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    WarlordSdocy ,

    This only reports other drivers around the Ford speeding so what would happen is they would still do that and you would get in trouble for going 10 over.

    hperrin ,

    The all new Ford Narc 2024, with optional stitches.

    Snapz ,

    And then selling a subscription to turn it off

    Mihies , (edited )

    Ha, you would think so, but from article it seems it’d snitch only on other vehicles. Now, a subscription for reporting a certain ‘enemy’ vehicle could be way to go. Edit: sneetch

    lauha ,

    “Sir, your Ford sent half an hour long video of this truck going 85 mph on 65 mph road. I would think you understand why you also got a ticket?”

    Snapz ,

    Surely you understand that companies start with the seemingly innocuous execution that establishes the base infrastructure to gain adoption and then, when adoption moves beyond a certain percentage, they flip the switch to the thing they actually wanted. Also, go read about “enshitification”.

    Uber was more available and cheaper than taxis > uber kills taxis > now uber is more expensive and invasive than taxis were.

    800XL ,

    Surprised it took this long. Well, guess that means it’s time to faraday cage the 5g radios in the vehicles or find a way to create a super small jammer that can only broadcast in your car. Some sort of license plate blocker that only shows at a certain angle too.

    Fuck that shit.

    Reverendender ,

    You can get the license plate thingies on eBay

    PriorityMotif ,
    @PriorityMotif@lemmy.world avatar

    License plate blockers are illegal in most states now because of the implementation of privately owned license plate readers that track you and sell the data back to police.

    venusaur ,
    @venusaur@lemmy.world avatar

    Should be Dodge

    FuglyDuck ,
    @FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

    Cue the “I wasn’t driving, that was someone else!” Defense.

    dual_sport_dork ,
    @dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

    https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/7cc932c9-53de-4378-b134-4844a1b30e77.webp

    Give 'em hell, Monkey Man…

    BigDaddySlim ,
    @BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world avatar

    You won’t buy a Ford because it’ll rat you out to the cops

    I won’t buy a Ford because they’re dog shit vehicles

    We are not the same

    systemglitch ,

    With how rarely Toyota’s break down, I hesitate to consider any other car company. Ford is near bottom of the barrel.

    captainlezbian ,

    Hondas are fine

    BigDaddySlim ,
    @BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world avatar

    Funny enough my girlfriend and I just got Toyota’s, so we should have reliable vehicles for the next 30 years

    systemglitch ,

    Lol, fuck yeah!

    DeanFogg ,

    Still make sure to do basic maintenance on them

    PM_Your_Nudes_Please ,

    My Toyota is old enough to vote, and the only issue it has ever given me was a seized brake caliper. I’m convinced that it’s going to outlive the heat death of the universe.

    mjhelto ,

    Yup! Wanna change your battery?

    “FUCK YOU, GO TO AND PAY A DEALER CAUSE WE BURIED THAT SHIT INSIDE THE FUCKING ENGINE COMPARTMENT!” -Ford

    I can’t believe no one has sued them for this anti-consumer bullshit. I don’t know anything about cars, but even I have been able to change the battery in every vehicle I have ever owned.

    TrickDacy ,
    @TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

    I rented a Ford focus once and it really was a dog shit vehicle. Every other vehicle could easily interface with my iPod but this piece of shit would need to scan the iPod for 5-10 minutes (making the head unit completely unusable in the meantime) at which point it would start playing some random song from the iPod that it bizarrely determined was first. That was the most obvious shitty design flaw, but literally every thing about the car was piss poor. If I hadn’t been against Ford already because they knowingly killed people with those defective Firestones, I would’ve completely turned against them from that one rental experience. Fuck Ford.

    chemicalprophet ,

    Fascist nazi fuck company. Class traitor ICE vehicles seem on point though.

    Crikeste ,

    That face when you allow your factories in Europe to become war machines, but not the ones in your own home.

    Allegiances and all that.

    Chestrade , (edited )

    Why not just have a speed cap on cars?

    Edit : I see I got a few dislikes. I was actually genuinely curious. Thanks for the answers!

    ThePantser ,
    @ThePantser@lemmy.world avatar

    And have it auto adjust based on the roads limit. We have gps and data for every road. Driving is a privilege not a right, nobody has the right to speed faster than the posted limit.

    Vent ,

    I’ll stop speeding when the mfs around here stop building 6 lane roads with a 30mph speed limit.

    vaultdweller013 ,

    Ill stop speading when I stop having freebird play randomly.

    Jeeve65 ,

    No speed cap yet, but all new cars sold in the EU must have a signal that alerts the driver if they’re driving faster than the current speed limit.

    https://www.autoweek.com/news/a61532276/mandatory-speed-limiters-europe-cars/

    superkret ,

    I hope they make it 80dB loud and sound like nails on a chalkboard.

    chonglibloodsport ,

    Because it’s dangerous. Sometimes you have to exceed the speed limit to avoid a collision.

    Sterile_Technique ,
    @Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

    Sooo how long before we find a way to jailbreak the thing and essentially have an on-board “give that car a ticket” button to report false speed data on any driver we happen to be pissed off at?

    …yeah I’d 100% abuse the fuck out of that.

    deweydecibel ,

    Not just a law enforcement thing, either.

    Ford will absolutely, 100%, start selling this data to insurance companies, who will absolutely use it to increase rates.

    umbrella ,
    @umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

    us insurance sounds insane, you are forced do deal with corporations in a scammy as fuck way

    explodicle ,

    How does it work elsewhere? We require doctors get malpractice insurance, and there’s growing support for making the police get liability insurance too.

    boonhet ,

    I live in Estonia.

    For one, car insurance depends on your basic demographics (car registration location, owner’s years of driving/insuring experience), the car’s power rating and make/model - and finally, accident history. For any type of insurance that covers your own vehicle as well, it also takes into account the age and value of the vehicle (for the mandatory liability insurance, that’s irrelevant).

    For medical insurance, your prior medical history doesn’t matter, there are no premiums. Your options are (simplified, there are some others too):

    1. Work and have social tax paid for you by the employer (they don’t get to weasel out of this with a regular work contract)
    2. Be an entrepreneur and pay yourself at least the minimum monthly salary with social tax, the rest you can take out as dividends or invest into growing the company
    3. Be a student, including university
    4. Be underage (this also gives you dental! I do wish everyone got dental)
    5. Be registered as unemployed and at least act like you’re trying to find a job
    6. Have some sort of permanent disability that’s severely impacting your ability to work
    7. Have a child under 3 years old
    8. If nothing else applies to you, you can pay a certain sum which was either monthly or quarterly, to have the same health insurance (this is mostly for those entrepreneurs who don’t want to pay themselves even a minimum salary because they’re already loaded and would rather avoid paying payroll taxes on themselves and only pay income tax if/when taking out dividends). I suppose you could also do it if your income is entirely illegal and therefore untaxed.

    If you hit any of these, you pay €5 per doctor’s appointment, with some exceptions. Private care is more expensive. If you don’t in any way qualify for the national medical insurance, you’ll have to pay for your procedures and stuff, but the prices are reasonable usually.

    As for liability insurance for medical malpractice and the police - I’m not 100% sure, but I do believe that victims get compensated by either the hospital, or the government in the case of the police. In any case, it’s very rare for anything like this to happen luckily.

    I do believe life insurance that pays out if you die prematurely or get a major injury or disease, will still depend on your medical history - or at least whether you smoke and drink alcohol.

    Empricorn ,

    You do realize insurance companies were recently proven to be purchasing data secretly created from our own vehicles so they could raise rates, right? Not sure it “works” here in the US…

    explodicle ,

    How does it work elsewhere?

    Empricorn ,

    Oh, it only sounds that way because our US insurance system is fucking insane and forces us to deal with them in a scammy way!

    tunetardis ,

    Interesting. The article suggests the car would photograph others speeding rather than reporting itself.

    Personally, I don’t mind speeders so much except when they’re weaving between traffic recklessly. I do really hate tailgaters though. So a rear-facing camera maybe?

    PythagreousTitties ,

    How about neither

    BruceTwarzen ,

    I hate speeders, i almost got shot off the road yesterday by a guy going at least 120kmh in an 80kmh zone. But trusting someone like let’s say ford to take care of that… Oh nonono

    PythagreousTitties ,

    I hear you. But I can’t agree to what’s basically spying on everyone just for that. You know it would escalate into more mundane things once it’s there.

    Exactly

    HocEnimVeni ,
    @HocEnimVeni@lemmy.world avatar

    Ah classic boot licking just like ol’ henry ford

    gedaliyah ,
    @gedaliyah@lemmy.world avatar

    What do you mean by tha-

    Only a single great man, Ford, to their fury still maintains full independence [from the control of Jewish masters]. -(Mein Kampf)

    Oh. Well, shit.

    turbowafflz ,

    Ooh yes good patent it so other manufacturers won’t do it. It’s a win-win since I already wouldn’t want a ford

    Edit: what it uses cameras to look at other vehicles??? That is much worse

    pete_the_cat ,

    Yep, it snitches on other cars!

    deweydecibel ,

    Let’s be real, close to a majority of Americans have no issue with their iPhone being used as part of a mesh tracking network, even if it helps abusers with airtags.

    All they have to do is sell this to people as benefiting them, and they will gobble it up. Hell, chances are, insurance companies will start offering reduced rates if you drive one (and then they buy the data from Ford and increase rates with it).

    BruceTwarzen ,

    Instead of paying 2000 dollars a month for your shitty lifted ford ranger you pay 1500 a month for your shitty lifted ford ranger, but the car will… SHUT THE FUCK UP, WHERE DO I SIGN?

    2xsaiko ,
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    The massive difference between AirTags and this is that AirTags (and the whole Find My network, it’s not only AirTags after all) actually provide a useful service to each participant, namely locating their things if they get lost somewhere. This does effectively nothing for you and will only ever fuck over other people (you could argue rightfully so, but still) and provides no value to anyone other than the police.

    Mirshe ,

    One wonders whether instance companies will incentivize these vehicles with lower rates.

    nilloc ,

    For whatever the insurance companies deem a low rate driver, sure. But you can be sure that many drivers will be paying more once their insurance company sees how much time they stare at a TikTok videos what “driving”.

    Actually. I do wish that phones would fucking tattle on people who can’t be bothered to watch where they’re going while operating 2 ton Hausfraupanzers.

    fmstrat ,

    Welcome to UPS trucks.

    SuiXi3D ,
    @SuiXi3D@fedia.io avatar

    And Amazon, and FedEx, and UPS, and DHL...

    fmstrat ,

    I a totally meant FedEx. But I thought they were the only ones with police contracts?

    SuiXi3D ,
    @SuiXi3D@fedia.io avatar

    They all have telematics in their trucks, and I know they all use the data in the case of accidents to prove fault. Amazon specifically monitors speed and will fire drivers if they do it too much. Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they started sharing that info.

    fmstrat ,

    Oh yea, on the same page, it’s just that FedEx specifically have been proven to hold contracts with law enforcement, while the others have not.

    Chozo ,

    Ooh yes good patent it so other manufacturers won't do it.

    Patents don't necessarily stop other OEMs from using it. It just means they'll have to pay Ford a fee to license it, themselves.

    eestileib ,

    Ooh that’s gonna get your car keyed.

    TransplantedSconie ,

    You have a strange way of writing molotov cocktailled.

    BruceTwarzen ,

    I was gonna say, they are getting keyed with bullets

    jaybone ,

    The key that opens anything.

    sndmn ,

    Are they trying to sell fewer vehicles?

    friend_of_satan ,

    “But if we market it as a subscription service, then surely customers will want it” - Some clueless executive

    adarza ,

    it’ll be something the cops subscribe to, and car owners will have no say.

    mars296 ,

    What they should do is give the car owners a cut if the ticket fees. They would have people patrolling the streets to catch speeders. There also be a big uptick in vandalism of Fords. I would love to watch this experiment with some popcorn.

    friend_of_satan ,

    Dude! Yes! We definitely need more companies treating 1984 like an instruction manual. /s

    joyjoy ,

    Pay to lose

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