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patrick ,

Looking at just the hosting costs is actually a really bad indicator of total costs. The unpaid volunteer time just to run/manage the instance are likely going to be significantly more than the hosting costs if they were compensated even at minimum wage.

Each of the stacks for XXXiver.se and Bestiver.se (Mastodon + Lemmy + Static Site (+ Linkstack/Wiki for XXXiver.se premium)) are shoved into a Hetzner server at ~$13/month, and backed by R2 Object storage.

My current total hosting costs are ~$30/month to host 2xMastodon, 2xLemmy, 2xStatic Site, 1xLinkstack and 1xWiki. This is basically the minimum cost for me to host all of that on their own infra. I have approximately 0 users other than myself yet, so there’s not really a useful cost/user and I can’t really provide info on scaling.

Unlike most others here I’m seeing if I can make hosting into more of a job by selling the full suite of services to communities (e.g. get your own Mastodon + Lemmy + others) or by up-selling to premium accounts. I highly doubt that it will actually make any useful amount of money but I’m curious enough to try.

SkaveRat ,

Masto admin here. Small instance. 20ish users. costs me about 1€ per user.

Most of the costs comes from media cache storage, so it would scale nicely if I had more users, but I want to keep it small

lemmyingly ,

Cost per month or year?

SkaveRat ,

month

user68k , (edited )

wired.bluemarch.art runs on the cheapest Hetzner VPS, so €4.18 per month plus yearly domain cost. Right now there is only one active user on this instance so the price for an active user is a bit high, but I don’t really care because I would pay for a VPS even when I don’t run a Lemmy instance on it.

hendrik , (edited )

6.84€ per month. And that's 6.84€ per user. But I also run a dozen of other services on that VPS.

noodlejetski ,

Beehaw’s financial update beehaw.org/post/15866385

Blaze OP ,
@Blaze@feddit.org avatar

Thanks! Looks like $183.58/372, so $0.49 per user per month

SorteKanin , (edited )
@SorteKanin@feddit.dk avatar

About 62 USD per month. I post monthly finance updates. All the costs are covered by user donations so far :)

It might be possible to do it cheaper, but I feel I got a good deal for some very high end hardware so this setup should be scalable going forward for a long time.

Blaze OP ,
@Blaze@feddit.org avatar

All the costs are covered by user donations so far :)

Well done!

SorteKanin ,
@SorteKanin@feddit.dk avatar

I mean, I can’t really take credit - the users on Feddit.dk are the ones that deserve the praise. I’ve been very surprised at the willingness to donate. We have almost 18 months of runway and that runway has mostly only gone up as time went by. Feddit.dk is not going anywhere anytime soon :)

wjs018 , (edited )

I think that user donations are easier when an instance has a good focus. There are some other instances I can think of where the donation model has been enough to cover things. In addition to feddit.dk and beehaw, an instance I use most of the time, ani.social, is more than covered by donations last I checked. It looks like @hitagi even took away the donate link in the sidebar. Never mind, I am just blind. I didn’t notice the little Ko-fi badge at the bottom. I was looking for a text link.

tamlyn ,
@tamlyn@lemmy.zip avatar

Lemmy.zip stats can be found here: Lemmy.zip

Our Admin gives us a monthly report. We are at 54$ while visitor count, rewlquest count can be seen at the report.

Blaze OP ,
@Blaze@feddit.org avatar

$54/504, so around $0.11 per user

tamlyn ,
@tamlyn@lemmy.zip avatar

Yes about 0.10$ per user. But we know only a few pay a bit more. Look at the open collective link on the post

troed ,
@troed@fedia.io avatar

@seb publishes the costs for ioc.exchange:

Servers are hosted at Linode and hosting costs are around $300/month.
Media files are hosted in AWS S3 and the costs are around $50/month.
So in total our running costs are about $350/month.

Unfortunately the donations still don't cover it.

This is your regular reminder that our hosting costs are roughly $350 per month.
In the last 30 days you all have contributed $216. Thank you very much for everyone who has contributed - You are awesome!

edit: User numbers from fedidb: 1,737 MAU, 26,315 total.

DarkThoughts ,

5 bucks per month per active user sounds excessively expensive, no?

troed ,
@troed@fedia.io avatar

Yeah I think you got the numbers crossed there :D

DarkThoughts ,

Shit. I'm gonna turn my alarm off and get some proper sleep the next days...

iso ,
@iso@lemy.lol avatar

About $50 monthly for server, backups, image hosting, mails etc.

flamingos ,

Feddit.uk makes our finances public, about £35 a month. So about £0.11 per active user.

Also, I run sappho.social out of a £5 a month VPS.

5714 ,

From the comments I see, feddit.uk seems to have the lowest unit costs with 11 pennce.

Blaze OP ,
@Blaze@feddit.org avatar

Reminds me of Mary Poppins

m.youtube.com/watch?v=T5Wb_sTdJVg

subtext ,

Here’s the stats for mastodon.world and Lemmy.world

(And a few other fediverse sites)

blog.mastodon.world/blog-post-for-august-2024-and…

Blaze OP ,
@Blaze@feddit.org avatar

Thanks, I remember seeing it some time ago, but it’s a bit hard to really identify how much the Lemmy instance exactly costs

HubertManne ,

Is the shutdown about cost per user? why not just limit signups in a case like that? I sorta assumed some instances were personal instances with no real signups and some where more open public. I don't see why someone can't run something with the intention of carrying like 10 users max or 100 or 1000 or what not.

troed ,
@troed@fedia.io avatar

I think a lot of people start up a server because at the time it fits with what they want to do. Once you realize this is not a job (correct description) you wanted to take on it becomes much harder to motivate it.

As soon as you run a server for others outside of the immediate friends/family circle it can be really difficult to deal with the expectations of uptime and service. Also, some don't want to ask for help but also take on all the moderation themselves too.

HubertManne ,

how much can someone limit the instance? Like can they not allow magazine creation? It would be good for the good folks who run instances to think about scope and set limits. That does mean some large instances will be the backbone but that does not change that small instances will lighten the load and increase robustness.

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

ive purposefully stood up my instance in a production, scalable environment.

i make my costs public on the https://moist.catsweat.com/faq page.

currently running ~1.60/day = 50$/month...

so far about $0.50/per user/month or $1.25/active user/month which should move downward until i hit resource limits and have to scale infrastructure.

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