Well, the thing about atoms is that they arrange themselves in patterns to create those larger building blocks you speak of. Solar systems move much too slowly, so that by the time they would have arranged themselves into anything resembling the patterns exhibited by atoms, the heat death of the universe would have occurred.
The resemblance you see is orbit, but the major issue with uniting the orbit of atoms and the orbit of planets under one theorem is the scale of the forces at work. Gravity is many orders of magnitudes weaker than electromagnetic force holding electrons in place (and it needs to be that much stronger because of how much faster electrons move relative to their size than planets).
But, that assumes that it is the same time horizon as what we experience. I've often thought of the scenario where we are living on something that is like a quark of an atom of a much larger existence. And that maybe we make up a small bit of a dude who is sitting around having similar thoughts. But, this enormous (to us) dude moves on an extremely slower timeline. So slow that they there is no possible way we could communicate, even if either of us realized. And in the same regard, there are whole worlds that exist inside the quarks that make up the atoms that make up us. Maybe it is even a recursive existence that goes on to infinity. Because, why not? Prove me wrong. :-)
Subatomic particles are still constrained by the same speed of light as larger objects. As you scale up the speed by which this recursive universe operates in, this limit becomes more and more significant, and fewer interactions can occur in the relative unit of time.
To put it another way, if this super-universe were to use solar systems as atoms, the speed of light would mean their timescale would be in the billions of our years to their seconds. This is derived from the picosecond delay of forces acting between our atoms and scaling up to the solar system "atoms" that make up our galactic neighborhood (10-100 light years apart). So solar systems couldn't be atoms on this timescale because they would do little but coalesce some of the intergalactic medium and die in seconds.
It's possible, but the theory assumes we're operating within the same physics, just different scales of time and space. Supposing there are other universes with their own laws of physics is rather arbitrary, and you could literally argue anything :)
I would argue a universe as a unit is a terrible candidate for an atom for a super-universe since our physics assumes it is a closed system. It would be neat if we weren't bound by the heat-death of the universe and somehow low entropic states could leak back in. But that is all pure speculation and it cannot be proven or disproven from a scientific point of view.
The solar system and many like it are already part of a galaxy, and multiple galaxies form a galaxy cluster or filament due to gravity. Overall they already formed a neural-network-like pattern.
Great point. We should also add for @Vupperware 's benefit that subatomic orbitals the way they're envisioning them are a lie we tell ourselves because quantum mechanics is too damn weird to think about.
In fact, probably the greatest argument against atoms as smaller scale worlds is the fuckiness (technical term) of quantum mechanics on that scale. "Worlds" existing only as a probabilistic distribution might make existence difficult.
See I'm the opposite, the fuckiness at that scale is my greatest argument for their possible existence, accepting that their existence would be in a manner completely alien and unintelligible to me. There's SO MUCH fuckiness that anything is possible.
I must have clicked on RIF about twenty times yesterday as I kept forgetting it’s gone forever - everyone I have spoken to IRL seems to use the official Reddit app (which was even more of a shock), so I think this Reddit play is going to work exactly as intended
I can’t imagine using the official Reddit app shudders
I’m still not sure I’ve got my head around the whole fediverse thing. I’ve ended up with a login on both desist.uk and Lemmy.world but I guess it could be worse 😅
The posts in this community have certainly been a bit different from r/showerthoughts. I’m reluctant to be strict about curating the content but happy accept feedback on how you would like things enforced.
Only three posts have been reported as being off topic, this post being one of them.
Personally I found that thinking of Lemmy as a bunch of Discord servers really helped. Both have servers and “channels” inside them. Perhaps “The office” meme of “Corporate wants you to find the difference” would be fitting?
Hmm, perhaps you’re right. When it comes to explaining the fediverse itself, that’s definitely a no-go. I figured it’s just visually easier to grasp it when thinking of Discord.
Hmm, interesting more comments on this thread than the other place
I’ve got a dodgy calf muscle, but hoping a walk will be good for it and loosen it up. It better not go the other way and cripple me.
Tis windy!
As someone who has had calf issues since she was 25, I can highly recommend doing some purposeful stretches first. That one where you stand on the edge of a stair and let your heels sink down is a gamechanger.
Embrace: Development of software substantially compatible with a competing product, or implementing a public standard.
Extend: Addition and promotion of features not supported by the competing product or part of the standard, creating interoperability problems for customers who try to use the “simple” standard.
Extinguish: When extensions become a de facto standard because of their dominant market share, they marginalize competitors that do not or cannot support the new extensions.
International: Weather&Radar - best overall UK: Wearher Forcast UK or MetOffice app (same source but different UI) GER: Deutscher Wetterdienst und Regen Vorschau (very accurate but only GER)
Factorio. The game automatically adjusts difficulty based on your speed and familiarity. Pros scaling rapidly are going to have a harder time with biters than a noob learning the ropes on the exact same difficulty settings. Difficulty settings can be scaled up for a true challenge. Mods are supported damn near as much as first party devs. It’s a very well optimized game. It’s just technically impressive, psychologically fun, and fundamentally well balanced.
Bitwarden - used for all my passwords and 2FA WhatsApp - wish I could replace with Signal but network effects too wide Twitter - I’m too addicted. This used to be Flamingo (RIP)
The last spot could’ve been between Flamingo and Reddit Sync, sad times.
You get all sorts of people paintballing. You normally stick in little groups anyway so being 2 is good. There are people who are good/better but most of the time they know they’re better. Just make sure you put your hands up when you’re shot. Whoever shoots me after my hands are up gets a few choice words.
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