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UristMcHolland , in Donald Trump runs for cover as shots fired at Pennsylvania rally

Looks fake

enleeten , in Donald Trump speech shooting: Gunshots heard at president’s rally – latest news

You know it was Rudy

cabron_offsets ,

Couldn’t be, he’s too busy selling handies behind the Wendy’s dumpster.

apfelwoiSchoppen , in Donald Trump speech shooting: Gunshots heard at president’s rally – latest news
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Christ. Now I’m envisioning his future campaign speeches. “They try to shoot me down, I am an immortal.”

snooggums ,
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immoral

Plum ,
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Immortan.

zarkanian ,
@zarkanian@sh.itjust.works avatar

Immotan-gelo.

Imgonnatrythis ,

Campaign? Doesn’t really need to even campaign anymore after this. Maybe he will mention it at a state of the confedarcy talk or something. These are such shitty times.

HappycamperNZ ,

Sweet, shoot again

iquanyin ,

we’ll never hear the end of it.

UltraGiGaGigantic ,

We will hear it for another 10 years when he finally has his hamburger heart attack.

Substance_P , in Donald Trump speech shooting: Gunshots heard at president’s rally – latest news

Take it like Teddy you wimp.

Chozo , in Gunshots reportedly fired at Donald Trump rally - as former president rushed off stage

For those thinking this is staged, listen to the audio carefully. You can hear the impact of the bullets landing near the podium before you hear the sound of the bullet being fired. You can hear a distinct click just before each pop; because bullets typically travel faster than sound, this is accurate to what you would actually hear if you were being shot at. This seems like a detail that Trump's team would be too incompetent to have thought to account for.

meco03211 ,

But to be distinguished from the shot itself, it would have to be a fair distance away.

Chozo ,

It wouldn't have to have been too far. Ever been to a baseball game and notice the delay between seeing the swing and hearing the crack of the bat from the stands? If you're seated behind the outfield, there's easily a longer delay in that scenario than what we can hear in the clip.

It sounds like roughly a quarter of a second between the click and the pop, so I imagine the shooter was less than a hundred yards away.

The final shot we hear also sounds like it came from a different gun, and there's no preceding click sound before it. That leads me to believe that shots at Trump were probably from somebody in the crowd, and security or another bystander fired one shot into the shooter. But that's just my hunch right now.

sp3tr4l ,

You are not hearing the impact of the bullets.

The ‘click’ you are hearing are the gunshots.

They sound nothing like bullet impacts on anything.

It sounds tinny due to the audio being equalized for a speech in a large open noisy area.

The report that you hear afterward is the echo, the report, of the gunshot, as the sound is in a fairly large open area and it bounces/echoes through the environment.

This confirms that it is real gunshots, not bb guns as some people who have evidently never listened to footage of gunshots are claiming.

Chozo ,

You may be right, but that final shot throws me off. It sounds like a different caliber round, and there's no click that comes before it, which makes me think the last shot was fired at the shooter by somebody else, instead of at the podium.

sp3tr4l ,

A consensus seems to be emerging that the first few shots were the shooter, and at least some of the volley that followed were from counter snipers or a quick react force of some other technical name.

So, basically, you are probably correct.

dudinax ,

That would explain why they let him stand up.

Corkyskog ,

To be fair… how many people listen to footage of gunshots? I have only heard them fake in a movie or in real life from my memory.

sp3tr4l ,

I have done a lot of this as I have done a good deal of sound design research for mods for various military/realism themed shooter games, and yes that does make me a bit of an odd duck.

However, mixing up certain guns and certain ranges under differing audio conditions is an entirely different ballpark then confusing a firearm with a bb gun.

I didn’t mean to be rude, just fact of the matter, with the post I am responding to.

The bb gun thing is a reference to some other person elsewhere in this thread who cited some rando on twitter thinking it was a bb gun, who I do mean to be rude toward.

Soup ,

Yet his secret service allowed him to get right up and pose for a photo op without securing the area first.

It’s almost as if they knew there was no threat ahead of time.

petrol_sniff_king ,

Are you suggesting that if the bullet was real, Trump wouldn’t pose for the cameras?

You know, to reassure his base that he is a very big, very strong man, the only thing they like him for?

qarbone ,

If he were genuinely in danger, I wouldn’t expect him to care about anything but himself. He’d do his posturing from inside a safe car or the day after.

petrol_sniff_king ,

You could expect that, yeah.

…okay, and?

qarbone ,

No, nothing further. I guessed from your comment we were just throwing random țheories at the wall.

petrol_sniff_king ,

I’m going to assume, charitably, that you’re not lost in the conspiracy sauce.

If you’ve seen the way flat earthers argue, you should understand why I’m grilling Soup over this. It’s not helpful, and there’s nothing but fan fiction in their head to even substantiate it.

rambling_lunatic OP , in Trump ‘Fine’ After Being Shot at Pennsylvania Campaign Rally

They missed the head

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  • PugJesus ,

    It would either need Trump to have impeccable timing, despite being barely able to walk down a ramp unassisted, or rely on the shooter being able to just barely clip Trump.

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  • PugJesus ,

    He would have to have impeccable timing still. Lifting his hand just as the gunshots ring out? I doubt Trump has the response time to consciously do that.

    Today ,

    Some reports say he was hit by glass from the teleprompter.

    AmbiguousProps ,

    This doesn’t look like him acting to me, I doubt the old man would be able to pull it off.

    www.c-span.org/video/?c5123735/shots-fired-trump-…

    Also, there’s two confirmed dead so far:

    Butler County District attorney told the Associated Press (AP) that a shooter was dead and that a rally attendee had also been killed.

    morphballganon ,

    Thank you for answering; I hadn’t seen the confirmation yet.

    Nougat ,

    Just because the head is filled with beans doesn't mean it's not a real head.

    ccunning ,

    Ears are part of heads…

    Gradually_Adjusting ,
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    Oh, barely. An ear is basically a pull tab for the human face. One good yank’ll do.

    FlyingSquid ,
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    Would it have made a difference if they didn’t?

    Nothing inside anyway.

    solidgrue ,
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    The universe might have imploded from the sudden imbalance between mass and un-mass (the opposing axis of the “dark matter” posit). We might count ourselves lucky ¹.


    1. For values of lucky exceeding 10^-20
    FlyingSquid ,
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    Or would that have been the lucky outcome after what might happen with a sympathy vote?

    solidgrue ,
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    I don’t think the episode changed either of our votes, do you?

    FlyingSquid ,
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    Ours? No. But I’ve never voted for a Republican in my life.

    PoopDelivery , in Donald Trump speech shooting: Gunshots heard at president’s rally – latest news

    My gut tells me this is staged, but either way I’m scared as fuck that this is going to give him more power and make violence against others even worse.

    pivot_root ,

    From the article:

    Trump stood up and held his fist in the air with what appeared to be blood dripping down his face.

    Several secret service agents surrounded him as he put his hand up and appeared to shout “fight” to his supporters who began cheering.

    Undoubtedly, this will incite his violent insurrectionist fan base into a repeat of Jan 6.

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  • bdonvr , in Gunshots reportedly fired at Donald Trump rally - as former president rushed off stage

    Just reported 2 bystanders dead, shooter dead.

    DarkCloud , in Gunshots reportedly fired at Donald Trump rally - as former president rushed off stage

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  • Riccosuave ,
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    It took Trump’s chance of victory from 90% to 100%

    arefx ,

    I’m voting Biden ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ

    zarkanian ,
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    Thanks for saving us. You will be remembered in the history books.

    pslightlypsycho47 , in Richard Simmons Dead at 76

    I’d recommend the Missing Richard Simmons podcast. It’s a miniseries that discusses his legacy and influence. It’s well worth the listen.

    AFKBRBChocolate , in Donald Trump runs for cover as shots fired at Pennsylvania rally

    I viscerally hate the guy, but:

    • Murder is just wrong, and political violence isn’t better when liberals do it than conservatives
    • We don’t need him to become a martyr
    • If he’s dead, we’ll never get a court ruling on his crimes
    zero_spelled_with_an_ecks ,

    Never? You wouldn’t take a shot at Hitler? I mean, Hitler did.

    morphballganon ,

    political violence isn’t better when liberals do it than conservatives

    Who pulls the trigger doesn’t matter. What matters is what the target plans to do if they survive.

    ValorieAF ,

    The shooter was a registered Republican

    AFKBRBChocolate ,

    Yeah, but also some reports that he donated to a liberal organization.

    ValorieAF ,

    Yeah… Pretty weird.

    ILikeBoobies , in Gunshots reportedly fired at Donald Trump rally - as former president rushed off stage

    Wonder if others will follow suit

    PugJesus , in Trump ‘Fine’ After Being Shot at Pennsylvania Campaign Rally

    Damn.

    blackn1ght , in Gunshots reportedly fired at Donald Trump rally - as former president rushed off stage

    Oh no that’s awful! Is the bullet ok?

    CaptainKickass , in Trump ‘Fine’ After Being Shot at Pennsylvania Campaign Rally

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  • AFKBRBChocolate ,

    That’s not the way

    wetnoodle ,
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    A guillotine would be more fitting but it’s the thought that counts 💜

    morphballganon ,

    Well, the other way hasn’t been working, has it?

    AFKBRBChocolate ,

    You’d feel the same way if it was your preferred candidate?

    It’s not the way.

    morphballganon ,

    My prefered candidate isn’t a fascist.

    Find a way that works to eliminate fascism, then we’ll talk. Until then, stop enabling them.

    AFKBRBChocolate ,

    Wait, are you saying I’m enabling fascism by not advocating political assassination?

    morphballganon ,

    Advocating and disparaging are not the only two options.

    AFKBRBChocolate ,

    Uh, okay, are you saying I’m supporting fascism because I’m disparaging political assassination?

    morphballganon ,

    I said enabling, not supporting. They are not the same.

    snooggums ,
    @snooggums@midwest.social avatar

    Advocating against assassination of an open fascist?

    Yes, you are enabling fascism.

    grue ,

    Fascists work to undermine the social contracts of tolerance and nonviolence and are therefore not protected by them.

    tiefling ,

    Ask WW2 vets about how they treated white supremacist fascists. We’ve softened on them as a society.

    grue , (edited )

    Seems like this is the kind of lesson that needs to be re-learned every few generations, and the last time was a few generations ago.

    catloaf ,

    You mean aside from the WWII vets that were white supremacists?

    npr.org/…/black-army-soldiers-england-wwii-battle

    snooggums ,
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    Republicans have stacked the courts and SCOTUS recently ruled that presidents can freely commit whatever atrocities they want in office.

    Since that ruling Trump is organizing a plan for retaliation similar to all of the worst authoritarian regimes.

    This way is fine.

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