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inclementimmigrant , in PlayStation's CEO drastically underestimates the Steam crowd's patience, thinks PC gamers will buy a PS5 for exclusive sequels

I mean maybe? I certainly was both a PC and Console gamer for most of my life now and I’m certain there will be a percentage that will continue to do so.

Nowadays? Nah, I’m out of the console game since graphics aren’t better than the PC and the PC options for playing on a TV are numerous now.

JusticeForPorygon , in Until Dawn will also require a PSN Account to play on Steam. I think we already got the message, every playstation game will now require a PSN account
@JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world avatar

So their gonna expand PSN access to more regions so people can play these games, right?

…right?

pro_grammer OP ,

Sony: lmao

ssm , in PlayStation's CEO drastically underestimates the Steam crowd's patience, thinks PC gamers will buy a PS5 for exclusive sequels
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Fixed title:

PlayStation’s CEO drastically overestimates the PC crowd’s wallet capacity, thinks PC gamers will buy an inferior, overpriced, locked down PC that can only play specific games on a non-replacable proprietary OS with planned obsolescence for when the PS6 comes out

reminiscensdeus ,

I’ll never not be a PC gamer but calling PS overpriced at the moment is wild. Compared to the cost of PC components right now 5 or 6 hundred is not ridiculous. That’s cheaper than mid to high tier GPU alone.

reminiscensdeus ,

and that’s accounting for a theoretical PS6, used PS5 rn is probably <$400.

Edit: typo

taladar ,

it is not as if used PCs with year old components aren’t cheaper than new ones. The console is significantly worse here because the subscription prices do not get reduced by anything because the hardware is older.

ayaya ,
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You are forgetting that you have to pay to play online. Your $500 console is an $800 console if you use it for 5 years. You can build a roughly PS5 equivalent PC (RX 6700) for more like $650-700 which is less overall.

Plus it’s a computer so you can also use it for normal computer things, and the games themselves are generally much cheaper with a huge backlog and sales all the time.

reminiscensdeus ,

I did forget that. Also that price point is awesome, I just dumped a ton on a fresh build. I didn’t want to minmax on it but it’s cool you can get it that low and still have that level of quality. Gotta hate NVIDIA.

TassieTosser ,

Also don’t forget living at the whim of the manufacturer with regards to backwards compatibility.

jjjalljs ,

My PC game library goes back literally 30+ years. (I think the oldest game I play occasionally is Eye of the Beholder, 1991. The original doom is still good and from 1993)

That has value.

reminiscensdeus ,

Tru

a_wild_mimic_appears ,

The Eye of the Beholder series really bring back childhood memories, even if i didn’t finish any of them - furthest i got was in EotB 2, and i after being stuck for a while in an area with those cultists i gave up. i didn’t even understand english back then lol

jjjalljs ,

I only had the first one. I found it at a yard sale, and luckily they also had the instruction manual and hint book. The game had a check where when you tried to go to the second floor, it would ask you like “what is the third word on the page with a picture of an axe in the corner in the instruction manual?”. Early DRM. If you got it wrong, I’m pretty sure you couldn’t proceed.

The hint book was also written in character from the point of view of someone who had gone before you. It was like an idiot noble and his long suffering servant. Great way of doing it.

MystikIncarnate ,

This is an excellent point. The availability of games.

On PC, you can play pretty much every game ever, with varying degrees of legality, whether directly, or indirectly using an emulator, with the only exception to this being very modern titles on consoles which do not have an emulator for PC yet, or that are still locked in a bullshit exclusivity deal.

Meanwhile, PS/XBox is limited to whatever Sony/Microsoft deems appropriate to have on their console.

On console you live and die by someone else’s rules, on PC, the sky is the limit.

ssm , (edited )
@ssm@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Perhaps in isolation, but given that most people need a PC, would you rather:

a) buy a subpar PC for productivity and a console that’s going to be wasted money in a few years’ time, and you need to invest even more money on a new console (unless you never want to play new games again), and/or pour a bunch of money into scam subscription online services to get games (or even play them at all if they’re online)

b) buy a good PC with money you would have otherwise spent on the console, that will last effectively until the hardware dies, and even then you can upgrade it instead of buying a new PC

I agree the LLM and cryptobro insanity has screwed the GPU market, but in the long run even at the current prices PCs are still a better deal.

reminiscensdeus ,

As I said I play games on PC so I would rather option B. I’m just saying that I don’t think PS is comparatively that expensive. If PCs are a better deal, it’s not by that much.

trslim , in Until Dawn will also require a PSN Account to play on Steam. I think we already got the message, every playstation game will now require a PSN account

Hows ps4 emulation these days btw?

olicvb ,
@olicvb@lemmy.ca avatar

Seems barebones : ( (but am still hopeful)

https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/213ef230-a1f9-43f3-b59c-886d92c45c41.png

[from rpcs4, there are more]

Sir_Kevin , in Until Dawn will also require a PSN Account to play on Steam. I think we already got the message, every playstation game will now require a PSN account
@Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I’m not necessarily opposed to needing a third party account for a game. VRChat for instance requires it but that makes it easy to use your same account on many different devices/platforms.

That said, Sony has a long track record of leaks, hacks, terrible and outright illegal practices and is generally shitty to their customers. So no, hell no, I will not sign up with them for anything.

ksynwa , in God of War Ragnarok will require a PSN account
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Pirate it. Simple as.Unless it has denuvo of course

kratoz29 ,

I wonder if this move will be a good incentive for pirating Sony’s games… I guess we will find out.

ksynwa ,
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For a live service game like Helldivers you could at least logically justify the account requirement but for an offline game like GoW it will just piss people.

helenslunch ,
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For a live service game like Helldivers you could at least logically justify the account requirement

Uhhhh what? No. The fact that it does not exist and has not existed for months shows that’s it’s not justifiable.

teawrecks ,

But you could come up with a believable reason for multiplayer. (Ex. Maybe the devs decided their servers wouldn’t scale and had to move to Sony’s, but those require users to have a Sony account.)

For single player, there’s not even a hypothetical excuse. They just want you to be inconvenienced for their own gain.

helenslunch ,
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My guy, the PSN requirement was suspended because it was causing server issues. You can use it RIGHT NOW without PSN…

ksynwa ,
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Not justifiable but one can weave some twisted logic to explain it. With single player games there is even less explanation.

StupidBrotherInLaw ,

Require a PSN account? My first thought was “arrrrr, not I!”

onlooker , in God of War Ragnarok will require a PSN account
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Sony be losing their marrbles if they think PC player’s won’t disarrm this requirement quite arrbitrarily. The adventures of snarrling Kratos and his charrge Atreiu in Asgarrd will be played on PC with or without this farrce.

Also, I must also apologize for my grammarr. I find arrticulating parrticularly harrd.

ForgottenUsername ,

We ain’t no filthy console peasants 🤣

onlooker ,
@onlooker@lemmy.ml avatar

Nay. We be PC arristocracy!

lemmy_nightmare ,
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Based

p5yk0t1km1r4ge ,
@p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world avatar

Why did you say it like that?

Robert7301201 ,

I’ll give you a hint: Arr!

bennieandthez , (edited ) in PlayStation's CEO drastically underestimates the Steam crowd's patience, thinks PC gamers will buy a PS5 for exclusive sequels
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bruh there are like a billion games on the steam store, no one is desperate for exclusive games anymore 😂

Fubarberry , in PlayStation's CEO drastically underestimates the Steam crowd's patience, thinks PC gamers will buy a PS5 for exclusive sequels
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I have enough games in my steam library that I could never buy another game, and be perfectly content. I’m quite willing to wait as long as it takes for a game to not only be brought to steam, but to get a major sale or be featured in a game bundle. Only difference is that if it takes too long, I’ll never get it at all because I’ll have better options.

PDFuego ,
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I have enough games in my steam library that I could never buy another game, and be perfectly content

So, just Rimworld then.

Honestly though, same. I was really interested in Ghosts of Tsushima when it launched. Now years later it’s finally on PC but it costs more than I usually pay for new games. Fuck that. The only way I’m buying a PS5 is if a friend wants one and is willing to let me get it, play FF7 & 16 then sell it to them in a few months.

Fubarberry ,
@Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz avatar

So, just Rimworld then.

Not rimworld specifically, but when I was younger I played the hell out of my games. I would replay them over and over, finding every secret. Big RPGs already take a long time to beat, but I would do multiple playthroughs as different classes and play styles.

These days I have less time and way more games. There’s a part of me looking for an excuse to not buy any interesting new game because I feel guilty about all the great games I own and haven’t played, and the games I have played I’ve only played once and haven’t “finished”.

entropicshart , in Until Dawn will also require a PSN Account to play on Steam. I think we already got the message, every playstation game will now require a PSN account

Oh no! Guess I’ll just grab one from the high seas instead then.

Desmond373 , in Until Dawn will also require a PSN Account to play on Steam. I think we already got the message, every playstation game will now require a PSN account

Well that sucks, I guess I’ll be playing without buying then.

NOT_RICK , in Until Dawn will also require a PSN Account to play on Steam. I think we already got the message, every playstation game will now require a PSN account
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Sony’s about to get a lot of Munchma Quchi’s and Deez Nutz creating accounts. Too bad they won’t care because a line will go up

v4ld1z ,
@v4ld1z@lemmy.zip avatar

That first name was new to me. Cheers

NOT_RICK ,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

It’s from one of the few times Stephen Colbert broke character on the Colbert Report

ChallengeApathy , in God of War Ragnarok will require a PSN account
Shialac , in God of War Ragnarok will require a PSN account

How do they justify some shitty account for an offline singleplayer game?

lilja ,
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Even single-player games aren’t single-player anymore with all the online-requiring bullshit publishers have shoved into their games. The game most likely comes with a fuckton of telemetry and user-behaviour tracking which is a lot more valuable to Sony if it can be attached to a specific user.

pro_grammer OP ,

“Fuck you”, that’s their argument

szczuroarturo ,

The same way Ubisoft, EA or whoewer else has their own fancy launcher.

Its an incredibly stupid thing but unfortunetly nothing new

lud ,

At least with ghost of tsushima you only needed an account for the online co-op mode.

saddlebag , in God of War Ragnarok will require a PSN account

There’s a fair amount of sailor talk around here. Any captains manage to get their booty to run on Linux? I tried ff7 remake to no avail

domi ,
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Of course! If it has an installer, run it through Bottles first.

  • Mount the ISO file in KDE/GNOME
  • Create a new bottle in Bottles
  • Open the bottle and select the executable on the mounted ISO to start
  • When choosing an install directory, install to the Z: drive if possible so you don’t have to look for the files in your Bottles prefix
  • Follow the installer normally

Once done, you can either start the game directly in Bottles or create a non-Steam shortcut in Steam and select the exe of the game you just installed.

I prefer running it through Steam because then I always have access to the latest Proton versions.

Didn’t try FF7 but played Alan Wake 2 like this.

helenslunch ,
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Mm-hmm, I know some of these words…

Gebruikersnaam , (edited )
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I’ve also noticed that for some repacks it is better to use a different runner to install and then switch to a gaming runner for running the game.

edit: kron4ek specifically

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