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Clarence Thomas takes aim at a new target: Eliminating OSHA

Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has set his sights on eliminating the Occupational Safety and Health Administration.

The Supreme Court on Tuesday announced which cases it would consider next and which it wouldn’t. Among those the court rejected was a case that challenged the authority of OSHA, which sets and enforces standards for health and safety in the workplace.

And Thomas, widely considered to be the most conservative justice on the already mostly conservative court, wasn’t happy.

In a dissent, he explained why he believed the high court should’ve taken the case: OSHA’s power, he argues, is unconstitutional.

DogPeePoo ,

Clarence Thomas is unconstitutional. By his own originalist logic, he is only 3/5 of a human and should not be married to a white woman.

Fuck Clarence Thomas.

Pacmanlives ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/e286fe04-7f35-4fea-a112-7e5ede5bb6d2.gifHe is a straight up real life Clayton Bigsby

blazeknave ,

genius.com/14874861

A puppet

asteriskeverything ,

“The agency claims authority to regulate everything from a power lawnmower’s design,” he wrote, “to the level of ‘contact between trainers and whales at SeaWorld.’”

I fail to see anything wrong with either thing like… is he just mad it is not the people who sell lawn mowers should decide what’s safe?? Please please please don’t tell me Americans are going to dip to this new level of cognitive dissonance

FireTower ,
@FireTower@lemmy.world avatar

Not speaking to policy but law, he’s probably hinting that this is a violation of the non delegation doctrine.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nondelegation_doctrine

ThePyroPython ,

Coming soon: the freedom to be maimed by corporations cutting corners on dangerous equipment design and safety equipment provision.

PriorityMotif ,
@PriorityMotif@lemmy.world avatar

Lawn darts are back on the menu boys

JayleneSlide ,

I miss lawn darts, but the ban made sense. Holy hell, people were stupid with those things.

PriorityMotif ,
@PriorityMotif@lemmy.world avatar

It’s still illegal to resell them too. I see them pop up in reseller groups from time to time.

henfredemars ,

I wonder how much money his handlers paid for that position.

WYLD_STALLYNS ,
@WYLD_STALLYNS@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

They got him cheap, the man is a bargain whore… actually, I take that back, I wouldn’t want to insult prostitutes.

jaybone ,

Probably like 100k, which is pennies to them.

queue ,
@queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I hope he finds a missing guard rail and falls to his death.

Makeitstop ,

I hope he gets on a private jet with 5 other justices and some of his billionaire buddies for a trip to some tropical resort only for the plane to get shot down through a president’s official act suddenly go down, totally unexpectedly.

chonglibloodsport ,

Bermuda Triangle!

LiveLM ,

I hear the Titanic Wreck is a lovely place to visit this time of year…

refurbishedrefurbisher ,

With our luck, it’ll happen after Trump is reelected

avidamoeba , (edited )
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

The program for rolling back hard fought union victories is going full steam ahead.

I suppose the American worker could wake up to the reality that the protection against utter abuse for no pay didn’t just appear out of thin air and that only their fellow worker can be relied upon to stick for them.

ours ,

Ah, but the police force got much better and stronger since back in those days so good look going back to protesting to get those rights back,

Plus splitting people over insane conspiracies keeps them weak and easier to control so Americans are less likely to stick together and fight the real enemy: the billionaires.

jaybone ,

They will lay off middle class American workers, then bring in H1B visa workers to replace them at half the cost, then blame immigrants for taking their jobs. Then blame border security and terrorism.

el_bhm ,

That is the plan. Clarence Thomas is owned by billioners parasites that want a feudalism system in their corporations.

rayyy ,

I suppose the American worker could wake up to the reality that the protection against utter abuse for no pay didn’t just appear out of thin air

Are you kidding? The Budweiser and Marlboro crowd will be told it is the fault of some brown people so they will double down on their hate and donations to elect a dictator who will “solve” their problems

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I assume soon we will be getting rid of the weekend and the 40-hour work week.

We’re already letting children work jobs that maim and kill them again.

friend_of_satan ,

Of course! That’s what family values are all about! Praise the lord and pass the ammunition!

DudeImMacGyver ,
@DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works avatar

Username checks out.

thefartographer ,

Boy am I gonna miss being able to easily multiply by nine

Sir_Kevin ,
@Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

That took me a second LOL Well done!

schteph ,

I don’t get it. Can you explain please?

Hobbes_Dent ,

I think it’s about losing fingers and counting strategies.

OhStopYellingAtMe ,
@OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world avatar

There’s a hand / finger trick to multiply by nine, but it only works if you have all 10 of your fingers. If OSHA is eliminated, workplace accidents which could result in finger / hand loss would increase.

state_electrician ,

Your link isn’t working, here’s another explanation: www.wikihow.com/Multiply-With-Your-Hands

It’s the first time I heard about this

Th4tGuyII ,
@Th4tGuyII@fedia.io avatar

Of course Clarence, the most openly corrupt, would be the one to dissent against the OSHA case. Clarence can go fuck himself

Asafum ,

Just remember guys, the supreme court isn’t corrupted by billionaires they just happen to only want to do things that benefit the ultra wealthy. The gifts from mega rich people to Thomas mean nothing.

ItS jUsT a cOiNcIdEnCe…

werefreeatlast ,

Yes. But I am puzzled why the Ultras asked the supremes to end abortion. If I was an Ultra, I would have legalized public sex and drugs and tent cities. How does preventing abortion help the Ultras? Anyway, that’s a piece of the puzzle that I can’t understand well yet.

Eliminating the EPA, OSHA, animal protections, all these things fall under the Ultra “I’m loving it” package.

todd_bonzalez ,

The billionaire to “devout Christian” pipeline isn’t really a secret.

nyctre ,

Most likely argument for ending abortion is that it raises natality which means more workers/consumers. And I’m guessing tying it to religious beliefs reinforces the religion as well, which most agree that it’s used to control the masses.

werefreeatlast ,

Ok! I smell the shit you’re stepping on. ( I just coined this phrase!)

A_Random_Idiot ,

Just your daily reminder that literally no one but die hard catholics gave a single fuck about abortions until, what would today be called the right wing, made it an issue after losing the fight on desegregation and the civil rights act.

It was just the next evolution of the southern strategy. Inflaming hatred against “non-traditional” women instead of blacks (though trust me, there was still plenty of inflaming hatred against blacks, to this day), which extended into hatred against non-traditional things in general, Which was great cause it oh so conveniently covered pretty much everything liberal.

nyctre ,

Oh, yeah, infighting is probably another good reason I had totally forgotten about. Give us something to fight over. You’re right.

ZombiFrancis ,

They wanted it banned. And they got it banned. They saw a chance to win, took it, and won. Simple as.

wizzor ,

Sex and drugs are already very easy to get if you are rich.

Population growth on the other hand is an almost mandatory cornerstone of capitalism. And abortions too, will remain legal for the rich.

samus12345 ,
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Besides serving the ultra wealthy, the corrupt Supremes also have a Fundamentalist Christian agenda that arose from when the GOP reached out to the religious right for votes. Ending abortion is of no benefit to the ultra wealthy.

Asafum ,

I think it’s that more people that shouldn’t have been born are born into positions that force them to accept absolutely horrible working conditions and depress wages by their accepting anything.

That an some of the ultra wealthy are extremely religious.

Krauerking ,

Well they have to believe they got their money for some reason and it’s easier to think it was a sky daddy than their actual daddy for some reason.

phoenixz ,

They eliminated abortion because the religious extremists wanted that.

The religious extremists are dumb as fuck as they learn and teach religion over science. That makes them useful gullible idiots that are easy to control. You want extremists behind you if you want to be a dictator as you can easily convince them with dumb obvious lies and they will be happy to have a scape goat group (it’s the evildemocrats fault!! Or the progressives! Or the gays! Or the brown people! Or the <insert other minority>)

Also, religious extremists are very useful when you want opponents murdered, they’ll be happy to help in the name of <insert god here>

So yeah, they have been feeding and using religious extremists for their real cause: themselves, a few wealthy and rich assholes.

afraid_of_zombies ,

The Pope wanted it gone. This is the most Catholic Supreme Court in US history and they got rid of abortion. It really doesn’t get any deeper than that.

Roberts in particular is really showing his age and is devout. It’s highly likely they threatened to withhold communion from him just like they did with Biden unless he gave in. If you really thought hell was real and you could end up going there you would be willing to do anything to avoid that fate. Including murder.

Put yourself in his perspective for a moment. He kills say a million women because they are denied lifesaving treatments. Well all those women are probably going to go to heaven anyhow, and heaven is forever. If he saves those women from death he goes to hell, the women he saved still end up going where they are going but he personally gets a time period in hell that laughs at a billion eons.

Wouldn’t you do the same? Would you really allow yourself to be tortured for fucking forever just to save people who are already saved? It makes no sense too. You might be the kinda person who would run into traffic to push a kid out of a way of a bus possibly killing yourself, but even if you were you wouldn’t just run into random traffic.

Track_Shovel ,

Just trying to bring it back to the good old days when children yearned for the mines, and men got blended up in industrial machinery.

Sweetpeaches69 ,

Speaking of good old days, I think we should bring slavery back, but only for Clarence.

1/2 /j

Snowpix ,
@Snowpix@lemmy.ca avatar

I volunteer Thomas to run a lathe and see what happens when safety regulations aren’t enforced.

TachyonTele ,

A lathe would straighten him out, he wouldn’t be caught dead near one.

dellish ,

But hopefully he’ll be caught dead in one.

TachyonTele ,

I don’t agree with wishing death on anyone.

Years of horrible torture is a much worse experience for them.

phoenixz ,

is unconstitutional

At this point I’m seeing a pattern. Any time someone good has to be removed so that pure evil shit can take it’s place, the argument almost always includes at least “is unconstitutional”

Guys, GUYS! Your constitution… Sucks. Same as your founding fathers. The US constitution is a document that was cool a few hundred years ago, but it is heavily outdated and at this point an actual new one really wouldn’t be a bad idea. Yeah yeah, the original document doesn’t suck, at least not in historic context, and definitely should be kept in a museum but stop effin quoting the damn thing as it it were Gods personao commandments. Get a new constitution for the 21st century.

Your founding fathers were okay, of course, but stop treating them as if they were infallible gods. They weren’t. Im sure that for their time they were super smart and their ideas revolutionary, but that was centuries ago and a lot of their ideas no longer fly.

The right to bear arms (insert joke about bear arms) was written when an arm was a musket, that would take (a) minute(s) to load a single bullet that then could barely hit a target and had the penetration power of my penis. Now we have AR15’s for children who can murder double digits other children through multiple walls within double digit seconds and basically half the country thinks this is perfectly fine and quotes that two hundred year old line as the infallible reason why.

It’s okay. Your constitution WAS great hundreds of years ago and yeah, your founding fathers WERE awesome. They both live two hundred years away from the situation we face today. The world changed. The US changed. Science changed. Everything changed and got updated. Your constitution got a few updates but at this point could use a rewrite. You know, something healthy to start over fresh.

DudeImMacGyver ,
@DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works avatar

Rewriting the constitution is part of their plan but I very much doubt the changes they want to make are good for anyone but them.

afraid_of_zombies ,

Ok your rant over? Good. If it was rewritten today it would be civilization ending levels of disaster. And you know what? OSHA is constitutional.

phoenixz ,

it would be … Disaster

Why? Are we no longer capable of being smart? Did the leaded gasoline do its job too good?

Your current constitution sucks as a legal document, it should be in a museum. It was written well over 200 years ago, and I’m site there are some good basic ideas in there but most of the time its abused to death to remove rights.

Make something new based off our current knowledge. Make it make sense.

Prohibit guns for most people as by now its goddamn clear that people can’t be responsible enough to handle them freely

Everyone is the same, outlaw any and all discrimination on gender, skin color, culture, etc.

Make it very clear that religion and state are absolute separate and are not allowed to touch eachother. If it were up to me (and unfortunately it isn’t), religion as a whole would be banned because this “i failed to understand santa Claus isn’t real when I was 5 years old but my beliefs must be protected and my god wants to kill all the Jews” bullshit has given the world nothing but wars and hatred. Grow up.

afraid_of_zombies ,

Fine you convinced me. Call a state constitutional thing. Watch how fast the new document outlaws abortion, makes the US an officially Christian nation, and shores up the electoral system such that no Democrat could ever win.

What you aren’t looking at is that we can amend the document right now. Look at the very last purposed changes. End of birth naturalization and ban on gay marriage. You want that?

AdrianTheFrog ,
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Tons of the reasons given for why congress can do things don’t really make sense, like civil rights amendments were defended with the reasoning that congress can regulate interstate commerce, and segregation affects interstate commerce. IMO that doesn’t make sense, but everyone goes along with it because these regulations are obviously good. If we had a good constitution, we wouldn’t need to make these weird excuses to do things that are clearly necessary for the public wellbeing, but unfortunately we don’t, so we have to make do and have any decision we make be randomly struck down by the courts when they decide they don’t like it anymore.

TurtleJoe ,
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I mean, the big philosophical divide between liberal and conservative judges is usually whether or not the constitution is a “living” document. That is, whether it can be interpreted through a modern lens, or if laws must be strictly limited by what is exactly written in the document.

I would argue that it’s easily the former, since, one, they explicitly allow amendments to the Constitution, and, two, there is a session of the Bill of Rights where they basically say, “we can’t possibly list all the rights that people are entitled to. This list is by no means comprehensive, and just because something isn’t in here, it doesn’t mean we’ve left it out on purpose.”

I agree that the constitution is very flawed, and that we would probably be better off without it, but one thing they were very clear on: no kings. The Trump immunity ruling was not only legal nonsense, it was clearly not an originalist interpretation (what the conservatives claim to be.)

When you take into account all of the rulings that this current court has made, it’s quite clear that they just start with the conclusion that they want, and reason backwards to get the justification. Once you’re at that point, I’m not sure that it really matters what your legal system is based on; they’re just doing make-em-ups anyway.

obviouspornalt ,

The conservatives agree with you and want to call for a new constitutional convention so that they have an opportunity to work in the project 2025 agenda directly into a new draft of the Constitution.

An important part of controlling state legislatures is to be able to get enough states to first call for the constitutional convention and then to control it. That’s the most effective route to ensuring that the white, Christian, business first agenda is permanently enforced

Clinicallydepressedpoochie , (edited )

Working in the chemical industry, this statement is horrifying.

Take a look for yourself:

m.youtube.com/user/USCSB

A fucking judge who sits on his ass all day, “interpreting” the constitution like he’s some fucking oracle, wouldn’t even begin to understand.

t_chalco ,

I had no idea of this entity, but I work with enough similarly, highly nuanced public professionals that I recognize that the rapid and blind “immediately destroy all gubberment” approach will have widespread oh-holy-fuck consequenes if not just for the extensive brain vacuum potentially left in the wake of this type of growing mentality. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and perspective.

Silentiea ,
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I mean, do we not remember when companies were literally locking employees into buildings as they come down in a raging inferno?

More than once?

TachyonTele ,

I did Asbestos removal for awhile years ago. I cannot imagine not having OSHA. The amount of crap companies get away with with OSHA around is already absurd.

Jiggle_Physics ,

I wanted to post this channel for a long list of reason, broken down in a forensic manner, as to why this is a bad idea, glad others were here, and thinking the same.

Natanael ,

If they believe congress shouldn’t have the authority to delegate authority so broad then the way fix isn’t to eliminate the delegation but to require that congress reviews the regulatory agencies to see if they’re acting as according to their intent (yes there’s risk of abuse for this too, like endless micromanaging, etc, this is just to defuse the constitutionality argument)

Just read a bunch of audit results and discuss relevant court cases involving the varies agencies in front of congress and let them rubberstamp it

Krauerking ,

Oh great. An old man who simply is getting rid of protections for average people because all he hears is how it hurts the profit margins of his good friends the uber wealthy.

We really are just heading to a split society of no class mobility and no real consideration of the poor from the rich.

And yet they wonder why the country is collapsing and people don’t really want to have kids anymore.

Cosmicomical ,

They won’t stop. By 2025 they will reinstate the crime of heresy. Mark my words.

MilitantAtheist ,

I believe you

BigMacHole ,

It’s a good thing NOBODY WHO WOULD POSSIBLY BENEFIT FROM THIS has given Thomas Gifts Bribes or ANYTHING to sway his Judgement!

Tower ,

✨ gratuities ✨

TastyWheat ,

Yeah they’re okay, just sometimes, as a little treat.

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