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MyNamesNotRobert , in Someone needs to be reminded that anticompetitive practices are illegal

This has been said time and time again but fuck Nvidia. Preventing compatibility layers ensures games and programs that need this stuff are extra unreliable, bloated and enshittified.

joyjoy , in Someone needs to be reminded that anticompetitive practices are illegal

Nvidia: bans platform translation layers for CUDA

Meanwhile AMD: is forbidden from releasing an open source HDMI 2.1 driver supporting 4K@120hz because of HDMI Forums requirements.

NegativeInf ,

Oops. Someone hacked the server and now the code is leaked online. How terrible.

Gabu ,

Mindless fanboys: AmD aNd nVidIa aRe LitEralLy tHe sAme!

Zorsith ,
@Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

It was hilarious seeing Intel bent over the proverbial barrel for a while after AMD put out Ryzen, be nice if they could do the same to nvidia.

OsrsNeedsF2P ,

DisplayPort gang?

harmsy ,

Accidental DisplayPort guy checking in. I didn’t even know it was a thing until I bought my graphics card. It seems like I dummied my way into some good tech.

MaggiWuerze ,

Does DP support CEC or ARC nowadays?

knolord ,

sadly not, but GPUs (at least those I used) do not support that over HDMI as well, which is kinda frustrating :/

MaggiWuerze ,

I was thinking about home cinema, but good point

nickwitha_k ,

Sadly also not an open standard, in reality but they are friendlier to FOSS.

Bronco1676 ,

At least it is royality free compared to HDMI which has a large annual fee + per unit fee for manufacturers

nickwitha_k ,

Oh. It’s absolutely superior on the royalties side. Just incredibly frustrating that what should be an open standard that anyone can tinker with is not.

OmnipotentEntity ,
@OmnipotentEntity@beehaw.org avatar

It’s at least partially because the specification was designed to detect and thwart attempts to tee the video and audio data in order to bypass copy protection on DVDs and Blu-Rays, iirc.

nickwitha_k ,

It is indeed and the fact that I don’t care about any of that makes it that much more frustrating. I got bored with piracy nearly two decades ago and just want to implement my own open-source virtual display systems in hardware and gateway I shouldn’t need to either cough up thousands of dollars a year or find a copy of a PDF that someone “accidentally” left at a public location in order to do so with an established protocol standard.

FiniteBanjo , in Uh...oh...

I’m gonna have to start vetting my partners better, I don’t want to catch Webdev.

AceFuzzLord , in Someone needs to be reminded that anticompetitive practices are illegal

Here’s the problem:

Doesn’t matter the country/countries. Due to bureaucracy and lobbying, this will take forever for anyone to get anything done. And by the time it’s done, something better will have appeared and will be using any and all loopholes present in whatever bill they pass to do the exact same shit that is happening now.

KillingTimeItself , in Yup sums up all my project

why is it that every time i become more of a linux user, things only seem to get worse around me? Is this how linux works?

squiblet , in Uh...oh...
@squiblet@kbin.social avatar

My DNA is a sexually transmitted disease

kilgore_trout , in Someone needs to be reminded that anticompetitive practices are illegal

It’s too technical.

hypertown , in Someone needs to be reminded that anticompetitive practices are illegal

If translation layer can be banned with EULA how is wine not dead yet? M$ loves Linux or what?

crispy_kilt ,

MS loves money. If Linux makes them money, great. If not, fuck it.

shankrabbit ,

“…because it makes us money” could be put at the end of any slogan to make it 100% honest.

kernelle ,

USA: Oh yeah ofcourse I understand

EU: Hmmmmmm

crispy_kilt ,

More like:

EU: Oh yeah of course I understand, but also, you need to follow the law.

kernelle ,

Lmao true

hypertown ,

Well for sure they profit on Linux but I doubt they are using Wine.

HerrLewakaas ,

I’m willing to bet that Linux is irrelevant to Microsoft. It doesn’t threaten them, Microsoft has it’s core business elsewhere

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

Microsoft do make money from Linux though. For example, Microsoft SQL Server runs on Linux, and you can use Linux in Azure (both of which are part of their core business).

faith ,
@faith@lemmy.ml avatar

Their core business is hosting linux for other people at this point.

shankrabbit ,

Not that irrelevant. They even have their own distro: Mariner

intensely_human ,

This one goes in the hall of fame for sure

MajorHavoc ,

Microsoft’s operating system accounts for a vanishingly small percentage of server hosting, and their deathgrip on personal computing is starting to slip. (Particularly as Android has already replaced Windows as the most popular operating system.)

Microsoft is well past “not worried”, looking at “too late to do anything about it” in the rear view mirror, and barreling toward “cease to exist if they don’t continue to stick the landing on interoperability with Linux and Android”.

Microsoft’s long term relevance plan counts on cloud tools on Linux and their Office Suite on every platform.

unionagainstdhmo ,
@unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone avatar

Funny you should say that because they just dropped Android Subsystem for Windows

MajorHavoc ,

Yeah. I can’t say I blame them, in that front.

As someone who often runs apps on hardware the app was never meant to run on, it’s not great.

There may be a unified Android / Linux package type coming, when more laptops are touchscreens and more phones are dockable workstations. But I doubt the Windows kernel will have much to do with either.

Aux ,

Microsoft is earning crap loads of money from Android. The more Android phones are being sold, the more money Microsoft gets.

MajorHavoc ,

Yeah. To be clear, I’m not calling them out. Just pointing out that Microsoft is very aware that Windows isn’t the future of the company, anymore.

General_Effort ,

The EULA of the CUDA SDK bans reverse engineering output of the SDK to make translation layers (and such compatibility aids in general).

That makes it more legally dangerous and/or harder for devs. It has no effect on anyone not using the SDK.

hypertown ,

How is that Nvidia can ban reverse engineering and for example Nintendo can’t. I’m sure they would love to just say in EULA that sorry but reverse engineering Switch is prohibited therefore every emulator is illegal

optissima ,

Nintendo firing all its lawyers atm because no one suggested this yet

General_Effort ,

Well, maybe they can’t. This clause would probably not hold up in a lot of countries/courts. OTOH it would in others. It might take years of litigation to figure out.

So, if you want to work on this kind of thing, better consult a lawyer first. It will have a chilling effect and that’s something.

US situation: www.eff.org/issues/…/reverse-engineering-faq

sirico , in Someone needs to be reminded that anticompetitive practices are illegal
@sirico@feddit.uk avatar

I give it about 10 years before the EU is invaded by the US after corporate lobbying

scroll_responsibly ,
@scroll_responsibly@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Or a couple of months if the EPP win the next EU elections.

uis ,

I need context

Zacryon ,

Europeans People Party, large political party within the EU which is largely full of conservative right-wing folks with the german Ursula Gertrud von der Leyen at it’s top. She is also currently president of the European Commission and has been known to be involved in corruption and to favour company interests, as well as the rest of the fuckers in the EPP.

So I guess the context is: If EPP stays in power, that’s good for top-business-people, but bad for everyone else. Thereby detrimental for such competitive-practise-laws.

uis ,

Thanks. It seems EU needs Navalny too. Fucking Putin.

TCB13 ,
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

Europeans People Party, large political party within the EU which is largely full of conservative right-wing folks

First the EPP is center-right, not conservative right-wing.

So I guess the context is: If EPP stays in power, that’s good for top-business-people, but bad for everyone else.

Second there’s too much leftists’ bullshit already in EU member states and all that power vacuum created by key keep such as Angela Merkel leaving governments created all the right conditions for the US, Ukraine and Russia to start a war at the EU border that only benefits the USA and has a large economical impact on the EU.

uis ,

First the EPP is center-right, not conservative right-wing.

Are they soc-dems?

TCB13 ,
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

They do include a LOT of people from doc-dem parties in EU member states. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_People's_Party

Not sure if you know how the EU “parties” work but the members aren’t directly elected like in other places. They simply have a bunch of chairs that get filled with people from member state parties that applied to be part of that EU level organization. We most likely shouldn’t even call them political parties.

uis ,

Political bloc then

Zacryon ,

First the EPP is center-right, not conservative right-wing.

As far as I can see it, they are conservative-right wing. It’s even clear from the first sentence of the Wikipedia article you posted further down:

with Christian-democratic,[4] liberal-conservative,[4] and conservative[5][6] member parties

Second there’s too much leftists’ bullshit already in EU member states

You mean like those competiveness laws discussed in this post?

that only benefits the USA

Sounds like a conspiracy myth to me. Feel free to elaborate.

TCB13 ,
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

As far as I can see it, they are conservative-right wing.

I’m sorry, that’s not what they identify with…

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/517a7b68-4dbc-42a5-ba3f-88681bcdbd03.png

SomeAmateur ,

A guarantee of deploying to europe would be great for military retention! Everyone is tired of fighting forever wars in the desert

unionagainstdhmo ,
@unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone avatar

Yeah take me back to the early 20th century, that was when you could get some good warring in

optissima ,
TCB13 ,
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

I give it about 10 years before the EU is invaded by the US after corporate lobbying

No need. The US most likely pushed Ukraine and Russia into a war that essentially is a way to put so much pressure in the EU economy that things will fail one way or the other.

AngryCommieKender ,

The US promptly forgot that Ukraine existed once they gave Russia their nukes back, and didn’t bother to think about them again until Russia invaded. The major exception being Hunter Biden, and he has never been in politics so he doesn’t count.

Viper_NZ ,

Russia (and Putin) are so weak the USA forced them to invade their neighbour?

Cope.

TCB13 ,
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

Russia (and Putin) are so weak the USA forced them to invade their neighbour?

I’m not saying that is or that isn’t the case. What I know is that in this war, right after Ukraine, the EU is the most affected party. The US is the one that has most to gain from destabilizing the EU economy and weakening the Euro.

Viper_NZ ,

Politically sure, but economically the USA is hurt by this war. You may as well make the case that it’s in China’s interest, or Indias.

But that wouldn’t align with Kremlin disinformation that you’re spreading. Wilfully or not.

astrsk , in Uh...oh...
@astrsk@kbin.social avatar

Dang, 50% is a lot.

MonkderZweite , in Someone needs to be reminded that anticompetitive practices are illegal

So a knife maker can now forbid me to cut chicken with it?

Darken ,
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  • Buttons ,
    @Buttons@programming.dev avatar

    But at least you wouldn’t download a car, right?

    AngryCommieKender ,

    youtu.be/uErKI0zWgjg?si=kOQ5xUtJHcJvVaMj

    Stealing it one piece at a time seems to be celebrated by the same generation of people that are concerned about copying media

    Holzkohlen ,

    I’d singlehandedly bring down the car manufacturers in my country if I could. They have the strongest lobby in Germany for sure.

    Holzkohlen , in Someone needs to be reminded that anticompetitive practices are illegal

    Now imagine Microsoft banning the translation of DirectX to Vulkan. Could they do that? That would kill gaming on Linux in a snap.

    bruhduh ,
    @bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

    Don’t give them ideas

    mr_satan , in Someone needs to be reminded that anticompetitive practices are illegal
    @mr_satan@monyet.cc avatar

    They can prohibit whatever they want, but how enforceable is it? Does Nvidia intend to play whack a mole by checking for translation layers?

    bruhduh ,
    @bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

    Nah, they’ll just pull “Nintendo move”

    unionagainstdhmo ,
    @unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone avatar

    If AMD and/or Intel took leadership of the project the Nintendo move wouldn’t work and they’d have to actually test it in court

    PanArab , in Someone needs to be reminded that anticompetitive practices are illegal

    Bottom should be MooreThreads or some other Chinese GPU maker

    alt1804 , in *Angry programmers noise getting louder and louder*

    What app/website is this? I haven’t found a good crossword app yet

    JohnnyCanuck ,
    @JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca avatar

    Not OP but I think it looks like Shortyz on Android, which I used for a long time, but I recently switched to Forkyz (an unofficial fork of Shortyz) because it gets more active support. You can get it on F-droid or its current repo on Gitlab.

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