Another option may be to try using a dummy plug to fake a monitor with whatever resolution and aspect ratio you need. There are scripts that work with the sunshine/moonlight combo already listed that will switch your primary to the dummy plug when connected and switch back on disconnect.
Yea! It’s just an hdmi plug with no cable that makes your machine think that a monitor is plugged in. They are about $5-$10 online. You can set it to whatever resolution that you want so when you turn your main monitor off, this dummy monitor is still “on” and it will be what gets used when you start streaming to another device. There are ways to automatically switch to this dummy monitor and turn off all other monitors when you connect to stream and set everything back when you disconnect but I haven’t messed with that yet.
Too bad with how the devs lied and told me people who complained to leave. They only acted like the are on the side of the players after the shit storm got too big. My bad review stays
It’s important that people who gave a negative review over PSN go back and change their review now. If the community shows that review scores will go back to positive after getting what we want, it will make other companies in the future more willing to give up unpopular decisions.
Also the devs deserve a good review score from what I’ve seen, this wasn’t really their fault and I wouldn’t want them to suffer any more for it.
I agree with you except for the fact that Sony has yet to change the region lock out or remove the PSN account requirement on the Steam store listing. Talk is cheap and that’s all Sony has done so far.
I’m not saying they should be rewarded but the penalty should be removed. I’m not saying people should go give it a positive review if they didn’t already have one, I do think the negative reviews should at least be removed. If Sony reneges then there will obviously be a huge backlash again and “we ain’t gon get fooled again”.
Quick reversal shows that community is proactive in recognizing good and bad actions, so that even if reviews flip to good again it can quickly become negative. So I don’t think there is a need to hold off on changing reviews back to positive. Showing that the community is actively engaged is good to demonstrate.
It’s important that there’s a benefit to them giving up something they wanted. If the reviews don’t get better after they gave up forcing PSN, then Sony would have been better off keeping the requirement. Other companies would look at this situation, and think that once Sony made the initial mistake, they would have been better off doubling down instead of backing off.
You’re wanting this to be an example of “don’t make stupid corporate decisions or you’ll get punished”, but that I’m very confident that companies will still make stupid decisions because they’re so out of touch they don’t realize their ideas are stupid. Instead it’s easier to get good results with situations like this if companies see that there’s a way out: to do what the people want and get their review score back.
A business treats me like shit they don’t get my business anymore, they can come begging all they want, it’s their fucking job to please their customers and they failed at it. I feel like you guys are just a bunch of Sony bots spamming the place all of the sudden.
I am curious how this is going to effect the number of active players. I know a lot of people who were trying to get me to play this saying it was here to stay and not a trend like a Lethal Company but I feel like this hurdle might be enough to get them to give up.
I definitely have a low level of tolerance for Russian nesting dolls of accounts and launchers.
Vocal minority is the assumption when this sort of collective outrage manifests. This time though, thanks to Steam player count we will actually get some hard numbers and see if that has an effect or not.
At current, there are 32k negative reviews. That’s 32,000 people angry enough to go add or modify a review to be negative. The active player base is 100k. As far as “vocal minority” goes…
The game racked up over 10k negative reviews in 90 minutes yesterday. People are pissed. There’s also the issue of PSN only being available in a about a third of all countries.
I just uninstalled the game over this and I have 350+ hours.
They fumbled a (bigger) bag with this whole dungeon master Joel meme. This will be the last straw for many.
The player base is tearing itself apart with conservatives getting genuinely furious about the Creek incident and team-killing participants on sight while everyone else just wants to have fun playing the game.
With things like these you need to lean HARD away from the idiot fascists in all media out of game. They did not, and are reaping the consequences.
I don’t know either, but since “conservatives” are pissed, I bet it’s reeeeaaaaalllll fucking stupid. Bunch of whiney ass titty babies cry over everything.
What in the world happened? I played a lot in the first few weeks and remember the Creek situation as just being some people who played that planet constantly. How tf did real world politics come into that situation specifically?
Yeah I know about that, like I indicated in my comment up there. How in the world do conservatives factor into that situation? That’s what the commentor above said and I’m curious.
Yeah even if some people keep playing. Someone like myself who was entertaining of getting it would be turned off by seeing negative reviews (why go through the drama if I’m on the fence?).
This is on PC and unlike some other ported PS games I don’t think there is an option to play offline I imagine a lot of people are going to be creating PSN accounts I’d say that’s a hurdle for some people.
Crossplay is mandatory, and linking an account for crossplay was always mandatory, they had issues at launch, paused the requirement, and are now reestablishing it.
Thats kinda on them, or for Steam for selling it in their location, but they probably bypassed that to get the game.
From launch until now, creating a PSN account was optional due to technical issues. And while this wasn’t properly conveyed to the playerbase, the game was sold in tons of regions where you straight up can’t make a PSN account. Something like 50+ out of 123 regions where the game was sold cannot make PSN accounts. And using a VPN or lying about your region to make an account is a bannable offense.
The privacy complaints I have more of an issue with since GameGuard, the DRM used, is just as much, if not more, of a privacy issue compared to Sony’s horrible data security and invasive data harvesting. GameGuard has kernel level access to the entirety of your system while it’s running, usually installs itself as an on boot up background process, and has been caught by anti-virus software editing files outside of the game directory.
The first is a genuinely refund worthy issue, if not a class-action lawsuit in the making, while the second one is people being ignorant to how much data they’re actually giving away.
I’m curious how you are so bold to say something as patently false as your first sentence with such confidence knowing that anyone with the game can deactivate it in settings and it works without a PSN account anyway.
I didn’t get the game because it’s packed full of all the terrible corporate stuff you see in terrible corporate games. Always Online, Rootkit anticheat, in-game store to purchase items when the game is already expensive. I doubt adding “must give your information to Sony” is going to be the tipping point for anyone who is fine with everything else.
Why does a fully cooperative game needs an anti-cheat software in the first place. I don’t give a fuck about cheaters as long as its not competitive. Deep rock galactic for example works great without all of this bullshit.
To prevent people from spawning in unreleased content that is in the game, giving their group the maximum cap of in-game currency, and so on. Tamps down on the boosting market.
Exactly. That’s why I play with cross play off on PS5, but I also think PC players shouldn’t get locked out if they can’t make an account in their country, so in my eyes that’s the big fuck up. And it’s Sony’s fault, not Arrowhead. They should foot the community wrath and the remedy.
If i happen to encounter such stuff, i just leave. And for stuff like moneycheat that would affect my savegame, DRG for example provides a couple of backupsaves to roll back. So i can easily avoid being affected by cheaters and if others want to cheat, i just don’t mind. But i would mind having to install a rootkit of questionable origin.
I signed into an old PSN account when I first downloaded the game near launch. It is in game. No launcher. I signed in once and forgot about it until right now. Not really a big deal. If your worried about security make some bogus email up and make an account that way. But other than signing in one time it hasn’t been a deal. 🤷♂️
I play with a couple of friends in the Baltics. I have PSN. There is no PSN in the Baltics. So I guess I can’t play with the friends I solely bought this game for.
Just because it doesn’t affect you doesn’t mean it’s silly to complain about this.
Hopefully Sony will see this as the biggest problem and do something about it. I don’t think these people should have been able to spend money on this for it to be taken away, but that’s a storefront issue as well. Steam and Sony will have to make some decisions about this, cause it wasn’t thought out and implemented very well. They should’ve had some stronger safeguards.
I bought the game on release week. I don’t play often but when I do it’s with friends. After hearing about this incident my plan was to wait a few days or a week to see how it resolves before deciding if I want to refund the game. However, enough of my friends have already refunded the game that, if they don’t come back, I likely won’t be playing much if at all anyway so I’ll probably refund the game this week as well, especially if nothing changes.
They put out a single statement with no action, and everyone online instantly went “WE WON IT’S TIME TO CHANGE BACK TO POSITIVE!” and then a lot of cringy RP about democracy.
I use Steam Link on the Deck to do this often. Personally I just leave it in 16:9- the Deck just displays horizontal black bars to get from 16:10 to 16:9. For me that’s just part of the Deck experience because even a ton of games I play locally are 16:9 only, or even 4:3.
You can choose to match the resolution as well. On your host PC go to steam -> settings -> remote play -> [advanced host options] and look for something like “Match desktop resolution to client”.
It also depends on what you are doing. I find that more resource-intensive games are often better streaming- better battery life with less heat and fan noise on the Deck. So changing the individual game settings to 1200x800 works well.
I don’t use that just to access files though. I have several folders on my desktop set up as SMB shares and installed another file explorer (Nautilus) to access it. I mostly use it to move around PS2, GameCube, and Wii roms- everything else is either just permanently on my SD card or I’m able to regularly install via Steam.
For non-Steam game saves, I set up SyncThing to synchronize across devices.
Hopefully “we’re still trying to learn what’s best for PC” isn’t some sort of code for “PC players are too whiny and won’t bend the knee, this weekend was bad PR that wasnt worth it. we just won’t release future games on PC”
I mean $107 million in Steam sales within 2 months is something worth it for Sony to put up with a whiny playerbase. If there’s something I know Sony likes, it’s more money. I doubt they will pass up the opportunity to collect money from PC gamers, and digging their heels letting players develop grudges against them were going to hurt Sony’s future sales figures all around than what they would have benefited from PSN integration.
“We want to try to convince you that this was unintentional and not a calculated business decision that was made with the objective of profit at your expense.
We want you to believe that our multi-billion dollar company did not foresee this even though we have hundreds, if not thousands, of business analysts who work for us globally who definitely suggested this was a possibility in the first 10 minutes of account linking on PC after 4 months being suggested internally.
Also our PR people probably suggested it as a possibility.
Also our legal team probably suggested it as a possibility.
But even though we analyze the industry and the market and the users, and the business, and the case studies, and the marketing, and the games constantly, not stop, day and night, globally; please believe us that we are still trying to learn whats best for PC teehee.
In the future, we will be sure to try to force you into account linking from the beginning with any future release.
Please ignore our transgressions and instead give us money. Goodbye”
To be the Devil’s advocate, I’ve noticed that PC gamers are unpleasable, they all have different machines to optimize, they sometimes play a new game on their shit machine and give an unfair bad rating based on that, throwing off the review ratings, and something like %35 of PC gamers pirate their games. That honestly doesn’t sound like an attractive market to me 🤷♂️
Love how you say that while ignoring that the difference between total sales and PS sales is topping the charts and hitting 20th place. But yes, let’s talk about the pirates some more.
End of the day, a lot of people prefer consoles. I looked up the price of making a gaming PC even comparable to a ps5 or Xbox and it was easily double the price. And I don’t wanna hear about PC building, I could build my own car too but I don’t want to.
You come home pop in a game and it works, and years later new games come out and they work! With PC you’re outdated within a year
Bro, you’re the one shitting on everything here by being misinformed. But you take any critique of your opinion as hate and then get defensive af. Lol…
35% of players don’t pirate every game… Thats absurd. If you’re referring to the pc gamer survey from like 10 years ago, there was way more nuance to it than that. Go read more than the headline please.
But even so, its not up to the consumers to bend over and be “pleasable”. Devs should treat the platform well, instead they shit out bad ports, they dont bother with basic options, they require more layers of launchers and stores, drm, kernal anti cheat, etc etc etc.
The pc market is huge, even excluding people who haven’t upgraded in 10 years. Its plenty attractive
It hurts, but PC gamers are the most toxic, unpleasable, tribalist gamers out there. This thread is proof. I’m getting a lot of hate and no actual facts. You debate my source numbers, but you provide none in return.
I’m not a PC player but you start off attacking a whole group of people and wonder why they get upset about it. Take a step back and reevaluate your position.
You know, part of me wants to believe there was actually nothing malicious going on here and when this all went down some guy at Sony was just very surprised this turned out to be a big deal and wa just kinda like “if it matters that much to you we just won’t do it I guess, idc.”
I don’t even work for Sony and “you need to create a third party account to play our game” isn’t something I expected to generate 300k negative reviews in 3 days. There are a lot of games that come with third party accounts and launchers. With all the shit companies like EA, Epic, and Ubisoft force onto their players, I’m genuinely surprised this caused any pushback.
We think the main reason was the amount of countries you couldn’t make a PSN account in, locking out a lot of people from playing a game they bought. So honestly, with that in mind, it’s probably justified.
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