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Fedizen ,

I wouldn’t be surprised if we find out later this was a murder attempt

joel_feila ,
@joel_feila@lemmy.world avatar

They fucking tested this on myth busters. Don’t store bullets near fire

Blackmist ,

Pretty sure I learnt this one from a Chip n Dale cartoon when I was about six.

Kolanaki , (edited )
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

So I initially went to the page to see if that was confirmed or busted because I couldn’t remember (I do recall them having difficulty just keeping bullets in the oven) and I ended up finding this instead:

https://yiffit.net/pictrs/image/365f24d1-06de-43b3-95f8-d3fde5b4b59e.png

I don’t remember that episode at all!

joel_feila ,
@joel_feila@lemmy.world avatar

Well son of a gun

CookieOfFortune ,

So you’re saying they had a… cook off?

Delphia ,

Nice

Delphia ,

On this episode of “Great American Bake-Off”

BleatingZombie ,

I didn’t know they had a version with kids competing

Gradually_Adjusting ,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

The husky-dog stare of Paul Hollywood as he eats a gun: “That’s a shame, it’s under baked.”

KillingTimeItself ,

wait… when you say “fired” do we mean, chambered, and fired down the barrel, cleared, and then cycled fully, repeating, or do we mean the rounds just popped off in the stack, not in the chamber.

sazey ,

The ‘article’ or accompanying video didn’t specify unfortunately. I guess it is possible the hottest round would be the one chambered and cooks off, engaging the semi auto chambering mechanism loading the next round and repeat.

Kimjongtooill ,

If the gun was plastic, the barrel would definitely be the hottest part of the gun. Would still be true if the gun was a lighter metal, I think. Hmmm

KillingTimeItself ,

yeah, i could see one round firing, but more than one and i think it’s probably just cooking off inside the mag lol.

M0oP0o ,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

Possible with a semi auto, since the chamber and barrel would transmit heat better to a chambered round then the magazine and all the safety parts don’t really assume cook off. Yeah a round fires, slide racks back and loads next round, next round cooks off, over and over until all rounds are the same temp.

Spooky stuff.

KillingTimeItself ,

it’s possible, but i’d also assume you would probably not have a round chambered at all, so. Although, depending on the gun, it’s not held back, so you’re probably not going to properly rack and engage another round into the chamber. From what i understand, most small handguns have this problem if you limpwrist them. It’s less common sometimes, but i imagine if it’s not being held at all, this is going to be a pretty common occurrence.

M0oP0o ,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

This is the same person that put a loaded firearm in the oven we both know there was a round in the chamber.

And no, in my experience very few hand guns have the “limpwrist” issue.

KillingTimeItself ,

This is the same person that put a loaded firearm in the oven we both know there was a round in the chamber.

yeah, that’s probably fair.

And no, in my experience very few hand guns have the “limpwrist” issue.

hmm, either case, this guns is im assuming just sitting in there, so if it does fire a round, the force to rack the slide would have to be less than the required force to move the gun around. It’s possible it could do both, due to physics fuckery, but i’ve not exactly tested that one…

M0oP0o ,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

I really want to test this, but the idea of inventing a more random version of Russian roulette where the gun is in a box and will shoot at random in a random direction you can not see…

Damn it, I need to test this.

Crozekiel ,

Can I recommend digging a hole to test in. In addition to the typical hide behind a very solid wall not right next to it with some way to remotely pull the trigger. And one live round with the followup round being a dummy would also be a good bet.

But there are so many variables to test here… If it works on a smooth surface then you gotta see if it works on a surface like an oven rack. Would have to check different models as well. We just really need some semiprofessional to test this thoroughly.

M0oP0o ,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

I would need to ether dig a whole and also have a bullet stopping roof on it or build a four berm range. I was thinking the better way to test it would be to hand load some rounds with the same powder load and bullet weight (needed to cycle the action) but with a bullet equivalent that is not capable of much penetration (like a fine lead powder).

I think I would start with 2 rounds and the firearm fixed in place (to test if the action will cycle at all). Then go to oven with gun on baking sheet and 2 rounds. Then go oven rack and 2 rounds. And then maybe baking sheet and full mag if it all worked as theorized. I don’t think you need a way to pull the trigger since the firearm while heating is inherently in an unsafe condition, you would have to instead leave the thing to cool for a long time (also to rule out hang fires) and unload the rounds for inspection (not to be reused).

Crozekiel ,

Oh I was definitely just considering testing the firearm being able to cycle the action when sitting loose on a flat surface, lol. I wasn’t anticipating getting a fully functioning oven in the hole, that does complicate the matter considerably.

M0oP0o ,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

Oh if I tested this it would be full on danger oven. The most expensive part would be the ruined pistols (extra difficult in my country where we can no longer legally buy new ones)

KillingTimeItself ,

the gun in the box is both fired and not fired, until we look inside the box BANG OW!

M0oP0o ,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

Well that is on you for looking inside the box. Do you know nothing about quantum gun ovens?

KillingTimeItself ,

tru tru, my bad, i should’ve left the box alone.

M0oP0o ,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

Yeah, just leave that particular waveform uncollapsed please

KillingTimeItself ,

what happens if we reform it tho

Fedizen ,

looking at the images they showed the handle looked messed up, the call also stated an explosion not multiple, suggesting all the ammo went off at once.

M0oP0o ,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

I would assume even if a few rounds went off in the barrel once a set temp was reached they would all cook off. The mechanics of this is really interesting.

warbond ,

Commenters are getting this backwards. If there was a round in the chamber it would be the last to go off, not the first. Whereas the rest of the rounds are directly exposed to the heat, the chambered round has a thick metal barrel around it protecting it from that heat.

KillingTimeItself ,

i’d think it probably depends. the barrel itself is quite large and transmits heat pretty well, given that if it didn’t shit would melt.

compared to rounds in the magazine which are more closely exposed, but through plastic, or air, which doesn’t transmit heat quite as effectively.

i guess we should probably put a gun in an oven and see what happens hm?

warbond ,

While the oven is preheating, allow me to postulate that the thermal mass of the barrel, especially in vicinity of the breech, would require far more exposure to heat to reach the temperature required for the powder to spontaneously ignite.

This is why hot gun cook-offs occur, because the barrel has absorbed enough heat that it’s able to ignite the powder through the casing via conduction. As such, as you would expect, after containing a single explosion (i.e. firing a round), the chamber would be warm to the touch while the exterior of the barrel would remain cool. It’s not until the metal is exposed to enough heat internally that the barrel becomes too hot to touch externally.

So that’s my logic here. If it was suddenly 500 degrees outside, I think the safest place to hide a bullet in a gun to keep it from exploding is the chamber.

KillingTimeItself ,

yeah, that’s a possibility, but maybe if it’s a really slow preheat, or over a long enough time period, it might be possible.

Although you might expect the magazine to also cook off, but if you have a round chambered in the barrel, it might be an inevitability at that point so.

M0oP0o ,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

Or if the gun barrel is in direct contact with the element (as in “hid” on the bottom of the stove).

KillingTimeItself ,

that would be a fun setup, self disabling LMAO

ragica ,
@ragica@lemmy.ml avatar

Amazed to see this. New old house. Used oven for first time. Some sort of stench and black gunk dripping from top heat shield. Gas stove. Investigate. Pull out pieces of a gun. Glock or something. Previous owner stops by for mail (unusual situation). I had over the melted pieces, “you forget something in the oven?” “Oh shit. No problem, I can fix it.” "uh… Okaaaaay… "

m4xie ,

He can 3D print or just but a new frame. The metal parts will be fine.

JoeBigelow ,
@JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca avatar

But maybe that individual should not.

m4xie ,

True

ripcord ,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

What is this scenario referring to? Is there another article with actual details, or…?

ChickenLadyLovesLife ,

Maybe he meant he could fix the oven. Which he could … by moving.

lanolinoil ,
@lanolinoil@lemmy.world avatar

You need a proper goven if you’re going to do that

Bookmeat ,

Do not store a LOADED gun.

doingthestuff ,

Unloaded guns are useless if you need one.

Bookmeat ,

That’s why we load them when we use them.

OhStopYellingAtMe ,
@OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world avatar

Ideally, avid gun enthusiasts and the dumbest fucking people on the planet would be two separate circles of people, and yet…

SirEDCaLot ,

They generally are.
Problem is there is a tiny little overlap in the middle of that Venn diagram, and that tiny overlap seems to be responsible for a great deal of problems.

OhStopYellingAtMe ,
@OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world avatar

We will have to disagree upon how tiny that overlap is. I don’t think it’s as tiny as you’d like to believe.

SirEDCaLot ,

I don’t think there’s nearly as many as you think. It’s a perception bias, the few that there are stick out a lot because they are hilariously stupid so you read about them a lot and it seems common.

Keep in mind that in the US, about half the households are armed. And the half that own guns own enough guns to arm the other half. There’s more guns than people in this country. If they’re truly was a significant overlap between very stupid people and gun ownership, the nation would be like a roadrunner cartoon with Yosemite Sam type a shootouts and people firing into the air on every street corner. That is seriously not the case.

SwingingTheLamp ,

Well, the chief of police in my city did this (accidental discharge of gun in the oven) once, so make of that what you will. He did have the integrity to discipline himself, per department policy.

cdf12345 ,

oops

VitabytesDev ,

(I don’t have time to make an image right now, but anyway)

Hey America, how you doing?

Don’t keep your gun in the oven.

Oh.

MNByChoice , (edited )

Constantly shocked by people that don’t open the oven door at look every time prior to preheating the oven.

How else will you find:

  • no pilot light
  • a blanket
  • cast iron cookware cooling
  • loaded guns
  • forgotten food

Look in the oven people! It takes 1 second.

Edit: I am amazed how many people don’t look in the oven before turning it on.

AA5B ,

Why would you expect anything to be in the oven? Maybe the cast iron is the exception but only because it can take the heat

MNByChoice ,

Fun fact: Some ovens have a storage drawer at the bottom (drawer under main door.) Some ovens have a broiler at the bottom (drawer under main door. Maybe only gas ovens, maybe not.)

AA5B ,

And some call that storage a “warming drawer”.

Hopefully you know what you have, plus why would you put anything in storage at someone’s house, if not the place it came from?

Blumpkinhead ,

I keep my fireworks in the warming drawer.

dual_sport_dork ,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

That’s because on some ranges the drawer is a dedicated warming drawer, with its own heating element and independent temperature control from the oven. But some people see that once and then assume every range in the world is like that, but they aren’t. The feature appears to have been more common historically than it is now, as well.

AA5B ,

Yep, ve never had that on any stove, but do have one on my grill

dual_sport_dork ,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

Gas ovens pretty much exclusively these days, and that’s a cost cutting thing for anyone wondering. On cheap models, the manufacturer uses the same burner for both broiling and baking so they don’t have to pony up to include two separate burners, valves, and igniters. In broil “mode,” you just put the food item immediately below the burner in the drawer so it’s much closer to the source of the heat which is now also conveniently above it rather than below it.

Katana314 ,

I’m reminded of a joke from Burn Notice where Michael has kept a folder of critically important blackmail files in his mother’s oven for several seasons. He just casually points out she never actually cooks anything herself.

NotMyOldRedditName , (edited )

That show was awesome.

XTL ,

The longest Hyundai commercial ever.

(Yes, it was good)

DarkSirrush ,

I do not understand ever storing anything in the oven, its a cooking tool not a storage tool.

I will agree if you have a gas stove that checking the pilot light is a good idea, but those are becoming less common as we are discovering just how bad they are for your health - that, and induction is amazing for anything that doesn’t require an open flame (and that’s what bbqs are for!).

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

we are discovering just how bad they are for your health

It turns out that burning a highly flammable carcinogen in your living environment isn’t the best idea.

doingthestuff ,

Best thing to cook on in the world though. It’s worth opening a window or whatever.

aesthelete , (edited )

Disagree…induction is far better to cook on. It has much better temperature control, heats up faster, and when you’re done it’s easier to clean.

And it doesn’t do as much to heat up the kitchen because the heat stays concentrated in the pan.

I wish they’d installed an electric stove in my current place…now I have to get an electrician to come upgrade the circuit. 🙄

doingthestuff , (edited )

I don’t know any chefs who agree with you but I know four who disagree. And I disagree. But admittedly that’s a small sample size. I paid to have the gas line extended to reach my kitchen.

aesthelete , (edited )

I’m not trying to flambe in my kitchen. I don’t need what gas provides.

I have a gas stove right now. It sucks. It likely helped give my wife asthma, and the temperature control is for shit. I bought an induction plate to play around with and it lets you set the temperature in the pan in terms of degrees in 10 degree increments. It detects when the pan has been removed from the cook top for a while and automatically shuts off. It’s cool to the touch a minute or so after it shuts off.

Induction is like cooking in the future, gas is like cooking in the Fred Flintstone past (using dinosaur farts).

I have a gas grill, and it’s good for its use as well (yabba dabba do), but if I want control over the heating element it’s induction all the way.

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

Which induction plate did you get? I’ve been meaning to try one out as well, after watching Technology Connections’ video about them.

aesthelete ,

I bought this: Duxtop Portable Induction Cooktop Burner, Induction Hot Plate with LCD Sensor Touch 1800 Watts, Silver 9600LS/BT-200DZ a.co/d/6il1y8f

(My apologies for the Amazon link)

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

Thanks for the info!

aesthelete ,

You’re welcome

aniki , (edited )

I am dying to try cooking on an induction with my favorite iron pans to see how much I like it vs. the gas I have now. I know if/when this thing dies, it will absolutely be replaced with an electric induction with a convection oven. [That almost rhymes…]

someguy3 , (edited )

Disagree. Electric the heat goes into the pan. Gas you get heat fucking everywhere, it’s so uncomfortable. And loud if you’re doing it right and have the fan on full blast. I don’t understand how people think it’s hard to cook on electric.

aniki ,

Well electric coils are slow as fuck to heat up and cool down… That time makes them a huge PIA to cook with. Gas and induction are instantaneous.

someguy3 ,

Oh no 5 seconds.

DrownedRats ,
@DrownedRats@lemmy.world avatar

I know people who store valuable documents, items of devices in their ovens. Usually the reasoning is “if a burglar breaks in they wouldn’t think to check the oven for valuables”. Honestly, pretty stupid reasoning because I’d imagine any burglar worth their salt has heard that old chestnut and will probably place the oven fairly high on their checklist.

ChickenLadyLovesLife ,

My solution to burglars is being poor.

echodot ,

It was probably the most unrealistic scene in all of Limitless.

umbrella , (edited )
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

my oven cooking tools are stored in there im gonna need it anyway

someguy3 ,

If you’re in a small place, you store where you can. I get the impression most people never use their oven.

ChickenLadyLovesLife ,

I can’t even remember the last time I saw a gas range or oven that didn’t have pizoelectric starters. My cousin has a stove from the 1930s, that was probably it.

echodot ,

The last time I saw one was in France in about the 1990s. That’s because friends in the 1990s is similar to everywhere else in the 1840s

ChickenLadyLovesLife ,

I wonder when the black-and-white striped shirt first came into existence in France. My guess would be the 1840s because of the spread of power loom technology.

funkless_eck ,

1858 when the French Navy instituted an official uniform for low level sailors. Previously they had worn their own clothes.

conciselyverbose ,

Because normal people don’t put random shit in their oven to check for?

DJDarren ,

Right. My oven has a few roasting dishes in it that live on the bottom, and that’s it. Who the fuck puts non-cookware in an oven when it’s not in use?

dual_sport_dork ,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

My grandfather never really used his oven for anything, only the stovetop, so he stored boxes of cereal in his oven. You know, cardboard ones.

But when he hosted for the holidays, other people would show up and use the oven… We figured that out PDQ, but not before at least one box of cereal went up in flames.

Ilovethebomb ,

Thinking that’s a good idea, and remembering to do it, are two different things.

bradorsomething ,

Also there could be a cat in the oven, or in America, a cat with a gun.

ettyblatant ,
@ettyblatant@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, but, what about a Good Cat With a Gun? Endless lives could be saved!

bradorsomething ,

At least nine!

echodot ,

Because I know that I didn’t put any random things in there. I’m not insane.

MNByChoice ,

The need to adjust oven racks should make checking the oven a thing.

SirSamuel ,

On one hand, it’s stupid as hell to store a firearm anywhere but in a safe/cabinet designed for them. An oven is another level of stupid

On the other, I used to store our cast iron Dutch oven in the oven and I can’t tell you how many times I started preheating the oven and then remembered to take it out. Usually after its oil seasoning started to heat up

ilost7489 ,

I mean to be fair who likes to eat cold lead

callouscomic ,

Uhhhh, also don’t store loaded guns? Like, at all. Anywhere.

MajorHavoc ,

This is the part that’s boggling my mind.

  1. Stored guns in an oven.
  2. Stored guns loaded.

But not content to stop there:

  1. Stored loaded guns, inside an oven.
FlashMobOfOne , (edited )
@FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world avatar

At least here in Missouri, no licensing or training is required to own one of these deadly weapons.

And it shows.

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