You can argue that just about anything has some benefit to someone. Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger and all
But you know having a better quality of life with more opportunities will exponentially benefit you more than any of that shit. On top of you know, having the actual ability to do something that you would actually enjoy doing with your skillset.
All this to say that trying to push the idea that being a slave wasn't all bad has absolutely no beneficial views period.
Jason Aldean is also the one who sang that “transgender people is not a real ontological category” — which, if you know biology and you know history, is an exact quote from the Nazis, who built the genocide of millions out of the notion of “Entarte” — usually translated to English as “Degenerate” but which literally translates as “without ontological category”.
He openly called for genocide of transgender people. Conservatives ate it up.
He and his record label and fans are all a part of a violent extremist hate group.
I’ve read the lyrics and listened to the song. What are you on about? Is it not enough to merely recognize the song (and the video’s setting and content!?) as racist? Are the dog whistles so lowkey that you have to make shit up?
I’m guessing Jason Aldean has never pronounced the word “ontological” or “entarte”, let alone sang it. Just how smart are you saying this guy is?
It looks like it was some doucher from the Daily Wire during a speech at CPAC, but it was in response to Aldean’s comment of literally “eradicating transgenderism.”
Idk, close enough. If it walks like a nazi and talks like a nazi, then it’s probably a nazi.
you can’t say that! something something the left always accuses me of being a Nazi for disagreeing with them, all I want to do is lynch N******, T*********, and F***!
did I forget anything of the new standard fascist playbook?
Just curious, do you feel triggered by Aldean being called out because you like bigotry, or do you just have really shitty taste in music and the delusion that your favorite cuntry star must be a good person?
What in the world on you on about? Never heard his name until this shit came up. The only country I listen to is much older stuff, I have no awareness of modern country, at all.
We’re talking about an in-your-face racist song, and now suddenly it’s about trans folks?! The trans community is trod upon quite well enough with finding digs on them where it doesn’t exist.
You’re hell bent on insisting that I am. Been here 1 solid day. Have a look at my comment history. Come back and tell me I’m a racist, conservative, jack-booted thug.
They’re right, though. If you search for “Aldean ontological” the only result you’ll get with both words is this very thread. I don’t see anything fascist about correcting a factual error.
My point was that some people, somehow, don’t find the despicable nature of the song/video to be BROAD enough. They gotta get their little group in on the offense.
“I’m a liberal gun owner (<-true) and I feel targeted! I’m a victim too!”
It was Michael Knowles of the Daily Wire that said “transgender people is not a real ontological category.” While I could see Aldean agreeing with that, I can’t seem to find it in any of his songs.
Are you suggesting that when John Fogerty wrote that song in 1969 he wasn’t opposed to spoiled rich folk? That’s one perspective, but he said the exact opposite…
You’d hear about the son of this senator or that congressman who was given a deferment from the military or a choice position in the military. They seemed privileged and whether they liked it or not, these people were symbolic in the sense that they weren’t being touched by what their parents were doing. They weren’t being affected like the rest of us.
In point of fact, when Fogerty found out that Trump was using his song, he issued a cease and desist order.
I always like to point out that when congress banned the transatlantic slave trade in 1808, it didn't stop the desire of slaveholders for new slaves.
Enslaved women were used as brood mares until they physically could not produce more children. Then some of those women were subjected to medical experimentation (without painkillers) to repair the damage caused by pregnancies either too frequent or too early.
The population of enslaved black people quadrupled in the 50 years after the transatlantic slave trade was banned. White slave owners would often rape their enslaved women, and then sell off the children for profit. And could get more profit, because the children had lighter skin.
Oh, and that ban on the transatlantic slave trade? That was very easy to get around. Jim Bowie, as an example, used to smuggle slaves from French pirate slaver traders into the US through the swamps of Louisiana. Then he moved to Texas as part of a plan to turn it into a slave holding nation. (Mexico had actually banned slavery)
Jim Bowie, died at the Alamo, likely in bed shitting himself from cholera. Couldn't have happened to a more deserving sort.
Wasn’t the Alamo almost entirely about slavery too? As in a blight on our past that has been misconstrued and blatantly lied about to become something we’re taught to be proud of?
Yeah, the entire Texas independence movement was white slaver owners wanting to own slaves in Texas. Which was actually part of Mexico, and had banned slavery in Texas a few years prior, and the white colonist slave owners were having none of it.
There were several rebellions against Santa Anna at the time, Texas was the only "success". All because of the white slave owners pumping a lot of money into the fight.
They don’t need “incentive”. All they need is complete and utter loss of hope and humanity so that they eventually realize they should just “make the best of it”.
That or the threat of beatings.
There was a picture of a Congolese man who was forced to work on a Dutch rubber plantation with his entire family. This man was staring at the severed hand of his 5 year old daughter. She lost her hand because she failed to meet her quota. If that man suddenly became the most productive slave on the plantation… was that a good thing? Or was he forced into an inhumane situation that is absolutely inexcusable?
Desantis is vying for political points that he can use nationally. He and his campaign think it'll score them points that might help them prove to be more "Trumpy" than other candidates.
Honestly, while it wouldn't totally surprise me to have Republicans sink to an even lower low... I'm just not sure that there's a large contingent of national voters for who "actually slavery was pretty great for black people" is an important issues or a winning message.
I feel like it's ultimately suburban voters who tip the scale in a general election, and defending slavery isn't probably the main issue on their mind. And for the GOP primary, there's no chance that he pulls anything meaningful away from the Trump cult with this shit. It just seems so stupid.
It’s all about pushing the needle and normalizing this shit. They can do whatever they want in Florida so they test drive their facist ideologies there.
I don’t think Desantis is being tooled as a viable candidate, just a useful ton of dead weight to push the scales further right.
I don’t think this, in particular, is about the campaign. It’s about ideology. I don’t think DeSantis is a grifter that only cares about getting elected or getting people to like him (unlike Trump). I think he is an actual pseudo-fascist. He is implementing all these changes to reshape Florida in his image. In this example, his goal is to have kids to grow up thinking all the poor black people are poor because they are not good workers or people, which is probably what he believes, or worse.
Some on the right defended DeSantis, including Fox News host Jesse Watters.
“No one is arguing slaves benefited from slavery,” Watters said Friday on his prime time show. “No one is saying that. It’s not true. They are teaching how Black people develop skills during slavery in some instances that can be applied for their own personal benefit.”
Funny, that's actually the argument most often heard in Germany when people want to bring back mandatory military/civil service. Yes, it's slavery, but it'll teach you stuff!
What if you’re not white and vote for him, or if you’re white and not a SuPrEmAcIsT? I’m not voting for him but I am curious on where the answer stands with these two scenarios.
If you watch someone piss in a milk carton and then offer you a bowl of cereal the next morning, and you accept, it’s because you’re either into it or really, really out of it.
If you saw a house burning down and you did nothing to stop the flames, wouldn’t you say that that person wanted the house to burn down?
If you are not actively against white supremacists, you are allowing them to spread and flourish. It’s like a weed. If you don’t pull it, it’s going to take over your beds.
why the fuck are you voting for someone who made his own private militarized police force to protect his interests like a stereotypical cold war era dictator
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