I don’t believe that he relinquished his campaign out of utter beneficence. I skimmed the transcript but never managed to find it, does he touch on what in particular compelled him to pass the torch?
It’s hard to believe that he’d just wake up one morning after six months of campaigning and say “yeah, it’s about time I hang up my suit.” Especially with only a few months remaining for Harris to campaign. There had to have been a coming to Jesus moment for the spontaneity of this about face.
I believe my record as president, my leadership in the world, my vision for America’s future all merited a second term, but nothing, nothing can come in the way of saving our democracy, and that includes personal ambition.
He still thinks he’s perfectly capable of being an excellent president. But the voters disagree, and he’s stepping down to give us the best chance of stopping Trump.
I’m sure you don’t like his answer, but that’s his answer.
Yeah, he won’t openly say how his entire inner circle kept yelling at him “FOR FUCKS SAKE JOE STEP DOWN WE’RE FUCKING LOSING THIS!” before the election.
Disapproval is very different from potential voters wanting someone else (a specific other candidate, not a generic candidate). He thought he could convince voters that he was still the best option.
He realized he was wrong. Maybe if State of the Union Biden showed up to the debate things would be different. But we’ll never know.
The story behind it is that he was finally shown how terrible his numbers really were in swing states. Apparently, they looked very bad and were trending even further down.
The story also goes that the reality of the situation had largely been hidden from him by his closest confidants up to that point. Add in all the party and public pressure, and it really doesn’t seem too far fetched that he was finally forced to face up to the bleak outlook of his chances going forward.
I don’t know how people don’t get this. It’s utterly transparent, they didn’t make any secret of it. Their megadonors pulled donations, pelosi went and had a secret chat that was probably along the lines of “i have spoken to the oligarchs that fund us, if you insist on running your war chest will be paltry and the rest of the party will suffer in kind. Congressional races, local elections, etc will all be vastly underfunded because you decided to stay in the race. They are holding the bag and they want you out.” and then a few days later he announces he’s out after they coordinate things. Maybe he had a day or two where he had a pipe dream moment thinking he could grassroots fund it like Bernie and someone shot him back down to earth
The specifics of their conversation are secret so that’s conjecture of course but the fact that the dnc’s large donors pulled their donations until he dropped out and that pelosi spoke to him about that fact are not. And then she gets spun as some “boss dealmaker” when really she’s just the mouthpiece of the elite ruling class, sending a message that their money dries up if they don’t get their way. Some deal making that is
Note: I think it’s worth it if it ends up stopping the actual fascists from seizing power.
But I very much expect Biden’s plan to increase taxes on the 1% to be either heavily neutered or quietly scrapped when Harris gets in office. And that sucks.
He didn’t. They are gaslighting you now trying to make it seem like this was the plan all along. People hate Trump and they unite behind that and end up voting blue no matter who. They’ll end up in this mess time and time again though until people make Democrats change else stop voting for them. You don’t help someone addicted to drugs by giving them money everytime they ask.
but not voting or voting red means actively Supporting fascism. on one side you had an old guy who was visibly getting older and on the other side you have a almost comically evil group of persons who want nothing more than to make life more miserable for all people on earth but themselves
So many people here who have spent months bitching about Biden being the candidate can’t take five minutes to enjoy him stepping down from the election.
"Not voting is voting for the other side" is completely ineffectual as a slogan, since the type of person likely to not vote is going to immediately file it away in their brain as the obvious hyperbole-bordering-on-lie it is.
But I'm not miserable about Harris? I just told you that.
Or are you trying to say that making any comments that don't end with a string of 🎉 emojis is off the table for the next 3 to 5 working days ?
I get that maybe you misinterpreted my comment as anti-harris, since I didn't bother to make my specific stance clear and kind of threw it out there, but I've now clarified.
Why are you doubling down now? Just to try and retroactively justify some unnecessary receipt pulling?
You’re not, you’re miserable about something else instead. Specifically, people suggesting that voter apathy helps Trump. Or at least you acted in a pretty miserable way.
Okay so the emoji thing. Not allowed to criticise anything? What a strange and unique lens to view the world through.
"Voter apathy helps Trump" has a lot of baked in context that makes it kind-of-true when "You not voting helps Trump" just objectively isn't.
I must say though, I wasn't miserable when i made that comment, and now that you have received the initial thing you were looking for (or confirmation that you had it all along), I expect to see nothing but positivity from you for the next week.
It’s fun to expect things. And it’s weird to expect someone to be positive about everything when they were just accusing you of only being miserable about the election.
But yes, I am very positive about the election right now.
That was never my opinion. My opinion was that Biden (and a lot of others) believed that, and almost no one ran against him. So if people wanted someone else to run instead of Biden, it was too late. And they didn’t canvass for anyone else anyway, something they got mad about when I asked them who they canvassed for.
But I was wrong about it being too late because I honestly did not think Biden would do this.
How does it not fit that narrative? If everyone canvassed for another candidate, there might have been a legitimate primary challenge. But almost all the people who complained about Biden didn’t do that. So asking who their preferred candidate was and asking them why they didn’t canvass for them seems apt to me.
Ignoring that asking about canvassing isn't all you did, expecting people to canvas to have an opinion on politics is so nonsensical it actually brings us full circle to the deliberately ridiculous original comment I left.
How is expecting people to canvas before having an opinion any better than expecting people to donate? It reeks of elitism.
What? Canvass before having an opinion? It had been three years into Biden’s presidency when the election year started. People didn’t have an opinion of whether or not he should run or who else should be president by then?
You’re right, I don’t expect them to canvass. They clearly are very politically unaware.
From the reporting I’ve read, there have been a lot of meetings between him and leading Democrats urging him to step down; starting with his debate performance and continuing from there.
He’s probably been considering it for a while. However, in his position, as soon as you acknowledge that you are considering withdrawing from the race your campaign is over, so he needed to look committed until he was ready to pull the trigger and drop out.
I mean, he said that he might do it for health reasons and then it was announced a day or two later that he had tested positive for covid again.
It’s probably just a fig leaf for him to bow to pressure from the party without losing too much face, but it’s also possible that he’s honestly realizing that staying in a job that keeps exposing you to covid and any other epi/pandemic that comes along isn’t a good idea at his age…
Per the subreddit drama thread about this a couple of days ago the accuser has publicly recanted the accusation. I feel bad for this lady, she’s getting absolutely shit on by the Internet for something that sounds like it didn’t happen.
Personally, I think he’d become an even worse martyr than he could be as president. If he is murdered then some actually intelligent malicious actors get to use his platform to enact their will, rather than having to work through Trump.
I think ideologically sure, but there isn’t anyone right now with the charisma to get power and attention to coalesce around him so the movement would be deranged to a degree.
But I thought… “America, we deserve better. We deserve so much better,” Scott said, adding, “I know this is going to offend the liberal elites: America is not a racist country.”
His remark was met with applause.
“But if you are looking for racism today, you’d find it in cities run by Democrats. Look on the South Side of Chicago. Poor Black kids, trapped in failing schools. Thousands shot every single year, including one of my former interns, DaQuawn [Bruce], Scott continued. (Bruce was shot by a stray bullet.)*
“But there’s good news,” he added. “It’s conservative values that restores hope.”
The fact they made a black guy say all this was fucking evil. A massive mockery.
Not in Death Valley as far as I’m aware, they do in the local area but not actually in Death Valley itself. I must admit though I’m a bit unclear about how far the really hot bit of Death Valley extends.
Fuck Netanyahu. I hope President Harris leaves him out to dry. Let him figure out how to defend his conservative shithole country from his rightfully furious neighbors.
Are you actually asking this question? Do you really have difficulty figuring out whether or not there are two different stories, or if the person in the story changed genders overnight?
The article (that you didn’t read) references the story about the exonerated woman you are thinking of, so not only is this a remarkably stupid question, but the article you are responding to includes the answer…
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