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echo , in Google pulls the plug on uBlock Origin, leaving over 30 million Chrome users susceptible to intrusive ads

uBlock Origin Lite, which is Manifest V3 compliant but doesn’t boast the original version’s comprehensive ad-blocking features.

Then what is the purpose/value of it?

Quill7513 ,

Its able to block some ads. However, from a security perspective this basically means google chrome is no longer a web browser that should be used in a professional setting, let alone for your private and personal work

echo ,

I’ll let corporate worry about corporate… I don’t want the ads at home.

Quill7513 ,

100% don’t use it at home. I’m saying if you wouldn’t even use it at work (and you seriously shouldn’t anymore, its a total liability) you for sure shouldn’t use it at home

amorpheus ,

It’s not as comprehensive, but it still blocks ads. Personally, I’ve not noticed a difference. If you are a power user with custom rules and third party lists then your experience will vary.

echo ,

I went ahead and switched to Firefox which I can also use on my phone and now block ads there, too.

madjo , in Liz Truss leaves stage in Beccles as 'lettuce' banner unfurls

I prefer Liv Struss anyway

TransplantedSconie , in Google pulls the plug on uBlock Origin, leaving over 30 million Chrome users susceptible to intrusive ads

Firefox is the bomb.

perviouslyiner ,

It is… revolutionary.

2001aCentenaryofFederation ,

see also: librewolf

parpol ,

If only there was a librewolf mobile…

DaddleDew ,

Fennec is a pace in the right direction for that

dukatos ,

Mull is better…

JetpackJackson ,

Mull is the closest

Mwa ,
@Mwa@thelemmy.club avatar

iceraven is nice to

JetpackJackson ,

Never used it, I thought it was unmaintained but I guess I was wrong

fine_sandy_bottom ,
circuscritic , (edited )

I’m not saying to never use Firefox Android forks, but the reality is that Chromium forks are significantly more secure on Android, such as Mulch (same dev as Mull) and Chromite (Bromite fork).

Again, I am talking security, not privacy, and specifically for Android.

Here is a good write up on the topic from the developer of the Mull and Mulch browsers:

divestos.org/pages/browsers

For desktop there are a lot of good Firefox forks, such as Mullvad’s Browser, Librewolf, & Waterfox. If a website needs Chrome to work, I just use Vivaldi or Ungoogled Chromium.

Edit: I’ve made this point a few times, and always with lots of downvotes, just kind of funny. Especially when I provided a technical write-up from the developer of a security focused distro (DivestOS) as well as two popular security focused Android browsers (Mull and Mulch), but hey, maybe you all know better than he does.

JohnDClay ,

YouTube isn’t playing on Firefox with Ublock for me either. I’ll need to go through and reinstall my extensions, but I couldn’t find the root cause so far, I’d just been using chrome with ublock for YouTube and Firefox for everything else.

parpol ,

Use a redirect plugin to open all YouTube links in invidious.

On android, GrayJay is the best app for not only YouTube but all video and streaming platforms.

JohnDClay ,

But that wouldn’t have comments or updating recommendations, right?

JohnDClay ,

As for grey jay, I haven’t had time to compile it yet. ReVanced is working well for me.

Zier ,
@Zier@fedia.io avatar

Try NewPipe or a fork of that for YouTube on Android.

JohnDClay ,

It doesn’t have recommendations or ability to comment does it? And ReVanced is still working for me on Android.

Mog_fanatic ,

Saaaaame for me on PC. Such a bummer.

Frellwit ,

Make sure jnn-pa.googleapis.com isn’t blocked anywhere in your network. It may perhaps be blocked in a filter list you have activated in uBO, DNS, VPN, Firewall, anti-virus, Firefox enhanced tracking protection, etc.

Sir_Kevin ,
@Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

FreeTube is available for Windows and Android. It has SponsorBlock built in as well.

ogmios ,
@ogmios@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yea, I’m just waiting for the bomb to go off when Mozilla inevitably ends up following Google’s example.

Lemminary ,

Yep, I’m watching intently with the shit they’ve been doing.

sheogorath ,

Thankfully, Firefox is open-source, so we can just use one of the forks, or perhaps Ladybird will be ready for general release by that time.

ngwoo ,

Firefox already adopted manifest V3 but specifically kept the features needed for adblockers

friend_of_satan , in Google pulls the plug on uBlock Origin, leaving over 30 million Chrome users susceptible to intrusive ads

I’d just like to reassure everybody that you can quit using Google Chrome. I switched to Firefox a year ago. You can switch to something else too. Give it a try.

Wait, I don’t need to nudge anybody. After all the ads start invading their browsing experience I doubt anybody will need much prodding.

echo ,

Yep… when ublock quits working for me on Chrome then I will migrate.

Maestro ,

Why wait? Migrate now. There's even Firefox for mobile with ublock

chazwhiz ,
@chazwhiz@lemmy.world avatar

There is?

arin ,

Yes my main mobile browser

TachyonTele ,

Same here. Haven’t seen an ad in I don’t know how long.

chazwhiz ,
@chazwhiz@lemmy.world avatar

That doesn’t really answer my question. How does one get ublock origin on mobile?

RampageDon ,

You use Firefox as your mobile browser

ArgentRaven ,

And to add to that, set all your programs and links to open in Firefox by default, instead of the YouTube app, etc. then you’re blocking ads just like a desktop on every site you visit.

Sir_Kevin ,
@Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Why stop there? uninstall the youtube app. It’s garbage. FreeTube has an Android fork now too.

catloaf ,

Same as on desktop. You go to the Mozilla extension site or the author’s site and click add.

JohnSwanFromTheLough ,

There’s an extensions menu in the firefox app, uBlock is listed as one of the recommend ones, all you have to do is click the plus sign to add it.

Hobbes ,

Not in mobile

pipe01 ,

Yes in mobile

Makhno ,

Yes there is lol

ripcord ,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

Everyone is leaving out that this is Android only.

TachyonTele ,

That’s what you get for using an apple product.

ripcord ,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

It’s definitely one of the reasons I left.

On the other hand, Google fucking SUCKS and I expect Apple to be doing way less questionable-to-evil stuff with my data.

CommanderCloon ,

That’s because “firefox” (or “chrome” too) on apple products is just a reskin of Safari. Apple does not allow 3rd party browser engines in its app store.

That’s because 3rd party browser engines might not suck ass, which would allow OWA apps in your browser whcih would circumvent Apple’s 30% cut on everything. So they kneecap their own browser and don’t allow any other browser on their devices.

oddsys ,

Yes, in mobile Firefox.

veloxization ,
@veloxization@yiffit.net avatar

This is Fennec, a fork of Firefox for mobile, though mobile Firefox has this same menu. c: Extensions are very much supported on mobile and it’s great.

Though I should add: I’m not an iOS user, so the story is likely to be different there, Apple being Apple and whatnot.

A screenshot from an Android phone, showing Fennec, a Firefox fork, listing extensions, including uBlock Origin.

Maestro ,

Yes. You can install extensions on firefox mobile just like you can on the desktop version. IIRC it's the only mobile browser that does this.

pennomi ,

Only on Firefox Android.

As far as I know, Safari is the only browser with Adblock on iOS.

harsh3466 ,

This is true, however, Firefox focus has a built in blocker that’s pretty good, and the Orion browser for iOS actually supports Firefox extensions (even though it’s built on top of safari), and is also pretty good. I run bothe Firefox focus and Orion with ublock on my iOS devices.

Eggyhead ,

I just installed Orion thanks to this post and I'm really impressed. I usually stick to safari, but I'm going to sit on this for a week and see how I feel about it.

2 quick questions; Do you know if it's possible to get YouTube videos to run in PiP on iOS/iPadOS? And is there a dark mode for the app's interface?

harsh3466 , (edited )

Yes, you can do pip, you need to first expand the video to full screen, then tap the screen to bring up the on screen controls, and you should see a pip button in the upper left of the video.

Orion doesn’t have a dark mode that I’m aware of, though it mostly respects iOS dark mode (with annoying exceptions). Though with firefox extensions, you can install dark reader, or you can install the dark reader iOS app, to get dark mode on all websites.

Edit: I’m not certain that dark reader iOS app will work with orion. I don’t use the app, I use the firefox extension with orion.

H4mi ,

I use Firefox Focus on iOS. It blocks quite a bit without addons.

skuzz ,

Also third party browsers on iOS are forced to use a janky slow WebKit WebView instead of the accelerated WebKit on Safari.

In the EU, things are different and third-party rendering engines have been forced upon Apple, so people there may have more options.

mp3 ,
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

On Android, Firefox for iOS doesn’t have addons because Apple.

maccentric ,

The Orion browser has rudimentary support for Firefox extensions. UBlock origin seems to work for me. Best I’ve found for iOS

webghost0101 ,

For real the votes here have so much “well it works on my machine so you must be wrong”-energy

SorryQuick ,

It it because apple doesn’t want addons, or because firefox is forced to use webkit?

mp3 ,
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

From what I understand, it’s mostly because they’re forced to use WebKit, and building a compatibility layer to make the existing addons to work within iOS constraints on top of WebKit would need a significant amount of work.

My guess is that Mozilla is waiting on the engine restrictions to be lifted, but so far that will only happen in the European market with their alt stores.

ShepherdPie ,

Firefox mobile allows you to install extensions just like a PC version of the browser.

strawberry ,

low key that's why I switched. ads on mobile are so incredibly intrusive

Orbituary ,
@Orbituary@lemmy.world avatar

Mull is a Firefox fork with even more privacy features. There are others that I’m sure people will chime in with.

UltraMagnus0001 ,

Blocks ads in YouTube too, and if you add sponsorblock you it’ll skip in video ads too

Mog_fanatic ,

I tried but for some reason certain websites can’t play any videos on Firefox without buffering every like 5 or 10 seconds for a few seconds. It happens on 100% of videos on YouTube and like 50% of videos on any other website. It’s super annoying, so back to chrome I went and I guess I’ll stay until ublock bites the dust and I have to move.

militaryintelligence ,

Google owns YouTube so there’s probably some shenanigans there

Kallioapina ,

Thats Googles fault. Firefox has an user agent switcher -addon. Flip it there to appear as Chrome, and suddenly Youtube bufferring problems drastically lessen.

Also if you are in EU, consider making a complaint about this assholish and anti-competetive behaviour to your country’s competition/trade authority. Also EU’s, if you feel like being an extra responsible EU citizen. These assholes at Google need to be fined to extinction.

echo ,

Mostly inertia and other priorities…

aeharding ,
@aeharding@vger.social avatar

It’s ez

echo ,

yeah, I went ahead and set it up…

Any recommendation for an alternative to Hangouts?

ipkpjersi ,

Hopefully it will break badly enough to move people past their inertia so then there can be a more serious competitor to Chrome, or maybe even multiple competitors to Chrome.

Zahille7 ,

I personally enjoy Ecosia. They’re the ones who plant trees whenever you use their search engine, and while not the best, at least their mobile app has a built in ad-blocker that imo seems pretty decent.

Resonosity ,

You can use FireFox and set your default search engine to Ecosia’s. Best of both world’s.

There is also a FF extension called Search For Trees that defaults to Google’s search engine instead of Ecosia/Bing where you don’t have to pre-load each search with #g, unlike Ecosia. The Google search in this extension is a little wacky though so not perfect. Search For Trees donates to Trees For the Future btw.

westyvw ,

Or better still firefox focus. Ad blocking built in and it drops all the cookies as soon as you close it.

I keep firefox on mobile for when I need to go to a trusted site, firefox focus for everything else.

PopShark ,

I just wanted to drop in to say I do the same!! Especially on iOS where regular Firefox is kinda so-so (but better than Safari) Firefox Focus meanwhile is King

Steve ,

Yup

_bcron ,

Firefox with NoScript is better than any adblocker I used. It blocks the ‘disable adblocker’ popups alongside ads and most sketchy shit in general

superkret ,

It also blocks everything else on the website.

Makeitstop ,

It’s definitely more of a hassle than most people will want to deal with. But I still prefer to have it and selectively enable things as needed, because quite frankly I’d rather deal with predictable hassles of my own making than be bombarded with new bullshit every day due to ever worsening trends in enshittification.

webghost0101 ,

Tip: its not better if you know its to much hassle for most people. But dont let that stop you from posting your ideas. The more power to those that such is not a hassle.

Makeitstop ,

People have different tolerances for these kinds of things. Some people never bother to even get an ad blocker. Some won’t touch settings no matter how simple. And some want to tweak and modify endlessly.

Makeitstop ,

Why not both?

ShepherdPie ,

Because it can ruin your browsing experience all together. It’d be like installing multiple anti-virus programs on your Windows PC

icosahedron ,

iirc some hardened firefox configs, including arkenfox, recommend using ublock ONLY. other privacy extensions like noscript aren’t worth using because ublock replicates all of their features plus more

prole ,

You can basically use uBlock Origin as NoScript (or I think ScriptSafe? or did they change back?) if you put it into “hard mode.”

I personally like “medium mode”. I guess I get why they hide it behind several obscure steps, but I feel like they should advertise it more. It’s a nice middle ground. Still breaks every website the first time you go there but meh. Small price to pay.

Kalkaline ,
@Kalkaline@leminal.space avatar

Firefox reader mode is the champ, especially when combined with uBlock

fine_sandy_bottom ,

I don’t understand the inertia if I’m honest.

shalafi ,

Easy to understand. People don’t like change.

Despite 25 years in IT, and knowing better, I only recently switched back to Firefox. I expected a fair bit of hassle, and I won’t say the transition was seamless, but I was astounded.

Those of us in the know aren’t doing any good circle jerking ourselves over our superior browser. We need to get our friends, coworkers and relatives engaged. And that should be easy if we contrast our ad-free experience with theirs.

Sir_Kevin ,
@Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

On that note: Anyone wanting the same look and feel of Chrome without ads should try Brave. No add-ons or plugins necessary.

Jimmycakes ,

Nobody that cares about seeing ads is still on chrome. I bet they don’t lose more than 8-10% market share in a year even that is probably super high

grue ,

I’ve always used Firefox on every other device I own, but now I need to do something about my Chromebook.

Scrollone ,

Rocking Firefox even from my Android phone. It works great!

vinayagg ,

Do you know if brave browser is better than firefox? they claim to prioritize user privacy more than firefox

linearchaos ,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

I’d use Firefox over brave. The company behind brave will still sell your data.

They’re selling the tor feature of brave. You can install tor in FF.

I like brave because it’s staffed with developers full-time to block YouTube. I don’t love their crypto, but I don’t use it, and it does pay their devs.

hswolf ,
@hswolf@lemmy.world avatar

brave is based on chromium, so it’s not 100% safe from google

Cheems ,
@Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

You can even keep all your bookmarks

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BlameThePeacock ,

Switching back to Firefox in the next few weeks. Fuck you google

NateNate60 ,

What did the fact checker bot ever do to you?

Estebiu ,
@Estebiu@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Shh, we dont talk about that here…

fine_sandy_bottom ,

Fact checker bot is BS. It should be banned.

samus12345 ,
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Just block it and you won’t have to see it any more.

catloaf ,

That doesn’t fix the problem. MBFC is firmly biased, and presenting it as unbiased is positively harmful.

fine_sandy_bottom ,

Sure because if I don’t see it the problem is solved.

NateNate60 ,

I wonder why you hate the fact-checkers.

fine_sandy_bottom ,

I don’t hate fact checkers.

I dislike this bot.

leftzero ,

Spread disinformation.

Label anything short of outright fascism as “left leaning” in an attempt to shift the overton window even further right than it already is in the US.

Spam.

It’s malware, it’s harmful, and it should be banned.

leraje , in J.K. Rowling, Elon Musk Named in Imane Khelif's Cyberbullying Lawsuit
@leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

The same type of right-winger as JKR and EM now are used to accuse the Williams sisters of being men. The same type of right-winger JKR and EM now are used to accuse Michelle Obama of being a man.

Strange how its mostly always women of colour who have these utterly baseless accusations leveled at them by right-wingers like JKR and EM. And when I say ‘strange’ I mean its not strange at all and is deliberate.

chatokun ,

Used to? Some of them don’t know how to stop. Alex Jones jumped violently on this train, and h3, his crew, and Rodger Stone were up until Kamala became the forerunner claiming either Hillary or “big Mike” would replace Biden. Then would diverge into making more terrible jokes about Michelle Obama for a while before getting back to the point.

primrosepathspeedrun ,

no, no, its all a conspiracy of trans people, anyone I dislike is trans.

“aint I a woman?” nope, obviously not, sorry sir.

originalucifer , in Liz Truss leaves stage in Beccles as 'lettuce' banner unfurls
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

so the banner lasted longer on stage than she did?

Contingencyfork ,

Lettuce take a moment.

worldwidewave ,

Just continuing to prove that Lettuce beats Truss

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ravhall , in Tim Hortons criticized for looking abroad to staff Ontario cafes

Hey, homeless people in the USA will work for cheap. Blame your own country! ;)

ravhall , in Michigan man accused of fatally shooting his neighbor following argument over mulch

Hey, don’t touch mulch or you’ll be shot. Kinda like don’t get out of the car to yell at someone who hit your car with a plastic bottle or you might be beaten to a pulp. Victims gotta realize it’s their fault, because society made the bad guy. 🙄🙄🙄🙄/s

Reverendender ,

Don’t pick up a pan of water or you’ll be shot in the face?

scytale , in Michigan man accused of fatally shooting his neighbor following argument over mulch

I live in a new neighborhood and the house beside mine is still vacant. Every few days, I see potential buyers pull up with their agents to check it out. I cross my fingers hoping my eventual neighbor will be chill and easy-going.

Reverendender ,

What’s it going for?

Lets_Eat_Grandma , in Biden wants to free you from all those subscriptions you meant to cancel but didn’t

Can we also target restaurants that list a price and then add on bogus fees for no reason?

Looking at you, South End Buttery Annex in Boston, MA. 4% “administrative fee” on all purchases that is advertised NOWHERE.

Psythik ,

Reminds me of a local restaurant where they train the servers to ask if you want any sauces/dips, and then fail to inform you that they’re charging you for it when you say yes. Shadiest shit ever.

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NocturnalMorning , in Michigan man accused of fatally shooting his neighbor following argument over mulch

Imagine being the type of person who thinks shooting someone after a minor disagreement is acceptable. How angry and empty must your life be to resort to such an extreme response.

ravhall ,

mulch is the new grass.

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