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Alexstarfire , in What do you think of this prediction?

I think I have enough to worry about already without worrying about what ifs.

deadbeef79000 ,

This isn’t a what if, it’s a what when.

Alexstarfire ,

No, that’s an assumption. Probably correct. But if you can see into the future you should buy some lotto tickets or some stocks.

deadbeef79000 ,

Technically we’re assuming Gabe is mortal, yes.

Alexstarfire ,

Yes, that’s clearly the part I was referring to. 🙄

drunkpostdisaster ,

This is something we have more power to do something about.

EnderMB , in What do you think of this prediction?

The direct transfer of power in tech is often to someone that will carry the torch. It’s quite rare that a successor is picked that has been at the company for years, but wants to change practically everything about it. For that reason, I can see Gabe passing to a like-minded person that already knows that they are a succession candidate.

But ultimately none of us know Gabe, or what he plans to do. He may have a 100 step plan to secede power, or he might get to 65, say “that’ll do” and just sell up and retire to a remote island somewhere. The plans might have been in place for years, or he might not want to consider Valve without him. Hell, he might not even think that Valve should exist without him. It’s impossible to guess, so it’s not worth worrying about…

hglman ,

It seems worth worrying about if only to try and make valve think about the future.

Lets_Eat_Grandma ,

Remember when google didn’t do evil? Remember when they were hip, cool and not the living nightmare of a corporation we see of them today?

EnderMB ,

That was two CEO’s in. Google under Sundar is very different to Google under Page.

elauso ,

So this really doesn’t alleviate any concerns for Steam. They too might be just 2 CEO changes away from sending their users to hell.

Bogasse , in What do you think of this prediction?
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Steam, my Steam library and Proton could disappear. But at least it will have supported a big traction in the ecosystem : Wine, DXVK, Lutris, Heroic Launcher, Bazzite, etc… are all open source projects (so they can’t really disappear) that have never moved as fast as they are today.

mlg , in What do you think of this prediction?
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Aside from valve probably having a hit by bus plan, I’m pretty sure ownership of valve is actually split pretty evenly so it will likely fall to another senior dev who understands what to do.

FreddyDunningKruger ,

I’ve heard they’ve hidden three immeasurably invaluable CS:Go Knife skins throughout the platform, and the first person to find all three will unlock Half-Life 3 and annoint the winner as Gaben 2, God Emperor of Valve and owner of Steam. Also, they get a chocolate factory.

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In ,

Oompa loompa, doompadee doo, We’ve got a perfect riddle for you, Oompa loompa, doompadee dee, If you are wise, you’ll listen to me.

Three precious knives, in Counter-Strike they hide, Find them all to claim your prize worldwide, The first to collect, in triumph shall stand, To unlock Half-Life 3, the game so grand.

Oompa loompa, doompadee doo, Follow the clues and you’ll be through, Oompa loompa, doompadee dee, Just one more knife, and then you’ll see.

A crown awaits, a throne so high, Steam’s vast empire, you’ll rule the sky, With Half-Life 3, your reign begins, All hail the gamer who truly wins.

Oompa loompa, doompadee doo, The ultimate prize belongs to you, Oompa loompa, doompadee dee, Gaben 2, you shall always be.

aalvare2 ,

I hope it pleases you to know I sang this entire song to myself

Hazzard , in What do you think of this prediction?

For sure, valid to fear the enshittification of steam. But they aren’t killing proton. Maybe ignoring proton at worst. But Steam has profit motivations for not being reliant on Windows, which has actively been trying to supplant them with the Windows Store for years.

As another separate, profit-motivated company, with a gaming division and a lot to gain from eating Steam’s lunch, Microsoft is not Steam’s friend. Proton is a critical bargaining tool for them, and not having to include windows licenses for devices like the Steam Deck helps their costs too.

psivchaz ,

My fear is them going public or selling. If that happens, it’ll probably be Microsoft willing to spend any amount, and the government hasn’t really been in a “preventing monopolies” mood for a while now.

Zoot ,
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You can take away peoples home, food, and rights… Just don’t you dare touch their entertainment for the plebs might get antsy…

Klear ,

And you can’t take the sky from me.

Ookami38 ,

Bread and circuses. They’re already giving us scraps.

Emmy ,

Wish they were serious about Linux support.

Honytawk , in What do you think of this prediction?

Many won’t like it, but this is the reason we need competition like Epic games and GOG.

The steam fanboys certainly aren’t going to make this problem any better.

FartsWithAnAccent ,
@FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io avatar

I like Steam and I think GOG is great too

Jarix ,

Humble bundle also has a store now fwiw

FartsWithAnAccent ,
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Cool, I used to buy from them all the time!

Heavybell ,
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We need competition like GOG. EGS is shit, we need competition better than EGS.

Honytawk ,

Bad competition is still better than no competition, because of the aforementioned issue.

kungen ,

Yeah, but fair competition? EGS paying publishers to have exclusives doesn’t seem like fair competition to me.

sep ,

For sure! There is no real market with exclusives! EGS is the bad apple that may spoil the bunch. Now do steam services also create a pseudo exclusive, yes kinda. But developers do not have to use those, they are just making their life easier. And developers can still do their games on other platforms as well.

Spedwell ,

EGS can’t compete on features for sure (it really is quite a shit platform), but they would be very competitive if their 12% fee (vs. Steams 30% fee) could be passed to buyers as lower prices. As it stands, Valve’s policies essentially strongarms the market to prohibit this (publishers selling on Steam may not have a lower price on a different platform, or the game can be de-listed from Steam). The Wolfire v. Valve case is highly relevent here.

My plea is for you not to get mad at Epic for being shit. We should be accepting of crappy platforms if their fees reflect that (Epic charges 40% what Steam does). Focus your frustration at Valve for preventing the market from fairly allowing you select the quality of the platform you’d like to pay for.

drunkpostdisaster ,

Yeah, how dare we compare steam to poor little epic?

Heavybell ,
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I’d be a lot more willing to root for epic if they had spent any time at all making EGS preferable. I would prefer steam over their mess even if EGS was 20% cheaper all the time. Tho I go for GOG over either of them whenever possible.

bouh ,

Competition like gog, I’m all for it. But what is epic providing? I fail to see it.

trevor ,

Their own host of anti-competitive practices.

Evil_Shrubbery , in What do you think of this prediction?

GOG.
We need to support GOG and it’s model as much as possible.

<3

Tywele ,

If only they would support Linux more.

finestnothing ,

Lutris > gog as source > set proton as a runner (or wine, or whatever else if specific games require it, like FFXIV)

blindbunny ,

GOG lazy asses never developed Galaxy because Linux nerds were going to do this anyways

teawrecks ,

I tried this for a while and it was incredibly janky. Heroic launcher is a night and day difference.

Evil_Shrubbery ,

They barely “support” Windows, they aren’t rally a software dev company, they are just sell you the actual game (unlike Valve etc).

And that is precious, the world needs companies that help restore some equality on the market.

And also what Nothing said.

mark3748 ,

they aren’t rally a software dev company

CD Projekt is very much a software dev. I’m not sure why you would think they are not.

rwhitisissle ,

Well, they’re a game developer. And they own GOG. GOG as a subsidiary is a digital distributor of prepackaged digital content. Developing a system that allows people to find a digital item, pay for it, and then download it, is hilariously, vastly different than developing a compatibility layer for games developed for one operating system to run on another. Like…the former is straight up just basic web development. The latter is hardcore systems programming. They are worlds apart.

Evil_Shrubbery ,

1Yes, exactly. Two different things.
And both great at what they do.

One can’t just equate devs.
Its like grandma wanting me to fix her computer because I ‘also have a computer at work’.

sirico ,
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The ship has sailed about 4 times now, gog galaxy on Linux has constantly been at the top of requests but we made a stinky about the Witcher 2 so gog and epic will forever hold the community as not worth it. Now the community has done the leg work they have no reason to mess about with translating all those .net calls

squeakycat ,

I used to support them but when they opened the floodgates to trash games I didn’t get much reason to stick around. I miss and crave curation over volume. If both stores have heaps of garbage and steam has far better Linux support with valve actively contributing to and improving the Linux ecosystem… I’m going steam most of the time now.

Sad as in theory I would support gog more but it seems like they’ve discarded what made them special.

Evil_Shrubbery ,

Could you expand on that pls?

Im wondering how does the excess amount of games offered by a store affect your experience. How would you even notice that?

And - that they were a more closed store was what made them special?

Then I think of GOG I think about licencing, how I actually own a game purchased, how I have a key for it, how I’ll still own that game even of GOG stops existing. Thats not true for any of the other stores (outside of physical copies if some sell them, idk).

squeakycat ,

I notice it because the signal drowns out the noise. It’s so hard to browse or find interesting new games made by passionate devs because so much low-effort barely-games and hentai visual novels flood it all out.

I’m all for adult sex games but jfc it’s just sad how awful and unending their presence is.

Evil_Shrubbery ,

Oh … I never randomly browsed game stores for new games to try.

Templa , in What do you think of this prediction?

The fact that people non ironically visit 4chan in 2024 kind of worries me

koavf ,

I have heard for years and years that “the other parts of 4chan” than /b are good, but I’ve never seen it myself.

RabbitMix ,

I used to go on 4chan, on a variety of boards, every day for 10 years (06-16) some boards are better than others, and /b/ is definitely the worst by a lot, but they’re all terrible.

dudinax , in What do you think of this prediction?

Who’d have thought not actually owning the games you purchase was a bad idea?

rdri ,

Even if you buy them on gog you don’t own them. Download and keep - sure, but you could do that with many games on steam too (also you could download torrent versions which wouldn’t be different from buying on gog). The point is about actually keeping these copies alive, properly updated and working, for which these services exist.

So, I think owning a disc is also risky, that means your copy can degrade. Owning games in this context have lost its meaning for me.

dudinax ,

When you own the game you have the choice whether to back up the game and whether to keep a computer that can run it.

rdri ,

Both of those mean you have to own a physical thing. Store services are basically backups for cases when you stop owning a physical thing for a while.

un_aristocrate , in What do you think of this prediction?

Whenever you are afraid of the negative impact on your life of a corporation’s possible failure, it means that you have become reliant on someone you can’t trust. You must act accordingly.

interdimensionalmeme ,

Reject modernity, move to the woods, return to monke.

Swallowtail ,

Probably not a popular view here but I’ve found my hobbies more fulfilling since I started doing stuff other than gaming. Native plant/food gardening, reading books, working out… all of this stuff can be affected by capitalism too of course but I’m less beholden to it. I still game a bit now and then but much less than I used to.

interdimensionalmeme , (edited )

Even when steam is gone, we’ll still have movies, books and music.

Because of the analogue hole we can capture these and store these as long as unlicensed hard drive possession is allowed.

Of course there are non-culture based activities but I think we shouldn’t tolerate regression from big tech and take steps to prevent them just out of shear principle.

These facilitator middlemen think they can dictate how to live our lives and I think we should make them regret this position severely.

Moorshou ,

Does this mean I should buy games from GOG? Or support physical media/indies?

blind3rdeye ,

Yes. GOG. itch.io. Direct from some other website. That’s right.

Steam is very good; but the hidden cost is that you depend on them maintaining their service. If they turn evil, you’re screwed. You either have to bend to their will, or you lose your library of games.

On the other hand, GOG and itch.io are arguably not as good as Steam right now, but they don’t have any kind of lock-in. So if they start to backslide, you can still walk away with your full library of games. I do think it’s a good idea to ‘not put all your eggs in one basket.’

NigelFrobisher , in What do you think of this prediction?

Obviously his death will trigger a worldwide AR Easter egg hunt, where the Steam user worthy enough to find the three keys first will become the new Gaben and Master Of Steam.

faceula ,

Must drive backwards…

InternetCitizen2 ,

Or talk to a girl!

cRazi_man ,

I cringe just remembering that movie.

interdimensionalmeme ,

I haven’t seen it, is it even worse than the book ?

Shelbyeileen ,
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I looked at the movie as a fun romp that’s a bit inspired by the book and that makes it bearable. The movie took the nerdiness down in a way that was very unrealistic, but understandable to the general public. Anyone actually in the nerd community knows that people find shortcuts and glitches, and do speedrun records competitively; but they removed the entire part about the first key being in the school area (where it would be attainable by all for free) and instead make it “Oh, I was supposed to drive backwards in this race that I need a very expensive car/weapons for”

It’s a very pretty movie with a lot of fun Easter Eggs, but you’ve gotta separate and realize it wasn’t made for them to enjoy it.

MeDuViNoX ,
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What movie/book?

neblem ,

Ready Player One

MeDuViNoX ,
@MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works avatar

Thanks

cRazi_man ,

I haven’t read the book. But the movie is indeed really terrible.

drunkpostdisaster ,

Let’s not get crazy

dumbass ,
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Fuck it, I’m out.

corbin , in What do you think of this prediction?

I wrote about this a few months ago: www.spacebar.news/steam-time-bomb/

trag468 , in What do you think of this prediction?

I think Gabe has been getting healthy lately. Last picture I saw of him he was looking like he lost a lot of weight. Maybe repost this in 10 years and then we can panic.

MeDuViNoX ,
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rxbudian , in What do you think of this prediction?

Someone’s been gaming too much.

SpaceCowboy , in What do you think of this prediction?
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It’s inevitable.

But if steam becomes enshittified I’ll move onto something else and use torrent sites to download the older games I care about that I’ve bought on steam. It wouldn’t really be pirating them, since I’ve bought them already.

For now steam is fine, and I appreciate the work they’ve done on supporting Linux, so I’ll keep on using it to buy games.

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