You guys are failing to see that this was a simple misunderstanding.
Musk was told he needed to pay severance to all the ex employees, but he was confused why he was paying severance to "X employees" if they were still employed, so he simply didn't.
Howell's ruling against Giuliani was by a default judgment, as the judge found that he had failed to comply with a number of subpoenas, particularly those pertaining to the lawsuit's discovery phase.
Friendly reminder that the whole theory behind default judgements, is that the court has to assume you did it to hide something at least as bad as what you’re accused of.
Or maybe he’s just a senile wacko who’s had his ego stroked way too much in his life. 9/11
Remember that he’s evil, not stupid, and he’s capable of making decisions that serve his interests. If he just flat out defied a subpoena it’s because the consequences of complying with the subpoena would have been worse.
Wasnt until recently that became an objectively bad idea. I honestly think that if he didn’t loudly and purposely fumble COVID we’d already have president-for-life Trump
I haven’t yet seen an article where a reporter totals up the numbers and associated dollar amounts associated with Musk’s mismanagement. In terms of general classes - and I’m just going off the top of my head here - we’re looking at (including only the twitter related ones):
Failure to pay agreed upon payouts for fired employees
Age discriminatory termination lawsuits
Violation of employment contracts re: return to work and other conditions
Failure to pay rents and infrastructure fees
Failure to moderate content according to legally required regulations
Allocation of TSLA employees to work at Twitter, a different company with different shareholders, thus robbing Peter to pay Paul on investors’ dimes
There were also potential suits over mass terminations contrary to state and national laws, but I haven’t heard as much about those recently.
In the event that Twitter files for bankruptcy, would it partially shield them from all that debt? Yeah, it’s a dirty play and would totally expect Elon to do it if he could.
its so much worse than just that. there are so many financial mechanisms to avoid liability its not even funny. most of the unwashed are unfamiliar with them because they are specifically written to keep rich people rich.
money flows to the top, accountability... not so much. and that is 100% the design.
the twist here is a callous, idiotic billionaire using this lack of responsibility for his own enjoyment. he will never, ever personally suffer for any of the harm caused to all humans affected by his terrible business practices. he is shielded by money, or what we call money these days.
twitter will cost him billions in personal funds when it goes under, and it will not affect him at all.
I promise I’m fun at parties, but you’re a decade late to that request. Again, I’m not defending Totally A Human Ted Cruz, just pointing out the facts.
Interesting. I figured with all the fresh anti-nazism immediately after WW2 the US would have made some kind of law against this kind of thing considering just how much people at the time disliked Nazis. Maybe they just thought it wouldn’t happen in the US later on? Or the cold war threat made everyone reprioritize perhaps?
I’m speaking and thinking from a historical lense regardless of modern politics if that wasn’t clear
Nah from what I know of history and I could be wrong about some details - there was a significant portion of our population that were nazi sympathizers among other things - I figure that might be a big reason why it was never truly dealt with
I believe most States in the US draw the line at "(directly) inciting violence" or "creating a disaster" (eg. shouting "Fire!" In a crowded theatre).
For whatever reasons, shouting "white power" and "Jews will not replace us" while waving swastika flags is not considered "inciting violence" in the US, even though the implications are very clear to everyone. This has allowed Nazis to march in the streets for decades in the US.
The reason is cops and judges agree with those reasons.
Waving nazi flags and using their slogans should be treated as a threat at all times. There is no possible way that anything nazi is not implied violence.
If anyone reading this votes Democrat and stands firm in support of gun control, that Nazi piece of shit and his buddies will continue to arm up ignoring the law because said cops are on their sides and will never prosecute them; you might as well lay down and let them fuck you over until you die because you are incapable or too cowardly to arm yourself to protect your community through deterrence.
I’m not implying anything. I’m directly suggesting you are a sociopath, based upon your comments in this post. If your answer to a social/political issue is “GUNz!” you’re more than a little mentally askew.
I agree, but I wanted to stick to the less disputed parts of the answer. I simply can't do justice to the topic of US support for Nazi ideology and its extensive history, even though it is a topic well worth researching. Depressing but important, like many other things in this world.
At this point I just recommend listening to The War on Everyone audiobook by Robert Evans. It does a pretty great job of spelling out this countries history with fascism
To me it always seemed weird how saying “we should eradicate jews by our own hand” or “we should kill this jew” would probably not be okay because of inciting violence, but saying “we should eradicate jews… Through the law/state” instead is perfectly acceptable and not inciting violence.
Is one level of indirection really enough to make it okay? The end result is the same.
This is also why such free speech has problems. If you’re the one spewing that shit it’s all fine and dandy for you, but if you’re the targeted minority what can you do, exactly? Certainly you cannot legally physically defend yourself! You’re just destined to have to defend your literal existence with speech, like jeez. It’s so lopsided.
It doesn't make sense when you look at it through the lens of "violence is a bad thing", which is what we're generally led to believe it is about. It does make sense when you look at it through the lens of "xenophobia personally benefits/ed me and my other friends currently in power and I would like to keep it that way but I don't want to do the dirty work myself".
Unfortunately most places have a history of the people in power exploiting other groups of people for their benefit, and this is just one way in which it manifests. It feels weird because we know it isn't congruent with what we're taught about how people in a society should behave.
Is being an open nazi and rallying for hate speech legal?
Yes. Ostensibly because of the first amendment, but mostly because cops won’t arrest their off-duty coworkers for doing shit they wholeheartedly agree with.
Is being an open nazi and rallying for hate speech legal?
Yes. Any law making that illegal would be unconstitutional. They’re assholes, but until they do or say something that is part of commiting a crime they still have a right to free speech.
… X is facing some 2,200 arbitration cases filed by ex-employees, which come with $3.5 million in required fees-an amount that doesn’t even include the actual severance owed to those Musk let go.
The way the comments read, they were asking if the amount that was given ($3.5mm) was for severance. I am pointing out that it is not, that it’s for fees only.
Well, minimum 2 months per employee plus the 4 weeks. Let’s figure an average salary of $80k. 6000 employees with an average tenure of 4 years. Let’s go ahead and round that to 3 months salary. So he’s paying the equivalent of 1500 employee’s average salary. That works out to about $120m.
I think my salary estimate is low there, and I have no idea what the tenure of the employees would be. Either way, not a small sum for a company that’s barely treading water.
Eh, despite that incident, by his family’s standards Harry’s not particularly Nazi-ish at all; his great-great-uncle literally exchanged Nazi salutes with Hitler.
Regardless of political leanings, if one of the steps in your master plan is “receive pardon from glorious leader once they return to power”, you might want to rethink what you’re about to do.
People in the freaken gulags were waiting for Stalin to pardon them. No one, including myself, wants to accept the existence they almost certainly have and will have hope for saviour. Even if it is the person who put them there.
He’s been an alcoholic for awhile, I he was doing good and then his son died and he fell off the wagon a few years later, I don’t really think he’s been in the right state of mind since
In six months, I lost my dog, grandma, mom, and cat. I can tell you 5 years since and I’ve never given a Nazi salute. Although I went from a 4.0 student to 3.5 my last two quarters of college while I was going through that.
I'm a nurse and I don't expect much from anyone with end stage liver failure. They start getting encephalopathic and acting nuts. Then I need to give them lactulose and they poop everywhere.
Nnnnoooo, there’s sympathy for people who commit suicide. There is no sympathy for Nazis. I’ve known that dealt with extreme depression and didn’t make it but I can tell you they didn’t throw nazi salutes during their long fight.
Once again, that line of thinking “I faced this and I never…” is the EXACT same line of thinking people use against suicide victims.
People are responsible for their actions. I’m just advising against the anti-empathy line of thinking where people can’t even imagine that others’ experiences are different. Because usually I hear it when people put down suicide victims.
well, he has literally been an alcoholic for decades and at this point had heart issues and Wernicke encephalopathy, he was literally not all there anymore.
Also as others have said, your personal experience is just that, your personal experience. It doesn’t apply to everyone. His story is an unfortunate one, and it’s clear that before he succumbed to his disease that lead to more illness he was an awesome, fun loving, inclusive dude.
Wasnt Smash Mouth also one of those vehemently anti-vaxxer bands that played at that motorcycle rally and was refusing covid mandates during lockdowns and shit?
Despite the memes using his music a lot, from what I understand the band has been pretty shitty for a long time.
i'm not gonna be surprised to find out that the front man for a band calling itself Smash Mouth is a fan of solving things with violence.. a.k.a. a fascist.. and apparently he died from being a chronic selfish asshole..
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