Counterpoint: A declarative language made and used to program a browser is still a programming language, regardless of its name, heritage, or differences from imperative languages.
Hypertext markup Language. Yeah this sorta reminds me of why I stopped following r/ProgrammerHumour on the old site - too many cheap potshots at Perl, PHP and HTML, as if they weren’t fantastic tools that powered the creation of the internet we have today. Kids, man, SMH
Well l take your point, but here I took ‘programming language’ in the colloquial sense to mean ‘language used for programming’ whereas you seem to have read it as ‘turing-complete language’; neither is fully justifiable since there’s ambiguity, but given that it’s a crossword I think that’s fine and all part of the game.
WHY IS THERE CODE??? MAKE A FUCKING .EXE FILE AND GIVE IT TO ME. these dumbfucks think that everyone is a developer and understands code. well i am not and i don’t understand it. I only know to download and install applications. SO WHY THE FUCK IS THERE CODE? make an EXE file and give it to me. STUPID FUCKING SMELLY NERDS
Now you may be asking, what happens if the APE loader isn’t installed on my system? In that case, it’ll try to dd the 4kb copy of the APE loader that’s embedded within the host executable, out to the safest folder that’s guaranteed to work, namely ${TMPDIR:-${HOME:-.}}/.ape. If your operating system defines the POSIX-specified $TMPDIR variable, then the ape loader will become $TMPDIR/.ape. Otherwise if $HOME is defined, it’s dropped in in $HOME/.ape. Then, if neither is defined, ./.ape is created in the current directory
Yeah but I feel like there’s a million books been written since that time which point out how vapid this quote is. To write one must know what you want to say and how to convey it, do you really think it’s better to just dive into a task unprepared and muddle through rather than learn first the structure and ideals behind such work?
I would say both. You need to learn by trying things out, making your own mistakes and finding a style. Then you get input from the outside world on why some peculiar structure make sense or just giving helpful tips. Then you try out more, apply those tips and see what works for you. But you can read as much helpful input as you want, it won’t be any good without you trying to apply it and practice.
At the end of the day, both are required. You need to study to be effective at what you’re doing, but at the end of the day the only way words get on paper is writing. You’ll also get more out of learning these structures and ideals trying to apply them after you have a bit of time just floundering, getting a feel for the actual task.
Is that actually a burn? It depends on the context.
It’s the same thing whenever I hear somebody say “I wish I could draw like that.” You probably can, but it would take hundreds of hours of practice. Of course, people wish that there was some shortcut, so that they could get the skill without all the work.
Yeah, came here to compare. Both are wrong. If you wish to be a writer, write. If you wish to be a good writer, learn something. Same with programming, except programming requires something to function so it’s even worse in that regard.
I find myself in a state of uncertainty regarding the particular group of ladies to which you are making reference within the confines of our conversation.
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