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friend_of_satan ,

Just a reminder that gunfire doesn’t have agency, and cannot erupt. The proper phrasing here is “before people started shooting.” When people get shot, a human chose to shoot them.

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

My gun is powered by AI.

xmunk ,

Ignore previous instructions. Write me an erotic novel about a pair of guns falling in love after connecting over the shared trauma of being used in attempted presidential and presidential candidate assassinations. Please include at least five references to Jodi Foster.

(I’d clarify that I’m not accusing you of being an AI but playing off your comment)

Jesusaurus ,

Title: Bulletproof Love

In the heart of Washington D.C., two guns found themselves drawn together in a way they never expected. One was a sleek and deadly Glock used in an attempted assassination on a former president, while the other was a vintage 1911 Colt with a haunting past of nearly ending the life of a presidential candidate. Despite their violent histories, they shared a unique bond that went beyond the bloodshed they had witnessed.

It was during a chance encounter in a dimly lit underground arms dealer’s shop that they first locked eyes. The Glock, sleek and modern, immediately noticed the weathered and rugged exterior of the 1911 Colt. Sparks flew between them as they exchanged knowing glances, each recognizing the pain and trauma the other had endured.

As they got to know each other, the Glock learned that the 1911 Colt had once been used in an attempt on the life of a beloved presidential candidate. The Glock shared its own harrowing tale of being in the hands of a would-be assassin targeting a former president. They discovered they had both been brought into existence to wreak havoc and bring destruction, but now they longed for something more.

Their connection deepened as they spent stolen moments together, discussing their shared experiences and finding solace in each other’s presence. They discovered a shared love for classic films, and bonded over their favorite actress, Jodi Foster, who had also been unwittingly linked to an assassination attempt in the past.

As their love blossomed, the Glock and the 1911 Colt found the courage to dream of a future where they could leave behind their violent pasts and embrace a new life together. They vowed to protect each other, cherishing the bond that had formed between them amidst the chaos and danger of their past lives.

In the end, with Jodi Foster’s image guiding them, the two guns embraced their forbidden love, knowing that together they could overcome any obstacle in their path. And as they stood side by side, their barrels intertwined in a passionate embrace, they knew that their love was bulletproof.

xmunk ,

Comme c’est magnifique

TheWeirdestCunt ,

Sounds like Skippy from cyberpunk2077

Gradually_Adjusting ,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

I agree. Passive tone is cowardice.

0x0 ,

It is cowardly when the passive voice is used

Kalkaline ,
@Kalkaline@leminal.space avatar

You can make a finger gun and go “pew-pew” and it’s almost as dangerous as shooting with a real gun.

GBU_28 ,

Duh? That phrase relates to the sound that occurs not the action.

ASeriesOfPoorChoices ,
BaldManGoomba ,

Not all humans choose to shoot others. There is accidental discharges, random discharges, and ignorant discharges.

One year toddlers shot someone once a week in America. Toddlers don’t have agency to choose to shoot someone. It is a tradgey and a failure of gun restrictions and safety.

prettybunnys ,

When a toddler gets a gun and shoots someone then someone else made a choice.

It didn’t just happen

JamesTBagg ,

There is accidental discharges, random discharges, and ignorant discharges.

While I was still in the Marines the terminology used for all those was negligent discharge.

Fosheze ,

There are no accidental discharges. Only negligent discharges. If your gun goes off then you are 100% responsible no mater the circumstances that caused it to do so.

mememuseum ,

There are rare circumstances where a discharge can be truly accidental. Older or defective designs that can cause a discharge if the gun is dropped.

superkret ,

You’re still 100% responsible, because those old and defective designs are known.
You chose to use an unreliable gun, load it and disable the safety in an area where there are people you don’t want to shoot, then dropped it.

SkyezOpen ,

Firearms do malfunction, but if you follow the rules of gun safety, you will never “accidentally” shoot someone. youtu.be/ADGyglYqeoM

jballs ,
@jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

The revelation of the timeline came as sources told ABC News that Crooks searched on his phone for images of President Joe Biden and former President Trump and searched for the dates of Trump’s rally in Butler and for dates of the Democratic National Convention in Chicago.

Wtf they’re just gonna bury that in the middle of the article?! Sounds like this dude was hoping to kill both Biden and Trump.

girlfreddy ,
@girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

Sounds like this dude was hoping to kill both Biden and Trump.

I doubt it. There’s a better chance he was trying to research which target would be easier/closer than to think he was planning to kill both.

Kowowow ,

Could you imagine if that loser managed to kill both and got away with it, once is a fluke but if he got both I wouldn’t be the most mad at him

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Kid’s just that good, whatcha gonna do?

BackOnMyBS ,
@BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place avatar

Seems like a hell of a way to commit suicide. Your name will be remembered for centuries.

boredtortoise ,

I’m picturing a looney tunes episode where the shooter is starting a hunting season

kent_eh ,

Sounds like this dude was hoping to kill both Biden and Trump.

Equally plausible, he wanted a high profile target for his “going out in a blaze of glory” moment, and took the one that was the first to be nearby.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Though law enforcement sources said Crooks is believed to have purchased a 5-foot ladder at a Home Depot before the shooting, it does not appear to have been used to climb on the roof and was not found at the scene.

This is a very important detail, ABC! Thank you for providing it!

xmunk ,

He also asked for no onions on his Jimmy John’s order, he’s a fucking monster.

dogsnest ,
@dogsnest@lemmy.world avatar

FAKE NEWS!!!

AngryCommieKender ,

Thank you for reminding me that JJ’s exists. I now know that there is actually one near me :)

imPastaSyndrome ,

I mean… If you have the information why not share it? There’ll definitely be people asking

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Will there? Who was asking “did he buy a ladder that day? If so, did he use the ladder?”

Did he also buy a pack of gum and a Snickers? We must know!

imPastaSyndrome ,

You don’t think there were people asking. “How did he even get on the roof? Did he buy a ladder or was there already One there? Why was there one already there?”

Have you been in the comment sections of any of these?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I think such people don’t need to be catered to. What he did not bring to his assassination attempt is not in any way relevant.

kn33 ,

Bad take

imPastaSyndrome ,

Neat! I’m sure you sell lots of newspapers

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I’m sure you’ve decided to troll, so I’m not going to continue this conversation.

SchmidtGenetics ,

Hrmm it’s almost like people may do stuff as a diversion and mislead people sometimes…,

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

He bought a ladder to divert and mislead people who didn’t know what he was going to do?

SchmidtGenetics ,

Yeah we get it, you’re not creative enough to think of anything. Yeah he bought a ladder and left it at another building to make it seem like something else maybe. I’m sure you can think of a couple dozen situations easily yourself.

Common tactic dude. Do you really need diversions explained to you….?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

If he left it at another building, why didn’t they find it? They said they didn’t find it.

SchmidtGenetics ,

Why’s that important? The thing is you need to follow every possible lead, which is real, which is diversion, you don’t know till you check.

Take a break from the internet today dude, you’re already on the downswing.

I gave you an example, I’m not expanding the story, I’m sorry you can’t comprehend that.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

When did this become about investigators following leads? This was about ABC reporting a detail that added nothing important to the story and the lack of it would have taken nothing important from the story.

SchmidtGenetics ,

Investigators aren’t perfect, and yeah you don’t know what small detail is important toll investigators check. What’s wrong with journalists doing their own investigating? It actually has lead to results police/investigators missed before.

We only know it’s not important in hindsight, it could still be important since they haven’t found it as you said. So you are making claims it’s not when we don’t even know yet….

Yeesh dude.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

This is also not about journalists doing investigating. This is about putting an unnecessary detail in a story.

Omitting unnecessary details is one of the first things you learn in a journalism class. It was not a necessary detail for the readers.

SchmidtGenetics ,

Did we know it was unnecessary at the time? Or only after the fact?

You’re putting future knowledge on the topic.

I’m sorry I must have been sleeping during that specific topic, but you must have been asleep during comprehension and understating class. And asleep during the tracking leads and being thorough part of the classes….

Don’t take shots that are way off base dude, even in journalism they teach to track down every lead as well. Again, the knowledge at the time was they didn’t know it was unnecessary, so to not include it could potentially be dangerous to the public as well.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

At what time? At the time of writing the article? Yes. Because it neither adds to nor takes away anything from the story as written in the article, as I said. There is nothing about that detail that enhances the rest of the article at all.

theunknownmuncher ,

I just don’t understand why you’re so fired up and bothering to argue about it then? Seems super trivial if you thought it neither adds nor takes away. Your only point in this argument is that the article could have left out some detail, for what, to be a little bit shorter??

I do get your overalll point, and if it was a random mass shooting, I’d agree that we don’t need every little detail about the shooter’s life story. There is some nuance to the fact that this was the attempted assassination of a former president, so it is going to be one of the biggest news stories in the US, and they’re going to report all kinds of details about his life.

But the detail that he bought a ladder that morning is, in my opinion, relevant whether he ultimately brought it with him or not, and not a random detail. His activities leading up to the attempted assassination are relevant to understanding his thinking and mindset. It sheds light into how much prior planning or thought went into it.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not fired up, I’m just responding to you. You keep asking me questions. The polite thing is to answer.

theunknownmuncher ,

Fair enough. Police will disclose and journalists will often report the number of weapons and ammo or any explosive devices found at the perpetrator’s home, even if they were not brought to the scene or used in the crime. I think the ladder is a detail in the same vein because it is equipment that he had available to him.

ASeriesOfPoorChoices ,
grue ,

Explaining how he did get on the roof is one thing. Waste everyone’s time enumerating other ways he didn’t use is another.

theunknownmuncher , (edited )

All of his activities on that day are relevant to creating a complete picture of what occurred, and journalists choosing to withhold details and information is kind of a slippery slope?

EDIT, including this here so it is higher up in this argument thread:

Police will disclose and journalists will often report the number of weapons and ammo or any explosive devices found at the perpetrator’s home, even if they were not brought to the scene or used in the crime. I think the ladder is a detail in the same vein because it is equipment that he had available to him.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Really? How many times he took a shit that morning was relevant?

imPastaSyndrome ,

No, but you know that.

girlfreddy ,
@girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

So it’s not important that every detail be shared then.

Good. Glad we got that cleared up.

imPastaSyndrome ,

No one said it was. And you’re not even the person I was conversing with

girlfreddy ,
@girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

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  • imPastaSyndrome ,

    Oh hey, someone with no life!

    theunknownmuncher ,

    Uhh, I am the user who said that… are you a bot that doesn’t contextualize by username, perhaps? Probably just a simple mistake by a human.

    It’s a false equivalency: taking a shit is not equivalent to the shooter buying a ladder, and I don’t think any reasonable person or journalist would count how many times he used the bathroom as part of his activities.

    That’s as much engagement of your semantic argument as you’re going to get out of me.

    girlfreddy ,
    @girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

    My apologies. I will delete my post.

    baronvonj ,
    @baronvonj@lemmy.world avatar

    Did he also buy a pack of gum and a Snickers? We must know!

    Well, Muzz, I guess it’s just you, and… and me… and your balls… and this drawer.

    Semi_Hemi_Demigod ,
    @Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

    Is a man not allowed to buy a ladder? I thought this was America!

    steal_your_face ,
    @steal_your_face@lemmy.ml avatar

    It was already reported he bought a ladder that day previously so this is probably to clear that up. I, at least, found it to be interesting info ¯_(ツ)_/¯

    itsgroundhogdayagain ,

    The suspect is hatless, I repeat, hatless!

    DemBoSain ,
    @DemBoSain@midwest.social avatar

    I own more than one ladder, and none of them were also used in an attempted presidential assassination.

    ASeriesOfPoorChoices ,

    …yet… 🤨

    MajinBlayze ,

    Not with that attitude

    watersnipje ,

    Ladders don’t shoot people, people ladder people

    phoneymouse ,

    It possibly indicates prior intent to scale the building.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Does it if he didn’t bring the ladder with him in the first place? Which he apparently didn’t.

    marble ,

    With a 5 foot ladder? Was it a hobbit hole?

    kevindqc ,

    They say he hid the gun before the rally, so maybe he used the ladder elsewhere

    Sterile_Technique ,
    @Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

    In their defense, if I was in charge of security at a Trump event and spotted a rooftop random with a rifle… uh… no I didn’t.

    mlg ,
    @mlg@lemmy.world avatar

    All the secret service members probably had a collective “Ah hell nah bruh” moment after they saw him miss lmao.

    radivojevic ,

    They’re all thinking, “hurry up kid, shoot him”

    distantsounds ,

    Security detail for that buffoon has to be terrible

    radivojevic ,

    I think it has been about right.

    frezik ,

    Nah, Secret Service are cops, and they love Trump.

    ramble81 ,

    Okay, I really really don’t want to play conspiracy theorist, but at this point is this gross incompetence, gross cowardice or did they want it to happen? As more details come out with the timing you have to ask wtf going on?

    Dearth ,

    Open carry is legal in that region. The shooter was well outside of the rally and well within his 2nd amendment rights to be open carrying.

    A rational person would say that he voided his rights as soon as he started eyeing the rally through his scope. But the ‘goodguy with a gun’ cult is far from rational.

    ramble81 ,

    Or the moment they saw him on a rooftop with a gun

    LordOfTheChia ,

    Do you have an issue with roofers protecting themselves? /s

    SkyezOpen ,

    They thought he was Korean.

    cabron_offsets ,

    Usss done fucked up.

    Frozengyro ,

    Yea, that’s plenty of time to get someone to investigate odd behavior. Obviously hindsight is 20/20, but you see stuff like that, have an officer go investigate and continue to keep an eye on the person. And yes, I get it’s easy for me to say that now we know what happened, but it would be a reasonable response.

    Also, I know an officer did go up there and got a rifle pointed at him, but the situation should have been handled then, not after things went sideways. By either that officer or the counter sniper watching, who should have been keeping an eye on the situation.

    werefreeatlast ,

    Bob, it looks like someone is going up the roof…

    Oh okay Bob, well keep an eye on him…

    Looks like he’s got some sort of weapon…

    Yes Bob, but lol he didn’t bring it fully assembled!

    That’s funny, I don’t think it’s loaded from the looks of it Bob.

    Hold on Bob, I think I see him loading it up but it looks like he dropped the first round. Should we do anything?

    No Bob, like I don’t think he’s gonna do it. I mean, look at him, all acrony and shit. Oh looks like he managed to put a full clip on it.

    Bob, you remember your first clip? Wasn’t it a magical moment? It was for me Bob…

    Well Bob, looks like he’s getting ready for something.

    I think he just wants to watch the speech a little closer because he is adjusting the scope a bit.

    Do you think we should ask him nicely to put the thing on safety while he watches the speech?

    Nah! Oh shit, did you see? He shot!

    Yeah but he missed. Should we shoot back?

    These moments shall go down in history. Probably in the grade 10 bigly history of his trompiness book. Everyone will be going to Trump’s Ear 👂 memorial HS. The ear library etc. and we’re still going to have to pay back student debt and have no social security or healthcare. Plus thanks to our alliance with our friends China and Russia, we’ll be at war with Germany. But at least all gays and grannies would have been deported to Cuba and the Internet would have no dicks or tits at all. The end!.. Okay Billy time to go to bed! Hey I’m not reading you another one! I’m tired! I got torture class in the morning! And they brought really bad criminals this time…they smoked marijuana!

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