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breadsmasher , in Donald Trump Does Not Get Post-Shooting Poll Boost
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aww did lil babby need a plaster for his lil oopsie?

ThePantser ,
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I’m surprised it’s not a maga bandaid

kevlar21 ,

Maybe gold or something

kmartburrito ,

Definitely made in China

queermunist ,
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I’m surprised he didn’t show up in a fully body cast to maximize his play for sympathy.

DarkDecay , in More Tech and Venture Capital Execs Are Coming Out as MAGA Believers

Further proof that a brain is unnecessary for the executive level of an organization

isles ,

I’m trying to connect the dots… are you implying that MAGA is harmful to entrenched business interests?

SoleInvictus ,

I think they’re implying that if MAGAts are idiots and execs can be MAGAts, some execs are therefore idiots.

corsicanguppy , in 'Zionist-free zone': Israelis are increasingly unwanted at global tourism sites

was “not able to accept reservations from persons we believe might have ties to the Israeli army,”

Doesn’t Israel have mandatory service of 1-2 years for young adults? This means every citizen has ‘ties’ to their army. I wonder whether the news is avoiding that fact since it changes a few narratives, if so.

Iceblade02 ,

Yes. Pretty much every Israeli citizen will have “ties to the Israeli army”.

IndustryStandard OP ,

It makes things very complicated.

Recently Israel bombed a medic and claimed he was a combatant. They had a picture of someone that looked like the man sitting in a military uniform in 2019. However that person was not an active combatant at all.

Their only intelligence to designate him as Hamas was a deep learning match on the picture and the man’s face.

Assuming it was realy the medic in the picture, If any person that was ever affiliated with Hamas is a valid target the same would count for the IDF.

Meaning all Israeli civilians that ever served in the IDF suddenly count as military targets.

matlag ,

If you do what “they” do as a way to retaliate, are you any different from “them”? We need to be better than that.

awesome_lowlander ,

There’s a difference between bombing somebody and not serving somebody

matlag ,

I’m responding to

Meaning all Israeli civilians that ever served in the IDF suddenly count as military targets.

ytg ,

mandatory service

It’s in the name, what are you going to do?

But generally, people who don’t want to can avoid going to combat roles.

1–2 years

They are increasing it to 3 years for men. Read up on the situation to get a taste of sweet Israeli domestic politics

LostWanderer , in Donald Trump Does Not Get Post-Shooting Poll Boost

I don’t pity fascists; he’s got my full disapproval still, come November it’s Vote Blue time!

gedaliyah , in Inflation is cooling, yet many Americans say they're living paycheck to paycheck
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Isn’t it funny how inflation always effects every price except the price of labor first?

cygnus , in A Victim of Crime and a Threat to Democracy
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Great piece. Too bad so many nowadays seem unable to hold more than one idea at a time in their head.

Crackhappy ,
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But have you seen this rooster that screams “hello!” at dawn every day?

snooggums , in Donald Trump Does Not Get Post-Shooting Poll Boost
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That’s how shitty of a person he is. Every other terrible person got a boost from almost dying.

girlfreddy , in Springfield IL woman who called sheriff's office over possible intruder killed by deputies, attorney says
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“It is extremely hard to imagine how a woman who calls the police out of fear of an intruder ends up shot in the head by police at her own home,”

billiam0202 ,

No, no it’s not. Especially for certain skin tones.

Smokeless7048 ,

Was she black? i assume she was black.

CaptPretentious ,

While not a guarantee, it does increase probability.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Justine_Damond?w…

luciferofastora ,

Looking at the picture of the protesters and her grieving mother, it does seem quite possible.

TheDarksteel94 , in Donald Trump Does Not Get Post-Shooting Poll Boost

Man, I really hope for the US and the rest of the world that most Democrats show up to vote. Otherwise, we know who to blame if Trump wins.

nossaquesapao , in Donald Trump Does Not Get Post-Shooting Poll Boost

If the margin of error is of 2 points, you can’t say that trump is leading, because both are statistically tied. I hate biased journalism.

WorkIsSlow , (edited )

Or he could be leading by 4 points.

Edit: 3 points. I guess I struggle with addition now D:

Tja ,

Akcshually just 3

ReallyActuallyFrankenstein ,

I’d like this to be true, but remember that these national polls are not helpful to predict the electoral college. Unfortunately, Trump comfortably leads in many must-win states for Biden. Polls are usually wrong, but it’s the best information we’ve got.

frezik ,

If you’re leading by 1.5 points with a margin of error of 2 points, then it’s most likely that your lead is real. The range of error is a bell curve. It’s more likely for a well-conducted poll to be off by 0.5 points than 1.5.

zabadoh ,

Because the Republicans have a built-in advantage in the Electoral College, a Democratic presidential candidate has to be several points ahead in a national poll to even think about being level, in terms of electoral votes, which are the only things that really count in a presidential race.

TheDemonBuer , (edited ) in A Victim of Crime and a Threat to Democracy
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…in a polarized environment in which some people are unstable, evil, or for whatever other reason prone to take the law into their own hands…

I insist that violence has no legitimate place in our political system and condemn both this act specifically and any physical attacks on politicians or anyone else for their political expression.

I sincerely hope the system has all of the tools and mechanisms necessary to prevent the rise of fascism in the US, because if it doesn’t, and it turns out that stopping fascism will require stepping outside the bounds of the law, then fascism will rise, as it seems most people are unwilling to break the law to prevent it.

sentientity , in Biden to call for 5% cap on annual rent increases, as he tries to show plans to tame inflation

A sensible, too-little-too-late rule, probably full of carveouts and exceptions, that I nonetheless feel really relieved to see. Delayed and watery regulation is better than none, I suppose.

Crackhappy , in Nancy Pelosi's Portfolio Returned Over 700% In a Decade
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Fuck Pelosi. She’s a piece of shit. Just another symptom of this collapsing empire. FYI I am a democratic socialist.

DaddleDew , (edited ) in Donald Trump Does Not Get Post-Shooting Poll Boost

There are those who see through Trump’s bullshit and those who don’t. And those who see through it won’t have their views changed by this event.

We know how Trump would have reacted if the tables were turned. He wouldn’t have condemned the violence. He would have made evasive and vague statements suggesting that the violence should continue. We know that because he has done it before. Many times. As a matter of fact he did call for political violence against Hillary in 2016 when he suggested that “the second amendment people should do something about it”.

We are not fooled. We might not approve of political violence. But no amount of playing the victim is doing to make us forget that he is still a scumbag. We will vote him out.

oxjox ,
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There are those who see through Trump’s bullshit and those who don’t.

What has baffled me for the past eight years is how many people, since day one, have not observed him for who he really is. I still can not comprehend how he was elected president and is again the nominee for the Republican Party.

He has zero redeeming qualities. By all measures, he has the record of being the worst president in modern times. But most people don’t actually care about legislation or politics or this country - they only care about themselves and the “vibe” they get from someone.

We live in a world where verifiable lies are shaping our reality. The people who claim to be patriots are traitors to the intent of this nation. I just do not understand how the brains of some people veil them from what’s being presented directly in front of them. Moreover, I have no idea how this doesn’t keep getting worse.

retrospectology ,
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He was elected because Democrats thought they could exploit his lack of support to force Clinton on everyone. They were wrong.

Trump’s victory is more about Democratic strategic failure than anything else, they gave him the election.

KoboldCoterie ,
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He has a cult of personality. They (the GOP) don’t seem to like him either based on how many of them denounced him at various points over the past 8 years, but they know he’s their best chance of winning, so they made him the candidate. They don’t care who the candidate is, as long as it’s one of their people.

EldritchFeminity ,

I have a friend who is obsessed with learning about cults, and he recently said that Trump’s speeches sound exactly like Jim Jones.

The way it works is that you say something kinda crazy and lose maybe 10% of your followers. Now you know what you can get away with with the other 90%. Repeat this until you get the 30-50% of people that will eat up anything you say (or won’t leave due to sunk cost fallacy/can’t admit that they were wrong), and you have Trump’s base.

These are people who have either drunk the Flavor-Aid, love him because he says the things they’re afraid to say out loud, or are just too deep now and can’t get out.

Erasmus ,
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We know how Trump would have reacted if the tables were switched. He wouldn’t have condemned the violence.

“People that get shot are losers!”

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foggy ,

It’s this.

Gigasser ,

The polls are also affected by project 2025 news, which can reduce the effectiveness of a post assassination boost.

NotAnotherLemmyUser , in Donald Trump Does Not Get Post-Shooting Poll Boost

As much as I want this to be true (well I’d rather him be losing in all polls), this is disinformation at this moment.

The poll they are referencing is this one: pro.morningconsult.com/…/2024-presidential-electi…(Archive link)

Under “In this tracker”

KEY TAKEAWAYS

Trump maintains lead: Trump continues to lead Biden by 2 percentage points, 44% to 42%, unchanged from the previous week and superior to his standing in the lead-up to the first 2024 presidential debate, when the candidates were tied. The latest data was collected Friday through Sunday, meaning most responses were gathered before Saturday’s assassination attempt on Trump at a campaign rally in Pennsylvania.

Additionally, I don’t see any polls listed out here either that have been able to do a complete poll since the assassination attempt:

www.realclearpolling.com/polls/…/trump-vs-biden

doughless ,

Maybe impartial information more than disinformation. It’s still likely the responses from late Saturday and Sunday would have impacted the percentage by at least 1 or 2 points. The fact it stayed the same hopefully means that at best it simply prevented Biden from taking the lead.

NotAnotherLemmyUser ,

Maybe, but considering this information is highlighted in the poll’s key points (immediately following and under the same point used for the title) doesn’t look good. It means that Newsweek is either doing a poor job at covering this (they didn’t even provide a direct link to the poll), or they are intentionally leaving out key details.

It’s also possible that they are only looking at a subset of the data that only focuses on people that were questioned the day after the event, but without a pro+ subscription I can’t tell if seperating out that group is even possible (if it even lists out which day a person was questioned) and that’s ignoring the impact on the reliability of those numbers given a largely reduced dataset.

Morning Consult Pro+ subscribers are able to access the data sets that power Morning Consult Pro’s reports and analysis

In the end, I’m waiting to see what the polls look like in battleground states to see how this event has really affected the situation.

Socsa ,

Half of the poll period was in the middle of the news cycle. You’d expect to see at least some movement.

TokenBoomer ,

We may never get an accurate poll post-assassination because the RNC quickly followed.

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