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BlackEco , in Steam users have spent $19 billion on games they’ve never played
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SchmidtGenetics ,

Yeah 75% of my library of 1500 games is from humble bundles, so paying like 10% of regular price.

Still a neat stat though.

ThirdWorldOrder ,

I feel it would be a lot more useful as trivia if we knew how much money that was per person as well.

SchmidtGenetics ,

And actual bought price, I think it used current market price. So lots of old games are going to be extremely undervalued.

Blxter ,
@Blxter@lemmy.zip avatar

Yea I bought one humble bundle (some earthquake relief or something?) and now I have like 150 games I will never play…

five82 , in Video Gabe
@five82@lemmy.world avatar

That’s just crazy talk. Crack some skulls and get Half-Life 2 out the door Mr. Newell. Everyone knows that you buy boxed PC games at the mall like normal people.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Next they’ll be saying that console makers will be selling their games over the internet!

jsomae , in Valve faces a £656 million lawsuit in the UK for 'overcharging 14 million PC gamers'

Steam, with its regular 80% off sales?

CaptainBasculin , in Team Fortress 2 is now at a 15% review score due to the #FixTF2 movement

Now we’re truly competing with Overwatch 2 on review score

rhacer , in Palworld reaches 1 million concurrent players on steam and becomes the first hit of 2024

I typically don’t download games in preview, but I’ve found quite a bit of depth and cozy fun here. There’s some weirdness and definite room for improvement, but I can recommend it.

It’s basically Pokemon in a survival world, but both your character and the Pals level up which is interesting, and the tech tree had some significant depth to it

getoffthedrugsdude ,

Have you caught a person yet?

HeapOfDogs ,

I tried this last night, i felt very guilty! To make myself feel better I then club penguins to death.

PennyAndAHalf ,

You can sell the human to the black marketeers if you want to get that off your conscience.

peopleproblems ,

holy shit brb

rhacer ,

I did not do that! Gonna have to try now!

SpaghettiYeti , (edited )

I just did not 10 minutes ago on a whim with a giga ball. Pretty useless character honestly. But fun that you can play him from a ball.

Duke_Nukem_1990 ,

welllll… have you crafted a Meat Cleaver yet?

SpaghettiYeti ,

Nah I skipped it in favor of the musket, which wrecks.

Ganbat , in How would you change the Steam Interface?

Make it less reliant on Chromium. There’s no good reason my library page should use nearly 1gb ram when it had nearly 0 footprint before moving it to Chromium.

And if they roll another chromium-based memory leak into the release? Fuck sake. I spent months only able to run Steam with Chromium disabled, something that’s no longer an option.

30p87 ,

And it’s extremely glitchy on Wayland with an Nvidia GPU, even with hardware based accel disabled. I moved from Spotify to spotify-tui and from Discord to a dedicated FF instance with canary.discord.com opened by default. It has a smaller memory footprint, that’s just sad. And of course it works much better.

Steam is the last thing requiring electron/chromium.

TalesFromTheKitchen , in GODOT ussage this week
@TalesFromTheKitchen@lemmy.ml avatar

I love seeing more people getting into Godot! It’s such a nice game engine with a fun learning curve and the scripting language is mostly hassle free.

scarilog ,

the scripting language is mostly hassle free.

Is there a reason Godot has it’s own language for scripting and doesn’t use a common language like unity (C#) and unreal (C++)?

randy ,

Here is their reasoning, basically summarized as “it’s easier to get everything for games into a new language than bolting it onto an existing language”. I also recall seeing a blog post where they said their initial implementation of GDScrip took fewer lines of code than embedding Lua did.

Note Godot does officially support C# and C++, and there is unofficial support for other languages too. But they commonly recommend GDScript for beginners.

Magusbear , in Do you think the steam search is bad?

I’ve never had the feeling that it was particularly bad. In your case it seems to be that the game Night Run was removed from the Steam Store, which is why it’s excluded from the search. Which isn’t great when the store page still exists…

ulterno , in What do you think of this prediction?
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

Good news. Unreal Engine 4 is usable on Linux and works pretty well too.
Learn some C++, get some ppl and make good games.

Also, GoG means old games don’t die. (well at least the non DRM ones)

Dave ,
@Dave@lemmy.nz avatar

GoG does DRM free, and not just old games. Not many new AAA because convincing a big company to sell their game DRM free is hard, but Baldur’s Gate 3 is on there.

Kazumara ,

And of course the ones they (i.e. CD Projekt Red) make themselves. The Witcher series, including Gwent spinoffs, and Cyberpunk 2077

Dave ,
@Dave@lemmy.nz avatar

Yeah, and lots of new popular indie games. Some recent oneish I’ve got are DREDGE, Rimworld and Stardew Valley. OK not super recent but not all the games are 20 years old or more. Even Skyrim Anniversary is on there.

ulterno ,
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Yeah, I recently bought X4, which is so badly implemented (at least on Linux) that it gives the same FPS (in the 30s) on Low settings as it does on Ultra.

I even went ahead and bought a new GPU just for that and hardly see a difference, even being suspicious of there being a miner in it.

Fun game nonetheless.

Lets_Eat_Grandma ,

x series has largely been cpu limited by single main thread as long as it’s existed fwiw

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

Wait, so all I had to do was disable my underclock and I would have gotten the same marginal perf gains that I got by upgrading both my CPU and GPU?

Will Egosoft hire me if I offer to refactor their code into something multithread friendly?

Lets_Eat_Grandma ,

I mean if you’re german you could try working for them lol

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

I mean if you’re german you could try working for them lol

That seems to be the main barrier, yeah.


But I checked htop while running the game and it doesn’t seem to be doing all single core stuff as you said. Unless it is that the bottlenecking thread is not even using the available core to the full extent.
I checked it out with both linux and linux-zen kernels.

Usually, when a program is loading on a single thread, you tend to see a single core go to 100% for a few seconds, which then jumps around as the OS switches the core provided to the thread. That was not happening here.
Also, the new GPU is sometimes at ~60-70% while the FPS is dropping to 30. This part was weird.

Lets_Eat_Grandma ,

All I know is what many have said time and time again. There is one main thread that everything else depends on, so no matter how much horsepower you throw at it you are constrained by whatever logic or calculation that one thread is doing.

For all I know it’s a memory bandwidth thing or even a disk access thing pertaining to that one thread which makes everything else wait. They use their own homegrown engine and there’s a bottleneck in the code somewhere, obviously.

I’m kind of surprised they don’t have something that’s more scalable because they built a new engine for X:Rebirth which came out in 2013. Maybe they started the engine rebuild before dual core and quad core cpus were mainstream in the late 2000s.

ulterno ,
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Well, when you make a multithreaded application, usually there is one main thread, which controls everything else, timings and all.

The alternativeis to have all threads know how to sync with whichever other thread they need to sync with, whenever they need to. This way tends to be more difficult (and I am yet to think of a use case and application methodology for this method).

Now usually you make sure not to have any blocking function (large calculation or file R/W requiring HDD fetching) on the main thread. Maybe they made some mistakes in this regard in their previous games and did better this time.

From what I see, it seems like they didn’t use the graphics API (seems to be Vulkan) properly enough, for which I can’t do anything, given my lack of exp with it. Perhaps a god time for me to delve into Vulkan.

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

I’m waiting for BG3 to make a Linux thingy. Until then, it’'s on the “maybe” list.

If it’s not native on Linux, it needs to be exceptionally good for me to buy it, considering GoG doesn’t have regional pricing.

Dave ,
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I’m playing BG3 on Linux on a laptop with integrated graphics, and I haven’t had any issues other than not being able to run it with graphics set to ultra (expected since there’s not graphics card).

ulterno , (edited )
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

How about “Customers in low income countries will pay the same full price for your game.” as a pitch.


Anti Commercial-AI license

TachyonTele ,

Having a hard time understanding what low income, sales price, and AI have to do with Valve.

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar
  1. The license is for the content of the post. Here, I put a separator.
  2. Valve has regional pricing, making some games cost a tenth of the price in some regions. GoG does not, so you pay the US price.
  • e.g. I bought X4 for ~4x the price of Average AAA console games.
  • Though, in case of X4, it seems to have a similar price on Steam, most games tend to be cheaper with regional pricing.

And now I forgot to put a license on this one.

TachyonTele ,

Don’t use the dumb footer link. It doesn’t do anything other than make sure everyone else points and laughs. You’re better than that.

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

What’s the problem with some laughter.

If there’s nothing to laugh at, people usually pick a loner, harass them until they are angry/miserable and then laugh at them.


I’d rather, they laugh at this, which might also throw a wrench in the works of companies trying to get data without sifting through it properly.

Anti Commercial-AI license


Wouldn’t it be even more fun if the AI chatbot got trained on this and started spewing out Anti Commercial-AI license in their results?

TachyonTele ,

which might also throw a wrench in the works of companies trying to get data without sifting through it properly.

Narrator: It has no effect at all.

Danterious ,

Its nice seeing more people using the license.

As a tip when I started doing this I started using a text expander so I didn’t have to copy and paste all the time.

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/deed.en

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

Well, KDE Clipboard seems to make it easy enough for me for now, but perhaps I will set a compose key for it if required.

My main problem tends to be forgetting to add it because I got too emersed in typing the comment.

And it’s kinda useless to add it after the fact, so most of the time, it works because I copy the license first.

CC BY-NC-SA

ILikeBoobies ,

Ue5 as well, not sure why you went back a version

joe_cool ,

Every game that I have seen that runs on UE5 either looks like a vaseline smeared blur or runs like crap.

Do you know one that runs great AND looks great? And I don’t mean in the trailer.

ILikeBoobies ,

I am not sure of the relevance, we are talking about the engine having a linux native version

joe_cool ,

Most engines can build on Linux. Even CryEngine. Maybe OP mentioned UE4 because it runs better than UE5.

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

Do you know one that runs great AND looks great

If you make one, then I’ll know one. ;)

verdigris ,

This is wildly not my experience. You can turn off motion blur in the vast majority of games… What’s your hardware?

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

I haven’t tried UE5

Also, they changed their licence midway, so a little unsure about it rn.

ILikeBoobies ,

The change doesn’t apply to games

The film industry previously was completely free, in versions 5.4 and above. It is now $1850 per seat for companies making over a million per year

jaybone , in List of countries that cannot make a PSN account, following the Helldivers 2 controversy.

I’m not a big gamer so I’m not entirely getting this. It sounds like the issue is they want you to link your steam and PSN accounts, which people don’t want to do. And in some countries it’s even a TOS violation.

My question is, why would they have such a requirement to link the two accounts in the first place?

Zoot , (edited )
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One RUMOR I’ve heard is so it looks like more people are registering with PSN, to make up for loss of PS sales? Doesn’t make the most sense, but I’m sure its a mixture of that and your data $$$

Edit: I’m sure they are using the increase of accounts to make theirs elves look more favorable. All around, it’s shitty, and helldivers will suffer for it. Steam has already allowed refunds from countries that can no longer play.

kerrigan778 ,

That would be pretty obvious fraud, I doubt that.

Zoot ,
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Which part? I’m sure it would be fraud to pad their numbers that way. Unless they used a seperate metric which looked favorable to shareholders since number of accounts goes up.

The data part I don’t think you meant to cast doubt on, thats a given.

kerrigan778 ,

I meant padding their numbers like that yes.

Heavybell , (edited )
@Heavybell@lemmy.world avatar

The legitimate reason is for crossplay. Sony said in the announcement it was for player “protection”, so they could ban people. Plus there is no doubt some data tracking going on.

Zoot ,
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But cross-platform worked just fine before this requirement? Or atleast well enough, I’ve been playing with a PS4 friend for the last month.

Heavybell ,
@Heavybell@lemmy.world avatar

Did it? I stand corrected, then.

Draedron ,

The publishet is Sony. This way Sony can harvest your data and has total control over bans. If they didnt force the links bans for pc players would go through steam and could be challenged over steam in the case of an unfair ban.

AlexisFR ,
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The only data they can get is what you already share in game. And a little portion of what is on Steam.

MeetInPotatoes ,

You obviously have to give them whatever data is required for a PSN account. You could give them fake personal data of course, but good luck remembering your fake info if you ever need to reset your password.

KairuByte ,
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That isn’t how bans work at all. The only bans which go through steam are VAC bans, and those are not a requirement.

MeetInPotatoes ,

You’re mistaken. If they make you log into PSN to play the game, then being banned via PSN would also lock you out of the game.

KairuByte ,
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That isn’t what they are saying. They claim Sony needs PSN for the game in order to enforce a ban, otherwise it has to go through Steam.

AlexisFR ,
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It’s a Sony online game and it shouldn’t have worked without an account in first place on PC. But they allowed it regardless due to server issues.

monsterpiece42 ,

It explicitly said you do not need a PSN account to play, in a number of places. Both on the game page, on the Sony FAQ page, and the Steam page too I believe.

It was bait and switch, which is why so many people are upset.

IvanOverdrive ,

For me, it was the 2011 Playstation Hack.

Credit card data was encrypted, but Sony admitted that other user information was not encrypted at the time of the intrusion.

After that, I swore I would never give a corporation that lax with personal information my own.

ichbinjasokreativ , in Steam now warns you if a game you're about to buy is already owned by someone in your Steam Family.

This is the kind of thing that makes poeple love valve

Carighan , in Steam News : Refund Policy Update
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I kinda like this.

It was weird that so far this wasn’t being done, and on top of that this might get the odd person to not pre-purchase something which is always a win.

warm ,

Also has a con, "advanced access" is just another dogshit way for publishers to farm money from people with their "deluxe" editions. By having people be able to refund could discourage this practice.

Psythik , in Overwatch 2 is the first game I see that does not have an Artwork page... I wonder why.

Since when is Overwatch on Steam?

scala ,

Since blizzard is desperate for players to return after each consecutive backlash.

avater ,
@avater@lemmy.world avatar

also because of the microsoft deal. Microsoft has acknowledged that the move to host games exclusively on BattleNet has failed and I think as soon as the deal is done, more and more games will move back to steam completely.

Chariotwheel ,

Also, Microsoft really wants to show right now that they're not gating plattforms.

worfamerryman ,

It’s a very very recent thing. But I think it still launches the blizzard launcher.

Steam should have a rule against that tbh.

Nefyedardu ,

It doesn't. You link your Steam account and it's 100% through Steam after that. No offense but why don't you just spend the 20 seconds to Google it rather than spreading false info...

worfamerryman ,

I’ll pass that along to the other person who posted this instead of taking 20 seconds to google it.

Tag365 ,
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You don’t “Google” something, you search it online…

HellAwaits ,

But I think it still launches the blizzard launcher.

Uh no it doesn’t. A 5 second google search could’ve told you that.

worfamerryman ,

Well I did say, “I think…”

warmaster ,

Since yesterday. Works great on Proton experimental. Even better than on Bottles or Lutris.

Astroturfed ,

Since the player base quit.

Templa , in What do you think of this prediction?

The fact that people non ironically visit 4chan in 2024 kind of worries me

koavf ,

I have heard for years and years that “the other parts of 4chan” than /b are good, but I’ve never seen it myself.

RabbitMix ,

I used to go on 4chan, on a variety of boards, every day for 10 years (06-16) some boards are better than others, and /b/ is definitely the worst by a lot, but they’re all terrible.

paddirn , in What do you think of this prediction?

Well, at least we’ve got global climate change and multiple other threats to the survival of humanity, we won’t have to worry for long.

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