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Jack Black axes tour over bandmate's Trump comment

Jack Black has said he’s cancelled the rest of the Tenacious D world tour after his bandmate Kyle Gass sparked an outcry with a comment about the assassination attempt on Donald Trump.

The comedy rock group were on stage in Sydney, Australia, on Sunday when Gass was asked to make a wish after being presented with a cake for his 64th birthday.

He appeared to reply: “Don’t miss Trump next time.”

Gass also split with his agent following the incident.

Transporter_Room_3 ,
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Never thought I’d see the day where, when it comes down to it, JaBles shows he has no spine and folds like the cheap suit his character wore in school of rock.

nokturne213 ,

If they can say the quiet part out loud, why can’t we?

radivojevic ,

Because of mods. Most other communities on Lemmy will let you crack jokes like that. There are two specific mods who just perm ban anyone saying that about Trump, but not about Biden

mozz ,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

I would be extremely surprised if joking about assassinating Biden was kosher with any of the mods

Passerby6497 ,

Because everyone outside of the right thinks you have to uphold decorum while they burn shit down around our ears.

mozz ,
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You’re not wrong, but not normalizing political assassinations is about quite a bit more than “decorum”

This is like saying “well this guy is doing date rapes so I don’t see why I can’t joke about raping his sister”

The answer is 0 assassinations. The answer is the rule of law. I actually 100% agree with you that most of the political left has its head in the sand about the urgency of coming to grips with what the right wants to do and stopping it, but “let’s go ahead and have the civil war then, what’s the worst that could ensue” is about the worst possible take and strategy that you could employ in response

Passerby6497 ,

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not advocating for anyone being assassinated at all. But my point still stands, in that the right has no sense of decorum and everyone else falls over themselves to tone police anything even slightly unseemly.

mozz ,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

Like I say, you're not wrong on that; I only really said anything because of the topic where it's being discussed and the implication to this event.

Somewhere between tone policing, and approving of the assassination of your opponents, the truth lies.

usualsuspect191 ,

I’d argue there’s a big difference between wishing someone to be killed, and witnessing them almost die and wishing the outcome had just been a bit different. Like, you don’t want it it happen in the first place, but have an opinion on the outcome if it did anyways.

He’s not saying “I wish someone would go out and kill Trump”, it’s “if a bullet was already flying towards Trump I wish it had hit him, especially instead of a random crowd member behind him”.

kshade ,
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He’s not saying “I wish someone would go out and kill Trump”, it’s “if a bullet was already flying towards Trump I wish it had hit him, especially instead of a random crowd member behind him”.

He said “don’t miss Trump next time”.

CaptainKickass ,

Today we are all Kyle Gass fans

xc2215x ,

I understand Jack here.

Melatonin ,

I don’t let my kids get away with “He did it first!”

We want change? We want to see more rational and measured speech in the public forum? We want good to win over evil?

Then sure, we fight evil. But we keep our character. If we don’t, then what’s the difference if they win or we do?

Omegamanthethird OP ,
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I do not condemn people who celebrate murderers and rapists getting the death penalty. And I even feel the same way myself, although I don’t support the death penalty.

I refuse to condemn people who want him gone, even though I don’t want a system that allows it.

snooggums ,
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“Hitler should have lived to be defeated with words!”

Omegamanthethird OP ,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t want a system that allows political violence. However, I would not have been upset if they were successful in this case.

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

Exactly.

Trump has promoted enough violence and the Republicans have put up enough barriers to holding him accountable that we are on the precipice of a fascist toyalitarian regime. Since SCOTUS has made putting him in jail impossible for the forseeable future, his death is the second best option and I am disappointed that someone from his own side failed.

Melatonin ,

We fight evil. But not with death camps. We don’t use their methods.

Is that so hard to understand?

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

It isn’t hard since I am only supporting violence as a defense to violence. The leap to death camps doesn’t fit in there anywhere.

Try to keep up.

Melatonin ,

Political violence.

A whole different ball of wax.

Hey I won’t be continuing this back and forth with you because I’m pretty sure you’re not the type who will ever agree with me. So have a nice day.

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

Oh, then I guess nobody should defend themselves against violence if it would be seen as pOlItIcAl

PepperoniNipple ,

Dude, absolutely everything is political. Everything, since the dawn of time, 2024 years ago up to today.

Hating on black people, treating them like shit, same for gays, transexuals, women, immigrants… It’s all political. Politics is just another word for influence, influencers, people with the power to lie and fool a bunch of idiots into getting innocent people killed for stupid reasons like the ones I just listed.

Refusing to do anything about it or play this stupid game of “violence scawy, violence is not the answer” just makes you as evil as they are, because of people with mindsets like yours, millions of poor vulnerable people are paying for your comfort with their lives every goddamn day.

As a mexican, I fucking despise when I see you treat 9/11 like “the worst thing that has ever happened in human history”, or when you call yourselves “expats” instead of what you truly are, an illegal immigrant alien pos. Way more mexicans have died to americans than americans have died to mexicans, you lost our sympathy a long time ago, all of it. And seeing half pf you still voting for Trump again is just the end of it, a lot of us are openly welcoming China and Russia to come here to do whatever the fuck they want. We know you hate that, and we don’t care anymore thanks to inhumane mindsets and attitudes like yours and all of republicans’

ohwhatfollyisman ,

this comment needs to be higher. it’s amazing how little self-awareness people have when they show astonishment that only Trump can act like Trump.

well, duh, that’s why he’s a dickhead. wishing him harm only makes one another bird of the same feather.

FlyingSquid ,
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Can I wish, like Douglas Adams said of the second-worst poet in the universe:

his own major intestine, in a desperate attempt to save humanity, leapt straight up through his neck and throttled his brain

WanderingVentra ,

Wishing harm on someone who causes other people greater harm for causing that harm doesn’t make you the same at all.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

“It’s good that Batman has spared the Joker dozens of times, allowing him to kill thousands of people!”

Duke_Nukem_1990 , (edited )

Right??

They go low, we go high!!! (and then we die)

halykthered ,
@halykthered@lemmy.ml avatar

Trump assassination attempt causes Tenacious D to break up was not on my 2024 bingo card.

CaptainSpaceman ,

Comedy group makes joke on stage, more at 11

Guy_Fieris_Hair ,

And here we are with the unpredictable ridiculous shit happening purely because Trump is around again. I for one did not miss 2016-2020.

archonet ,

I want to get off of Mr. Trump’s Wild Ride

NineMileTower ,

Last week Kyle quit the band Now we’re back together Misunderstanding Didn’t understand It doesn’t matter Now we’re back together again

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I so want this to be an epic version of that song.

HeyJoe ,

I guess trump is the only one allowed to make disrespectful comments about other people that almost die and it is just ok.

Organichedgehog ,

So you don’t think it’s ok for trump to make disrespectful comments about other people that almost die? Hmmmm

PythagreousTitties ,

So you have no reading comprehension? Hmmmm

Organichedgehog ,

Bet you can’t explain to me how I’m wrong about his comment lol

Explain to me how he didnt imply that it’s not ok for trump to do it.

Or maybe you’re the one with terrible reading comprehension?

PythagreousTitties ,

The comment is criticizing the fact that Trump can seemingly say and do whatever he wants and gets away with it. While if anyone else does it they’re called out on it.

Organichedgehog ,

So you think the implication of the original post was “everyone should be able to make disrespectful comments about people that almost die and it’s ok”?

Or is the implication “it’s not ok for people to make disrespectful comments about people that almost die”?

This isn’t complicated, those are the only two interpretations of the original comment. Only one of them is a realistic interpretation, and it - along with a lot of comments in this thread - are overtly hypocritical.

Don’t think I’ll win over you or the hypocrite-hivemind, and I don’t particularly care. Later.

PythagreousTitties ,

Cool overdramatic story, bro

Organichedgehog ,

Uhhh what lol

Explaining how reading works = overdramatic

Is English your native language?

Fapper_McFapper ,

It’s clearly not yours.

Organichedgehog ,

The “NUH UH, YOU!1!” response is exactly what I’d expect from someone with such a tenuous grasp on the English language

PythagreousTitties ,

Look man, you’re obviously trying way too hard to argue with someone. It’s not going to be with me, I couldn’t care less what you think.

Brush up on your English lessons and chill the fuck out.

Organichedgehog ,

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    Eccitaze ,
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    Ah, so you’re a literal 90s-era troll.

    Organichedgehog ,

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    PythagreousTitties ,

    Is that why you stopped learning English?

    Organichedgehog ,

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    PythagreousTitties ,

    Oh, are you at the “repeat the same thing over and over” phase of your little temper tantrum?

    Organichedgehog ,

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    PythagreousTitties ,

    Couldn’t means could not.
    I could not care less.

    Keep missing every ball, bud. At least you’re good at something.

    Organichedgehog ,

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    iAmTheTot ,

    No, it’s not okay. Two wrongs don’t make a right. Criticizing the language Trump uses but then praising Kyle would be hypocrisy.

    mozz ,
    @mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

    Who the FUCK is downvoting this

    Dragging the whole US down into a landscape where political assassination is acceptable is exactly the right’s goal. As soon as it’s normalized even a little bit, that little tail which currently has a handful of right-wing nuts with pipe bombs and hammers who is actually acting on it is gonna grow to encompass a huge, MASSIVE number of Facebook uncles

    And then I can guarantee that all the people who are celebrating this will no longer be celebrating

    knightly ,
    @knightly@pawb.social avatar

    Good.

    Politicians should be terrified of the monstrous political movement they’ve created and/or worked alongside.

    If they didn’t want to fear for their lives, then they should have worked for the benefit of the people rather than the shareholders.

    mozz ,
    @mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

    Your idea that the violence will wind up mainly directed against anyone other than the politicians working for good outcomes, and vulnerable ordinary people both in and out of the US, is unfounded.

    knightly ,
    @knightly@pawb.social avatar

    That seems to be your idea, I don’t recall suggesting anything like that.

    mozz , (edited )
    @mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

    I feel like this is one of those “output only, no input” conversations

    I am suggesting that the people who will be “terrified” and “fear for their lives” will be working people trying to organize a better future, and politicians (such of them that even exist) that are aligned with working people. And that the people working on behalf of the shareholders will be A-ok, mostly speaking, because they’ll be the ones whose followers are doing most of the politician-shooting, and have plenty of money to organize good security for themselves.

    You can read “How Democracies Die” or “On Tyranny” for a lot more in depth characterization of how it often plays out historically speaking. I get what you’re saying but I think it is a comically rosy picture of how violent revolutions against oppressive political movements turn out in reality.

    crazyminner ,

    I mean it already has? It just happened?? How is it unfounded?

    mozz ,
    @mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

    Random political violence by the right just happened

    The idea that that can be consistently relied upon to aim also at the right, and productive of some useful political output in terms of justice for working people, is what I am saying is unfounded

    tlou3please ,

    I don’t think he’s saying either are okay, just pointing out the double standard. That’s how I read it anyway.

    Fapper_McFapper ,

    I stand with Kyle. I love Jack Black but fuck this fucking fake outrage. What comes out of Trump’s mouth and the plans he has for this country and certain demographics are infinitely more offensive.

    billiam0202 ,

    How dare you not be civil while they’re rounding people up and putting them in camps!

    disguy_ovahea ,

    JB’s response may be more of a concern for their safety than just an attempt to mitigate bad publicity. There are a lot more Trump supporters with guns than without.

    Fapper_McFapper ,

    That’s a possibility. Thanks for that point of view.

    spiderhamster ,

    Terrorism wins again.

    Aphelion ,

    Fearing for their safety on an Australian tour? No, if you read the article the response is all political and Australian politicians were calling for the band’s deportation.

    Soulg ,

    Those people remember this shit and hold grudges. It could easily follow them home.

    MagicShel ,

    What makes you think the outage is fake? If he doesn’t believe in political violence (doesn’t seem like that should be a controversial opinion even if you disagree), or at least believes in separating his private thoughts from his stage personality, I imagine the outrage is completely real. I’d imagine he very much did not want Kyle to implicate him by saying it in a very public venue with Jack on stage, even if he privately agrees.

    I don’t know who he is in private but his public face is very much, “it’s all about the music, man!” and being innocuous. Being divisive can only hurt his popularity, and very much his bottom line as he and anyone thinking of casting him have to worry about boycotts and review bombs, to say nothing of targeted political violence against him and his fans.

    Also, yes Trump and his followers espouse political violence. Do we want to normalize that? Really? That’s a scary thought to me because I don’t know how we put that genie back in the bottle. Right now it remains outrageous when the right does it, but if the left does as well then we can’t condemn it without hypocrisy. It’s just the new normal - we kill each other when we can’t get what we want through other means.

    That thought very much frightens me because I don’t know how we all walk away from the precipice. I get Jack’s perspective and I’d be outraged about being put in the position of seeming to endorse that as well.

    I guess bring on the downvotes if you must. I’ve got nothing to lose by speaking my mind.

    snooggums ,
    @snooggums@midwest.social avatar

    Have fun not fighting back against fascists because defending against violence with violence would be “sinking ot their level”.

    MagicShel ,

    Yeah well if we’re all acting like fascists then none of us are.

    androogee ,

    Fascist is a word that means something.

    It’s not that.

    Please stop using it carelessly.

    HaleHirsute ,

    I’m sorry to see you are downvoted, I believe your mature take is correct.

    the_post_of_tom_joad ,

    Read the “paradox of intolerance” if you have not, and wonder after you do who and for what purpose the ‘citizens should never ever resort to violence’ idea serves best. I upvoted you because i like when people speak their minds knowing they’ll be unpopular. I do disagree with you, but ive come to my new belief recently and don’t look down on those i feel are walking on the same path i walked

    MagicShel ,

    I’m aware of it. And I agree with it. It’s nuanced and hard to really get into without writing a book here. I hate Trump and I can’t even say I haven’t considered how much safer I’d feel if he died. That I haven’t at times impatiently wondered when the backlash against stochastic terrorism would inevitably rise up and answer violence with violence.

    Hell if the assassin had gotten him, I think a lot more people would condemn the act from the safety of a post Trump world. But such things threaten to spill into open violence. And who can de-escalate if both sides are doing it? And without de-escalation, what is the end of violence? A horrific outcome no matter which side wins.

    If we won, if we murdered and assassinated every white suprematist, every anti-abortionist, every homophobe and transphobe, every billionaire, who would we even be? And when would we stop?

    I could go on at great length, but I’ll stop here. I appreciate respectful disagreement. I’m not anyone’s enemy here. I value the discussion and opinions I don’t share. I might not have spoken up but I didn’t see anyone else saying the things I felt needed to be said.

    Anyway, salute brother (or however you identify). May we all come out on the other side of this thing together.

    j4k3 ,
    @j4k3@lemmy.world avatar

    Anyone standing behind Trump is a traitor insurrectionist flying the flag of a felon. The world will be a far better place without Trump, and anyone expediting that outcome has my respect as a patriot.

    Populist are the true destroyers of civilizations.

    acockworkorange ,

    A martyr Trump would be much much worse than a living one. Trump needs to be further discredited and the plutocracy as it exists today dismantled, otherwise things will either stay the same or get worse. Tall order, I know, but an assassinated Trump now would be terrible.

    knightly ,
    @knightly@pawb.social avatar

    I disagree, a living martyr is the worst.

    TrickDacy ,

    Yeah this was absolutely worth never being in another movie or TV show /s

    Jimmycakes ,

    It’s probably more they don’t want crazy fucking trumpers taking shots at them. This is a safety issue a very real one. The band probably agrees with what he said but not enough to get killed over it. Which again is a very real possibility. These crazies almost got Trump with his security while Jack black walks around the venue of his shows alone before gigs.

    hypnotoad__ ,
    @hypnotoad__@lemmy.ml avatar

    I find the outrage hilarious considering the rhetoric that comes out of trumps mouth.

    NocturnalMorning ,

    Agreed, kind of a dumb comment to make in front of a large crowd. But the reaction is way overblown.

    PythagreousTitties ,

    If comedians are becoming afraid then you know something is very wrong.

    Daily Show and now these guys canceled events. This is not good.

    Varyk ,

    I guess because…uh…I don’t know, other then black just wanting out of the band, this doesn’t make a lot of sense.

    He said he was “blindsided” by the comment.

    Blindsided? Aren’t they friends?

    Blindsided? By a sentiment I imagine people had been making jokes about since it happened?

    Evilcoleslaw ,

    Blindsided because he didn’t think Kyle would say something that could legitimately hurt JB’s image and thus the rest of his career, which is clearly the priority over Tenacious D.

    Varyk , (edited )

    Right, although he explicitly talks about being blindsided by the politically violent nature of the comment, it sounds disingenuous

    Tenacious D has a 9-minute song on their first album about comedically overthrowing the government where the ultimate joke is that they assassinate each other simultaneously

    solsangraal ,

    they followed up the way they were “supposed to,” but they know low key everyone’s even more of a fan now

    snue ,

    he didn’t cancel the tour - they did. Kyle Gass is as much a member of the band as Jack Black is

    FlyingSquid ,
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    Jack Black sure makes it sound one-sided.

    www.instagram.com/p/C9e5msPpC3y/

    snue ,

    You’re right about that - he doesn’t say ‘we’ once in that statement

    normally, people dismiss Gass a lot when talking about Tenacious D, but that statement really seems like it was only Jack’s decision

    thanks for telling me

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