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krelvar ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/ee0a8477-eff7-499b-8147-a1bfacd6b53b.jpeg

iiGxC ,

How is this an example of leopards eating faces?

In this case the backlash is from the gay community to a (stupid) member of the gay community, so saying it’s a leopards-eating-faces party (lefp) member getting their face eaten would mean the gay community is the lefp right? I don’t think that’s what the lefp meme is about

Feathercrown ,

You’re right, but people aren’t listening to what your point is. Come on lemmy, you’re better than this

SOMETHINGSWRONG ,

No you and that commenter are literally wrong lmfao what do you even mean.

The meme derives humor from the fact that someone who voted for leopards was surprised when leopards hurt them.

The gays in the article supported bigots and was surprised when the bigots started to hurt them.

Feathercrown ,

The article’s ambiguous, but I read it as the LGBT community (rightfully) showering them with sand, not bigots doing it to be dicks.

TallonMetroid ,
@TallonMetroid@lemmy.world avatar

That would fit with the rest of the article, which includes the fellow who got blacklisted from his local gay bar for being MAGA.

frunch ,

Hey hey now I’m just here to argue, not read articles

androogee ,

It’s the dumbest possible thing to argue about, and the Internet is 86% people finding dumb things to argue about

theangryseal ,

I don’t take kindly to your tone! There are a thousand other ways you could have said this. Let’s fight about it!

Oh, yeah! Also, your mom is fat and you over feed your pets, I’m assuming.

androogee ,

Your lover made a minor faux pas? They’re a sociopath and they never loved you.

I bite my thumb at thee

catloaf ,

Ha, that’s my favorite part of that play.

“Is the law of our side if I say aye?”

“No.”

Just plain “no”. Gets me every time.

iiGxC ,

🤷😮‍💨

catsarebadpeople ,

This person supports policies that hurt themselves and their peers. Now their peers are angry with them for supporting things that hurt them. They are being hurt by the result of what they support.

Feathercrown ,

That’s not leopards eating faces though. That’s a guy voting for the leopards-eating-faces party and getting his shit rocked by his fellow citizens for endangering them.

theangryseal ,

A little bit of column A, a lotta bit of column B.

iiGxC ,

Yeah, but in this case it’s not the leopards eating their face (yet). They’ve voted for the leopards, people are angry at them for it, but so far the leopards have only eaten other peoples faces

iiGxC ,

Eh, then you could say voting progressive and getting attacked by your conservative community would count as leopards eating face, since you’re getting hurt by the result of what you support.

The meme is about voting for the harm and being directly harmed by the policy voted for, like if someone voted to ban abortions and then couldn’t get one when they needed it. Voting to ban abortions and then getting backlash from your friends is not leopards eating face (yet) either

Someonelol ,
@Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

This guy is voting not only to have his own face eaten, but everyone else’s within his community. I wouldn’t want to acquaint myself with someone like that either.

iiGxC ,

I’m not saying the guy did a good thing. In this article he voted for the leopard party, but hasn’t had his face eaten yet. He voted for the leopard party and everyone was fucking pissed at him for it

idk I thought the leopards eating faces party meme was mainly for examples of them both voting for leopards and getting their face eaten.

Someonelol ,
@Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

It’s a little more nuanced than that. The typical face eating leopards voter doesn’t have enough critical thinking to figure out they’ll get eaten eventually. Everyone else around him knows they’re gourmet leopard food and it’s only a matter of time before they’d get eaten. I wouldn’t wait to hold my judgment on the guy until after the inevitable happens because of his dumb-ass decision.

iiGxC ,

I see, so the meme is also used in cases where they voted for the leopards but haven’t had their face eaten yet?

iiGxC ,

“When Trump won, my husband was so upset he wanted me out of our apartment. The rage was unexplainable — I mean honest rage. I could not understand this emotion in him and why anyone would let a political vote destroy or nearly destroy a marriage,” he said.

if you vote for someone who’d like to make your marriage illegal, it’s gonna strain the marriage duuude

wreckedcarzz ,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

“but I just don’t understand that” -that dumbass

Blackmist ,

Reminds me of my sister-in-law’s husband, who fell heavily into Brexit propaganda. Ranting about foreigners coming over, to his wife’s face. She was from Iceland.

They’re divorced now, oddly enough.

NatakuNox , (edited )
@NatakuNox@lemmy.world avatar

It’s just the none white foreigners he was mad about, dude should have clarified his position…

TheRealKuni ,

It’s just the none white foreigners he was mad about, dude should have clarified his position…

I dunno, Brexiters seemed to have a lot of trouble with the Polish.

catloaf ,

“White” has a very flexible definition depending on the racism du jour. In the US, plenty of Europeans, like Irish, Spanish, and Italian people weren’t considered “white” for a long time.

But now we’ve got plenty of brown and black people to be even more racist against, so they get to be “white” these days.

TheRealKuni ,

Well of course. Race is a social construct, how we define races depends entirely on the society and its prejudices.

Blackmist ,

Don’t forget them “Romanian” Gypsies!

It’s a crying shame really, because if they’d sat down and spoke to a Romanian, they’d find that hatred of gypsies is one of the few things they’ve got in common.

eldavi ,

I dunno, Brexiters seemed to have a lot of trouble with the Polish.

there have been many examples and treatises of how the whiteness was/is non-uniform in the united states; is the same true in england?

lolcatnip ,

Option 1: Use coded language that directly attacks your spouse.
Option 2: Openly admit to being a hardcore racist.

Sucks to suck.

ImADifferentBird ,
@ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I’ve had a lot of people pull the “It’s just politics, why are you so mad?” card, especially after Trump won. Just shows this is all a game to them, that they do not give a shit about the consequences of their actions.

Most of the ones who did it to me were straight white people though, so they were insulated by their privilege. It takes a whole other level of delusion to play that game when you’re one of the minorities these assholes target.

eldavi , (edited )

Most of the ones who did it to me were straight white people though, so they were insulated by their privilege. It takes a whole other level of delusion to play that game when you’re one of the minorities these assholes target.

insulated by their privilege is the right phrase; i was fucked over multiple times by biden et al’s banning of gays from marriage & federal service and student loans, but if you mention it now you get labeled as a tankie or russian/chinese shill; only the younger gays and the people who biden et al. hasn’t fucked over get to enjoy this privilege while people in my situation have to forget or white knuckle it.

ImADifferentBird ,
@ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Agreed. A lot of those views seem to have genuinely softened as he aged (after all, he actively championed gay marriage during the Obama admin), but still, there is a lot of unsavory shit from his time as a senator, and it does take a lot of effort to reconcile that.

eldavi ,

A lot of those views seem to have genuinely softened as he aged (after all, he actively championed gay marriage during the Obama admin)

he also actively campaigned on appeasing segregationists in his much more recent campaign until kamala had to embarrass him publicly in a debate; so no, those views haven’t softened as evidenced by both biden’s decades long track record and a painful recent schooling by kamala; among other examples from the recent past.

also, “unsavory” is putting it extremely mildly when people were put in prison; homes permanently broken; and livelihoods were destroyed by biden et al’s actions.

todd_bonzalez ,

Womp womp, thinking about all the women who divorced their husbands because they voted for a pussy grabber. Fuck around and find out.

lolcatnip ,

It takes two people to let a vote ruin a marriage. If you know your spouse has strong feelings about politics but it’s just a game to you, then just maybe you shouldn’t play the game in a way that will make your spouse hate you.

captainlezbian ,

Also politics displays values. I don’t want to date a republican for myriad reasons like valuing low taxes over strong social services or opposing environmental regulation. Caring for those struggling and for the environment are firm moral positions of mine and I would be angry to find my wife disagrees with those.

Treczoks ,

I mean, you’ve got to be stupid to be a MAGA head. But being gay and a MAGA head you need to be terminally dumb. Amazing that such people can breathe without intellectual assistance.

MumboJumbo ,

Dumb or horribly self-loathing. Unfortunately, there are plenty parts of America that help instill that feeling.

Red_October ,

They just think he’ll surely only go after Other people, that they’ll be safe, part of the “In” group.

figjam ,

Upper middle class white folks

NatakuNox ,
@NatakuNox@lemmy.world avatar

Yup, every Republican woman is deeply into self loathing. I can’t tell you how many Republican woman I’ve heard say women can’t be leaders or it takes a man to do what’s right.

Freefall ,

Just look at all the rightwingers that head anti-pedo movements that get busted for having CP or being actual groomers. (The list is LONG)

NatakuNox ,
@NatakuNox@lemmy.world avatar

That’s just another tactic of projection. Republican woman are just mad that they aren’t men and need to justify their own subjugation by ensuring they get second place in the social hierarchy instead of questioning why there’s a hierarchy in the first place. Thinking for yourself is difficult, so being told what to do is easy. Even if that means being told to hate yourself. Hell Christianity’s first chronological story boils down to “women are the reason life sucks.”

GiddyGap ,

How anyone can be a member of the LGBTQ community and vote Republican is beyond me. Makes no sense.

Cataath ,

Imagine either hating paying taxes or hating brown people so much you’d vote for people who want to see you hanged.

ChickenLadyLovesLife ,

I work with two lesbians who are Trumpers. No surprises, they hate all non-White people with a passion. The only thing that surprised me is that they’re so racist they hate Chinese food.

Aceticon , (edited )

It’s perfectly possible having been born with characteristics that make one a “member” of a minority and still be a prejudiced asshole who discriminates against “others”. In fact the prejudiced take is to expect that’s any less likely for people from a specific minority to be prejudiced than other people.

That said, Trump and his ilk are targeting with their hate LGBT+, though mainly Transexuals and LGBT+ isn’t really A community but several.

Considering that at least some year ago there were plenty of stories of Bisexual men being discriminated against by other LGBT+ people, it’s not overly surprising the notion that some people who are Gay would thing that attacks on Transexuality are nothing to do with them personally and might even agree with it.

Unlike the reductio ad absurdum fantasy of liberal Identity Politics, people do come in all kinds no mater what group you tag them as being members of.

Regrettable_incident ,
@Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, having experienced discrimination doesn’t make someone immune from discriminating themselves. There are dumbfuck bigoted arseholes all across the spectrum of humanity.

GroundedGator ,

Punching down. It’s often why bullies are bullies, they are someone’s victim and the lesson they learn is to find someone weaker to make a victim.

If you tell someone they are less than and they believe it, they will start looking for someone less than themselves to treat the same way.

It’s inferiority from the top down. Trump talks in terms of being the best, the greatest, etc to mask his true feelings. He feels he is less than. Maybe not consciously, but it’s absolutely something that weighs on him.

kent_eh ,

having experienced discrimination doesn’t make someone immune from discriminating themselves.

It just makes them someone who lacks introspection, empathy, and the ability to recognize face eating leopards.

AA5B ,

Not the same. Of course there are dumbfuck bigoted assholes who fit somewhere in the queer spectrum. It’s the dumbfuck bigoted assholes that appear to be marginalizing themselves, supporting bigotry against themselves and everyone like them, that seems like the bigger inconsistency here.

For example bisexual men being discriminated against by people who are NOT bisexual is at least logically consistent

Aceticon ,

Gay people discriminating against Transexuals is also logically consistent (not Moral, but certainly logical for somebody whose thinking is “As long a I am alright”).

For me a logical explanation for some people who are Gay aligning themselves with Trump and their crowd is them thinking that the prejudices of those people are against Transexuals, not Gays, and as they do not see themselves as being the same and they’re not actually pro-Equality out of Principle but simply out of “what’s in it for me”, they’re ok with discrimination against Transexuals.

AA5B ,

That’s some serious tightrope walking

pythonoob ,

I met one the other day. I was dumb founded until he told me he was a business owner in Colorado.

GiddyGap ,

Republican policies being better for business is among the biggest lies Republicans have successfully told the public.

prole ,

It’s better for billionaire corporations, not small business owners.

But if it weren’t or those damn blacks and taxes, their small town company would totally be an international corporation!

pythonoob ,

Idk much about that. He just suddenly clicked into a schema I had in my brain.

Asafum ,

Propaganda, full stop.

My cousin is one of these. The reporting on Palestine and Democrat support pushed him even more to the right because of Israel…

Thetimefarm ,

I think some people have a flawed belief that one side is always correct. The Dem party is clearly handling isreal badly so to them the Republicans must be the good side.

Klear ,

See also tankies - American government did tons of shady shit so obviously Stalin must have been a saint.

ChickenLadyLovesLife ,

My cousins are big Trumpers and their biggest reason for supporting him is his anti-immigrant stance. The kicker is that they’re half-Thai with a mother who immigrated from Thailand. They happen to look Mexican and were bullied for that growing up, but that experience didn’t exactly teach them empathy or anything.

tigeruppercut ,

I’ve got a book for you. It’s from 2002 but it still has some insight into this topic

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blinded_by_the_Right

Lemminary ,

Oh, weird, because their MAGA support is ruining other people’s lives as well but it doesn’t seem to cross their mind.

whostosay ,

That guy seems like you could explain irony to him 20 times in a row and he’d never get it.

Draegur ,

good.

choices have consequences.

no one who endorses a psychotic dictator should ever be allowed to feel comfortable in life.

MindTraveller ,

Psychosis refers to a mental state characterised by hallucinations and paranoid delusions. Are you saying Trump hears voices in his head he thinks are real?

Draegur ,

a not inaccurate description of his behaviors.

especially the paranoid delusions.

his constant professing of what “people” “say” “to him”, especially particularly absurd things that there is no evidence anyone has ever said to him, would also technically meet the definition of him hearing voices - IF he is not lying. Which, to be fair, he could be, because he lies about a lot of shit all the time.

Impossible to rule out. Looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, swims like a duck. I’m no ornithologist but heuristically speaking treating the proverbial duck-like phenomenon as though it is a duck coincides with a statistically high probability of ideal results.

MindTraveller ,

I don’t think Trump’s delusions are paranoid. In fact, he’s remarkably unbothered given the very real dangers he faces. If he suffers from delusions, I would say they’re the opposite - confident delusions.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Leopard-loving people say their leopard face-eating support is ruining their lives

psvrh , (edited )
@psvrh@lemmy.ca avatar

Apparently, Jews for Hitler are also having some trouble. They’re commiserating with the black members of the KKK and the Association of Marxist-Leninist Landlords.

frezik ,

“I’m almost anti-gay,” Dorman told The Post. “It’s an embarrassment to see this kind of behavior… I’d really invite them to go to Iran or Gaza. See what that does for you. See how fast they throw you in prison or kill you.”

“And that’s why I’m supporting a party that wants to do the same thing.”

some_guy ,

So you’re super fucking racist? (Not you, the person quoted from the article.) Ok, got it. Just wait until they do away with all the people who don’t look like you and then find out how that goes.

Irremarkable ,
@Irremarkable@fedia.io avatar

Being a complete moron ain't exclusive to straight people.

AirDevil ,

I had a friend who is gay and supported Mitt Romney back in the day. He campaigned against gays. Obama won and legalized same-sex marriage. She is now married to her wife. Reminds me of her

eldavi , (edited )

obama didn’t legalize same sex marriage; the supreme court did

AirDevil ,

Granted, you’re technically right. Support for it was certainly a large part of Obama’s campaign though. It’s unclear what the overall result would have been for Obergfell vs Hodges with an administration that would have been vitriolic to the ruling.

eldavi ,

I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage.

– barrack obama 2008 during his campaign.

AirDevil ,

Voted against DOMA and eventually repealed it. There were some weird semantics about naming nomenclature of calling it a marriage in the early 2000’s. During the primaries he gave vague answers about some religions being opposed to it but did flip from earlier statements about same-sex marriages in his earlier career

eldavi ,

Voted against DOMA and eventually repealed it.

doma was voted and enacted in 1996.

obama entered federal politics in 2008.

the supreme court invalidated doma in 2015.

doma was repealed in 2022

AirDevil ,

You’re right and I’m misremembering how it happened. I really thought DOMA was later. I’m not sure the distinction between invalidating in verse repealing it. He may have seemed more pro-LGBTQ since others were more outwardly against it.

eldavi , (edited )

I’m not sure the distinction between invalidating in verse repealing it.

in practical terms:

  • the repeal had no impact and was done by a congressional act that gave anti-lgbtq bigots legal protections for their bigotry; it was little more than political theater to make democrats seem more progressive on an issue that they chose wrongly (and cover biden’s ass) in 1996.
  • the invalidation meant that i could sponsor my life partner for citizenship, but he had already been deported years prior and he was (barely) young enough to know that he had enough time to rebuild his life with someone else and did so; while i was too old and autistic to make getting back on that horse a reality.

He may have seemed more pro-LGBTQ since others were more outwardly against it.

i suspect there’s a blind spot when it comes to democratic voters and lgbt issues; it’s assumed they’re more gay friendly unless you’re bitten by their anti-gay policies.

jpreston2005 ,

I knew a gay republican couple. They both cheated on each other constantly. They didn’t do anything pro-gay or even remotely lgbt themed. They were actively ashamed of who they were. Both from affluent families, so that makes sense. One of them got me super drunk, and then took advantage of me while his partner was out of town. These are not good people.

ByteOnBikes ,

Ah, the Hateful Gay Type. Met a few of them in my life, all Trump supporters too. Never made any damn sense to me. Like they are driven by being a bitter piece of shit.

catloaf , (edited )

Gay people are just like all other people.

Moneo ,

hehe. You’re implying gay people aren’t regular people.

lolcatnip , (edited )

I think the implication is that “angry gay” is a distinct category with traits that aren’t purely the result of being angry or being gay.

Also I think people get way too hung up on the idea that being “normal” is good, so not being normal must be bad. Since that probably can’t be fixed, I think it’s better to use the word “typical” instead of normal because it’s not so loaded.

catloaf ,

Good point. I’ve changed it.

captainlezbian ,

I get the feeling they’re just normal hateful people who happen to be gay and are angry about it and committed to making it everyone’s problem

LaunchesKayaks ,
@LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world avatar

I know two married men who are openly and claim to be happily gay, adopted 4 children, but are so pro-trump and all that crazy shit. Idk how they can be like that. As a gay woman, it’s so confusing.

GreyEyedGhost ,

As a straight guy, I’m also confused.

Viking_Hippie ,

Me as any vulnerable minority supporting Trump’s fascist project:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/9f5667f2-fd29-46f4-a988-ede751dbefd0.jpeg

collapse_already ,

“I am one of the good gays. There is no way they are sending me to Daschau.”

…

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