Rape is tolerated in cases of religion and family. Two cornerstones of conservative values. Conservatives need to stop letting weirdos safeguard their children.
Conservatives don’t even conceptualize rape as involving consent. Consider this mini-rant by Rush Limbaugh:
You know what the magic word, the only thing that matters in American sexual mores today is? One thing. You can do anything — the left will promote and understand and tolerate anything — as long as there is one element. Do you know what it is? Consent. If there is consent on both or all three or all four, however many are involved in the sex act, it’s perfectly fine. Whatever it is. But if the left ever senses and smells that there’s no consent in part of the equation, then here come the rape police. But consent is the magic key to the left.
Frankly I didn’t know what they think rape actually is, but I’m this case I bet money they think the cop just owes the girl’s dad an apology for borrowing his property without permission, or for not marrying her, or something else equally disgusting.
That mini-rant is insane. It is completely insane that he would present that as something he disagrees with. And Repubs still respected him until the end, because they also disagree with it.
I appreciate that they are made public for analysis, but there is no fucking way I’m watching those bastards stand outside, knowing they just stood there while children were being murdered.
Watch it. Be angry. Get your blood boiling. The parents and families deserve our anger at these fuck ups in uniform. Our anger will get things moving. These families need the outcry of every one of us to call these officers out and ask for their heads. Hold them accountable, and never let something like this happen again.
I think I made it quite clear that I am already angry at them and holding them accountable. All watching the video will do will make me feel awful. What does that accomplish?
I’m with you. I watched the video of the man who was trying to comply with orders from the police and the officer warned him if he did anything other than what he was being ordered, he would be shot. Then, he was given confusing orders, and was shot when he did the wrong thing. He was on his knees with his hands in plain view when the threat came. There were multiple officers with weapons drawn. The man was sobbing and begging before he was shot. I can’t unsee it. I think it’s important that people see it so others can be held accountable, but not EVERYONE has to see it.
Agree 100%. And, on top of the reason you gave for it to be important for some people to see, it’s also important to keep as a historical record. But I personally do not need to see or hear people dying or people not reacting despite knowing other people are dying to be upset about the situation or to want to hold those responsible to account.
I’ve never seen George Floyd’s murder. That did not stop me from protesting the police murdering him because… you know… they murdered him.
In August 2018, Brailsford was reinstated by the Mesa Police Department, staying for a further 42 days in what the department described as a “budget position”. The department agreed to reimburse Brailsford for medical expenses related to his post-traumatic stress disorder – the result of his shooting of Shaver and the resultant criminal trial. The reinstatement allowed Brailsford to apply for “accidental disability” experienced during the course of work. As a result, Brailsford was unanimously approved to be retired on medical grounds. Brailsford was also given a pension of $2,500 per month. The fact that Brailsford was ultimately medically retired instead of remaining fired was only revealed to the public in July 2019.
He just fucking executed him in the hallway and walked over his body, and he gets rewarded?
Yes, Daniel Shaver. It was horrible to watch. I hadn’t heard about the medical retirement or pension. I generally don’t advocate for violence, but if he came to a violent end, I would not shed any tears.
I am not going to let these racists get away with being racist. They’re racist all the time when the cameras are off. They absolutely use both words to talk about black people, even to their faces. And then Trump goes out there and just says a bunch of racist shit.
Nope, I call it as I see it. I censored myself if anything.
If you can’t handle me using that word to criticize their racism, you’re really not going to be happy with the language used if Trump gets back into office. Because it won’t be that nice.
Again, if it’s so hurtful for you to see that you’re this upset about it, you’re not going to be able to handle a second Trump administration. You’re not even going to be able to handle the ugliness that will happen between now and November.
Because Republicans will be using much more hateful words and, unlike me, they mean it when they use them. Do you think they aren’t already using the actual N-word all the time? Trump himself has been known to say it. A lot.
You clearly can’t handle someone using the word ‘negro’ on Lemmy when they’re suggesting it’s something racists say. So yeah, I think I know enough about you to say that you won’t be able to handle it if someone actually uses it in a racist way if you can’t handle this.
I can handle it. I just don’t like it. And it’s not about the Republicans, my comment has nothing to do with them, it was about you. You’re the one that used the racial epithet. You.
But the racists you’re speaking of aren’t using it in public. Name one instance of an elected Republican using it in public in the past year. You can’t because they don’t. Do you know why they don’t? Because they know it’s offensive, hurtful, and they’ll get blowback for it.
But you did use the racial epithet, very unnecessarily, your point and joke could have been made without it.
You’re pointing your finger at racists because you say they’re using racial slurs privately. But you used it publicly. You did.
That’s why I called it out, you used a racial slur publicly, unnecessarily, that would be hurtful to people, and you’re proud of it and defend it. It’s not about what Republicans do, it’s about what you do.
But the racists you’re speaking of aren’t using it in public.
Yet. Which is my point.
Because they know it’s offensive, hurtful, and they’ll get blowback for it.
But you can’t handle it when someone who isn’t trying to be offensive said it.
That’s why I called it out
And then you continued to talk about how much it hurt you. Repeatedly. And then claimed I didn’t care about anyone’s feelings because I didn’t care if a word that people use in much ways hurt you when I used it.
By the way, you have no idea what my skin color is. I wonder if that would matter?
Regarding your race I don’t recall, but from memory I know you’re poor, sick, live in a Midwestern town or similar (I could check the Domino’s receipt stub and get a lot more info) enough family names and other trivia I could probably doxx you in an hour but I won’t bother.
Just this gem though, can’t you see the irony of you telling someone else not to make racist jokes when that’s exactly what you did?
You make all the jokes you want. Just not ones which disparage people with disabilities, are bigoted, racist, etc.
This isn’t a comedy club in the 90s. We don’t need your “edgy” humor.
If it didn’t hurt you, how do you know it hurt anyone else? Why do you speak for them.
And I didn’t make a racist joke, I made a joke about racists. It’s amazing you can’t tell what the difference is. You better never listen to a Richard Pryor routine.
Sorry, no. If you want people to listen when you talk, say something we won’t forget. Hearing “loyalty means you will be unharmed” is horrific and unforgettable. No one wants the CIA to become the new KGB except far right nuts who grew up afraid of living in that kind of world.
There are exemptions from the law, such as those wearing masks for health or religious reasons. But who gets to decide how to enforce that distinction? The legislature’s top Republican insisted police will be able to identify the difference.
Ah, the old “I know it’s a medical condition when I see it” policy that we’ve come to rely on police to assess.
Oof and Nassau and Suffolk County PDs are terrible. Suffolk cops are the ones that burst into laughter when TFG addressed them and said (paraphrased) “Why do you care so much when putting someone in the back of your police car, protecting their head? Maybe next time don’t worry about it.”
Oh I have no doubt they’ll pull masks off of anyone they feel like. They’ll probably use this as an excuse to pull a transparent oxygen mask from a senior citizen because it “hides their identity.”
Yeah… My home county. Trump land, rich & very poor people, but aggressive assholes none the less absolutely everywhere. Home of the $500k burned down shack masquerading as a “starter home.”
The sad thing is that I would not even be a little surprised if they tried to claim something maybe only slightly less broadly than that non-sarcastically.
There’s a longstanding thing in medicine that black people don’t feel as much pain as white people. It was never true, but for some reason it was believed for a long time.
Things like that are slowly changing, and dark-skin-color prosthetics and textbooks showing e.g. symptoms that present differently on dark skin as light skin, or testing drugs on women instead of only on men and assuming the women probably react like smaller men, etc etc. But a really surprising amount of it has survived even into the modern day.
The pain sensitivity thing is the tip of the iceberg. Look at the shit they were saying about black people either being immune to or much less likely to contract COVID: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8530468/
Their fucking racism will get their own race killed just as much as the race they hate.
The thing for someone like me who is immunocrompromised is. I need to wear a mask because I have a medical condition.
But also my immediate family and anyone interacting with me needs to wear a mask when in public. Covid is a death sentence for me. So this law doesn’t cover that.
That’s because, and I’m really sorry to say this, they don’t give a shit whether you live or die. If you die, it’s God’s will, even if they’re the cause.
Like it’s one thing for people to not want to wear a mask. Fucking bonkers to make a law banning them. Are criminals gonna be like “shit guys, guess we can’t crime any more”
Also, it’s already a crime for people to steal shit and cause trouble. Even if they aren’t wearing a mask, cops are unlikely to catch these people.
So glad she didn’t get elected to higher office. She’s as dumb as santos with a slightly less sketchy background. Looks like she’s doing ehat she can to spread the dumb though.
It’s not intended for productive effect. It’s a way to identify people who aren’t loyal to the orders of the tribe, and get violent with them.
As it does for a lot of other things, “On Tyranny” by Tim Snyder breaks this down very very well. He talks about the power of symbols, Nazi pins and yellow stars and the “Trump” flag and things like that, in the growth of fascist movements, and the important often overlooked role they play in starting to shape the fabric of day-to-day ordinary people’s lives in obedience to the leader, and engaging ordinary people in enforcing it.
The thing with banning masks isn’t about improving society in any way; as you point out, it’s pure nonsense looked at in that light. It’s about identifying the ones who won’t get in line.
I was talking to a coworker recently about past work experiences and how crazy COVID-19 was when it first came out. I was working at a hospital, not the normal medical kind but a state run psychiatric hospital. Still its a hospital that behaves in hospital ways, especially when it comes to communicable diseases.
So its November 2019 and word is that there is a nasty respiratory disease making its way in the medical news, everyone is a little nervous but we are in eastern Washington, in a small town. The world is very far away, until it isnt.
December comes and the first case of COVID one of my coworkers who had a history of health problems dies a couple weeks after catching COVID. His at home caretaker dies from COVID. His wife who also works at the hospital gets COVID but she tells us she didn’t even really notice it.
That was just the beginning. After about 5 deaths of employees at the hospital they stopped telling us.
I will never forget one person. He called me on a Thursday and left a voicemail requesting I call him back because he hates to go through the help desk and likes a human touch and enjoys my conversations.
I called him back but he went home sick. I tried calling him the next week but he was still out. A week later I go to his desk to see if he is there and there are a bunch of his coworkers there. He passed away over the weekend, COVID won.
I have worked in the hospital/medical industry for over 20 years. 16+ of those were at the # 1 trauma center in Washington State.
I don’t know how so many people can believe this was all just a hoax. I will forever have a great and deep seated hate for people expressing doubt about the deadliness of the disease.
Tens of millions? Those are rookie numbers. And it happened for exactly the same reasons, and the fuckers KNEW what they were doing. They just wanted to get rich, and didn’t care if it literally destroyed the world. And now the piper’s coming.
But COVID infections still disable around 2% of people who contract it for life. Now let covid keep on running around for a couple decades and a very large chunk of the population is going to have major issues.
I’m bedridden since 4 years with a lifelong disease caused by a covid infection. And I only see our numbers growing. 2% per infection is the most conservative estimate. The NIH says 5%
Oh I am not saying you are wrong. I still have some minor but significant effects from having had Covid a couple of years ago. I’m saying that global warming once it starts fucking up the food supply will kill on a scale that’s unimaginable to people who currently live in largely safe orderly war/famine free type countries.
I’m very sorry to hear that about your friend and experience. And thank you for your service!
But the answer is simple: it’s a cult. They are brainwashed (and ironically think everyone else are the ones brainwashed). So it doesn’t make sense and they just ignore that or have cognitive dissonance.
And unfortunately it’s just very difficult to dismantle a cult. Just look at scientology/mormonism/jw/etc.
So are they saying covid masks are fine since it’s for health reasons but face coverings are not fine? Also, do religious reasons only apply to women covering their faces? The Satanic Church allows me to do whatever I want.
Does that mean as a Satanist, that the bodily autonomy tenet includes masking to avoid airborne illnesses, even if I am at a protest against the march of fascism?
That’s great! And I think it’s encouraging to see any good news at all, from any state, as we slide further toward fascism. That probably sounds pessimistic, but I truly believe they cannot possibly fight all of us, in the ballot boxes, or in the streets…
So glad to hear the racist was arrested. Beautiful news!
I feel sorry for his daughter, because she’ll be remembered in the community for having a racist father. I imagine there will be lasting harm from that.
I mostly feel sorry for the man who was attacked, and glad he wasn’t further harmed. I also feel bad for the daughter, but I think it’s sad that most of the comments on the YT video don’t even mention the victim while sympathizing with the daughter.
Sure felonies should be considered on a case by case basis, but there are many felons I’d have an issue with running for office, not just this particular one.
That’s good bait, but I’m still not taking it. I repeat my stance, felonies should be considered on a case by case basis, but there are many felons I’d have an issue with running for office, not just this particular one.
“Case by case” for political office is so obviously open to corruption you shouldn’t bother with it though, and felony definitions are already weaponized as they are between drugs and protest laws.
Hell, for that matter, isn’t a public record of convictions already your best version of a case by case system?
Each voter can decide which crime matters to them…
I’m probably more likely to vote for someone that caught a felony for protesting.
Practically I think that all felons shouldn’t be able to run for office given the nature of the system. Ideally it would be case by case, but yes it would be corrupted and used by those in power to stop people from running. We either need to allow felons to vote and allow felons to run for president, OR do not allow felons to vote and do not allow felons to run for president. Right now the system makes no fucking sense.
It’s not case by case, but crime by crime. It should be decided on a basis of rule of law as to which specific crimes, such as those reflecting character and not just a lapse in judgement.
Trump has many convictions reflecting on his character in this one trial.
Problem with that is you can’t attack someone’s character in court unless they try to use it as a defense so there’s no way that’s getting into the constitution in our lifetimes.
People with felonies shouldn’t have been disenfranchised. That is obviously wrong.
That doesn’t mean you should also do something that’s wrong in response. Just because at this particular moment there would be an advantage to felons being forbidden from going on the ballot, doesn’t mean that will always hold true in the future. What happens in 20 years when the Cop City protestors try to run for elected office and are forbidden because of the bullshit charges they incurred protesting?
I’m not doing anything wrong. I’m keeping you accountable for the damage your side has already done. If you don’t like it why don’t you restore the voting rights of ex-cons and admit it was yet another way to subvert democracy by sealing votes away from people you know will not vote for you.
So we shouldn’t hold Trump and the GOP accountable now for some hypothetical in 20 years. In the meantime the GOP continues to win elections now and for years to come because of voter suppression?
It’s unrealistic that we will suddenly pass a law between now and November preventing felons from holding office. It could happen after that, but then it won’t be applied to Trump, it will be applied to people on the left.
People with felonies shouldn’t have been disenfranchised. That is obviously wrong.
Felon disenfranchisement did not become popular or widespread until after the Civil War. No points for guessing that the potion of the population also most like to be prosecuted for felonies just happen to be black men.
Fuck trump, but convicted felons have to be eligible for office to prevent abuse. If all it took was a felony, any opposition leader would just have some nonsense charges brought against them to make them ineligible.
This was also a key motivator of the war on drugs: criminalize the drugs that black people and anti-war protesters used, and they can be stripped of their voting rights.
And yet, not concerned enough to make the quality of life any better where people want to have children. Its like the greed is getting in the way of their ability to be more greedy in the future.
Its like the greed is getting in the way of their ability to be more greedy in the future.
late-stage capitalism in a nutshell
We’ve been at the point where the people at the top (who are there only from nepotism/luck) are heavily rewarded for screwing over the thing they’re a part of (and everyone in it) in the long term. And our government fuels the cycle by spending trillions in subsidies and bailouts and stuff for companies after executives & stockholders make them implode.
The people who control for-profit organizations generally don’t have much of an incentive to do what’s best for the company. Just to do what’s best for them and jump ship when things start to go south.
No no, they’re just upset he’s going to take their rights. The moment they get a chance, they’ll vote for someone who is willing to take yours. Don’t feel pity or respect, they did it to themselves.
I’ve met more than a few libertarians that view an essential role of the government is banning books that mention gay people.
A lot of libertarians are just Republicans mad the Republican party isn’t fascist enough. Their “small government” ideals often include government functions like making sure everyone worships Jesus.
FFS, I’ve seen idiots proudly waving the libertarian flag AND a thin blue line flag.
Basically they just think the government exists to give them what they want while not making them pay for anything they don’t. Hence why so many of the kids who got indoctrinated in the 90s (seriously… look up the mess that was MTV’s TRL) resulted in “libertarians are just republicans who like weed”.
That said, libertarianism is an inherently conservative political stance as it so heavily emphasizes “the free market” and “low taxes and low government spending”.
Most libertarians are both profoundly selfish and woefully uninformed about history, theory of government, etc. proud ancaps (which is the loud majority) are dumbasses that swallowed koch propaganda. “I got mine” is the real libertarian credo.
You do not, under any circumstances, “Gotta hand it to the libertarians”
They are morons who want basically all the same things the republican fascists do. They just want it to happen by magic rather than increasing government overreach and oppression.
I went through a few months talking to self-defined libertarians after the modern resurgence who couldn’t explain what the difference between libertarianism and anarchism was once anarchism was sociologically defined for them.
Usually they couldn’t define the difference between libertarianism and the current system they lived inside.
“No, see, instead of having public school, you would just like get together with your neighbors and friends everyone would pay some money to some teacher you all selected and vetted, and then all the kids would go to that guy’s house and learn from them. But like just your community.”
So less efficient public school?
“No, it’s like if instead of firemen, you just got together with your neighbors and you all employed like a few firemen and your group could pay into this fund that-”
Right, less efficient civil service.
“But you could control the group better!”
So like a private club that has to individually manufacturer and manage all of the needs of your neighborhood?
“No, just like a group that contributes money to the services they need. It’s just way better than taxes.”
Except it doesn’t even cover everyone in the neighborhood, so you’re living among half a dozen HOAs on each block that feel no obligation to respect or assist their immediate community.
I like the ones who say that roads should be privatized and if you have potholes, you and the neighbors should get together to pay to get them filled in.
Which, of course, a libertarian neighbor in this ideal world of theirs would refuse to do.
“One of the main culprits of yesterday’s tragedy is the United States, which … embargoed the sale of aircraft and aviation parts to Iran and does not allow the people of Iran to enjoy good aviation facilities,” Zarif said. “These will be recorded in the list of US crimes against the Iranian people.”
Of course lol. I wonder how long it took him to find a way to blame it on the US.
Last time they did that the US installed a brutal dictators. It’s been brutal dictators ever since.
It’s going to stay that way until everyone has a brutal dictator and they all have a big dick measuring contest and then hopefully that’s going to be the end of the two legged apes.
“aboard the Bell helicopter, which Iran purchased in the early 2000s”
If Iran was so concerned about the safety, they could have easily used a Russian helicopter which they could get parts and maintain properly. MI-8 are a dime a dozen.
I propose a law that says any rep introducing or supporting performative, moronic legislation that wastes my tax dollars gets to have their balls kicked off. Who’s with me?
For sure but in this instance the assholes in question are male. In the name of inclusivity, I’m happy to discuss alternatives for women as I’m not sure ovaries can be kicked off.
I disagree. In the long term, IchNichtenLichten’s proposal would save so much time and money - through the mere threat of a ball kicking - that it would fail to meet its own second criteria.
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