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BackOnMyBS , to nostupidquestions in Can someone define "liberal" (in its use as an insult) for me?
@BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place avatar

I’m not really into this stuff, but from what I can tell, liberal became an insult purely because conservatives wanted to label liberals as inferior. That’s about it. Some leftists also use liberal as an insult, though to a lesser extreme.

How conservatives use it, liberal means someone that is too sensitive, accommodating, weak, and evil (especially in Christian terms).

How leftists use it, liberal means uneducated, hypocritical, insufficient, and turncoat/traitor.

cabbage ,
@cabbage@piefed.social avatar

So when self-proclaimed leftists use as a slur it's not even in relation to support for private property rights?

I guess, if you're a proper communist, you could use liberal as a category of leftists who don't want to abolish property rights. As for the far right crowd, it could be a slur for anyone who doesn't want to abolish all other rights.

homesweethomeMrL ,

They use bougie for that

flux , to memes in Here's the album, can anyone name the tracks for it?
@flux@lemmy.world avatar
  • I’ve got one hand in my pocket and the other one is holding a .45
  • Never miss (Not once)
  • Don’t slip the grip
hanrahan , to asklemmy in how do you survive lazy coworkers?
@hanrahan@slrpnk.net avatar

80/20 must about everywhere , work places, volunteer organisations etc 20% of the people do 80% of the work.

eli04 OP ,

in your experience, do managers recognize and pay this 20%? This being nursing, I don’t believe it’s gonna be the case: this is a job nobody wants to do, reason why slackers get away not doing much.

SuiXi3D ,
@SuiXi3D@fedia.io avatar

It’s never been my experience in any job. A company doesn’t exist for your benefit, they exist to extract as much labor out of you for the least money.

WeirdGoesPro ,
@WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

The lesson to be learned here is don’t over exert yourself for your job without clear reward—do the amount of work they pay you for. Unless you are in a leadership position, your primary responsibility as an employee is to yourself.

There are whole departments who are there to look after the company’s interest, but it is up to you to look after your own.

lightnsfw ,

The managers might recognize them but payroll decides pay and everyone’s job code is the same to them. When I was a manager I could argue to try and get pay raises for my top performers but it usually didn’t do much good. Firing the shitty ones also didn’t help because it took months to get approval to hire a replacement.

Deckweiss , (edited ) to linux in So I installed Arch Linux... Is this it?

Now actually use it for a couple of years. Then you’ll see whats special about it.

For me personally, Ubuntu was breaking on every dist upgrade, the software was always out of date or not available in the repos. Been running arch for 5 years, same install, even transplanted it over to newer computers without issues. When some package is missing, I can throw together a PKGBUILD with chatgpt and put it on the AUR for others to use. It fucking rocks and is extremely sturdy while allowing me to do with it whatever I want.

But yeah, besides that, it’s just a linux. The individual things it does well are not even exclusive to arch. Ideally, you should not think about your OS at all and it should be out of your way, while you do something on it.

Maragato ,
@Maragato@lemmy.world avatar

Any major Linux distribution has a system for building packages, it’s not something special to Arch. In fact, Arch’s great advantage of the aur repository actually becomes a disadvantage by introducing instability and insecurity into your system when you add programs from that repository. It’s amazing that people criticize Windows security with .exe’s and then install packages from external repositories with the security of “trust in the repository”. How can you trust code with root access to the system just because it’s in the aur repository? That’s the main question I would ask Arch users.

SexualPolytope , (edited )
@SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

It’s a choice. We know that it’s riskier to use stuff from AUR. Which is why it’s highly recommended to read the PKGBUILD before installing the package. The basic Arch install doesn’t even include an AUR helper. That said, AUR is typically very reliable for packages with a decent userbase. It’s mostly due to the community aspect. Bad actors are caught relatively easily as the PKGBUILD is available to look at.

nous ,

Any major Linux distribution has a system for building packages

I have built packages for all the major ones. Non arch packages are a pain to build and I never want to do it again. In contrast arch PKGBUILDs are quite simple and straight forward.

How can you trust code with root access to the system just because it’s in the aur repository?

Because you can view the source that builds the packages before building them. A quick check to not see any weird commands in the builds script and that it is going to an upstream repo is normally good enough. Though I bet most people work on the if others trust it then so do I mentality. Overall due to its relative popularity it is not a big target for threats when compared to things like NPM - which loads of people trust blindly as well and typically on vastly more important machines and servers.

cupboard ,

It's amazing that people criticize Windows security with .exe's and then install packages from external repositories with the security of "trust in the repository".

As with almost every case of these sorts of comparisons, these are likely separate groups of people holding separate groups of opinions.

I don't use Arch anymore, but when I did I found that the AUR was really useful to quickly install niche applications that would take ages to be approved on to an official repository. Often those would be made by the application developers themselves or members of the community. I would personally vet the packaging script myself, but I'm sure many wouldn't - and that's fine. As with most software, there's some trust involved and often you assume that if you're installing from a reputable repository it's going to be fine. If people aren't vetting the installation scripts and are installing from random repositories, that's really their problem. I'm glad the possibility existed and it's the one thing I've missed in distros I've used since then.

yardy_sardley ,

Not sure if sarcasm or actual disinformation. You’re not supposed to trust the aur, that’s kinda the whole point of it. The build scripts are transparent enough to allow users to manage their own risk, and at no point does building a package require root access.

ChonkaLoo ,

Well there is far less malware on Linux tbf so comparison is not completely accurate. But same caution applies, try to vet and understand what you install. That part is also easier with the AUR as it’s transparent in the packagebuild what it does unlike random exes with closed source. It’s also a large community with many eyes on the code so unless it’s a package with few users then it’s gonna get caught pretty quickly.

Maragato ,
@Maragato@lemmy.world avatar

That is, you admit that most aur users delegate that function to other eyes instead of auditing the external code they are installing. A user repository outside of the official distribution repository is not a secure means of installing packages on the system, which may have root access to the system and the source code may change with each package update. Do you think that every time there is an update to a package that is not widely used, others will audit the source code for you? For that reason I stopped using Aur and by extension Arch, as their software catalog outside of aur is small.

ChonkaLoo ,

Your comparison was with random exes on the most targeted, malware infested operating system out there.

Many eyes are always better than no eyes. I’m not saying you shouldn’t vet the code stop misinterpreting but no one knows or catches everything by themselves. That’s why security needs transparency. If it’s as insecure as you’re saying we would have way bigger problems but we don’t. AUR is not as safe as the Arch repository sure, but definitely safer than installing random exes on Windows. It’s a flawed comparison you’re making.

If you’re paranoid you should be on an immutable distro cause xz backdoor was in some official repos. Repo maintainers do not catch everything either it was just a mere coincidence someone caught it(again thanks to transparency & many eyes on code) before mass deployment. Installing anything with root access is a risk. Going online is a risk. But there are ways to mitigate risk. Some security you’re always gonna have to trade for convenience.

enemyofsun ,

there is far less malware on Linux

That’s a common misconception. Linux is the most popular OS for servers. There are a lot of malware for Linux, probably even more than for Windows.

ChonkaLoo ,

I think you’re missing the context. We’re not talking servers here but desktops. Arch is typically used on desktop systems. The threats that face desktops and servers are not the same. Same goes for risk and potential damage. Also please provide a source if you’re trying to debunk “common misconception”.

lud ,

Been running arch for 5 years, same install, even transplanted it over to newer computers without issues.

To be fair, I pretty much do that with Windows 10…

SentientFishbowl OP ,

Makes sense. Do you find that by having the same install for so long (including transplanting it) that you have accumulated a lot of bloat? One of the things I really enjoyed about a fresh install was that I knew there wasn’t a build-up of digital junk files, but with Arch fresh installing every once in a while just seems impractical.

nous ,

Not in any bothersome way. But if you really want to reinstall often that is valid as well. You can very easily script the arch install process to get you back to the same state far easier than other distros as well. Or you can just mass install everything except base and some core packages and reinstall the things you care about again which almost gives you a fresh install minus any unmanaged files (which are mostly in home and likely want to keep anyway).

danielquinn , (edited )
@danielquinn@lemmy.ca avatar

I’ve been using Arch for about 15 years or so, and yes, I build up cruft… in my home directory ;-). The system itself is remarkably good at keeping tidy. The one spot to keep an eye on is /var/cache/pacman, as that’s where it stores every package you download before installation and it won’t delete it without you asking it to.

Any new config file will be saved with a .pacsave extension, so you’ll want to keep an eye out for those, but that’s basically it

Ooops ,
@Ooops@feddit.org avatar

Which is a good point to remind people to install pacman-contrib and make running pacdiff regularly a habit…

Deckweiss ,

Most of the junk accumulates in /home and I did a cleaning once, where I got rid of a couple hundred GB there, from stuff that was either already uninstalled or still installed but unused for years.

In the other root directories, I didn’t find much tbh. My / (excluding home) takes up 40GB and I don’t think it was significantly lower years ago as the bulk of it comes from necessary program files.

Ooops ,
@Ooops@feddit.org avatar

The main trash you accumulate are config files in you home directory because they stay after the package is uninstalled. And they just sit there not hurting anybody.

skullgiver ,
@skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl avatar

Ubuntu installs upgrade well in my experience, unless you add weird and outdated software from external sources. A bit like manually installing pkgbuild files you found on Github. Stuff will break in the same way when dependencies don’t get upgraded.

That said, Arch installs will break when a random library decides to update, and Ubuntu will break years later when you decide to upgrade.

Except for maybe Gentoo, Arch is the most “gets in your way” OS I’ve seriously used. You need to be conscious of stuff like your bootloader configuration, the network manager you use, and sometimes the kind of Bluetooth daemon you’re running, or software may not work or break your boot. It’s pretty easy to use if you install Arch by picking the exact same software you can also find in other distros (i.e. the Ubuntu style grub+systemd+NetworkManager+Gnome set, or the Fedora systemd-boot+dracut+NetworkManager+Gnome set). Following the Arch guide without copying a preexisting software set will make your life very difficult, as I’ve found out.

mostlikelyaperson ,

Yup, Arch is by far the distro I have had the fewest amounts of technical issues with. Yes, you need to know what you are doing or be willing to read docs, but there’s no magical bullshit, maintainer capriciousness and lack of planning happening like I have unfortunately witnessed all too often while using other distros.

atzanteol ,

Linux distros are made for using, not teaching. That’s what LFS is for: www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/

ReveredOxygen ,
@ReveredOxygen@sh.itjust.works avatar

How is this relevant? They were talking about how Arch has a great user experience

atzanteol ,

Replied to the wrong post by accident.

z00s ,

Ubuntu is plastic

EherNicht , to memes in An alternate timeline

This just hits hard

eldavi , to linux in Is there a program that I can run on my laptop to tell me what Linux distro supports the hardware out of the box? Also whether the hardware is supported at all?

a quick and dirty way to find out if your hardware is supported is to try out a live usb distributions that runs entirely off of a usb stick and never makes any permanent changes to your system.

it will run MUCH slower than a regular installation; but if you see all of your hardware and drivers enumerated in lspci; you’ll know that it works out of the box.

you should know that this limits you to the distros that have live usb images only; but if you go with mainstream debian, fedora, arch, etc. you’ll instantly know that downstream distro’s are capable of supporting with that hardware with that version of the mainstream distribution that they’re forked from (eg ubuntu from debian; manjaro from arch; suse from redhat; etc.)

i used this method extensively when i was new to linux and distro hopped a lot; it taught me a lot when i first started out.

MangoPenguin ,
@MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I find quite often that the Live version of a distro will work perfectly, but after install some hardware won’t work anymore.

eldavi ,

yes, that will happen.

the live distro’s come included with a lot of preloaded driver/firmware that is not included with a regular installation for a myriad of reasons; but you can use lspci and lsmod from the live environment to identify the proper software you need to add to your regular installation to get that hardware working.

MangoPenguin ,
@MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

It’s just weird that it can’t detect my hardware and pull the drivers it needs like windows does.

StrawberryPigtails ,

Sometimes it’s an ideological issue. Some distributions don’t ship nonfree drivers, some do, but require you to manually install them, and some have trouble making up their mind. This last is where you get live cds that automatically load the drivers needed for your hardware, but when you actually install, things aren’t working anymore.

pglpm ,
@pglpm@lemmy.ca avatar

That’s useful info, I didn’t know about this. Could you be so kind to share some link, or say something more, about lspci and lsmod and how to proceed from them to identifying which drivers one should install? Cheers!

eldavi ,

here’s an example using my wifi card on my laptop; here i use lscpi and i’ve copy/pasted the stanza that pertains to the wifi card:


<span style="color:#323232;">me@laptop:~$ lspci -v
</span><span style="color:#323232;">[REMOVED]
</span><span style="color:#323232;">00:14.3 Network controller: Intel Corporation Alder Lake-P PCH CNVi WiFi (rev 01)
</span><span style="color:#323232;">        DeviceName: Onboard - Ethernet
</span><span style="color:#323232;">        Subsystem: Intel Corporation Dual Band Wi-Fi 6(802.11ax) AX201 160MHz 2x2 [Harrison Peak]
</span><span style="color:#323232;">        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16, IOMMU group 9
</span><span style="color:#323232;">        Memory at 601d18c000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
</span><span style="color:#323232;">        Capabilities: <access denied>
</span><span style="color:#323232;">        Kernel driver in use: iwlwifi
</span><span style="color:#323232;">        Kernel modules: iwlwifi
</span><span style="color:#323232;">[REMOVED]
</span>

i can see that the driver name is iwlwifi and i can use that to look for related modules using lsmod:


<span style="color:#323232;">me@laptop:~$ lsmod | grep iwlwifi
</span><span style="color:#323232;">iwlwifi               598016  1 iwlmvm
</span><span style="color:#323232;">cfg80211             1318912  3 iwlmvm,iwlwifi,mac80211
</span>

now i know all of the module names and i can either google them to learn how to install them or i can continue further with the package manager on the installation to further backwards engineer it. (googling is faster).

as i mentioned earlier there are caveats: downstream distros tend to use a slightly older version of their base distros so you also need to make sure that you’re using the same version of the driver and kernel and adjust accordingly if it doesn’t start working right away.

pglpm ,
@pglpm@lemmy.ca avatar

Fantastic, this is extremely helpful, thank you! 🥇 I wanted to test a couple of distros for my Thinkpad, and I’ll make sure to check and save this kind of information from live USBs.

rotopenguin ,
@rotopenguin@infosec.pub avatar

Also do “dmesg | grep -i firmware” to see what firmware loads the kernel squirted into the various device controllers.

Anyolduser , to showerthoughts in The rat race, society, the world has gotten so ridiculous that my "Last Man on Earth" fantasies have been replaced by "Only Man on Another Planet" fantasies.

It has more to do with the common person knowing more about space and space travel than anything else.

Farvana , to memes in Here's the album, can anyone name the tracks for it?

Learn yer (smith &) wesson

Okami_No_Rei , (edited ) to patientgamers in Do you still play couch coop nowadays? Which games do you recommend?
@Okami_No_Rei@lemmy.world avatar

Super Smash Bro’s Ultimate is still the premier Couch Co-Op game for my circle of friends. We also play the JackBox party games and occasionally Mario Party.

I genuinely don’t know what options are even available outside of Nintendo’s fence anymore.

Edit: My reading comprehension is in the garbage today. Baldurs Gate 3 and It Takes Two.

culpritus , to memes in Here's the album, can anyone name the tracks for it?
@culpritus@hexbear.net avatar

air pistols at dawn

under pressure

trigger point

don’t pull, squeeze

AllNewTypeFace , to retrogaming in Finally got this after two months of waiting! A bit uncomfortable and heats up easily, but it's still great to have a retro handheld of my own.
@AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space avatar

It’s a beauty. Great haptic feedback on those. The little red console looks nifty too.

selokichtli , to asklemmy in Who the hell is MrBeast?

Just another rich child man begging for your attention.

TheGalacticVoid ,

I’m curious as to why you say that as he literally used his first sponsorship to pay off his mom’s mortgage and seems to come from an average standard of living.

Flyberius ,
@Flyberius@hexbear.net avatar

Who wouldn’t use a lump sum of money to help those closest to them?

selokichtli ,

That, if true, doesn’t invalidate that the guy is rich, immature, and makes a living from attracting people to pay him attention so he gets paid even more money. I said it because that’s what he is.

TheGalacticVoid ,

I get your point now. I interpreted your comment as “he was born rich”. I also didn’t watch the exposé until after I wrote mine.

crawancon , to memes in Here's the album, can anyone name the tracks for it?

Back and to the left is my jam!

SamuraiBeandog , to science_memes in Octopi
@SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world avatar

Octopodes.

Dufurson ,
@Dufurson@sh.itjust.works avatar

Octopussies

tate ,
@tate@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Also, octopi. They’re all “correct” due to the multiple original languages’ grammar.

blackluster117 ,
@blackluster117@possumpat.io avatar

I’ve always preferred ‘octopodes’. It’s just such a fun word.

Zron ,

After reading the children of time series, I choose to use octopodes simply due to the fact that they are beautifully narcissistic little bastards in those books.

Man is that a good, if gut wrenching series.

zqwzzle ,

I should memorize the video

tate ,
@tate@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Thank you! I knew they were all correct, and I knew why, but I didn’t have an authoritative source to point folks to.

zqwzzle ,

It used to be on the Merriam Webster YouTube channel but I think that editor left and for some reason it was taken down.

Donjuanme ,

Octopadeus?

Ultraviolet ,

Octopodes nuts?

Sanctus , to retrogaming in Finally got this after two months of waiting! A bit uncomfortable and heats up easily, but it's still great to have a retro handheld of my own.
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Really great game, played it through with my brother.

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