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techingtenor , in Sony does not remove purchase restrictions from Helldivers 2 on steam and also adds them to Ghost of Tsushima

Am I crazy or does that screenshot have Japan in it? Why would a Japanese company ban a game about Japan in Japan?

3volver ,

Because corporate greed has no boundaries.

Piemanding ,

Weren’t they saying they had a separate version or something?

lud ,

Yes, for some reason Japanese games often have a separate package on steam which includes Japanese.

Piemanding ,

It’s probably just hard to include both character sets since the game was originally made in English with specific programming for Roman lettering. Same thing with GTA V. Any Chinese/Japanese/Korean characters just turned into squares.

lud ,

It’s possible, but I doubt that is a problem these days with Unicode.

Someone mentioned something about copyright for the Japanese voice actors. That seems odd too, but it seems plausible.

GardenVarietyAnxiety , in Sony does not remove purchase restrictions from Helldivers 2 on steam and also adds them to Ghost of Tsushima

Out of the loop, but still curious… Is this due to the PSN login stuff?

Veritrax ,

Yes, Sony started enforcing a requirement to link a PSN account in order to be able to keep playing Helldivers 2. This was months after launch, after being sold in dozens of countries where people can’t make PSN accounts. Sony responded by just delisting Helldivers 2 from those countries. Looks like they’re doing the same thing with Ghosts of Tsushima and delisting it from countries that can’t make PSN accounts.

GardenVarietyAnxiety ,

So they stepped back the login requirement with the whole “We heard your feedback, Gamerz!” line, but are clearly getting things set up to just do it later anyway?

Wow.

Krakaval ,

Typical “We are sorry you feel that way” bs.

I perceived it as: “We heard your feedback, as such we fired the community manager, and will hire a new one who will be capable of keeping the community quiet”

muhyb ,

Yup, they made it optional for Helldivers 2 but made it mandatory for Ghost of Tsushima. And future PS releases as well.

GardenVarietyAnxiety ,

That’s a shitty move. I really hope it backfires.

ramble81 ,

Optional for HD2 but the fact that they restricted the countries most likely means they’ll try it again.

Stern , (edited )
@Stern@lemmy.world avatar

More particularly its mandatory if folks want to use multiplayer. Since thats all HD2 is that effectively bricks the game outside psn countries. In Ghosts case, its single player, which doesn’t require it, (per their devs), but does have multiplayer elements which would require it if you use them.

reksas , in Sony does not remove purchase restrictions from Helldivers 2 on steam and also adds them to Ghost of Tsushima

So they plan on putting psn crap back after things cool down

LainTrain , in Vietnam ban access to Steam

What’s been happening in Vietnam? First there was that thing with movies now this? They seemed to be on the up and up a few years ago.

harald_im_netz ,

Steam is not paying taxes in Vietnam, and they have no official employee in Vietnam, that serves as a contact person. The latter is required by law. E.g. Shops need to have a shield on their front, giving contact information, and communicate clearly who’s behind this shop (private person or company).

harald_im_netz ,

btw thay’s the same reason why Steam Germany has exactly ONE employee.

bitfucker ,

LMAO, must be fun when people asked that you are the sole employee at valve/steam

harald_im_netz ,

In Germany. As far as I know the guy has a great time :-)

LainTrain ,

I believe you, do you have a good source on this?

harald_im_netz ,

No, read that on r/steam from a vietnamese user, and it’s my first-hand experience regarding Germany. Still, might be wrong. But people tend to jump on South-east Asian (SEA)-countries, smelling suppression, and malintent, when often it’s common law, even in western countries, but newly enforced in SEA countries

Thcdenton , in Sony does not remove purchase restrictions from Helldivers 2 on steam and also adds them to Ghost of Tsushima
theareciboincident , in Sony does not remove purchase restrictions from Helldivers 2 on steam and also adds them to Ghost of Tsushima

Popes these days are so woke. Back when popes were real men, the Emperor of Japan would be excommunicated and crusade called to reclaim Kyoto for this unprecedented insult

Maestro , in Sony does not remove purchase restrictions from Helldivers 2 on steam and also adds them to Ghost of Tsushima

How many times must we teach you this lesson, old man?

Got_Bent , in List of countries that cannot make a PSN account, following the Helldivers 2 controversy.

I don’t know what a PSN account is, but I’m surprised you can get one in North Korea.

ILikeBoobies ,

Sony Account (PlayStation Network account)

TheWolfOfSouthEnd ,

I’ve always wondered how much we are lied to about North Korea.

CaptnNMorgan ,

I would imagine, very little

TheBest , in Sony does not remove purchase restrictions from Helldivers 2 on steam and also adds them to Ghost of Tsushima
@TheBest@midwest.social avatar

It sucks they’re enforcing it but at least steam is accurate now ffs

JoeKrogan , in Sony does not remove purchase restrictions from Helldivers 2 on steam and also adds them to Ghost of Tsushima
@JoeKrogan@lemmy.world avatar

Corporate cunts.

ashaman2007 , in Can steam link run with guest aspect ratio / resolution

Server github.com/LizardByte/Sunshine

Client moonlight-stream.org

The game/screen is captured and streamed to the client, and screen size doesn’t matter. I tried playing Elden Ring on my phone and it worked 😂 although touch controls were shit

rando OP ,

let me check this, thanks

rando OP ,

Set it up on 2 machines. For 1 machine I need to figure out pfsense rules since I restrict traffic from any other machine altogether. Works perfectly fine for other machine

besbin , in Vietnam ban access to Steam

Doesn’t seems to be an official ban. My friends in Vietnam are still able to access Steam just an hour ago. This is most likely a situation like those manga websites black listed by Comcast or AT&T DNS.

Aphelion , in Helldivers 2 reviews start to improve after Sony backs down from enforcing PSN account linking

Right now, Sony has yet to update the Steam listing to remove the PSN account requirement or the region lock out. Don’t update your reviews to positive yet. Talk is cheap and all Sony has actually done it put out a statement to appease fans and stop the damage.

Strider ,

This a thousand times.

Kecessa ,

Or better yet, never update your review because fuck them.

Aphelion ,

It’s still a good game, and Arrowhead is trying to do right.

Kecessa ,

They had their chance, they failed, there’s thousands of devs doing better but you guys are too busy kissing their feet to see you’re being played for fools.

AceCephalon ,
@AceCephalon@pawb.social avatar

Think of it like this: Arrowhead, the developers, spent almost 8 years developing the game, getting funding throughout from Sony, which managed the publishing side of things so they could focus on game development.

Then, around 6 months before release, over 7 years of development up to that point, Sony wanted PSN to be required for the game, and clearly by release time, that was not enough time to even implement or test that well enough.

Their hands were tied years in advance, they couldn’t just let almost 8 years of their development time go to waste over one decision by their publisher, nor could they reasonably go against the publisher or get a new publisher only about 6 months before release.

On their end, they didn’t do anything particularly wrong, unless they could see the future over 7 years before and realize Sony was going to practically pull the rug out from under them with everything in Sony’s favor, a decision only actually made far more recently.

Kecessa ,

Yeah they released the game to markets where PSN isn’t available

Womp womp

No pity from me.

Aussiemandeus ,
@Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone avatar

Game theory says to always reciprocate in kind and always enable kindness.

They punch you, punch back, then be friends

callouscomic , (edited )

That’s why it’s still just a theory.

Edit: /s was just a joke because it’s got theory in the name.

Aussiemandeus ,
@Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone avatar

“A theory is a carefully thought-out explanation for observations of the natural world that has been constructed using the scientific method, and which brings together many facts and hypotheses”

Another explanation is here,

www.amnh.org/exhibitions/…/what-is-a-theory

Theory doesn’t mean what you think it means in the context of “Game Theory”

callouscomic ,

It was a joke.

halcyoncmdr ,
@halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world avatar

So is gravity. Outside colloquial usage, a Theory is well-substantiated with empirical evidence. Game Theory is one of those.

callouscomic ,

Was just poking fun.

Woozythebear ,

Found the shill

Rentlar ,

Can you please contribute more to your Lemmy conversations than going around calling people shills and other things? Thank you.

Woozythebear ,

I get called a bot and tons of other things all over Lemmy. So no, I’ll say what I want to say.

Adm_Drummer ,

Silence, Bot!

Manzas ,
Zuberi ,
@Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Found another shill!

JoshuaSlowpoke777 ,

That being said, I question how that applies in this context. Corporate leadership doesn’t exactly strike me as trustworthy nor worthy of mercy, although that could be a lean toward cynicism on my part.

Aussiemandeus ,
@Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone avatar

If we don’t change reviews back then they have no reason to keep their word. Lose lose

We do change reviews back they have good reviews and need to keep their word to ensure this doesn’t happen again. Win win

We change reviews back they lie, we just change ours back to negative again and go about our days. Lose lose

knightly ,
@knightly@pawb.social avatar

You’ve got that backwards.

They’ve been convicted in the court of public opinion. This reversal doesn’t make them innocent of their crimes, but it does justify reducing the sentence to parole.

The black mark stays on their record, but they have the opportunity to start rebuilding trust. If they want good reviews on future titles they need to avoid squandering the chance to prove they deserve them.

hglman ,

That isn’t a universal conclusion…it applies to multi trial prisoners dilemma. This isn’t that.

Aussiemandeus ,
@Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone avatar

It applies everywhere, the whole movie a beautiful mind is based around game theory.

The scene where they cooperate means someone goes home with the girl but if they fight no one does etc.

Seriously look it up, it applies everywhere.

Here I did the hard work now you just watch and pay attention.

youtu.be/mScpHTIi-kM?si=DJM_Ze98ISUQXdz2

hglman ,

Omg, yes, game theory applies everywhere. No, the correct strategy isn’t universally “reciprocate in kind and always enable kindness”. There is no universal game with a universally correct solution.

folkrav ,

We’re dealing with a faceless corporation here, not a reasonable person.

capital ,

Want a protest like this to work next time?

Kecessa , (edited )

Oh, I don’t know, what do you think will teach them a lesson between losing sales for a few days or losing sales long term? 🤔

The financial impact will have been minimal and that’s what’s important to them, they were expecting to make X$ from this game this year, now Sony will have lost a week’s profit from few players because people are jumping back in when they could have made Sony lose years of profit from a lot of players by leaving negative reviews and by not playing or paying for currencies anymore.

It’s corporations we’re dealing with, not people, we don’t owe them anything, especially not pardon.

Wanna see how they learned they’re lesson?

kotaku.com/ghost-of-tsushima-pc-playstation-netwo….

capital ,

You linked a different game which we seem to know will require PSN before it’s sold.

So don’t buy games which require PSN?

If people don’t buy it and tell Sony it’s because of the PSN requirement, it will reinforce the point made during the Helldivers debacle.

Kecessa ,

Helldivers 2 required PSN from the moment it became available, it was just put on hold while the servers were catching up to the demand.

As I said, they didn’t learn a thing and will learn even less if people just go back to rewarding them with money because they put PSN implementation on hold for a single game.

capital ,

So the product was going to be changed to match what was advertised as a requirement?

What was everyone mad about?

Kecessa , (edited )

The game was made available in countries where PSN isn’t available and people don’t read requirements because they assume that if it’s available to them then they just need to have a PC that can run it and PC players hate having to use a bunch of services to play their games.

Mubelotix ,
@Mubelotix@jlai.lu avatar

If the consequences are definitive, we are less likely to see this again. If the consequences can be reverted, we are more likely to get out of these situations again. Both methods work

Numenor , in List of countries that cannot make a PSN account, following the Helldivers 2 controversy.

The combined estimated total population of those countries would be roughly around 4.6 to 4.7 billion people.

Jolteon ,

So, literally more than half the world.

jol ,

But corporations see $$ so it’s the half of the world that isn’t important.

SuddenDownpour ,

After taking a look at the map, this sounds very, VERY off.

Brosplosion ,

Only off about 3 billion or so, not that far!

elrik ,

Right? I was too lazy to double check, but yeah, the original claim seems absurd considering it’s missing at least the top 5 most populated countries representing nearly 4 billion people.

Numenor ,

Hehehe

ChrisHatesGeese ,

Counterpoint: no it isn’t.

reksas , in Helldivers 2 went from one of the most beloved Steam games to one of the most hated pretty quickly

I sure am happy i didnt buy this earlier because of the enforced rootkit.

Silentiea ,
@Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Honestly there were a few reasons I didn’t get it, but I’ll say the rootkit was a big one.

kaputter_Aimbot ,

Kernel Level Anti Cheat… In a co-op game!?

Why they did this is beyond me! 😔

Retrograde ,
@Retrograde@lemmy.world avatar

Oh no! Billy cheated his way to a new cape!! 🙄

It really is quite silly. There aren’t even leaderboards or anything

yamanii ,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

Billy cheating made you unlock everything in 1 too, that’s their reasoning at least.

Retrograde ,
@Retrograde@lemmy.world avatar

And fair enough, but you need to install a rootkit on my machine so Billy can’t get me a new cape?!

bhamlin ,

Lies!

It was a silly hat.

joe_cool ,

It’s doubly puzzling, because that component is just disabled on Linux and Steamdeck.

Buddahriffic ,

Yeah, that had me already decided that if I did get it, it would be on ps5 not pc. Though this move will probably make me do that in general for any ps exclusive game they make a pc port of.

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