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BilboBargains ,

Cause of death heatstroke with diabeetus and obesity.

eatisaiy ,

impressive, good job

MystikIncarnate ,

I just want to say that graphs like this should be contrasted with the number of deaths from extreme cold. I know Arizona probably doesn’t have the numbers of say, Alaska, but it’s worthy of note to contrast the two.

I’d also point out that it is far easier for an individual to protect themselves against the rigors of cold than it is for heat; in the cold, with warm clothing, you can keep yourself warm, while the environment is very cold; fire is relatively easy to make, even if you have little more than sticks, and thus getting warm or keeping yourself warm is by and large easier to accomplish than staying cold.

When you’re in an extremely hot environment, it’s not like you can make yourself more naked than naked. You need some outside influence to keep you cool, like a swamp cooler, a misting sprayer, a cool body of water (like a river or lake), or some kind of man-made cooling device like an Air Conditioner, in a relatively sealed enclosure (which relies on consistent access to power to run it). most of these are either inaccessible to people in a city or built-up area; sure, there are fixtures, like fountains that contain water, usually not enough to keep them from heating up, and usually the water is recycled, so the heat stays with the water. all other water access is typically restricted to water lines, which usually someone is paying for, and nobody wants to pay to keep random people cool when they don’t have to. All man-made (air conditioner) type cooling is generally access restricted to either workplaces, homes, or businesses/storefronts, where the expectation is that you’ll be spending money there (which not everyone has).

I’m just saying, that the limiting factor to reducing death by extreme heat, is a far larger one, than death by extreme cold, where you should only need to hand out sweaters, gloves/mittens, jackets, blankets, etc, to keep people from dying from it. There’s far-end extreme cold that almost nothing will save you from short of a heated structure, but generally, places that are inhabited by people who don’t have access to safe heat and cooling (like a home), are more temperate than that extreme of cold… not exactly too many homeless people walking around the arctic or Antarctic circles…

Neither is good, but both seem inevitable; regardless we should be doing all we can to help to ensure the survival of everyone, as a species. Whether that’s saving them from the heat, the cold, from starvation or dehydration, we should be helping in any way we are able to.

sukhmel ,

To be honest, I lost track of what was your point except for the fact that we need to pair the graph with one about extreme cold deaths

pinkdrunkenelephants ,

They’re just going to let the homeless die in the streets, aren’t they? 😑

13esq ,

They always were

AngryBear ,

Ironically the oil companies back in the 60’s, did an extensive research into what exactly would happen to the climate and ecology etc, if they kept drilling for and using fossil fuel etc. It’s so accurate that even todays models aren’t that good (I find that fact odd), but bottomline, they knew… they knew, but kept on doing it anyway.

azthec ,

This sounds interesting. Do you have sources for these studies and models?

SeaJ ,

They are likely referring to Exxon’s research. I think they started research in the 70s which spread the earth would warm with an increase in CO2. They did quite a few studies (that they kept internal) and a good chunk of them were as good of not better than NASA’s climate models. They are not as good as our current models though. But considering they have denied CO2 linked climate change despite their own research showing it for the past 50+ years, they can go fuck themselves.

theguardian.com/…/exxon-climate-change-global-war…

AngryBear ,

nos.nl/…/2373196-shell-wist-al-in-1968-dat-gebrui…

A Dutch site, but with a bit of translation applied it should be perfectly readable from Dutch to English. Also you are not bombarded with ads unlike the original the guardian link, they link to that article and so it’s available if preferred.

azthec ,

Leuk, dank je

Fedizen ,

Climate change is just getting started and people should start suing cities and design firms for failing to include shade requirements in their standards and for making roads too wide to properly shade

Where natural shade can’t be sustained artificial shade needs to be provided.

The single family house on a grass lawn is such a stupid idea in many places

LearysFlyingSaucer ,

I wish, but I just know the segregationist city planners in my town will just lay down more asphalt and gated suburbs. We don’t even have sidewalks or crosswalks even though there’s people walking/biking everywhere. They intentionally make our towns unlivable.

md5crypto ,

Arizonans just need to learn to hop better. 😀 👍

milkjug ,
@milkjug@lemmy.world avatar

Kids nowadays are so fragile with your participation trophies and dying from touching the ground. In my day, we pull up our bootstraps and head for the coal mines, then lie down on asphalt to nap like Real Men™ do.

/s if it isn’t blatantly obvious.

riodoro1 ,
  1. Build cities in the desert
  2. Heat up climate
  3. ???
  4. Oh god what have I done
LearysFlyingSaucer ,

A few years of never going outside before the power infrastructure finally overloads and no more air conditioning.

talldangry ,

Letting the days go by!
Let the water all dry up
Letting the days go by!
Water flowing underground?!
Into the alfalfa, until the money’s gone
Once in a lifetime! Lake Mead’s looking more like ground.

Sterile_Technique ,
@Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

Wake me up when it’s guillotine day.

md5crypto ,

Day of the rope? The guillotine is too nice.

Tb0n3 ,

That has a different connotation. You might want to look where it came from.

www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/day-rope

pinkdrunkenelephants ,

Nah, fuck them both. Put the oil execs outside in the heat and let them roast.

SeaJ ,

Are you seriously referencing the neo Nazi Turner Diaries?

Tb0n3 ,

How much if that is due to surging populations?

voidMainVoid ,

What would that have to do with heat?

mayo ,
@mayo@lemmy.world avatar

Someone else brought it up, but the idea that this is a “common” incident during summer and if the population has increased 30% then you’d expect some correlation with the number of incidents.

Tb0n3 ,

Because it’s a graph of incidents and not a per capita representation.

HunterBidensLapDog ,
@HunterBidensLapDog@infosec.pub avatar

If only we had some kind of warning?!? If only there was something we could do about it?!?

Dagnet ,

I tried praying, don’t look at me I did my part

voidMainVoid ,

I did both thoughts and prayers.

Jeanschyso ,

You forgot the Thoughts!!

Rootiest ,
@Rootiest@lemmy.world avatar

Typical

Agent641 ,

But my end of the boat is perfectly dry!

doctorplasmatron ,
@doctorplasmatron@lemmy.ca avatar

dr. david suzuki pours himself another scotch and sighs.

johnnixon ,

Is there a source that doesn’t require me log into Twitter?

darkmatter ,

Sir, this is a screenshot

mayo ,
@mayo@lemmy.world avatar

Mr. Nixon may want to sneak into Twitter and see it for himself

LambdaDuck ,

the screenshot says “Financial Times” at the bottom left and “Source: FT analysis of CDC WONDER” in the bottom right

michel ,
@michel@lemmy.ml avatar

Here you are:

archive.is/amobN

Courtesy of this Mastodon toot

mastodon.social/

johnnixon ,

Thanks. Some screenshot of a tweet isn’t a source, but what you posted was.

d4rknusw1ld ,

Hydrate!

wazoobonkerbrain ,

Once the wet bulb temperature gets too high then conditions become lethal no matter how much you drink. This is happening more often.

d4rknusw1ld ,

Yeah I know. Can’t regulate sweating at that point and the body will start to frog boil. Hydrate was just a term drill sergeants would tell us when it was hot as hell. Someone military probably understood the reference.

wanderingmagus ,

I did, I understood the reference! Hooyah PT!

Liv2themax ,

Nature solving the core problem: overpopulation.

Jeanschyso ,

I don’t think overpopulation is what’s causing the issue here

mayo ,
@mayo@lemmy.world avatar

Hardcore perspective

DrNeurohax ,
@DrNeurohax@kbin.social avatar

Just thought I'd add this report from the AZ health department. This breaks down the factors MUCH better and comes to a similar, but not quite as extreme, conclusion. Only part is normalized for population, but it gives an idea of how to scale the numbers.

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