That image is not high enough quality to say that.
There is a noticably bloody area in is right upper earlobe that could be a chunk taken out by basically a 5.56 round, but again, its too crappy to be definitive.
Also this twitter poster claiming it is a bb gun is a fucking moron.
BB Guns do not have have an echoing report after the initial shot, as is easily audible from the shots that occur after the audio re equalizes when Trump goes down from the podium.
The audio sounds tinny and poppy because it is equalized for human voice in a large outdoor environment. A BB gun would not be audible whatsoever.
If the shots came from inside the crowd, as it currently seems they did, the rounds would have travelled at an upward angle, and could have nicked or taken out a small chunk of his ear, around where his ear is most bloody.
Trump would have had to be basically looking right at the shooter.
That would make more sense than a downward trajectory from a building or something.
Yep, more and more people on CNN are saying as much.
That would make the elevation difference either flat, or possibly still slightly upward or slightly downward depending on the height of the podium vs surrounding terrain vs height of the apparently single story building the guy was on.
My main point was that a nicking of the top of the ear would be less likely from a more significant downward trajectory, such as the top of a 20 story building or something like that.
That trajectory would be more likely to take more of the ear off, going downward further through the ear from where the bloodiest area can be seen in the images.
Im going by my best guess at a wound size via images, and its currently being reported that the shooter was outside the event perimeter, meaning the shots would have been taken from likely outside the effective range of a pistol, so, while it is still a guess, I am still going with a 5.56 rifle of some kind.
Also, in my experience, common pistol rounds barely make any report as can be heard in the audio in similar conditions (large open area).
The gunshots sound tinny and plinky because the audio was set up for a speech in a loud noisy environment, watch similar audio footage of say a reporter in a warzone and you will find distant rifle rifle sounds similar.
The shooter was only 400ft away… that’s nothing and there are 9mm rifles though I’m not concrete on 9mm, it’s just the report didn’t sound like the lords caliber.
That being said, there is an interview some British journalist did with a man who witnessed the shooter (I saw the clip on Kyle Kulinsky’s youtube, not sure the actual source of the clip), and he described him as climbing up onto a roof with a rifle.
Could it be a 9mm technically im a pistol but i looke like a rifle kind of thing? Sure.
Im sure we will find out within 48 hrs some details about the shooter’s weapon, given that his corpse is already in custody.
But the crazies always cared about trump, they already thought the FBI doc raid was an attack on him. But those coveted low information voters swing voters? Dunno if this sticks. No national event seems to stick for more than a month. Will this drum up more Trump voters? Or will the fear of wagon circling maga voters push more dems to fall in line and show up in Nov? It’s way too far out to tell.
Campaign? Doesn’t really need to even campaign anymore after this. Maybe he will mention it at a state of the confedarcy talk or something. These are such shitty times.
For those thinking this is staged, listen to the audio carefully. You can hear the impact of the bullets landing near the podium before you hear the sound of the bullet being fired. You can hear a distinct click just before each pop; because bullets typically travel faster than sound, this is accurate to what you would actually hear if you were being shot at. This seems like a detail that Trump's team would be too incompetent to have thought to account for.
It wouldn't have to have been too far. Ever been to a baseball game and notice the delay between seeing the swing and hearing the crack of the bat from the stands? If you're seated behind the outfield, there's easily a longer delay in that scenario than what we can hear in the clip.
It sounds like roughly a quarter of a second between the click and the pop, so I imagine the shooter was less than a hundred yards away.
The final shot we hear also sounds like it came from a different gun, and there's no preceding click sound before it. That leads me to believe that shots at Trump were probably from somebody in the crowd, and security or another bystander fired one shot into the shooter. But that's just my hunch right now.
They sound nothing like bullet impacts on anything.
It sounds tinny due to the audio being equalized for a speech in a large open noisy area.
The report that you hear afterward is the echo, the report, of the gunshot, as the sound is in a fairly large open area and it bounces/echoes through the environment.
This confirms that it is real gunshots, not bb guns as some people who have evidently never listened to footage of gunshots are claiming.
You may be right, but that final shot throws me off. It sounds like a different caliber round, and there's no click that comes before it, which makes me think the last shot was fired at the shooter by somebody else, instead of at the podium.
A consensus seems to be emerging that the first few shots were the shooter, and at least some of the volley that followed were from counter snipers or a quick react force of some other technical name.
I have done a lot of this as I have done a good deal of sound design research for mods for various military/realism themed shooter games, and yes that does make me a bit of an odd duck.
However, mixing up certain guns and certain ranges under differing audio conditions is an entirely different ballpark then confusing a firearm with a bb gun.
I didn’t mean to be rude, just fact of the matter, with the post I am responding to.
The bb gun thing is a reference to some other person elsewhere in this thread who cited some rando on twitter thinking it was a bb gun, who I do mean to be rude toward.
If he were genuinely in danger, I wouldn’t expect him to care about anything but himself. He’d do his posturing from inside a safe car or the day after.
I’m going to assume, charitably, that you’re not lost in the conspiracy sauce.
If you’ve seen the way flat earthers argue, you should understand why I’m grilling Soup over this. It’s not helpful, and there’s nothing but fan fiction in their head to even substantiate it.
It would either need Trump to have impeccable timing, despite being barely able to walk down a ramp unassisted, or rely on the shooter being able to just barely clip Trump.
He would have to have impeccable timing still. Lifting his hand just as the gunshots ring out? I doubt Trump has the response time to consciously do that.
The universe might have imploded from the sudden imbalance between mass and un-mass (the opposing axis of the “dark matter” posit). We might count ourselves lucky ¹.
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