. His expression is part smug, part guilt, part wainker.

smug/guilty looking wainker

Blackmist ,

I’ll never forgive him for what happened at Black Mesa.

geneva_convenience , to linux in Linux File System

wait /usr doesn’t mean user?

/etc has to be the worst name in there

filcuk ,

I wonder why that isn’t /cfg? Is there a historical reason?

cm0002 ,

Is there a historical reason?

If you’re asking that in anything Linux related, it’s probably a Yes 99% of the time LMAO

orangeboats ,

Not just Linux… 99% of the time you see something weird in the computing world, the reason is going to be “because history.”

cm0002 ,

Looks at the entire networking stack

Yup (unfortunately)

CrabAndBroom ,

According to this, it’s been around since the 70’s and was originally just a catch-all for files that didn’t fit in the other default directories, but over time has come to be mostly used for config files. I assume it would cause utter mayhem to try and change the name now so I guess it just sticks. Someone suggested “Edit To Configure” as a backronym to try and make it make more sense if that helps anyone lol.

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

I too expected it to be “et cetera”.

Revan343 ,

It’s probably the standard in both POSIX and the Single UNIX Specification, so I guess ask Ken Thompson?

cogman ,

usr does mean user. It was the place for user managed stuff originally. The home directory used to be a sub directory of the usr directory.

The meaning and purpose of unix directories has very organically evolved. Heck, it’s still evolving. For example, the new .config directory in the home directory.

AngryCommieKender ,

Per the graphic, it means Unix System Resources…

dafo ,

I don’t trust a graphic which explains /boot as “system boot loader files”…

AngryCommieKender ,

Well that’s a shame for me. This graphic finally made the Linux file directory structure make sense to me

irreticent ,
@irreticent@lemmy.world avatar

Why? What’s inaccurate about it? I have no idea and would like to learn.

dafo ,

It’s not wrong, but it feels a bit like some tech articles you’ll see which are obviously just created to fluff up a CV. I wouldn’t say avyttring here is flat out wrong, just kinda… lacking.

But yeah, /boot holds “system boot loader files”, sure, but that’s a bit vague. It should contain your kernel and initramcpio and IIRC Grub also had its config here. That’s pretty much it. I would’ve rather said /boot contains the kernel.

“device files” it’s so vague that it’s almost wrong IMO. At first glaze I would’ve thought that it means drivers rather than, say, “interfaces to devices”

Peter1986C ,
@Peter1986C@lemmings.world avatar

It kind of makes sense on many BIOS/UEFI-less systems where e.g. Uboot is used. And it does contain things like kernel images, sometimes initRD files etc. (which may not be bootloader files but are still system boot files).

JATtho ,

For example, the new .config directory in the home directory.

I hope slowly but surely no program will ever dump its config(s) as ~/.xyz.conf (or even worse in a program specific ~/.thisapp/; The ~/.config/ scheme works as long as the programs don’t repeat the bad way of dumping files as ~/.config/thisconfig.txt. (I’m looking at you kde folks…) A unique dir in .config directory should be mandatory.

If I ever need to shed some cruft accumulated over the years in ~/.config/ this would make it a lot easier.

SaharaMaleikuhm , to lemmyshitpost in This took me a great deal of strength to publicly acknowledge

Your weakness disgusts me

oce OP , to patientgamers in Seeing the decrease in the % of Outlast players who achieved basic game progress achievements, I find it amusing to think about those who chickened out mid-game and never returned.
@oce@jlai.lu avatar

Just got my camera back, I can see in the dark again! Click

https://jlai.lu/pictrs/image/89130850-325d-456c-b603-b279bcb70d2f.png

Rude!

ContrarianTrail , to nostupidquestions in Is it me or is everyone in hexbear insane?

Thank god for hexbear and lemmygrad though. Imagine the effort needed to block them all individually if spread over all the other instances.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, it’s actually helpful to have safe spaces for hateful assholes so they can be corralled away.

Steve ,

Its a safe space for them to be… away from me

YeetPics ,
@YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

If you think yogthos isn’t the main account of return2ozma you’re gonna have a bad time.

rhys , to linux in Linux File System

I think it’s probably useful to mention the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (FHS) here which describes most of the tree structure detailed in the diagram.

The directory layout mostly adopted by most distros evolved over time though, with major differences existing in how distros view usage of different parts of the filesystem, making it more of a standard that documents how the filesystem is laid out rather than one that defines it.

On a personal note, I hated /run for the longest time, thinking it a pointless, redundant quirk that exacerbated inconsistencies across distros. More recently though, I’ve come to value a space that is now (mostly) implemented consistently as a tmpfs mount from which to handle runtime data.

mortalic , to lemmyshitpost in This community has given me bean brain.

Seitan, legumes (so many options), nutritional yeast, spelt hemp seeds, peas, spirulina, quinoa, oats, wild rice, all nuts, mycoprotein (mushrooms). 🤷

wjrii ,

Sorry. The poster says to give it the beans. 🤷

UraniumBlazer ,

Exactly. There’s just SO MUCH of variety in protein options for vegans! Add that to the ungodly amount of ways you can cook the ingredients!!!

pyre , to linux in Linux File System

what a mess

brianary ,

There’s a little historical baggage, but look at Windows: multiple letters for drives, and all of the paths can be modified, so you have to ask Windows where any important directory is physically mapped (like SystemRoot or Documents or Temp or Roaming AppData or many others), because it doesn’t have this nice consistent structure like Linux. Linux presents a logical layer and manages the physical location automatically. Windows makes you do the logical lookup yourself, but doesn’t enforce it, so inexperienced programmers make assumptions and put stuff where the path usually is.

That’s part of why logging in to Windows over a slow connection can take forever if you have a bunch of Electron apps installed: they’ve mismapped their temp/cache directory under the Roaming AppData, so it gets synched at every login, often GiB of data, and they refuse to fix it.

ByteOnBikes ,

I switched to Linux a few years ago and you are not wrong.

Windows is a nightmare with directory organization.

Saved games can go:

  • My Documents/
  • My Documents/Games
  • My Documents/My Games
  • <app>/saved-games
Grass ,

I’m more used to seeing shit like: c:/users/username/appdata/local/developer/game/engine/data3/saves/profile0/epe90_cats90-slot203.nonstandardfileformat

patrick , to fediverse in Instance admins, how much does it cost you to run your instance? How much does that represent per active user?

Looking at just the hosting costs is actually a really bad indicator of total costs. The unpaid volunteer time just to run/manage the instance are likely going to be significantly more than the hosting costs if they were compensated even at minimum wage.

Each of the stacks for XXXiver.se and Bestiver.se (Mastodon + Lemmy + Static Site (+ Linkstack/Wiki for XXXiver.se premium)) are shoved into a Hetzner server at ~$13/month, and backed by R2 Object storage.

My current total hosting costs are ~$30/month to host 2xMastodon, 2xLemmy, 2xStatic Site, 1xLinkstack and 1xWiki. This is basically the minimum cost for me to host all of that on their own infra. I have approximately 0 users other than myself yet, so there’s not really a useful cost/user and I can’t really provide info on scaling.

Unlike most others here I’m seeing if I can make hosting into more of a job by selling the full suite of services to communities (e.g. get your own Mastodon + Lemmy + others) or by up-selling to premium accounts. I highly doubt that it will actually make any useful amount of money but I’m curious enough to try.

Blaze OP ,
@Blaze@feddit.org avatar

Unlike most others here I’m seeing if I can make hosting into more of a job by selling the full suite of services to communities (e.g. get your own Mastodon + Lemmy + others) or by up-selling to premium accounts. I highly doubt that it will actually make any useful amount of money but I’m curious enough to try.

FYI, there is communick.com which offers exactly that. The admin is @rglullis

rglullis ,
@rglullis@communick.news avatar

I highly doubt that it will actually make any useful amount of money.

Consider yourself lucky if you manage to break even. I am 5 years into this and the Fediverse side of things have been nothing but a money pit. The only thing that is not keeping me completely in the red is the custom Matrix hosting.

durfenstein , to asklemmy in What game, book, TV show, and/or movie do you wish you could experience for the first time again?

Game: The Outer Wilds and its DLC. Also Undertale as close second Movie: Summer Wars. Redline close second. Tv Show: Frieren - After journeys end

spicytuna62 OP ,
@spicytuna62@lemmy.world avatar

Undertale made me ugly cry, thanks Toby.

y0kai , to piracy in What is the best service to host a piracy resources list?

Idk what FMHY is but if its not this then what youre talking about already exists.

However, that list, while still mostly good, has been slowly turning… Not great.

Lemmy.dbzer0 has a list they maintain that is almost identical but better maintained. I’d post a link but idt it will work for you if you’re not a member of the instance.

Micromot ,
y0kai ,

That’s the one I linked above.

This one:

wiki.dbzer0.com/piracy/megathread/

Micromot ,

Weird, I thought it’s the pne linked in the sidebar

y0kai ,

lol I hadn’t clicked the sidebar link. Looks like it takes you to rentry as well.

101 OP ,
@101@reddthat.com avatar

Can you please post the link?

I will see if I can access it, to check if their list is better.

y0kai ,

wiki.dbzer0.com/piracy/megathread/

Sorry I had to find it, which isn’t easy on my phone, for some reason.

ETA: Also, if it works for you, please let me know so I can offer it to others as well!

101 OP ,
@101@reddthat.com avatar

BTW, FMHY is a list which has a good amount of resources as same as the megathread, but as I said they contain too much resources that it bacame a search engine rather than a list.

Revonult , to science_memes in Caption this.

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