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tanja , in Italy's parliament approves ban on lab-grown food amid tensions

Rather disappointing.

I’d be in favor of a law requiring the labeling of such products, but this seems to overreach; especially when applied to animal feed.

toothpaste_sandwich ,

Successful lobbying by the meat industry, absolutely not in the public’s best interest. Disgusting, really.

Uglyhead , in Kansas mayor who tried to rid city library of LGBTQ books loses school board race
@Uglyhead@lemmy.world avatar

Across the country the Nat-C’s and the Qult45 lost election after election, from school boards to higher offices.

People are just dead tired of the extremists and radicals trying to take over the country.

Stay out of peoples bedrooms, bathrooms, boardrooms, and babymakers.

FlashMobOfOne , (edited )
@FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world avatar

I’d like to think you’re right, but 2024 will demonstrate that the extremists are well aware of the foothold they’ve gotten in the door. The extremists aren’t going to have to lie that people are doing worse under Biden, and voters won’t care that people are fascist if they promise change and to put food on the table.

Things are going to get worse before they get better.

cmbabul ,

This has been my fear, the conflict in the Middle East has only exacerbated it

Stern , in The lazy, entitled millennials trope just doesn’t hold up. Whoopi in hot water again...
@Stern@lemmy.world avatar

Millennials are coming up on FORTY. We are starting to show up regularly in congress. We can run for president. We have survived multiple economic crises, the world falling apart around us, and have seen the ladders our forebears climbed pulled up behind them.

There aren’t enough hours in the week to afford the American dream anymore. Every starter home is being bought by multi-nationals for far more then we have to rent back to us for far too much of our paycheck. That paycheck still hasn’t gone up (despite our company having a banner year and giving massive bonuses to the chiefs) because we bought into the idea that our company is family when it turns out that family was the Donners and we’re looking like a snack.

So eat a bag of dicks Whoopi.

HuddaBudda , in Trump and His Lawyers Dare NY Judge to Throw Him in Jail
@HuddaBudda@kbin.social avatar

According to two sources familiar with the matter and another person briefed on Team Trump’s legal strategies, the former president and his lawyers are intentionally trying to provoke the judge into a nuclear-level overreaction.

This? Is the plan?

That's like saying you're going to kill a dragon by hopping into its mouth.

clutchmatic ,

If the lawyers get disbarred then Trump gains time but the lawyers’ careers are fucked

RememberTheApollo_ ,

Overreaction?

How is it an overreaction when any normal person would have been tossed in jail months or even years ago?

FlashMobOfOne , (edited )
@FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world avatar

Normal people don’t have a few thousand people out there waiting for an excuse to shoot people.

But they should jail Trump anyway. When you have such a dangerous following, it’s even more important that the law come down hard.

RememberTheApollo_ ,

How so?

Those are supposed to be independent examples of how rich people get richer, but yes, they can do all of them.

_haha_oh_wow_ ,
@_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works avatar

They’re already finding excuses.

100_kg_90_de_belin ,

The whole “well-organized militia” thing is kinda biting the US in the ass.

afraid_of_zombies ,

To be fair it does work if you have an immovable rod and a DM that honors rule of cool.

CalicoJack ,

If the judge loses it bad enough, they can claim “judicial bias” and have a pretty clear path to mistrial/appeal. Given the situation, it’s probably the best play they have.

ferralcat ,

Any normal defendent would be in jail though, probably before the trial even started, but definitely after calling a judge names while in court. I’m simultaneously shocked and not at all surprised he isn’t.

chiliedogg ,

Why would he have been in jail prior to trial?

They don’t do pre-trial detention for fraud, and the only way for this trial to lead to jail time is a (deserved) contempt charge.

arc ,

<span style="color:#323232;">According to two sources familiar with the matter and another person briefed on Team Trump’s legal strategies, the former president and his lawyers are intentionally trying to provoke the judge into a nuclear-level overreaction.
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I think Trump’s legal strategy is he knows he’s lost already. He’s going to be fined and run out of business. So is his only hope is if he and his lawyers are obnoxious dicks and provoke a reaction to force a mistrial or grounds for appeal. Also he can whine about “witch hunt” and the usual nonsense to his base if he’s found in contempt or held accountable for his actions. Expect this nonsense to happen in his criminal trials too.

whofearsthenight ,

I think Trump’s legal strategy is he knows he’s lost already.

I’m pretty sure he has lost already and guilt has been legally decided. This is to determine the penalty. FTA:

Engoron ruled in September that Trump’s financial statements contained fraud.

This trial is to determine the depth of the fraud, and importantly, the consequence appropriate depending on the outcome. The whole strategy now is to delay and get to appeal probably with the number one goal being to get elected again and create a legal quagmire, or simply ride out the rest of his years until his milkshake-filled arteries realize he hasn’t ever had a heart and the only thing that’s been pumping this long is pure narcissism.

This is, sadly, probably the least stupid thing he could do, because the more facts you learn about Trump, the more you’d think his fetish is just bending over and getting fucked by a strap-on wielding Lady Justice.

TechyDad ,
@TechyDad@lemmy.world avatar

“Step 1, I hop into the dragon’s mouth. Step 2, ???. Step 3, the dragon dies and I emerge victorious! There are no holes in this plan at all!”

PeleSpirit , in Why Was This 11-Year-Old Brownsville ISD Honor Student Put in Solitary For Three Days?

Uhhh, this wasn’t just the principal. Thankfully the judge had some common sense.

Cameron County prosecutors pushed for Class C felony charges of “terroristic threat” and argued for two more weeks of detention. Instead, Judge Adela Kowalski-Garza ordered a safety risk evaluation and conditional release home until his hearing November 8.

DemBoSain , in FBI director warns antisemitism in US reaching 'historic levels'
@DemBoSain@midwest.social avatar

anti-Israel ≠ anti-semitic

alquicksilver ,
@alquicksilver@lemmy.world avatar

While the statement itself is true, it ignores the fact that there has been an uptick in violent antisemitism and islamophobia.

Wrench ,

There has been an uptick in violence against groups that the far right Christian white demographic target regularly.

That’s not just limited to semites or muslims.

Occamsrazer ,

Maybe, but the only reason this is notable is because of an uptick that is from the literal opposite of Christian right wing.

kleenbhole ,

You think the FBI doesn’t know that?

Really?

njm1314 ,

I mean, yeah that’s why this article is here… Not sure where you’re going with this.

kleenbhole ,

I’m saying that to point out the fact that anti-israeli sentiments aren’t inherently antisemitic is superfluous, and not implied by the article or the FBI’s director.

BUT, any time Israel is in the news for anything it brings out anti-semitism. Israeli conflicts act as a proxy war for regional and global powers, and both organic and deliberate antisemitic propaganda is ramping up.

TechyDad ,
@TechyDad@lemmy.world avatar

This is true, however there are people who don’t like Israel and blame all Jews for what Israel does.

I’m an American Jew. I don’t like much of what Israel does. Guess what, though. I can’t change Israel’s actions. I can speak up, but I have the same say as any other American. It’s not like Israel is going to say “this random American Jew said to stop so we’ve got to stop doing this.”

Unfortunately, there are people who seem to think that all Jews are valid targets for anti-Israel sentiment. I’ve seen people spray painting/vandalizing buildings because they are Jewish temples, businesses, or homes. I’ve seen people online justify this by claiming that every Jew is a representation of Israel and thus a valid target. I’ve seen people cheering on Hamas’ attack and slaughter of innocents and hoping that more Jews get killed worldwide.

And before anyone comments: No, I don’t think Israel killing innocent Palestinians is good. That’s one of those things I’d change, but have no power to really affect. I could speak up more with the Palestinian Rights folks, but if people in that crowd are calling for Jews to be killed, do you really think I’m comfortable joining that crowd?

So you can criticize Israel and be fine, but if your “criticism of Israel” is “all Jews need to be held responsible for what Israel has done and should be killed,” then you’re definitely anti-semitic. (I’m using the generic “you” here.)

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Israel is like ISIS. They’re hiding their crimes behind a religion while simultaneously not following the religion whatsoever.

Suggesting that israel is Jewish is extremely anti-semitic, but our media will gladly destroy the Jewish name to further their imperialist cause.

257m ,

Generalization is big issue. Whether its generalizing all Jews as Zionists or all Muslims as terrorists. I blame lack interactions between cultures. Talking to other cultures helps you realize we are all the same at the end of the day. We need to realize most people don’t want to inflict suffering and are not your enemy.

dylanmorgan ,

True, but I’ve been seeing a fair number of people commenting in a way that shows they don’t know that, and are conflating Israel with all Jewish people everywhere.

Jakeroxs , (edited )

Some of that is intentional, it’s not new for pro-isreal lobby groups to smack the “antisemitic” label on any public figure who speaks out against the government of Israel, been going on for years.

Obviously actual nazis and antisemitic people suck and should be called out for their bullshit, but the powers that be have also made the problem worse by inaccurately throwing the label on people.

dylanmorgan ,

True. There’s also the Zionist push to link Israel with all Jewish people, whether the Jewish people in question want it or not.

Jakeroxs ,

Yup, it works as a shield for any criticism for them.

Harpsist ,

Amen to that brother.

Mrkawfee ,

They are deliberately conflating it so that people stay quiet about the genocide.

jeffw , in Trump, who once appeared to defend January 6 threats against Pence, calls on his former VP to endorse him
@jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

Time to find out how much of a cuck Pence is. Let’s see if he does it

NOT_RICK ,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

No matter what he does, he’ll never out cuck Ted Cruz

Riccosuave ,
@Riccosuave@lemmy.world avatar

Or Lindsay Graham.

nonailsleft ,

Wasn’t Cruz the original cuck?

Deiv ,

Ah, so that’s what OC stands for

girlfreddy OP ,
@girlfreddy@lemmy.world avatar

Canada apologizes for sending him south.

Krackalot ,

We’re not going to blame anyone for that. We’re thinking about doing the same thing.

Bytemeister ,

I think Pence actually had more spine than say, Ted Cruz. I think Pence will not explicitly support trump, but he will not denounce him either.

iamericandre , in Mike Johnson Said Same-Sex Marriage Would Lead to People Marrying Their Pets, Wanted to Sentence Abortion Doctors to “Hard Labor”

Election deniers should be sentenced to hard labor

Pat_Riot ,
@Pat_Riot@lemmy.today avatar

Generous, aren’t you?

CADmonkey ,

If the hard labor was building roads or railways, it would be generous to everyone.

Pat_Riot ,
@Pat_Riot@lemmy.today avatar

… that’s the sound of a man workin’ on the chain…gaaang

Socsa ,

What’s the saying about traitors receiving quarters? Like for arcade machines right?

Pat_Riot ,
@Pat_Riot@lemmy.today avatar

Oh they should be quartered alright. Drawn and…

silverbax , in Trump valued holdings at 'whatever number' he picked, Michael Cohen testifies

Just like his magic ‘215’ weight. That dude is easily over 300 pounds.

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  • surewhynotlem ,

    So he’s 215 with ten full diapers?

    I feel like he’s more full of shit than that.

    thorbot ,

    His flesh is the diaper and the inside is all shit

    nous ,

    I just wish it would stop leaking out everywhere.

    SkybreakerEngineer ,

    No, that’s Giuliani

    Guru_Insights99 ,

    Source??

    somethingsnappy ,

    I am 215, obly 6 feet tall, and I look an emaciated soccer player compared to him.

    Rhoeri , in She was told her twin sons wouldn’t survive. Texas law made her give birth anyway.
    @Rhoeri@lemmy.world avatar

    Texas should pay for all hospital bills and the funerals.

    keefshape ,

    And life long mental health care. Fuck.

    snooggums ,
    @snooggums@kbin.social avatar

    The government should already be doing that for everyone, and not causing trauma by forcing people to make horrific medical decisions.

    Coffeemonkepants ,

    I mean, no? In case it wasn’t clear from the article, these are the people that voted for this shit. It’s also ironic they’re already on Medicare (in their 20s) as it is. This should be an ‘I get it now’ moment for these families, but they’ll learn nothing.

    oroboros ,

    I’m confused, hardcore Christians name their kids after (what Christians call pagan) Greek gods?

    Rai ,

    I haven’t really known Christians to NOT be hypocritical.

    dragonflyteaparty ,

    Sure, but I don’t really think that pertains to the parents here. It’s the dad’s family who’s hardcore Christians.

    girlfreddy ,

    Nowhere in the article does it say that the babies’ mom or dad was hard-core Christian.

    Dad’s family is.

    oroboros ,

    Yeah I didn’t get the impression they were crazy religious…

    lolcatnip ,

    They won’t for more or less the same reasons why they’re forcing this shit to happen in the first place. Texas is infested with the worst kind of Republicans.

    Ghyste , in Goldman is back with a 16-years-later look at the housing market crash of 2008—and finds affordability is even worse right now

    Of course it is. Everyone in the US who’s watched TV in the last few years has seen companies and privileged individuals buying any privately owned property available for any reasonable price.

    Are they reselling them? No. Are they renting or leasing the worthwhile properties for outrageous rates? Yes. Are they bulldozing lodgings and putting up apartments at every other opportunity? Yes.

    Are they aiding the housing crisis by building new single family dwellings? No.

    Are they forcing as many people as they can into rental lodging with decreasing prospects of those families and individuals ever owning their own house? Absolutely.

    Dogyote ,

    Honest question:

    If they’re bulldozing lodgings and putting up apartments instead of building new single family dwellings, isn’t that helping the housing crisis by supplying higher density housing? Like you can house more people with less land?

    Orbituary , (edited )
    @Orbituary@lemmy.world avatar

    They’re ignoring supply and demand by keeping rents up in dense areas. That allows them to withstand empty units. Moreover, there are tools created to help them determine the right ratio of empty units to keep in order to maximize profit through reduction in management as well as maintaining an occupancy balance.

    It’s downright insipid.

    seattletimes.com/…/new-lawsuit-alleges-price-fixi…

    sadreality ,

    If it is more "effective" to keep hi rents and hi vacancy, then it is a strong indicator that the market is fixed

    agitatedpotato ,

    Is any large market not fixed in this hellhole of a country?

    Orbituary ,
    @Orbituary@lemmy.world avatar

    I can only imagine what the person said. I don’t know why average people run to the defense of corporations.

    seattletimes.com/…/new-lawsuit-alleges-price-fixi…

    SlikPikker ,

    Capitalism will do that

    FraidyBear ,

    Yes in the sense that they are housing but it’s not affordable housing and I wouldn’t call the massive expanse that these apartment complexes take up “high density.” One of the complexes next to me has FOUR connected complexes that take up several entire city blocks. The buildings are two stories tall and most of them are one bedroom so these things are concrete hellscapes and they don’t hold the same number of people as European style planned cities, not even close. Plus, these aren’t apartment buildings in walkable and accessible areas, they are sprawling complexes built smack dab in the middle of the suburbs with NO amenities or public transport within walking distance. They are just tiny shitty fenced in neighborhoods with nothing going for them other than shelter. I’m sure they are much nicer than a lot of places but as someone that’s lived in one for 10 years now, they are soul sucking wastes of space. Some of these apartments on the bottom floors could have been corner stores, boutiques, salons, restaurants, or shops. They could have gotten rid of one or two of the parking lots for a park since it’s convenient to walk and you don’t need a car. Instead we just get packed in here and hope we can keep up with the rent.

    MelodiousFunk , (edited )
    @MelodiousFunk@kbin.social avatar

    they are sprawling complexes built smack dab in the middle of the suburbs with NO amenities or public transport within walking distance.

    One of these behemoths went up near me, after a nightmarish yuppie shopping center had already been established. (It's "walkable" but also "drivable" and doing either makes you feel like you're going to get aquatinted with the other against the will of all involved. But yay amenities?) The only way in or out is via one moderately trafficked road and one extremely congested highway. But hark! A train station! Within walking distance! Except the train station was built decades ago and only designed to be accessed from the other side of the tracks. It's all fenced off. The only way to get to the train station is by driving a quarter mile through the shopping center to the highway, getting on the highway for a quarter mile, going into the shopping center next door, and driving another quarter mile through that shopping center. Then you can park and wave at your neighbors. Theoretically you could walk or ride a bike... but there's no pedestrian lanes on or along that highway.

    It's stunningly awful.

    OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe ,

    You know it was frustrating but not that bad until you got to the bit about the fence. FUCK that’s just such poor planning.

    reddig33 , in ACT test scores for US students drop to new 30-year low

    Yes, the combination of continued gutting of the public school system followed by a pandemic will do that. 

    bloopernova , in Iran Helped Plot Attack on Israel Over Several Weeks
    @bloopernova@programming.dev avatar

    I have nothing but a gut feeling to back this up, but isn’t this oh so convenient for russia? Now the very powerful USA Israel lobby will be asking for as much aid as possible.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if russia was behind this and other escalations.

    rastilin ,

    I think I saw Russia's name before, so it's not just you wondering about that. It would be completely unsurprising to find out that Russia is giving a push to plans that had been mothballed for a while.

    homesweethomeMrL ,

    I actually think it’s better for russia to fracture the democrats over it. Stop the genocide b/w support Israel. That’s the spin they’re expecting, and have already started to see dividends from that in the press.

    The curse of over-simplifying is the only winner in any of that messaging. Keep the discussions long, detailed and boring. Ignore the blaring “dems in disarray” messaging they’ve already got chambered for next week.

    Scrof ,

    Well considering they’re Iran’s biggest ally and Iran wants nothing less than total destruction of State of Israel and slaughtering of all the Jews…

    chaogomu ,

    It's not as simple as that.

    Iran fucks with Israel, because Israel fucks with Iran. And they've both been at it since 1979.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-30/how-israel-and-iran-attack-each-other-while-avoiding-all-out-war

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-56724039

    The religious aspect is just icing on the cake to the geopolitical tensions.

    OldWoodFrame ,

    It’s not like we really have a budget to hit, we can just fund both. If anything, Republicans in the House who are arguing that we need to spend the money here instead of on military aid will lose that talking point if they vote for Israeli aid. And the Senate who wants Ukrainian money can tie the two together to force more money to Ukraine.

    Not that it can’t be Russian-encouraged, they probably do want the US preoccupied somewhere else, but Hamas has their own reasons for launching the attack, not everything has to be about the United States.

    jscummy ,

    It might disrupt US focus a little, but Israel’s military really doesn’t need help on this. Israel is heavily militarized with a very advanced domestic defense industry. And as much as Russia has flopped, they’re still a former superpower while Hamas is DIYing half their equipment

    UltraMagnus0001 ,

    Logic doesn’t compute for Putin.

    ohlaph ,

    He isn’t computin.

    UltraMagnus0001 ,

    does not computin

    BarrierWithAshes ,
    @BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social avatar

    Israel's been neutral in the Ukraine conflict. I doubt Russia would seriously risk turning Israel.

    And even then, if Russia wanted to do something theyd do it through Syria, not Gaza.

    At the very least this maybe could be a diversion to get eyes off Ukraine but I seriously doubt that. Hamas is probably just pissed off Saudi/Israeli relations have been improving and want to stop that.

    Russia really isn't some illuminati spymaster country.

    TechyDad ,
    @TechyDad@lemmy.world avatar

    It could have been a move to take Israel off the “Ukraine Playing Field” before they ever entered. Before, there was a risk of Israel lending support to Ukraine. Now, Israel will be using all of its military capabilities closer to their home.

    Of course, that’s just a possibility. Personally, I don’t think Russia had much, if any, hand in this. At most, perhaps Iran told them what was going on so the Russian disinformation machines could spin up as much confusion and dissent as possible in the West.

    Russia might also exploit this situation for their gain, but it doesn’t mean they planned it.

    tallwookie ,

    the US can easily fund the war against Russian aggression as well as the war to save Israel - the US is #1 economy

    protist ,

    This does not account for US domestic politics though. Now, Republicans who have been pro-Russia and anti-Ukraine aid will be screaming from the rooftops about how that money should have all gone to Israel instead. They started blaming Biden for this the day it happened, meanwhile not a peep about Netanyahu

    tallwookie ,

    yeah. “can” and “will” are two separate things

    protist ,

    You are correct

    AliasAKA , (edited )

    I think if they were involved it will backfire on them. The reality is it is now going to be a lot easier, and the military-industrial complex is extremely eager, to put aid for Israel as a joint package in aid with Ukraine. Net result may be that aid is enhanced for both nations.

    Edit: that said they do want Iranian drones. I could see them supporting it from that perspective and also happy to run their misinformation campaigns for them to dry and drive a wedge.

    what ,

    Not every attack is caused by the boogieman that people think Russia is

    TechyDad ,
    @TechyDad@lemmy.world avatar

    But at the same time, I don’t doubt that Russia will jump in to cause as much chaos as possible if they think it will help them. Just because they didn’t help plan this attack doesn’t mean they can’t push (through “certain people that they know”) for aid to go to Israel instead of Ukraine.

    JWayn596 ,

    I don’t think this is gonna help Russia. Republicans are gonna look dumb for looking hypocritical when they demand aid be sent to Israel.

    Democrats can conveniently package Israel-Ukraine aid to make Republicans, who while resistant to Ukraine aid, see it as the easiest option to satisfy their base.

    It’s already happening too. Check the politics sub here.

    TechyDad ,
    @TechyDad@lemmy.world avatar

    Republicans are also using the attack for blatant political purposes. One of their newest lines is that Hamas are sending troops across the southern US border to join sleeper cells and attack our cities. And, of course, they claim that Biden is just letting these nonexistent Hamas in because Sleepy Joe/Open Borders/Liberals Evil or something.

    JWayn596 ,

    I wouldn’t give it that much attention. It’s probably yogurt and greenfield or whatever those weirdos are named.

    TechyDad ,
    @TechyDad@lemmy.world avatar

    It starts with people like that (or random conspiracy theorists on X and Truth Social). Then, it spreads to people like Trump. Before you know it, FOX News is running special reports about how Hamas is absolutely crossing the southern border.

    They’re likely testing this line out to see what kind of traction it gets and, if it’s successful enough, you’ll see more and more right wing talking heads parroting it.

    lemmylommy ,

    It is. They also were very, very quick to point out that „the west“ is at fault for supporting Ukraine too much and therefore Israel not enough.

    Coldgoron ,
    derf82 , in Kevin McCarthy is ousted as House speaker in a historic vote pushed by conservatives

    I get that Dems are enjoying seeing the Republicans seem to fail, but I get the feeling this is going to turn out horribly. We’re going to see Speaker Jim Jordan or Matt Gaetz and the country will suffer for it.

    ErrorF002 ,

    Highly unlikely. Freedom caucus will not get the speakership. GOP hates them more than McCarthy. Gaetz didn’t think this through. The only option is more of the same or somebody more friendly to the Democrats.

    derf82 ,

    The freedom caucus can block any nominee they want, and Republicans have made it clear they won’t accept someone that wants to work with Dems. It took 15 votes to get McCarthy as it was. I am not hopeful.

    mosiacmango ,

    The freedom caucus can only block nominees if no compromise is made with dems. The gop can give concessions and have a speaker tomarrow if they like.

    If they dont, then the house will have no speaker, and the GOP will get no bills passed of any type. The budget will be CRs until the election because none of the middle of the road GOP wants the shutdown fallout.

    Then, hopefully all these clowns get walloped.

    kbotc ,

    No bills can be brought without a speaker, so no CRs until a speaker is elected. The temp running the show has 3 powers: He can call a recess, adjourn, and call a vote for the speaker. That’s it. No other legislation passes unless they can get off their asses and put in a speaker.

    Anamnesis ,

    Can’t the pro tempore bring bills before the house?

    bingbong ,

    He can only run the voting for a new speaker

    frezik ,

    Which would also imply they can’t bring an impeachment vote in front of the House.

    I’ve been saying for a while now that the best way to fight fascism (before it gets to its terrible end state) is to push them to fight each other in purity contests. This is a good example.

    Agent641 ,

    Can the govt shutdown proceed without a speaker?

    nelly_man ,

    Yes. A government shutdown is what happens when Congress fails to pass a law that allows the federal government the necessary funds to operate. If the House is unable to pass such a law, the federal government will shut down.

    Dkarma ,

    Oh yeah. 40 some days left.

    Conservatives can’t govern.

    callouscomic ,

    If we oversimplify what happened, it’s hilarious that they are mad at him for voting with Dems, so they got rid of him by voting with Dems.

    insomniac ,
    @insomniac@sh.itjust.works avatar

    And one of the more likely scenarios is the non-freedom caucus GOP cuts a deal with Democrats to neuter freedom caucus’ power.

    cybersandwich ,

    Which is what McCarthy should have done a while ago. “I won’t do this stupid impeachment inquiry as long as you back me when they try to oust me”

    Dkarma ,

    You’re assuming Kevin is smart.

    I think he’s just terrified of Trumps base.

    cybersandwich , (edited )

    He is(edit: terrified, not smart). For sure. But the way you strip their power is by ripping the band-aid off and stop kowtowing to their non sense. That’s what actual leadership is. Saying “we need to do it this way because it’s the right thing to do” even if it’s hard or unpopular.

    The Republican moderates, if any actually still exist, could take back control of their party if they really had the balls to. It would require them to call a spade a spade, and then start working with Democrats.

    Dkarma ,

    Only cuz abstain is same as a no vote tho, really.

    Wakmrow ,

    I mean they just showed they have the power to remove the speaker, the power goes through them

    QHC ,

    They wouldn’t have had the power without Dem votes, ironically.

    derf82 ,

    Well, we have Jim Jordan and Steve Scalise as the choices. Both worse than McCarthy.

    Dkarma ,

    They gotta get the votes. Idk if u saw how Kevin struggled but he used everything he had politically to get that gavel in the first place… and even some he didn’t have. When he caved then that was when the idiots like gaetz knew he had kev by the balls…which is why we are here now.

    Acronymesis ,
    @Acronymesis@lemmy.world avatar

    I can’t shake the bad feeling that the timing is going to be a real problem once shutdown time rolls around here in less than 40-ish days. What if we don’t even have a fucking speaker at all by then??

    There is the possibility that Dems coordinate a vote with the not-Freedom Caucus GOP to elect the least disagreeable candidate, though…

    Gerudo ,

    I’m not a betting man, but if i was, this will be the outcome.

    derf82 ,

    If that was a possibility, I would think they would have done so in one of the 14 ballots before Republicans settled on McCarthy.

    Look what they did to Liz Chaney. They would expel a Republican that did that from the party, and then they would Primary them out of office.

    cybersandwich ,

    The next speaker will be incentivized to neuter the freedom clowns after what happened to McCarthy.

    So I think there is a better chance they try to strike a deal with the Dems. Honestly it’s just mins blowing to me that the Republicans see this absolute fiasco as a better outcome than getting 10-15 Dems on board. It wouldnt take much work.

    derf82 ,

    Any Republican that works with Dems any more than McCarthy is likely to be primaried. They have brainwashed their base to think Dems = Evil, and working with them is worse than a deal with the Devil.

    Republicans are stuck in this weird place where they do not have enough votes for a majority without the freedom caucus, but the base will replace them if they work with Dems. As such, they placate the freedom caucus.

    cybersandwich ,

    They can’t do it like wounded gazelles. They have to act together or in larger numbers. Don’t get picked off one by one.

    I know they are cowards, but jeez, I guess they can’t trust each other enough to do it together.

    joel_feila ,
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    Plus most ofvmy family would blame this all the dems for not reaching accross the asile, and being the party of devision.

    Rentlar ,

    “Yeah! Why aren’t dems meeting halfway between Donald Trump and Kevin McCarthy???”

    Fredselfish , in The police chief who led a raid of a small Kansas newspaper has been suspended
    @Fredselfish@lemmy.world avatar

    Mayor needs to go next along with judge who signed the fucking unconstitutional warrant.

    JustZ , (edited )
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    What was unconstitutional about it?

    Oh I see, just morons down voting instead of actually answering a question.

    MotoAsh ,

    All I see is a moron that doesn’t understand the word “constitutional”.

    JustZ ,
    @JustZ@lemmy.world avatar

    Why don’t you break it down? Simple question.

    Otkaz ,

    News organizations are typically issued seapenas for specific information because just raiding them and going through everything can reveal sources for unrelated stories. News organizations should have the ability to protect confidential sources if needed. Reason people are saying unconstitutional is because first amendment protects speech and freedom of press.

    At least that’s how I understand it but I am not a lawyer.

    JustZ , (edited )
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    I’m looking for something hyper specific, legal. Thanks for taking a whack.

    I think the usual case involves information from a confidential source, the publication of which by the press is absolutely protected by the First Amendment.

    In this case, it was a newspaper reporter who directly was accused of breaking the law to obtain confidential information from the government. The reporter either falsely impersonated the subject of the records or falsely certified as to her reason for accessing them, either violates state and federal law notably the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, which is what the search warrant cited.

    The press’s remedy for obtaining public records is through FOIA, which is itself a requirement of the First Amendment, on the basis that speech is infringed when the government doesn’t make its workings known to the public.

    The search warrant made sense to me, and seemed that, if true, the only reasonable conclusion is that the reporter broke the law.

    slurpeesoforion ,

    You could like, read the article. No need to be obtuse.

    JustZ ,
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    Read it, and the warrants.

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