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Google Chrome’s plan to limit ad blocking extensions kicks off next week

Reminder to switch browsers if you haven’t already!

  • Google Chrome is starting to phase out older, more capable ad blocking extensions in favor of the more limited Manifest V3 system.
  • The Manifest V3 system has been criticized by groups like the Electronic Frontier Foundation for restricting the capabilities of web extensions.
  • Google has made concessions to Manifest V3, but limitations on content filtering remain a source of skepticism and concern.
majestictechie ,

The silver lining here is that you’d hope that more people will simply adopt Firefox. It’s user share has been too low for too long given how great it is

llama ,
@llama@midwest.social avatar

They messed up 10 years ago when for some reason it took ages for Firefox to load compared to Chrome, and sadly it never really recovered the user base even though the performance is vastly improved.

ruse8145 ,

To be fair, even in 2006 the Mozilla corporation was never going to outspend Firefox

Especially not given how much Mozilla wastes on executive compensation ;)

KairuByte ,
@KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Their user share was pretty okay for a while, but bombed when Chrome first released because it was much more performant. Unfortunately, that stigma never quite fell off and they lost a huge opportunity to overtake the market.

InternetPerson ,

How was it more performant? As I remember it, Chrome was loading websites not noticeably faster than Firefox, as website loading speed depended and still depends mainly on your internet connection and hardware anyway.

As I remember it, Chrome exploded because it was pushed onto users at every possible opportunity while Firefox depended (and still depends) on users actively looking for it.

Used Google or Google products? Get ads for Chrome. Wanted to download Google Earth? You had to activly uncheck a box such that Chrome wasn’t going to be installed as well. Meanwhile no ads and not the same amount of exposure for Firefox.

That way they achieved a critical mass and snowballing did the rest. There were so many users using it that it was considered a good choice just because it was used by many people.

Regarding the performance aspect, if there even was a noticeable difference, it was worse than Firefox. Where else did the “Chrome eating RAM” memes come from?

Kiosade ,

I just remember Firefox around that time and for like over a decade just felt bloated and super slow in comparison. No idea if it’s better these days or what.

ruse8145 ,

Its much better, and indistinguishable from a usage standpoint against chrome (I use Google garbage at work and they deliberately hamstring it in Firefox, so I use both browsers side by side)

Biggest Firefox win is containers and privacy. Chrome probably has better absolute security (based purely on the concept that non-private security is Google’s whole schtick, not based on data) and in the last year it’s gotten better memory management (via sleeping tabs) that Firefox just hasn’t caught up with…but there’s an addon for that ;)

InternetPerson ,

I’d say give it a try and see for yourself.

I can just recommend using Firefox for a multitude of reasons. However, I am biased as I have been using firefox for almost two decades and did not have many reasons to complain.

KairuByte ,
@KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I was a Firefox user at the time, using adblockers, and the swap was a huge improvement to my browsing experience. I can’t even remember all the ways, since this was a decade ago. But at the time, Firefox was in a lul.

Things likely swapped pretty fast, but I wasn’t aware of it at the time because I was already using Chrome.

No ads swayed me, no Google specific sites, it wasn’t side loaded with anything.

The Chrome eating ram memes came much later, after the enshitification process reached the third step. You seem to be compressing the entirety of both browsers into a single moment, and that’s not really how time works.

InternetPerson ,

I understand that you made such an experience, but I can’t share it though. I’ve been a Firefox user for almost as long as Firefox exists, which is almost two decades. (I think I joined somewhere between 2005-2007). I’ve tried other browsers, sometimes I had to. However, I didn’t notice any benefits compared to Firefox. Especially not in performance. Even though benchmarks have always shown clear differences, they weren’t significant enough for me to consider switching, as the difference really didn’t impact my browsing experience.

Regarding the memes: That was just a random annectode which I found suitable here. I don’t claim it has been that way since the beginning. (Can’t relate to that anyway.) But given that it has been around for a while, I don’t see how performance can be an argument in favour of Chrome in this.

ruse8145 ,

I think you are misremembering. Chrome won at the start because it was fast as fuck and Firefox was not. Firefox caught back up in the 2016 time frame iirc and they’ve been back and forth ever since.

Ironically chrome was named so as a goal was to reduce the chrome of the UI and focus on the web content, something recent versions of chrome and Firefox have abandoned in favor of massive swaths of whitespace and giant chrome buttons (on Firefox you can enable “unsupported” compact mode to reclaim some of the space if you’re on a laptop)

thermal_shock ,

agreed. chrome was bare ones and super fast when it was released. over the last two years it’s a fucking monster memory hog

InternetPerson ,

I’ve been a loyal Firefox user for almost as long as Firefox has existed. So I’m probably a bit biased. However, when I used other browsers, and if it wes just to try them out, I didn’t notice any benefits in terms of loading websites and executing their scripts. This includes Chrome. In benchmarks there are obviously differences visible, but to me as a user they didn’t matter. I wasn’t so short on time that I needed those microseconds. So I really don’t get how performance could be an argument in this.

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    planish ,

    I remember it as, Firefox was fast enough, but Chrome was shipping a weirdly quick JS engine and trying to convince people to put more stuff into JS because on Chrome that would be feasible. Nowdays if you go out without your turbo-JIT hand-optimized JS engine everyone laughs at you and it’s Chrome’s fault.

    buddascrayon ,

    I think you’re ignoring the functional aspect of the integration of Chrome into the Android platform. A lot of people’s entire online life is stored within the walls of the Chrome ecosystem. And moving all of that to a completely different browser that is not fully integrated with Android is daunting to say the least.

    djsaskdja ,

    The situation is even more dire on iPhone.

    Moorshou ,

    What’s the new chrome integration?

    ruse8145 ,

    Didn’t say new, I’m assuming they refer to the WebView that many apps use which is chromium based. However if you have a calyx- or graphene- compatible phone the WebView will be non-g chromium.

    hogmomma ,

    For work, I use Chrome, but only because Firefox’s profile management is (more or less) nonexistent. Once they have that, which I understand isn’t too far out, I’m ditching Chrome entirely.

    majestictechie ,

    Have you thought about installing a Firefox fork? On my Work PC I use Firefox for work and Floorp for personal browsing.

    hogmomma ,

    What’s this, you say? Floorp? Sounds like you’re setting me up for a Futurama joke, or something.

    hogmomma ,

    I’ll see what’s up, as long as it doesn’t require admin rights.

    VerPoilu ,

    Unfortunately, I think that while ad blockers won’t work as well, they will still work good enough that most won’t bother making the switch.

    blog.getadblock.com/how-adblock-is-getting-ready-…

    github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/wiki/

    adguard.com/en/blog/adguard-mv3.html

    www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/…/j3h00xj/

    The main issue I see is the slow update of filters (which require an extension update). This might make YouTube win the cat and mouse game. Where YouTube updates(ed?) their blocking detection multiple time a day.

    Defaced ,

    Good thing I exclusively use Firefox.

    abbiistabbii ,
    @abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    I say this a lot but get Firefox.

    enbyecho , (edited )

    This post reminded me to try out Brave. It’s based on Chromium but purports to block ads and trackers…

    Anybody else use it?

    Edit: Interesting. Anyone care to explain the downvotes? I know nothing about this browser other than it purportedly blocks Youtube ads, which are driving me nuts.

    Edit2: Well shit: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich

    I had no idea about this guy. Ok, so completely not an option.

    cyberic ,
    @cyberic@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    My brother uses it, just remember to look through the ad settings. There was a toggle at one point to allow their approved ads or something like that.

    kusivittula ,

    i tried brave recently after finding out it’s open source, and that setting is off by default. ended up keeping firefox, because on android somehow the new tab page in brave is even worse than in ff. too tricky to access bookmarks.

    ruse8145 ,

    I still to this day don’t know how to get back to the tab I was on in firefox-android if I get to the new tab screen. It’s been 2 or 3 years since the redesign.

    kusivittula ,

    you need to close keyboard, hit the tab icon on the address bar and select the tab. easier way is to open some recent website and either close the current one or swipe from the address bar. it’s stupid.

    ruse8145 ,

    Sigh, thank you

    ruse8145 ,

    Iirc there was also some drama about the money they collect not going to the promised destination. Anywhere other than silicon valley this might be called fraud.

    astropenguin5 ,

    They still might be forced to follow chromium’s manifest v3 ant ad locking stuff though, we’ll just have to see.

    ruse8145 ,

    No I’m pro lgbtq folks having rights

    enbyecho , (edited )

    How does this relate to Brave browser?

    Edit: I had no idea about the CEO. So yeah, not gonna ever use that.

    ruse8145 ,

    yep :(

    very disappointing all round. on a sliding scale thats not the worst thing brave has done, but given that the entire browser was literally birthed from “we don’t want your hate here” its hard to avoid.

    RokAlamSeth ,

    Too bad for your little black and white worldview those are the same people against adblockers. The good thing is this world has sensible people like me who could give less of a fuck who’s feeling is getting hurt and only care about our browsing experience. The rest can go die for all I care.

    ruse8145 ,

    What the actual duck are you talking about? I genuinely can’t figure it out.

    RokAlamSeth ,

    filtered

    daniskarma ,

    I’ve been way more than a decade (closer to two decades) uninterruptedly using Firefox. I’ve never used chrome as a my main browser, ever.

    But still, I’ll be naive if I didn’t recognize that this kind of shit will affect me even if it’s just indirectly.

    Next year they’ll surely will be forcing many webs only working in “manifest V3 compliant browsers”. I’m sure of that.

    exanime ,

    The problem is that Firefox has like a crumb of the market and it’s held by a lifeline given by Google itself

    There is no guarantee Firefox would survive the long term … Heck it would die short after Google decides to cut them off

    NutWrench ,
    @NutWrench@lemmy.world avatar

    Back in the Dim Times (1990s), before ad-blockers appeared, there was a program called WebWasher. It’s basically a proxy server you run on your own computer and it contained all the ad filters. You just configured your browsers network setting to point to WebWasher and it would handle all the ad filtering.

    So even if companies completely remove extension support from their browsers, we’ll still have an alternative. :)

    SpaceCadet ,
    @SpaceCadet@feddit.nl avatar

    That man-in-the-middle principle doesn’t work with TLS.

    ruse8145 ,

    But ads are still often delivered by content delivery which is blockable by domain, hence the reason piholes work. Not that in-stream ads aren’t the future, perhaps, but life finds a way.

    SpaceCadet ,
    @SpaceCadet@feddit.nl avatar

    What you’re describing is not a man-in-the-middle proxy, but a simple DNS block. That’s a very crude approach to blocking ads and notoriously doesn’t work for YouTube and Google ads because they’re served from the same domain.

    I run a pihole myself but there’s still a huge difference between browsing with pihole only and pihole+ublock. It’s certainly not the answer to the Manifest V3 shenanigans.

    ruse8145 ,

    however its relatively rare that an ad company provides a bunch of services I want to use. The only exception i can think of is google.

    obvs its hard to avoid gmaps because the alternatives are beyond godawful (no, openstreetmaps, i didn’t want to go to the coffee shop of the same name in connecticut, I wanted to go to the one 3 km away), but for youtube I use a python tool called youtube-local which is very very effective, strong rec. Im sure google will defeat them eventually, but so far all of the incremental “block a little of this, block a little of that” stuff the g-man has been doing has been bypassed within a few days. Viewtube is also pretty easy to self-host, but they never quite figured out how to make the UI work.

    exanime ,

    Hey that’s awesome! Thanks for sharing

    chris_hayes ,
    @chris_hayes@lemmy.ml avatar

    Still not unheard of today if you’re using a VPN. For example, if you’re using Mozilla VPN (Mulvad), in the DNS settings it gives you choices between regular DNS, DNS + ad blocking, or DNS + ad blocking + tracker blocking.

    I did not know about WebWasher, that’s very interesting.

    TheChargedCreeper864 ,

    Firefox is looking to implement Manifest V3 to keep extension feature parity with Chromium, but their version will not ban the one API that adblockers use. So Firefox will eventually be V3 compliant

    archomrade , (edited )

    Maybe it’s my tinfoil hat but if any part of this is related to their google’s pursuit of ad revenue, I don’t imagine a v3 compliant Firefox will work with adblock for long.

    At the very least they would probably make using it a huge headache

    edit to make it clear who I was referring to

    NikkiDimes ,

    Firefox has ad revenue?

    archomrade ,

    I’m realizing that was unclear.

    I meant google’s maifest v3, not firefox’s implementation of it.

    NikkiDimes ,

    Ah, appreciate the clarification. I’d also just woken up and hopped on Lemmy, so maybe partially my fault 😋

    thesilverpig ,

    I switched to chrome because they were the first to have each tab be it’s own process so one bad site/connection did crash the whole program. Also the cloud based password saving across devices was super convenient.

    Firefox does both now too, has better ad blocking, and is a little less invasive and bloaty. A lot less invasive if you know how to set it up, which I don’t.

    But yeah, Firefox is my guy again

    SpaceCadet ,
    @SpaceCadet@feddit.nl avatar

    Same here. Made the switch back to Firefox a year ago when I saw the writing on the wall about where Google wanted to take Chrome with Manifest V3.

    Zink ,

    Fortunately I at least have Firefox on Linux. But then when I need to use Windows for something… well look at that, also Firefox!

    thefrankring ,
    @thefrankring@lemmy.world avatar

    Is that only for Chrome or all Chromium-based browsers?

    Trail ,

    Happy to be corrected, but as I have understood it in the past, all of them.

    ripcord ,
    @ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

    First one, then the others eventually.

    Just use Firefox :)

    zipzoopaboop ,

    I’ve used Firefox since before it was called Firefox, but just last week I hit two instances where stuff I required for work required Chrome :(

    PlutoniumAcid ,
    @PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world avatar

    Stuff you need for work don’t usually need any ad blocking to start with so that would be good enough.

    zipzoopaboop ,

    Still feels bad that I need it to be installed, and more stuff in the future could require it. They were major sites that my business works with and does not own

    themachine ,

    They don’t get money from installs. Just ads and google products usage.

    roofuskit ,

    If anything, only using it for sites that won’t generate ad revenue costs them money.

    billiam0202 ,

    Does it “require” Chrome, or does it require a Chrome user agent? I also have one of those sites for my job, but changing the user agent for that site in FFx works flawlessly.

    UnderpantsWeevil ,
    @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

    I’ve got an office that prioritizes Edge for internal apps. I’ve been watching the Clippy-esque intrusive Microsoft options filling up my screen space like a late-90s Yahoo toolbar.

    thefrankring ,
    @thefrankring@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s not that simple.

    I need very niche Chromium-based extensions for my work. They don’t yet exist on Firefox. Nor any replacements to my knowledge.

    They aren’t ad-related, but I don’t know what’s going to happen to them.

    SreudianFlip ,

    I, too, am forced to use Chrome for parts of my work.

    I just run Chrome for that set of tasks. Then quit, or tab to Firefox for regular browsing.

    This is SOP when dealing with uglies like google, microsoft, amazon, adobe, or meta: do the toxic thing or software they require, as sandboxed as reasonable, then get back to daily life and more knowable risks.

    thefrankring ,
    @thefrankring@lemmy.world avatar

    Currently, I use Brave. Not Chrome.

    I have all the benefits of Chromium-based without the Google’s spyware.

    I don’t see myself going back and forth between 2 web browsers. I prefer choosing one that fills everything that I need, sticking with it and moving on with my life.

    But since Chromium is mostly backed by Google, I don’t know the long-term implications of using Chromium based.

    SreudianFlip ,

    Yeah, but that’s just it, there is no one thing that fulfils all your needs if you are forced to use a particular tool, but it lacks privacy or freedom or other features.

    I use chrome because I have to and also am curious and I need to know about how Google runs its shit. I run Firefox because of various features it has that are good for web development. I run Safari because it is fast and relatively private outside of the Apple ecosystem And has some great developer tools.

    The effort of one keyboard twitch to move from one browser to the other is not really any amount of friction for me. It’s easier than switching from one tab to another inside the same browser, so I don’t get your fixation on a single tool.

    And as a PS, I won’t touch Brave with a 10 foot pole anymore because of their Fuckery with crypto.

    thefrankring ,
    @thefrankring@lemmy.world avatar

    Brave isn’t perfect but seems to be my best option so far.

    Most of the time, you can disable the ‘unpleasant’ stuff.

    But no web browser is perfect.

    Maybe Ungoogled Chromium could be good as well. But requires more tweaking and setting out of the box.

    Rolando ,

    Same. I got a cheap Chromebook and a no-contract flip phone and only use google on that.

    BorgDrone ,

    I’ll stick with Safari thank you very much. I don’t trust Firefox any more than I do Chrome. They have too much of a history of shady stuff.

    ripcord ,
    @ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

    OK, they asked about Chromium, though.

    BorgDrone ,

    Switching from Chrome to Firefox is like jumping out of the frying pan into the fire.

    ripcord ,
    @ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

    Not even remotely

    bc93 ,

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    BorgDrone ,

    Different incentives. Apple makes privacy a selling point, and I’m the one paying. Who’s paying for Chrome and Firefox?

    FlashMobOfOne ,
    @FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world avatar

    Yup. All the big guys will enshittify.

    Luckily, there’s Linux and you can use Brave or Firefox.

    Eezyville ,
    @Eezyville@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Isn’t Brave Chromium based?

    thefrankring ,
    @thefrankring@lemmy.world avatar

    Brave is Chromium based.

    kilgore_trout ,

    Both.

    jaschen ,

    Are they going to do this on Edge? Please don’t judge me. I love the “Continue on Mobile” feature.

    semitones ,

    Firefox has this feature too, just saying

    asexualchangeling , (edited )

    Firefox not only let’s you view tabs from your PC on your phone, it let’s you install extensions (like ublock origin) on the mobile browser

    machineLearner ,

    not the ios app unfortunately, due to webkit

    asexualchangeling ,

    I don’t think of apple browsers as anything other than flavored safari, so I forget to count that as firefox

    Demdaru ,

    I overall love Edge. But when the ads come running, I’ll have to switch :/

    boatsnhos931 ,

    https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/c6f9e222-afa5-4e69-b64b-5eb033ed2031.gif

    OfficerBribe ,

    Looks like they will follow Chromium so as with Chrome you have till 2025 June if you use ExtensionManifestV2Availability policy

    resetbypeer ,

    Well I will sound like an old bore but throughout the nearly 20 years Firefox is out I never looked at anything else. Seen the rise and fall of Internet Explorer seeing the rise and fall of chrome.

    Even Firefox in its dreadfully slow era (2010-2016) it did not made me change. And let me be clear Firefox is far from perfect. But for my use cases (privacy and security balance over certain conveniences) I would not change for any commercially backed Browser.

    Moral of the story. It’s better to donate to Mozilla and enjoy the freedom of your browser than giving yourself in on the erratic behavior of the big tech companies.

    gwen ,

    dont donate to moz lmfao if you look at the source code they collect absolutely everything, just use librewolf + betterfox.js/arkenfox.js

    SynopsisTantilize ,

    They collect everything? I’m on mint. I want extensions, and not have to run my browser like I need to tweak an OS. I just want it to work. What do I use?

    gwen , (edited )

    spyware.neocities.org/articles/firefox

    if user.js editing is too much of a pain then get plain librewolf, go to settings and enable history-saving:

    search bar ‘history’ > scroll to ‘history’ > disable ‘clear history when librewolf closes’.

    supports extensions just fine too! :)

    librewolf.net/installation/linux/installation for mint

    edit: why the downvotes? i cited a good source for my claims.

    edit 2: hackernews post about plain firefox being spyware, mental outlaw’s video on the topic and eric murphy’s video on this.

    KLISHDFSDF ,
    @KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml avatar
    1. Firefox doesn’t “collect absolutely everything”.
    2. DO donate to Mozilla as without them the Firefox, Tor, Mullvad, Floorp, Mull, Waterfox AND Librewolf browsers wouldn’t exist.
    3. Librewolf disables SafeBrowsing, which is a security must-have for anyone installing a browser for friends/family - and in many cases even for yourself.
    4. Even the Librewolf developers say "Safe Browsing is still a good security tool and Mozilla’s implementation is privacy respecting."
    5. Yes, if you know what you’re doing use Librewolf. For everyone else, Firefox is a great move.
    gwen ,

    oh, thanks for the information! it appears i was mistaken :}

    seth ,

    F I R E F O X already

    pyre ,

    since people here are more tech savvy than i could ever be if like to ask what you guys think of Vivaldi, because i like it a lot. super customizable, has quick command search, side panel lets me use some websites like extensions, and workspaces help me organize especially with work… has anyone used it and can anyone tell me if waterfox or other forks are better and how?

    PlexSheep ,
    • another chromium
    • GUI looks good
    • Cross platform
    • Highdpi kind of sucks on plasma 5
    • Fast
    • Not Firefox

    I tried it for a week, but eventually left back for Firefox.

    MonkderDritte ,

    Vivaldi is the new Opera, right?

    Murdoc ,

    If by Opera you mean as it was back in version 12 before it got sold to some chinese company and completely changed, then yes. Nothing to do with what opera is now.

    m_hrstv ,

    Vivaldi is cool af and I used it for a few years but ditched it for firefox the minute i read about manifest v3(2 years ago? don’t remember). Not the devs’ fault but I’ll be damned if i allow ads on my devices.

    pyre ,

    is that guaranteed to force all chromium browsers regardless? like, does that ban the ublock origin extension (or something to the effect of rendering it useless)?

    NatoBoram ,
    @NatoBoram@mastodon.social avatar

    It does! However, uBlock Origin has a "Lite" version that works with Manifest v3.

    https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home

    pyre ,

    wow. ok. time to experiment with Firefox forks.

    m_hrstv ,

    Yeah, all chromium-based browsers will be affected, sadly.

    airglow ,

    If Vivaldi were free and open source, it would make an interesting alternative to Ungoogled Chromium. But it’s not, so I’ll stick with extensions on Firefox (and Ungoogled Chromium as a backup).

    Murdoc ,

    It is source-available though, so that’s a plus.

    airglow ,

    According to Vivaldi’s blog post “Why isn’t Vivaldi’s browser open-source?”, all of Vivaldi’s UI is closed source and not source-available:

    Note that, of the three layers above, only the UI layer is closed-source. Roughly 92% of the browser’s code is open source coming from Chromium, 3% is open source coming from us, which leaves only 5% for our UI closed-source code.

    Keeping Vivaldi’s UI layer closed-source and obfuscated allows us to set these worries aside, so we can focus on the job at hand. It may not be a perfect solution, but as a business, we have to make decisions that minimize uncertainty, if only for our self respect as employees – and employee-owners.

    The UI is the main thing that differentiates Vivaldi from Chromium, and Vivaldi chose to keep it closed source and obfuscated for business reasons. That’s a negative compared to Firefox and Ungoogled Chromium.

    Murdoc ,

    Huh, hadn’t seen that bit before, thanks for that. Ok, well that is disappointing. I did notice this bit in there too though:

    What about security benefits? Even though most of the security-relevant code for Vivaldi browser is in Chromium, there is also some security-relevant code in the UI. If you think that specific security-relevant parts of the UI should be open-sourced to make Vivaldi more trustworthy, let us know, and we’ll consider putting it out as part of our code bundles, so you can check it for yourselves.

    It not much consolation, but it’s better than nothing. As it stands though, FF still has too many problems for me. I’ll have to see how this ad blocking thing shakes out though, might have to revisit my decision then.

    kamen ,

    As a long time user of Opera (from before they went with Chromium), I’ve been using Vivaldi as my primary browser since they first released a public preview. It has its downsides (i.e. the UI is slightly slower than that of Chrome), but at the same time it’s the thing that feels most “at home” for me after migrating away from the joke Opera has become. The developers seem to hold a strong anti-manifest-v3 stance, but unfortunately at one point they might have to comply. I just tried the built-in blocker instead of uBlock Origin I normally use and it seems to do a pretty good job.

    I get the whole “switch to Firefox” thing; for me the major blocker is that it doesn’t have global mouse gestures and this messes up with my muscle memory. If they add that, I might give Firefox another chance.

    a_wild_mimic_appears ,

    google chrome will go the way of netscape navigator and internet explorer. might take a while and a antitrust case or two, but we will get there… again.

    jol ,

    At least the EU is trying to cut its tentacles a bit.

    eddanja ,

    Chrome is the new Internet Explorer.

    huquad ,

    You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

    MacNCheezus ,
    @MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

    Always has been.

    nore ,

    Can’t wait for nothing to change 'cause 90% of chrome users don’t use add-ons.

    LainTrain ,

    How horrifying

    TheBlue22 ,

    Thank fuck I switched to mozilla

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