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chronicledmonocle ,

That’s impressive.

NegativeInf ,

Most impressive.

MagicShel ,

JD-Wan has taught you well.

iltoroargento ,
@iltoroargento@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I don’t like this comparison lol

MagicShel ,

Yeah, but the cadence is perfect. shrug

iltoroargento ,
@iltoroargento@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Haha the sacrifices we make

suction ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/0d02745b-3340-4c77-8c35-193d5cbe4937.jpeg

TransplantedSconie ,

Jr. was high when he talked dad into this shlub.

PrincessLeiasCat ,

I’m sure Peter Thiel had some input, too.

Archer ,

Always amazed people like him are right wing. Money won’t save you when the government can just take it from you and send people to kill you because they don’t like who you are

barsquid ,

He thinks he’ll flee to NZ or wherever before the Repubs are able to put him against the wall.

PrincessLeiasCat ,

Sure it can…the following book is about that and nonfiction. They want bunkers in New Zealand and shit. Crazy story but basically they do think their money can save them, so they have no incentive to act in any way other than selfish. And maybe they can “buy” the government, like Thiel with Vance and all the millions he gave him to run for Senate.

If the person with the most money wins the apocalypse, then their one objective in life is to become richer and richer and richer. It’s a fascinating yet horrifying rabbit hole to go down but it does help to explain their fucked up actions.

https://rushkoff.com/books/survival-of-the-richest-escape-fantasies-of-the-tech-billionaires/

Five mysterious billionaires summoned theorist Douglas Rushkoff to a desert resort for a private talk. The topic? How to survive the “Event”: the societal catastrophe they know is coming. Rushkoff came to understand that these men were under the influence of The Mindset, a Silicon Valley–style certainty that they and their cohort can break the laws of physics, economics, and morality to escape a disaster of their own making—as long as they have enough money and the right technology.

In Survival of the Richest, Rushkoff traces the origins of The Mindset in science and technology through its current expression in missions to Mars, island bunkers, AI futurism, and the metaverse.

Here is a podcast where he talks about it, sorry for Apple podcast link; the episode website itself doesn’t seem to exist anymore:

podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/…/id521594713?i=100…

He’s been on lots of them, so search his name on your favorite app for more, but I recommend the above Episode 207 of You are Not So Smart.

N0body ,

I feel dirty saying good things about Sarah Palin, but she was brought on to fire up the base and did just that. Vance has managed to alienate the base. I don’t think the incels even like him at this point.

Quill7513 ,

Yeah people forget how long people looked favorably at Palin. The response to Vance meanwhile was an immediate and visceral “no thank you”

Vittelius , (edited )

Of course the incels don’t like him. He argues that childless people should pay higher taxes. How did anyone think that would go over with the “never even had sex” constituency?

Yeller_king ,

I think the incel crowd generally want to strip women of their rights because they see women’s liberty as a main reason they can’t get laid.

So, I’d imagine the childless cat women thing could hit with them because they’d be like “yeah, women should stop being so up-tight and have my babies!”

Or something like that.

Bennettiquette ,

yeah, single women with no kids are childless cat ladies, but single men with no kids are just victims of the uncompromising selfishness of childless cat ladies. sounds about right.

barsquid ,

Incels would agree to pay more money if it harms women. All incels hate each other, men who aren’t incels, themselves, and women. That’s in ascending order. They are full of hate.

Vittelius ,

Yes they would. And yes they do. And yes they are

BUT…

Incels also hate the cruel world that made them and the politicians upholding it. The problem with women isn’t, according to incel ideology, that they refuse to pick a partner. It’s that they pick the wrong partners. That’s where the dreaded “nice guy” comes from.

So according to incels this doesn’t harm women enough but rather creates a tax on “normal men” for being “normal”. (And then they turn around and call themselves degenerates because their ideology isn’t the most consistent)

Also if you are in these communities for long enough, then it becomes part of your identity. That’s how we get stuff like wizardchan. (People who believe that still being an incel at 30 makes you a wizard). And this is an attack on that from the outside.

collapse_already ,

The dumb thing is: they already do. I get a deduction for my kid.

I am sure the calculus had nothing to do with what the incels want - it’s not like they are going to change their vote.

Vittelius ,

Sure, but you get rewarded, they would get punished. The outcome might be the same, but for a ideology built on grievances, the vibes matter

zcd ,

He’s so spineless it’s baffling that they thought this would be a good choice?

Viking_Hippie ,

Trump thought that he’d appeal to hillbillies and poor Midwesterners. Clearly he didn’t read Hilbilly Elegy beyond the title.

If he did, he would have learned that, much like Clarence Thomas with black people, Vance paints all poor people in Ohio and Kentucky as lazy welfare recipients who should just pull themselves up by their bootstraps* and work harder 🙄

*which was originally an expression for doing something literally impossible, as pulling on your own bootstraps would make you fall down.

RedAggroBest ,

It’s not that it makes you fall, it’s just a non-lever. If you sit on your ass plant your feet flat, then try and pull on your ankles to help yourself up, you’ll get the same effect where it’s actively a hindrance to getting up.

cybervseas ,

TFG wanted someone who won’t outshine him.

RestrictedAccount ,

That was a feature not a bug.

Trump thought he was going to win and he wanted someone at VP who would throw the electoral college count into chaos and give him a third term.

someguy3 ,

Palin was a joke. Vance is, frankly, scary.

takeda ,

Moreso if you are a couch.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t agree completely. A lot of us were scared that old man McCain would win and die in office.

someguy3 ,

And he was only 72 at the time. Trump’s 78.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

True, although he also had a history of cancer and other medical issues and cancer was what finally killed him. Being president ages you a lot unless you’re lazy as fuck like Trump. McCain was a lot of things, but lazy was not one of them. I think there was a decent chance he wouldn’t have survived his first term.

some_guy ,

That’s gotta sting.

Artyom ,

Sarah Palin was like a dog that peed on themselves because they’re an idiot. Vance is like a dog that bites their owner because they’re an idiot. Sure, Palin was dumb, but Vance is a real threat to all Americans.

cybervseas ,

Don’t tell Kristi Noem. I bet she still keeps her favorite gravel pit in great condition, just in case.

RestrictedAccount ,

Palin was a joke because John McCain was at the top of the ticket.

If it was she was second to Trump and being groomed by the Heritage Foundation and their Project 2025, she would be scary too.

lemmus ,
@lemmus@lemmy.world avatar

He can see useless postmenopausal women from his house.

nkat2112 ,
@nkat2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

Brilliant response!

Arbiter ,

Palin was at-least somewhat entertaining in her madness.

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

She also came across as ditzy, not creepily malicious.

jeffw OP ,
@jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

Vance 100% knows what he’s doing. He accepted that he had to sell his soul to become a successful politician.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t know about that… but then I made sure to read about her past as mayor of Wasilla and before that. She is incredibly malicious and petty and vindictive.

EarthShipTechIntern ,

Palin at least gave grist for porn (nalin’ Palin). Furniture porn was hilarious before Vance, is still funnier without humans.

SauceBossSmokin ,

“I can see Russia from my couch!” - JD Vance

Cheems ,
@Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

He just needs parody porn about him and they are one in the same.

tourist ,
@tourist@lemmy.world avatar

I mean, yeah, I would be fine with leaving Palin alone in a room with my furniture.

haunte ,

He’s in the running to unseat Dan Quayle as the most mocked and out of depth VP pick of all time. The race is his to win.

cybervseas ,

Never forget that Pence was maybe even considering going along with Trump on J6, but Dan Quayle the potatoe man talked him out of it.

Quayle was adamant, according to the authors. “Mike, you have no flexibility on this. None. Zero. Forget it. Put it away,” he said.

But Pence pressed him, the authors write, asking if there were any grounds to pause the certification because of ongoing legal challenges. Quayle was unmoved, and Pence ultimately agreed, according to the book.

nymag.com/…/dan-quayle-convinced-mike-pence-to-re…

mPony ,

Quayle was unmoved, and Pence ultimately agreed

In the name of Murphy Brown I never thought I’d say this: Thank God for fucking Dan Quayle, of all people. once MAGA is in the dustbin of history that doofus should run for office on the platform of actually having saved democracy.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Dan Quayle is an idiot and an asshole, but unlike the current crop of Republicans, he actually wants the system to work. He doesn’t want everything to collapse for his grandkids.

RestrictedAccount ,

Quayle is just a Trustifarian who was in over his head.

paddirn ,

Dan Quayle helped save democracy? What the fuck timeline are we living in?

TheBat ,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

And there’s not going to be any porn parody about couchfucker

Etterra ,

Wait did we just find an exception to rule 34? I never thought I’d see the day…

Denalduh ,

You damn well know someone out there has drawn Vance absolutely raw dogging a leather couch and there’s nothing you can do about it.

match ,
@match@pawb.social avatar

I’m picturing the “Orgy is the New Black” meme except it’s Vance surrounded by couches

bradorsomething ,

Vance Unpants’d 2: loose change

HWK_290 ,

And the critically acclaimed sequel, More Cushion for the Pushin’

skeezix ,

Have you tried JD Revanced? It’s much better than the original.

qevlarr ,
@qevlarr@lemmy.world avatar

Made me chuckle, thx

ours ,

So many patches needed to make it palatable.

mPony ,

not going to be any porn parody

I’m surprised it hasn’t been made already.

ours ,

The ultimate twist on the “casting couch” cliché.

barsquid ,

Is the couch physically a couch or is it a person disguised as a couch?

ours ,

So many options!

octopus_ink ,

Decades past relevance as a setup for a joke, but I just keep hearing Yakov Smirnoff in my mind.

In Soviet Russia, couch fucks you!

rsuri ,

So you’re saying he’s less non-unpopular

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